i have a question here,,,knw first tat i'm not anti proton,,i don't do butt dyno,ketuk2 for reliability or hoping sports performance on these cars.Priority of making car should always be like this as customer:safety(active<=passive))>reliability>efficiency>usability(market targeted)>performance...With that said,in my opinion neither perodua or proton have been producing really bad but good cars for the money n improved a lot(in detail,yes),,,i don't just do some barbarian styled evaluation.

However,this proton preve seems to be overrated to me.Considering it's price,performance,safety.It is EXCELLENT(having everythin under 1 package is engineers challange).
Well,crash test seems to be good.Engine is good.But there goes a story about engine efficiency.Many sites including proton Official site claims preve passes Euro Emission "5",WTF THIS IS TOTally unbelievab;e.Seriously i can't trust this men.
Here's like ,,"why' :honda vs preve.,,,think carefully pls>>lol,,pls
1.car weighs 1300kg.(heavy)..made with help of some guy from bmw(refer wiki+car curves,it do smell like bmw.    ,,then            honda city 2014 about 1050kg.

Both have cvt.
Both have good cayalytic converter.(assume honda's better because they tweak their own while proton use something on par with some good aftermarket stuff)
Both have cam profile(definitely vtec have better history n is on GM's top list,,it is a knwn winner).
Engine itself for sure honda made it better(not supporting this pricy rich kids car,,but Honda is GOOD,,engine,efficiecy,chassis,,they would have some fancy stuffs like..mmm..let say better aluminium application on engines(for weight saving)
Campro is dohc + honda is sohc(won't matter coz test of mpg is usually under 90kph,,,sohc still holds good power band)

The result on paper,,,f***  this:official 1 claims  around(non-cfe) 6.2l/100km other sites 7-8l/km

well,for honda(i believe they r not influenced by their government to tokok tambah in order to make it a globall car instead being monitor strictly(not that strict,i knw,cars nw day have some quality issues)--but it's official and any other result claims -5.7l/100km(lighter body of honda/preve is heavy,that's fine but it's 1.5l engine pack more power n torque).
Thus if  u understand how engines combustion efficiency effect Euro emission rating/How much green gas produced...less fuel per 100/km mean=better rating.(other factors like performance of catalytic converter are usually negligible n in this case is safe to be said equal)
How the hell does honda,which have better mpg does only have Euro emission of 2 while preve is '5"(more is better).Even ford's highly "fuel economy-focused" ford fiesta,some of them are only euro 3 n 4.But this not-so-fancy(it is good but...) engine +heavy body),achieves 5 n they even claim they have prepare it for future (it looks like edge of it in terms of mpg)

PLs forgive for long post n forgive me if i'm being rude,,,but that's normal, ,Pls read carefully,,n explain to me because reading statitics alone,nothing
No war pls,,. i would not like some replies from peeps who replies without them knw wat they r talking about,shouting,cursing,the statistic guy(robots),n pretty much,,pls,,stay away.

Other than that,the car sound perfect to me   

Not sure if the SA just get the newer ANCAP batch, add skirting, change rim and seat.

If one goes to CoSE to enquire to purchase Preve LE, Proton will say there's no more. Go to outside SA, somehow there always is some.

i have a question here,,,knw first tat i'm not anti proton,,i don't do butt dyno,ketuk2 for reliability or hoping sports performance on these cars.Priority of making car should always be like this as customer:safety(active<=passive))>reliability>efficiency>usability(market targeted)>performance...With that said,in my opinion neither perodua or proton have been producing really bad but good cars for the money n improved a lot(in detail,yes),,,i don't just do some barbarian styled evaluation.

However,this proton preve seems to be overrated to me.Considering it's price,performance,safety.It is EXCELLENT(having everythin under 1 package is engineers challange).
Well,crash test seems to be good.Engine is good.But there goes a story about engine efficiency.Many sites including proton Official site claims preve passes Euro Emission "5",WTF THIS IS TOTally unbelievab;e.Seriously i can't trust this men.
Here's like ,,"why' :honda vs preve.,,,think carefully pls>>lol,,pls
1.car weighs 1300kg.(heavy)..made with help of some guy from bmw(refer wiki+car curves,it do smell like bmw.    ,,then            honda city 2014 about 1050kg.

Both have cvt.
Both have good cayalytic converter.(assume honda's better because they tweak their own while proton use something on par with some good aftermarket stuff)
Both have cam profile(definitely vtec have better history n is on GM's top list,,it is a knwn winner).
Engine itself for sure honda made it better(not supporting this pricy rich kids car,,but Honda is GOOD,,engine,efficiecy,chassis,,they would have some fancy stuffs like..mmm..let say better aluminium application on engines(for weight saving)
Campro is dohc + honda is sohc(won't matter coz test of mpg is usually under 90kph,,,sohc still holds good power band)

The result on paper,,,f***  this:official 1 claims  around(non-cfe) 6.2l/100km other sites 7-8l/km

well,for honda(i believe they r not influenced by their government to tokok tambah in order to make it a globall car instead being monitor strictly(not that strict,i knw,cars nw day have some quality issues)--but it's official and any other result claims -5.7l/100km(lighter body of honda/preve is heavy,that's fine but it's 1.5l engine pack more power n torque).
Thus if  u understand how engines combustion efficiency effect Euro emission rating/How much green gas produced...less fuel per 100/km mean=better rating.(other factors like performance of catalytic converter are usually negligible n in this case is safe to be said equal)
How the hell does honda,which have better mpg does only have Euro emission of 2 while preve is '5"(more is better).Even ford's highly "fuel economy-focused" ford fiesta,some of them are only euro 3 n 4.But this not-so-fancy(it is good but...) engine +heavy body),achieves 5 n they even claim they have prepare it for future (it looks like edge of it in terms of mpg)

PLs forgive for long post n forgive me if i'm being rude,,,but that's normal, ,Pls read carefully,,n explain to me because reading statitics alone,nothing
No war pls,,. i would not like some replies from peeps who replies without them knw wat they r talking about,shouting,cursing,the statistic guy(robots),n pretty much,,pls,,stay away.

Other than that,the car sound perfect to me   

awww.. u scared me with this one... hmmm.... i think they keep the car in their hand first.. when someone wanna buy then they said got stock... if its like u said. i think there will be diffences cause LE handling from lotus... and premium is proton handling if im not mistaken :|

Anyway, did you see how fuel efficient is Preve on straight highway? If the test cycle is mainly on cruising, I'm not surprised that the CFE gets

I have got 7L/100km (SID) base on 100% cruising at highway 110km/h today. 80% on auto cruise...

Never get to hit a Petrol Kiosk right after highway to really test the real FC....

Which service centre has Synthium 5000?

There's at least two in Selayang

So far

i have a question here,,,knw first tat i'm not anti proton,,i don't do butt dyno,ketuk2 for reliability or hoping sports performance on these cars.Priority of making car should always be like this as customer:safety(active<=passive))>reliability>efficiency>usability(market targeted)>performance...With that said,in my opinion neither perodua or proton have been producing really bad but good cars for the money n improved a lot(in detail,yes),,,i don't just do some barbarian styled evaluation.

However,this proton preve seems to be overrated to me.Considering it's price,performance,safety.It is EXCELLENT(having everythin under 1 package is engineers challange).
Well,crash test seems to be good.Engine is good.But there goes a story about engine efficiency.Many sites including proton Official site claims preve passes Euro Emission "5",WTF THIS IS TOTally unbelievab;e.Seriously i can't trust this men.
Here's like ,,"why' :honda vs preve.,,,think carefully pls>>lol,,pls
1.car weighs 1300kg.(heavy)..made with help of some guy from bmw(refer wiki+car curves,it do smell like bmw.    ,,then            honda city 2014 about 1050kg.

Both have cvt.
Both have good cayalytic converter.(assume honda's better because they tweak their own while proton use something on par with some good aftermarket stuff)
Both have cam profile(definitely vtec have better history n is on GM's top list,,it is a knwn winner).
Engine itself for sure honda made it better(not supporting this pricy rich kids car,,but Honda is GOOD,,engine,efficiecy,chassis,,they would have some fancy stuffs like..mmm..let say better aluminium application on engines(for weight saving)
Campro is dohc + honda is sohc(won't matter coz test of mpg is usually under 90kph,,,sohc still holds good power band)

The result on paper,,,f***  this:official 1 claims  around(non-cfe) 6.2l/100km other sites 7-8l/km

well,for honda(i believe they r not influenced by their government to tokok tambah in order to make it a globall car instead being monitor strictly(not that strict,i knw,cars nw day have some quality issues)--but it's official and any other result claims -5.7l/100km(lighter body of honda/preve is heavy,that's fine but it's 1.5l engine pack more power n torque).
Thus if  u understand how engines combustion efficiency effect Euro emission rating/How much green gas produced...less fuel per 100/km mean=better rating.(other factors like performance of catalytic converter are usually negligible n in this case is safe to be said equal)
How the hell does honda,which have better mpg does only have Euro emission of 2 while preve is '5"(more is better).Even ford's highly "fuel economy-focused" ford fiesta,some of them are only euro 3 n 4.But this not-so-fancy(it is good but...) engine +heavy body),achieves 5 n they even claim they have prepare it for future (it looks like edge of it in terms of mpg)

PLs forgive for long post n forgive me if i'm being rude,,,but that's normal, ,Pls read carefully,,n explain to me because reading statitics alone,nothing
No war pls,,. i would not like some replies from peeps who replies without them knw wat they r talking about,shouting,cursing,the statistic guy(robots),n pretty much,,pls,,stay away.

Other than that,the car sound perfect to me   

I guess you can check Proton's website to get the list of SC, and call the ones near your area and ask them if they carry Syn 5000

With regards to hdbjhn2, your comment looks like I am reading a programming language
Syn 5000 is RM250 a bottle...plus that with labor, draing plug, gasket etc...
[WTA] one bottle 4L is enough for the engine or we need 5L?

Why your fuelly 10.1L/KM?

With regards to hdbjhn2, your comment looks like I am reading a programming language
Syn 5000 is RM250 a bottle...plus that with labor, draing plug, gasket etc...
[WTA] one bottle 4L is enough for the engine or we need 5L?

i always ask for the remaining engine oil. never know when u gonna use it...hehehhe...

mate,
honda civic 1.8 ivtec EU5
ford fiesta 1.0 ecoboost eu5
Gen 2 1597cc eu4
please check which honda and ford your looking.. maybe its old model..

i have a question here,,,knw first tat i'm not anti proton,,i don't do butt dyno,ketuk2 for reliability or hoping sports performance on these cars.Priority of making car should always be like this as customer:safety(active<=passive))>reliability>efficiency>usability(market targeted)>performance...With that said,in my opinion neither perodua or proton have been producing really bad but good cars for the money n improved a lot(in detail,yes),,,i don't just do some barbarian styled evaluation.

However,this proton preve seems to be overrated to me.Considering it's price,performance,safety.It is EXCELLENT(having everythin under 1 package is engineers challange).
Well,crash test seems to be good.Engine is good.But there goes a story about engine efficiency.Many sites including proton Official site claims preve passes Euro Emission "5",WTF THIS IS TOTally unbelievab;e.Seriously i can't trust this men.
Here's like ,,"why' :honda vs preve.,,,think carefully pls>>lol,,pls
1.car weighs 1300kg.(heavy)..made with help of some guy from bmw(refer wiki+car curves,it do smell like bmw.    ,,then            honda city 2014 about 1050kg.

Both have cvt.
Both have good cayalytic converter.(assume honda's better because they tweak their own while proton use something on par with some good aftermarket stuff)
Both have cam profile(definitely vtec have better history n is on GM's top list,,it is a knwn winner).
Engine itself for sure honda made it better(not supporting this pricy rich kids car,,but Honda is GOOD,,engine,efficiecy,chassis,,they would have some fancy stuffs like..mmm..let say better aluminium application on engines(for weight saving)
Campro is dohc + honda is sohc(won't matter coz test of mpg is usually under 90kph,,,sohc still holds good power band)

The result on paper,,,f***  this:official 1 claims  around(non-cfe) 6.2l/100km other sites 7-8l/km

well,for honda(i believe they r not influenced by their government to tokok tambah in order to make it a globall car instead being monitor strictly(not that strict,i knw,cars nw day have some quality issues)--but it's official and any other result claims -5.7l/100km(lighter body of honda/preve is heavy,that's fine but it's 1.5l engine pack more power n torque).
Thus if  u understand how engines combustion efficiency effect Euro emission rating/How much green gas produced...less fuel per 100/km mean=better rating.(other factors like performance of catalytic converter are usually negligible n in this case is safe to be said equal)
How the hell does honda,which have better mpg does only have Euro emission of 2 while preve is '5"(more is better).Even ford's highly "fuel economy-focused" ford fiesta,some of them are only euro 3 n 4.But this not-so-fancy(it is good but...) engine +heavy body),achieves 5 n they even claim they have prepare it for future (it looks like edge of it in terms of mpg)

PLs forgive for long post n forgive me if i'm being rude,,,but that's normal, ,Pls read carefully,,n explain to me because reading statitics alone,nothing
No war pls,,. i would not like some replies from peeps who replies without them knw wat they r talking about,shouting,cursing,the statistic guy(robots),n pretty much,,pls,,stay away.

Other than that,the car sound perfect to me   

I guess you can check Proton's website to get the list of SC, and call the ones near your area and ask them if they carry Syn 5000

Always give new cars the best they can get. Treating my CFE with Syn5000 until major service

Question is which one is better for CFE? me noob about this...
Cose said syntium 3000 is not suitable for CFE...
she said too thin and may effect the turbo engine