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hyperyouth_firepower
post Oct 7 2015, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Oct 7 2015, 04:54 PM)
What error did you get before shutting down?

As for the USB connection issue, can you send your laptop back for us to test with other external hdd? We prefer to test the whole set with your original OS so we can know whether it's OS, firmware, device or hardware issue.
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It'll be months before I can send it back, but I'll try. Most likely during November or December.

I will try to format (there are some things as well), but right now i'm worried because for no reason the SSD is running at 72c-89c all the time.



As for errors, none. It just shuts down by itself just like that.

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post Oct 7 2015, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 7 2015, 04:03 PM)
It'll be months before I can send it back, but I'll try. Most likely during November or December.

I will try to format (there are some things as well), but right now i'm worried because for no reason the SSD is running at 72c-89c all the time.
As for errors, none. It just shuts down by itself just like that.
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You can try on different OS for e.g. Windows 7 Professional SP1, and update your firmware on the external HDD.
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post Oct 8 2015, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Oct 7 2015, 10:10 PM)
You can try on different OS for e.g. Windows 7 Professional SP1, and update your firmware on the external HDD.
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the heat would probably be from SSD itself, i don't think changing OS would help much

i did suffered BSOD once in a blue moon, recent one being yesterday. from what i observed the heat usually felt on touch pad area where it was usually cool all the time (mSATA slot 2, where i placed my 'extra attachment' there). it BSOD then shutdown automatically, then i had to wait for my mSATA to cool off else i would not have any OS to boot with

as stated, BSOD happened 'once in a blue moon', probably due to my exploit over it's capability to run multiple virtual machines and assign each of them with heavy jobs.

as of yesterday's scenario, i got multiple youtube on my main windows, virtual box machine 1 running dev + 2 SQL servers processing and virtual box machine 2 doing all the heavy-duty por- i mean... 'documentaries' downloads (plz dun tell me boss about me exploit... sweat.gif )

perhaps hyper-dude can temper OS property to ensure SSD is a 'boot only'/ 'application only' area? relocating folders (downloads, documents, pictures) to normal HDD would offset and mitigate much of I/O off SSD, therefore reduce heat generated

hope it helps
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post Oct 8 2015, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 8 2015, 11:44 AM)
the heat would probably be from SSD itself, i don't think changing OS would help much

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I was referring to the USB connection issue smile.gif
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post Oct 8 2015, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Oct 8 2015, 12:00 PM)
I was referring to the USB connection issue smile.gif
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owh, i see shocking.gif

must had mixed both of his issues up sweat.gif
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post Oct 8 2015, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 8 2015, 12:44 PM)
the heat would probably be from SSD itself, i don't think changing OS would help much

i did suffered BSOD once in a blue moon, recent one being yesterday. from what i observed the heat usually felt on touch pad area where it was usually cool all the time (mSATA slot 2, where i placed my 'extra attachment' there). it BSOD then shutdown automatically, then i had to wait for my mSATA to cool off else i would not have any OS to boot with

as stated, BSOD happened 'once in a blue moon', probably due to my exploit over it's capability to run multiple virtual machines and assign each of them with heavy jobs.

as of yesterday's scenario, i got multiple youtube on my main windows, virtual box machine 1 running dev + 2 SQL servers processing and virtual box machine 2 doing all the heavy-duty por- i mean... 'documentaries' downloads (plz dun tell me boss about me exploit...  sweat.gif )

perhaps hyper-dude can temper OS property to ensure SSD is a 'boot only'/ 'application only' area? relocating folders (downloads, documents, pictures) to normal HDD would offset and mitigate much of I/O off SSD, therefore reduce heat generated

hope it helps
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Actually for my SSD its only for OS, except for GTA 5 and WoW which is in the same C (SSD). No issues despite heavy gaming (and lengthy gaming sessions too).


So I've formatted the SSD, clean install. I'll try to install drivers (but I've no idea where to look for it), and I'm not willing to use windows 10 unless the drivers are there from Clevo (if any exists).
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 8 2015, 01:46 PM)
Actually for my SSD its only for OS, except for GTA 5 and WoW which is in the same C (SSD). No issues despite heavy gaming (and lengthy gaming sessions too).
So I've formatted the SSD, clean install. I'll try to install drivers (but I've no idea where to look for it), and I'm not willing to use windows 10 unless the drivers are there from Clevo (if any exists).
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Please use the drivers came with the DVD. Clevo didn't release windows 10 drivers for RS-15.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 8 2015, 01:46 PM)
Actually for my SSD its only for OS, except for GTA 5 and WoW which is in the same C (SSD). No issues despite heavy gaming (and lengthy gaming sessions too).
So I've formatted the SSD, clean install. I'll try to install drivers (but I've no idea where to look for it), and I'm not willing to use windows 10 unless the drivers are there from Clevo (if any exists).
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Wow, you really formated you SSD? This might kill it prematurely.
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post Oct 8 2015, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Oct 8 2015, 03:12 PM)
Wow, you really formated you SSD? This might kill it prematurely.
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By using Windows 8.1's "refresh feature".
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post Oct 8 2015, 04:16 PM

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post Oct 8 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Oct 8 2015, 02:12 PM)
Wow, you really formated you SSD? This might kill it prematurely.
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it depends on formatting method la boss... if it's a quick format then should be ok since OS nowadays are really sophisticated compared to old times

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yo hyper,

that would means your SSD would probably be 128GB (or higher), seeing that WoW is roughly 26GB and GTA V is about 65GB, counting in OS would consume roughly 30GB

as for optimization, do consider SSD I/O usage as a primary concern.

when i claimed about how i had my SSD heated up is not without evidence: my main cache ('Temp'/ 'Tmp' folders) is still in C:\, and virtual machines were actively accessing the cache due to my laziness to keep the settings for '%USERPROFILE%' variable (accessible via registry editor) as shown below... hence the BSOD followed by a shutdown after i had managed to drive my mSATA to werk like a slave...

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you might consider lower the usage by relocating few storage-based folders in the profile (My Music, Downloads, My picture) to HHD, as those would clunk up storage space.

SSD should not heat up so easily, as long as the usage is kept in manageable

drivers concern, it's better to use the provided installers to ensure compatibility; it's like the files that would run on Windows NT would probably have issues in windows 2000, or drivers that is compatible for windows 2000 would cause issues in XP, albeit mentioned OS are NT based.

in b4 'OMG CHING CHONG CHING CHONG!!! U MADE THE 1337 MACHINE INTO CINAPEK CLUNK OF METAL!!!'

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post Oct 8 2015, 05:04 PM

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That is why I move all the temporary files and pagefile to RAMDrive. This will reduce the SSD wear and tear almost to non.
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post Oct 8 2015, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Oct 8 2015, 04:16 PM)
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ILLEGEAR‬ now features Intel 6th Generation Processors! Keep your laptop cool and extend the battery life with ‪Intel‬ ‪Skylake‬!
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Wow S5 with skylake and GSYNC so damn sexy.... drool.gif drool.gif
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post Oct 8 2015, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Oct 8 2015, 04:16 PM)
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By the way, Prince J, do you have RX-17EVO user manual in pdf format? Paper manual is hard to carry around for reading.
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post Oct 8 2015, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Oct 8 2015, 05:44 PM)
By the way, Prince J, do you have RX-17EVO user manual in pdf format? Paper manual is hard to carry around for reading.
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Yes we do. You want the one with disassembly guide?
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post Oct 8 2015, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Oct 8 2015, 05:33 PM)
it depends on formatting method la boss... if it's a quick format then should be ok since OS nowadays are really sophisticated compared to old times

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yo hyper,

that would means your SSD would probably be 128GB (or higher), seeing that WoW is roughly 26GB and GTA V is about 65GB, counting in OS would consume roughly 30GB

as for optimization, do consider SSD I/O usage as a primary concern.

when i claimed about how i had my SSD heated up is not without evidence: my main cache ('Temp'/ 'Tmp' folders) is still in C:\, and virtual machines were actively accessing the cache due to my laziness to keep the settings for '%USERPROFILE%' variable (accessible via registry editor) as shown below... hence the BSOD followed by a shutdown after i had managed to drive my mSATA to werk like a slave...

Attached Image

you might consider lower the usage by relocating few storage-based folders in the profile (My Music, Downloads, My picture) to HHD, as those would clunk up storage space.

SSD should not heat up so easily, as long as the usage is kept in manageable

drivers concern, it's better to use the provided installers to ensure compatibility; it's like the files that would run on  Windows NT would probably have issues in windows 2000, or drivers that is compatible for windows 2000 would cause issues in XP, albeit mentioned OS are NT based.

in b4 'OMG CHING CHONG CHING CHONG!!! U MADE THE 1337 MACHINE INTO CINAPEK CLUNK OF METAL!!!'
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When I "refreshed" my Windows, it seems that certain settings were kept, such as my documents, etc, all on D instead of my C.

For some reason some programs just refuse to install into other drives claiming must C only (like Intel stuffs)


QUOTE(chtan @ Oct 8 2015, 06:04 PM)
That is why I move all the temporary files and pagefile to RAMDrive. This will reduce the SSD wear and tear almost to non.
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Is there a proper guide to this? I have 32GB of RAM, so i would definitely love this. I have an inkling of an idea what you're saying, because i've tried some guides on "lessening" read write stuffs on the SSD, but I'm just buzzed out why the temperature is so damn high.
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post Oct 8 2015, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 8 2015, 07:05 PM)
When I "refreshed" my Windows, it seems that certain settings were kept, such as my documents, etc, all on D instead of my C.

For some reason some programs just refuse to install into other drives claiming must C only (like Intel stuffs)
Is there a proper guide to this? I have 32GB of RAM, so i would definitely love this. I have an inkling of an idea what you're saying, because i've tried some guides on "lessening" read write stuffs on the SSD, but I'm just buzzed out why the temperature is so damn high.
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if you install your windows in C:\ then your base directory (or root directory) is C:\. drivers and certain components are required to be at root directory in order to function correctly.

a quick hack to go about testing windows environment variable without visiting registry editor (plus all those security warnings and prompts while reaching there)

start menu -> key in "cmd" at the search bar -> key into the command prompt "echo _____" (fill in the blanks, without the double quotes)

it will write the correspondence file path out

some windows environment variables can be referred in link below
http://libertyboy.free.fr/computing/reference/envariables/

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right click 'my computer' and select property -> select 'Advance property' (on the left) -> 'advance' tab -> 'environment variables' button

take note that not all are covered in the list and, while changing some of the variables *may* offload work on C:\ (such as moving 'temp' folder to HDD), some are not recommended to change as it would screw up your OS

before doing any drastic changes, do spend some time to read and understand the consequences for each adjustments u made to offload SSD I/O
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 8 2015, 07:05 PM)
When I "refreshed" my Windows, it seems that certain settings were kept, such as my documents, etc, all on D instead of my C.

For some reason some programs just refuse to install into other drives claiming must C only (like Intel stuffs)
Is there a proper guide to this? I have 32GB of RAM, so i would definitely love this. I have an inkling of an idea what you're saying, because i've tried some guides on "lessening" read write stuffs on the SSD, but I'm just buzzed out why the temperature is so damn high.
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Dude ramdrive is silly. Cause if its a repeat job its just gonna always image back from ure ssd. So whats the point.

Just disable pagefile, prefetch, superfetch etc.
Although some games/program requires it. Hibernation requires pagefile. The amount is reflected based on ure ram state.
Dont worry about nand write wears. I have pushed ssds to their nand limits. Formating ssds once in a blue moon is fine as well. Just make sure defrag is not enabled.

As for temps.. This is the side cost for cheaper ssds with smaller nand fabrication..

My old x25m in my destop were 20s. Now corsair neutron gtx, xt, crucial mx100, mx200 all sit at 30s .Mind you this is on a tj11 in a room that has 24/7 ac at ambient temp 19.2c.

Use them. Chuck them. Paid rm900 for 80gb few years back. Now can get 512gb. Last year thats the cost for 256gb. So dont worry about it.

Newer ssds allow sleep on raid example mx200. Use them.

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Oct 8 2015, 06:13 PM)
Yes we do. You want the one with disassembly guide?
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Yes and also the user guide. Cause always hit the touch pad accidentally. Would like to disable the pad.


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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 8 2015, 07:05 PM)
When I "refreshed" my Windows, it seems that certain settings were kept, such as my documents, etc, all on D instead of my C.

For some reason some programs just refuse to install into other drives claiming must C only (like Intel stuffs)
Is there a proper guide to this? I have 32GB of RAM, so i would definitely love this. I have an inkling of an idea what you're saying, because i've tried some guides on "lessening" read write stuffs on the SSD, but I'm just buzzed out why the temperature is so damn high.
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I use Dataram Ramdrive to create the Ramdrive(http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk)
It is actually a very simple process just key in how much RAM you want to allocate to the drive and you are good to go. The good part for Dataram solution is it can even create an image for the ramdrive you used before shutting down windows. I don't need that feature so I disable it instead.
Last time, the free edition used to be able to support up to 4GB. Now they reduce it to only 1GB. But hey, it is very cheap so i bought the license which enable me to create up to 32GB Ramdrive.
After installing and starting the Ramdrive, go to windows advanced setting and set the page file to it. You can watch your system fly then.

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