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post Sep 30 2015, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(katavatar @ Sep 30 2015, 10:09 AM)
It's not rumored lol.

It's a full desktop 980 that can be mounted into a laptop. They are calling it a GeForce GTX 980 with no M. smile.gif

Clevo models with Skylake + the new 980 will be coming out in November afaik. Will be nice to see when Illegear can start offering them.
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I have compared the benchmark with GTX970M SLI vs GTX980, the result is just a few frame difference between this 2 setup, so I just went ahead and get the GTX970M SLI instead of waiting for GTX980 refresh. No worth the waiting.

Beside, i can just upgrade my to GTX980M SLI in future. This beat the GTX980 anytime.
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post Sep 30 2015, 10:37 AM

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I have compared the benchmark with GTX970M SLI vs GTX980, the result is just a few frame difference between this 2 setup, so I just went ahead and get the GTX970M SLI instead of waiting for GTX980 refresh. No worth the waiting.

Beside, i can just upgrade my to GTX980M SLI in future. This beat the GTX980 anytime.
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The 980 is nice because currently the skylake desktop CPU models are all single GPU. That being said, the 980M in sli still beats a single GTX 980 in both performance and cost.

They are probably going to offer the GTX 980 in sli form at some stage though, but the price is going to be pretty crazy.

Personally I'm aiming for a single GPU desktop CPU laptop as my next big buy. The lack of sli support for some of the games I've been playing has been annoying me.

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post Sep 30 2015, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(katavatar @ Sep 30 2015, 10:37 AM)
The 980 is nice because currently the skylake desktop CPU models are all single GPU. That being said, the 980M in sli still beats a single GTX 980 in both performance and cost.

They are probably going to offer the GTX 980 in sli form at some stage though, but the price is going to be pretty crazy.
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Agreed, but the heat will shorten the life span of other component tremendously.
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post Sep 30 2015, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Sep 30 2015, 10:40 AM)
Agreed, but the heat will shorten the life span of other component tremendously.
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According to people like Prema and the other people who have been testing the new GTX 980 Clevo models, the cooling system for the new models is 2-3 times more effective than the current generations cooling.

Should be interesting to see how it goes when they are released. One of the selling points of the 980 is it's ability to OC well, so I don't think Clevo would release any flagship models that couldn't take the heat. smile.gif

If the cooling system allows it, one day I hope to see an AMD Fury nano in a laptop. Maybe next year. laugh.gif

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post Sep 30 2015, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(katavatar @ Sep 30 2015, 11:09 AM)
It's not rumored lol.

It's a full desktop 980 that can be mounted into a laptop. They are calling it a GeForce GTX 980 with no M. smile.gif

Clevo models with Skylake + the new 980 will be coming out in November afaik. Will be nice to see when Illegear can start offering them.
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the one you're talking about is different, I think.

Initially the reports that came out, a single 990M > 980M on SLI, and even comparable to Titan X.


980 desktop vs 980M is around 30%, in a sense that 980M = 970 desktop with BIGGER memory (if you're looking at the 8GB cards lah)


the desktop 980 to 980 mobile conversion is newer than the 990M leaked announcement.
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post Oct 1 2015, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Sep 30 2015, 09:39 PM)
the one you're talking about is different, I think.

Initially the reports that came out, a single 990M > 980M on SLI, and even comparable to Titan X.
980 desktop vs 980M is around 30%, in a sense that 980M = 970 desktop with BIGGER memory (if you're looking at the 8GB cards lah)
the desktop 980 to 980 mobile conversion is newer than the 990M leaked announcement.
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At this point I'm very doubtful about the 990M's existence. The old rumors are more likely to be referring to the current laptop 980 release.

I'm not ruling out one last mobile flagship GPU before pascal, it just seems unlikely.

A laptop 980 TI would be pretty cool though. ohmy.gif

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post Oct 1 2015, 02:37 PM

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post Oct 1 2015, 09:07 PM

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Still waiting for the p650re and p650rg to be posted...

Wonder what will the price points be....
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post Oct 1 2015, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Sep 30 2015, 11:28 AM)
I have compared the benchmark with GTX970M SLI vs GTX980, the result is just a few frame difference between this 2 setup, so I just went ahead and get the GTX970M SLI instead of waiting for GTX980 refresh. No worth the waiting.

Beside, i can just upgrade my to GTX980M SLI in future. This beat the GTX980 anytime.
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True, with the 970M SLI, which later upgradeable to 980M / 980 SLI, its still far better than a single 980, and scaling on the Clevo laptops (at least the M gpus) have been stellar compared to desktop gpu SLI.
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post Oct 5 2015, 11:47 AM

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Just received my RX-17 EVO@GTX970M SLI with 32GB RAM in a nicely packed package. Will post out my impression later. Overall, the machine look solid and nice.
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post Oct 6 2015, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Oct 5 2015, 12:47 PM)
Just received my RX-17 EVO@GTX970M SLI with 32GB RAM in a nicely packed package. Will post out my impression later. Overall, the machine look solid and nice.
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Welcome to the club! You won't be disappointed!



BTW,

Prince_J, can I ask for assistance? None of my USB3.0 and E-SATA ports have enough 'power' to run a HDD. For some odd reason, My RS-15's USB port cannot generate enough power it seems. Can I ask for assistance?

As I recall the RS-15 has 1 powered USB 3.0 port, but it doesn't seem to be enough to power up a portable HDD for some reason.


Any ideas that I can do? (Without sending it back of course LOL)

(I've tried plugging it individually to all ports, it doesn't work). Plugging to another laptop (non Illegear) works for some odd reason.


*edit: after some googling I'm very afraid if my laptops' USB power control circuit has fried. RIght now on another laptop I can power a USB external HDD and access contents with only 1 USB port, but on the RS-15 even using two, it disconnects and reconnects at random.

*add on 2:
tried another HDD. No dice. Power at max settings. Now i'm wondering what's going on.

*add 3: i use full power (battery options) while plugged in. No changes. Even charging a handphone on the "powered" usb is taking very long (i'm testing this since noon)

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post Oct 6 2015, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 6 2015, 12:14 PM)
Welcome to the club! You won't be disappointed!
BTW,

Prince_J, can I ask for assistance? None of my USB3.0 and E-SATA ports have enough 'power' to run a HDD. For some odd reason, My RS-15's USB port cannot generate enough power it seems. Can I ask for assistance?

As I recall the RS-15 has 1 powered USB 3.0 port, but it doesn't seem to be enough to power up a portable HDD for some reason.
Any ideas that I can do? (Without sending it back of course LOL)

(I've tried plugging it individually to all ports, it doesn't work). Plugging to another laptop (non Illegear) works for some odd reason.
*edit: after some googling I'm very afraid if my laptops' USB power control circuit has fried. RIght now on another laptop I can power a USB external HDD and access contents with only 1 USB port, but on the RS-15 even using two, it disconnects and reconnects at random.

*add on 2:
tried another HDD. No dice. Power at max settings. Now i'm wondering what's going on.

*add 3: i use full power (battery options) while plugged in. No changes. Even charging a handphone on the "powered" usb is taking very long (i'm testing this since noon)
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My RX-17 have no this issue as all my hdd can be recognize instantly without any problem once plugged in. However,
I do have this issue with my 4yrs+Alienware M17xR4. One of my old 1T hdd sometime cannot be recognize and have to try a few times than only it can be read normally. The other new 1T and 2T hdd perform normally though, however i use the new cable supply by the new hdd.
So, I guess it could be multiple factor lead to this problem.
Old usb cable + USB port wear and tear due to prolong usage can lead to hdd hard to recognize issue.
If you happens to find out the root course, do share with me.

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post Oct 6 2015, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(chtan @ Oct 6 2015, 06:49 PM)
My RX-17 have no this issue as all my hdd can be recognize instantly without any problem once plugged in. However,
I do have this issue with my 4yrs+Alienware M17xR4. One of my old 1T hdd sometime cannot be recognize and have to try a few times than only it can be read normally. The other new 1T and 2T hdd perform normally though, however i use the new cable supply by the new hdd.
So, I guess it could be multiple factor lead to this problem.
Old usb cable + USB port wear and tear due to prolong usage can lead to hdd hard to recognize issue.
If you happens to find out the root course, do share with me.
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I will.

I plugged in a LiteON external DVD player (bought from Illegear), no problem.

But when I plug in the USB HDD, again the same problem. However, I noticed that the USB HDD will power up during boot (and because of that the laptop will refuse to boot because its searching for something to boot via USB, I think)

But when I boot up the pc and plug in the USB HDD, no light. Funny. I plug the same USB HDD in another laptop, works just fine.

Weird.
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post Oct 6 2015, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 6 2015, 06:45 PM)
I will.

I plugged in a LiteON external DVD player (bought from Illegear), no problem.

But when I plug in the USB HDD, again the same problem. However, I noticed that the USB HDD will power up during boot (and because of that the laptop will refuse to boot because its searching for something to boot via USB, I think)

But when I boot up the pc and plug in the USB HDD, no light. Funny. I plug the same USB HDD in another laptop, works just fine.

Weird.
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how about plug in external hdd before power up, then select your boot drive in bios settings, so that your pc can boot to os. hmm.gif
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post Oct 6 2015, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Azusa_San @ Oct 6 2015, 07:50 PM)
how about plug in external hdd before power up, then select your boot drive in bios settings, so that your pc can boot to os. hmm.gif
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I'm not advanced to that level LOL.

I mean I can plug in external HDD, but i've never seen a "press xxyz to enter bios". All I see is just Illegear logo and then win8.1 hahaha.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 6 2015, 12:14 PM)
Welcome to the club! You won't be disappointed!
BTW,

Prince_J, can I ask for assistance? None of my USB3.0 and E-SATA ports have enough 'power' to run a HDD. For some odd reason, My RS-15's USB port cannot generate enough power it seems. Can I ask for assistance?

As I recall the RS-15 has 1 powered USB 3.0 port, but it doesn't seem to be enough to power up a portable HDD for some reason.
Any ideas that I can do? (Without sending it back of course LOL)

(I've tried plugging it individually to all ports, it doesn't work). Plugging to another laptop (non Illegear) works for some odd reason.
*edit: after some googling I'm very afraid if my laptops' USB power control circuit has fried. RIght now on another laptop I can power a USB external HDD and access contents with only 1 USB port, but on the RS-15 even using two, it disconnects and reconnects at random.

*add on 2:
tried another HDD. No dice. Power at max settings. Now i'm wondering what's going on.

*add 3: i use full power (battery options) while plugged in. No changes. Even charging a handphone on the "powered" usb is taking very long (i'm testing this since noon)
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What external HDD are you using? Did it disconnect or never connected at all?
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post Oct 6 2015, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Oct 6 2015, 09:25 PM)
What external HDD are you using? Did it disconnect or never connected at all?
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The USB-HDD i'm using is Lenovo 300s. It never connected to the RS-15. But on other laptops it worked fine.


I was thinking of "refreshing" the windows 8, but during transferring from C:/ (SSD) to E:/ (normal HDD) the laptop shut down. I repeated the same thing and it shut down again.


Now i'm panicking.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 6 2015, 09:40 PM)
The USB-HDD i'm using is Lenovo 300s. It never connected to the RS-15. But on other laptops it worked fine.
I was thinking of "refreshing" the windows 8, but during transferring from C:/ (SSD) to E:/ (normal HDD) the laptop shut down. I repeated the same thing and it shut down again.
Now i'm panicking.
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Hi,

Do you mean your laptop shutdown during transfer from internal ssd to internal hdd or external hdd?
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post Oct 7 2015, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Oct 7 2015, 12:13 PM)
Hi,

Do you mean your laptop shutdown during transfer from internal ssd to internal hdd or external hdd?
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Laptop shutdown during transfer from c: (ssd/internal) to e: (normal hdd/internal)

Internal to internal

Shutdown. Tried again and noe shut down.

Will reformat pc.

Temperature for SSD fluctuate round 72c to 89c. Dunno why so high.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Oct 7 2015, 12:16 PM)
Laptop shutdown during transfer from c: (ssd/internal)  to e: (normal hdd/internal)

Internal to internal

Shutdown.  Tried again and noe shut down.

Will reformat pc.

Temperature for SSD fluctuate round 72c to 89c. Dunno why so high.
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What error did you get before shutting down?

As for the USB connection issue, can you send your laptop back for us to test with other external hdd? We prefer to test the whole set with your original OS so we can know whether it's OS, firmware, device or hardware issue.

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