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post Jul 14 2006, 11:47 PM, updated 18y ago

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Why Choose A Bird?
--> Birds are cheerful pets and can be kept in small flats and in units where dogs and cats are not allowed. Besides, they do not cost much to feed. Some birds can be teach to talk while others have a beautiful voice. Birds do not take up a lot of space, just a big cage is enough. Below are some popular species that are often keep as pets.

Budgerigar

Budgerigar are also known as budgie. They are a type of parakeet and is an ideal pet for beginners. Budgies are often chosen for their pretty colours, easy to take care and yes, they can be trained to talk! A male bird makes the bes talker and should be kept alone if you want it to talk besides forming a good relationship with you. That is because two birds will chatter to each other and show less interest in copying the human voice. Anyway, if you don't have enough time or you just want to keep them for fun, then it is better to have two or more.

Advantages:
1. Cheap
2. Easy to care for
3. Their main diet is just seeds. But you gotto feed them fruits and veggies so that they can have a balanced diet.


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Haha, all tis pics taken from web. So dun be surprise if u saw similar picss..
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Hahah... I thought yours... I used to have budgies... but now I more into Cockatiels... colour not s vibrant but personality is better heheheh...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 15 2006, 12:01 AM)
Hahah... I thought yours... I used to have budgies... but now I more into Cockatiels... colour not s vibrant but personality is better heheheh...
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yeah... & i'm getting eggs? or babies?
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my budgies either died or flew away sad.gif tht was dunno how many years ago, gonna try again next year.
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QUOTE(TAGreptiles @ Jul 15 2006, 01:49 AM)
yeah... & i'm getting eggs? or babies?
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Hahaha.... should be babies lah.... I let them hatch the eggs for you then you jaga the babies hehehe.... well, can't promise anything, see they wanna mate or not first eheheh...
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go put some nice music... coconut trees.... "passion" fruit.... satin bedding... heart shaped toys... brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 15 2006, 12:01 AM)
Hahah... I thought yours... I used to have budgies... but now I more into Cockatiels... colour not s vibrant but personality is better heheheh...
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Haha. Actually budgie's personality is also quite good wat.
Juz tat I have 3 now. And they are bond to each other rather than me. cry.gif
All of them are males. lol.
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So cute wo.... but those at pet shops not friendly to ppl ler...
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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Jul 15 2006, 06:53 PM)
So cute wo.... but those at pet shops not friendly to ppl ler...
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actually I felt this kind of birds are very difficult to raise one ... probably it's just me. my POV is ... birds should belong to the sky, not cage.
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 15 2006, 06:32 PM)
Haha. Actually budgie's personality is also quite good wat.
Juz tat I have 3 now. And they are bond to each other rather than me.  cry.gif
All of them are males. lol.
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budgies cute lah. Aiyoh, you get 3 of course can't bond with you lah. To successfully train and bond parrots of any size, you have to start keeping it singly. Clip the wing feathers and slowly train it to accept your hand and fingers. Last time my budgies all can sit on shoulder and climb up and down our bodies hehehe...

Cockatiel better at singing. Also they have extremely funny personalities and actions. Friendly and easily tamed and trained when kept singly. Now I got a bonded pair that can breed.
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erm , can anyone giv me a guide or a web on how to keep a budgie ?

hav some interest and maybe will start..

izit possible to keep it in my room? and how much it cost for one ?
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QUOTE(mudz @ Jul 15 2006, 11:43 PM)
erm , can anyone giv me a guide or a web on how to keep a budgie ?

hav some interest and maybe will start..

izit possible to keep it in my room? and how much it cost for one ?
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A budgie is about RM18 to Rm25... Well, last time I bought Rm18 lah and recently saw RM25.

Just google for Budgerigar Caresheets. I don't read online coz I have magazines and books that has caresheets and guides.

Keep in your room? Budgies are a bit noisy, all parrots are lah. Keeping in your room is not healthy since the bird poo can contain mold and fungus when dried. Also when it is molting season, your room may be full of down feathers on the floor.

All birds need sunlight once a while. Parrots can also be messy eaters and scatter seeds and fruit pulp on the floor.
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very cute... love to have it...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 15 2006, 11:43 PM)
budgies cute lah. Aiyoh, you get 3 of course can't bond with you lah. To successfully train and bond parrots of any size, you have to start keeping it singly. Clip the wing feathers and slowly train it to accept your hand and fingers. Last time my budgies all can  sit on shoulder and climb up and down our bodies hehehe...

Cockatiel better at singing. Also they have extremely funny personalities and actions. Friendly and easily tamed and trained when kept singly. Now I got a bonded pair that can breed.
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Haha. Ya loh. Got to seperate them. But now too late liao lor. Once got one out and play, then the other two chirp and chirp so loudly. Anyway, I did clipped all their wings for safety. U never noe wat might happen...
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 16 2006, 04:26 PM)
Haha. Ya loh. Got to seperate them. But now too late liao lor. Once got one out and play, then the other two chirp and chirp so loudly. Anyway, I did clipped all their wings for safety. U never noe wat might happen...
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Hahah... true true, must clip the wings... you clip how many feathers? I clip the inner feathers and leave the outer ones so look natural.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 16 2006, 08:12 PM)
Hahah... true true, must clip the wings... you clip how many feathers? I clip the inner feathers and leave the outer ones so look natural.
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I usually clip the primary feathers. Around 5-6 feathers. Can't clip too much. If not they cannot land properly.
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hmmm...hun...i found someone to help me with the bird...u know the gennie that works in the vet clinnic....she said can help me raise wor...lol...
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QUOTE(TAGreptiles @ Jul 17 2006, 02:18 PM)
hmmm...hun...i found someone to help me with the bird...u know the gennie that works in the vet clinnic....she said can help me raise wor...lol...
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Ohhh... good good... then I can start breeding lah hahahah....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 17 2006, 04:53 PM)
Ohhh... good good... then I can start breeding lah hahahah....
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yaya...go put the box now...go go i cant wait...yay....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 15 2006, 11:43 PM)
budgies cute lah. Aiyoh, you get 3 of course can't bond with you lah. To successfully train and bond parrots of any size, you have to start keeping it singly. Clip the wing feathers and slowly train it to accept your hand and fingers. Last time my budgies all can  sit on shoulder and climb up and down our bodies hehehe...

Cockatiel better at singing. Also they have extremely funny personalities and actions. Friendly and easily tamed and trained when kept singly. Now I got a bonded pair that can breed.
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The petshop next to my office have a pair of cockatiel. Everytime I see them, its like they come to me and try to talk to me. And then they start singing. Really poison me. The pet stores want RM250 for the pair. Better than Toby's asking RM350 for one.
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QUOTE(bjkhan @ Jul 17 2006, 06:36 PM)
The petshop next to my office have a pair of cockatiel. Everytime I see them, its like they come to me and try to talk to me. And then they start singing. Really poison me. The pet stores want RM250 for the pair. Better than Toby's asking RM350 for one.
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If you buy a pair... will regret.... coz I regreted buying a pair... not tame at all and even with training, they will never bond with humans.
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If wan breed, then buy one pair . If u want companionship and friendship rather than juz pet, then u must onli buy one.
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Anyone here got porblems with scaley face mite. Haiz, think one of my budgie got them. Now treating with dettol...lol
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You put your budgies outdoors? I see birds get sick or get mites quite often when outdoors.... all my parrots live indoors hahaha... so I rarely get problems.
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ya lor. i put them outdoors. Cant put them indoors. my mum scold lar. Those feathers and crop shells. Haiz....
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 20 2006, 02:55 PM)
ya lor. i put them outdoors. Cant put them indoors. my mum scold lar. Those feathers and crop shells. Haiz....
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can try wrap the bottom of the cage with plastic? hmm.. just an idea i had..
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haha. good idea. but then the budgies will make sure the crop shells are on the floor (i put the cage on a table).
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Hahah.... everyday we sweep and clean.... well, so far everything ok for us.
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actually at first I buy a pair one, then thought one male one female. can breed ma. Then found out that both are male...lol. Then decided to buy another female. But the stupid shop owner say the one I choose is female, but after another few weeks, it turned out to be a male too. So, I have three male budgies..lol
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 21 2006, 01:51 PM)
actually at first I buy a pair one, then thought one male one female. can breed ma. Then found out that both are male...lol. Then decided to buy another female. But the stupid shop owner say the one I choose is female,  but after another few weeks, it turned out to be a male too. So, I have three male budgies..lol
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how to know it is a male/female?
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 21 2006, 01:51 PM)
actually at first I buy a pair one, then thought one male one female. can breed ma. Then found out that both are male...lol. Then decided to buy another female. But the stupid shop owner say the one I choose is female,  but after another few weeks, it turned out to be a male too. So, I have three male budgies..lol
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Har? Budgies very easy to see male or female mah..... in the end how you know it is a male? HEheheh.....
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haha. the budgie is below six months and the cere is pink that time. So kinda hard to see if it is male or female. So after a few weeks, the cere begin to turn blue, then it must be a male.


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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 21 2006, 07:36 PM)
haha. the budgie is below six months and the cere is pink that time. So kinda hard to see if it is male or female. So after a few weeks, the cere begin to turn blue, then it must be a male.
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Ahhh... so you bought young birds.... if it is a dark purplish pink should be male loh when young.... well, it has been a long time since I go and see budgies heheeh....

Blue for male, brown for female.... last time I had 4... 2 males and 2 females but I put outside... 2 fell sick and died, 1 got attacked by cat and another flew away.... lol.... so that is why now I never keep parrots or birds outside... so scary last time.
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Jul 21 2006, 06:38 PM)
how to know it is a male/female?
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To sex the budgie, look at the cere (the soft thing on top on the budgie's beak).
For male, it is pink at young age and blue when adult. Some mutations such as pieds, lutinos, and albinos will maintain the pink cere when adult.
For female, it is kind of white with some tint of blue when young and adult. However, it will turned crusty and brown when in breeding condition.

All these are only 80% true based on its appearance. To make sure the sex, you can go to veterinarian to have a blood test (blood draw from the toe of budgie). However, normally, this is not required. The blood test is only for bigger birds such as macaws, cockatoos and others.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 21 2006, 07:40 PM)
Ahhh... so you bought young birds.... if it is a dark purplish pink should be male loh when young.... well, it has been a long time since I go and see budgies heheeh....

Blue for male, brown for female.... last time I had 4... 2 males and 2 females but I put outside... 2 fell sick and died, 1 got attacked by cat and another flew away.... lol.... so that is why now I never keep parrots or birds outside... so scary last time.
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haha. i din noe tat time.lol. Wow, you rili had a bad experience. shocking.gif Anyway, I lock all the cage doors so that the cat cant open the cage. haha. There are also many cats around my area leh. Last time, one sat on top on my cage and rest there. sweat.gif then the others juz jump up and down the cage.
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 21 2006, 07:43 PM)
To sex the budgie, look at the cere (the soft thing on top on the budgie's beak).
For male, it is pink at young age and blue when adult. Some mutations such as pieds, lutinos, and albinos will maintain the pink cere when adult.
For female, it is kind of white with some tint of blue when young and adult. However, it will turned crusty and brown when in breeding condition.

All these are only 80% true based on its appearance. To make sure the sex, you can go to veterinarian to have a blood test (blood draw from the toe of budgie). However, normally, this is not required. The blood test is only for bigger birds such as macaws, cockatoos and others.
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Blood test can? I got many parrots unsex hahah... coz last time vet told me need to do surgery to see got ovaries or not.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 21 2006, 07:46 PM)
Blood test can? I got many parrots unsex hahah... coz last time vet told me need to do surgery to see got ovaries or not.... sweat.gif
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Aiyo, need surgery ar? very dangerous for birdz lar. now many overseas companies got the DNA blood test. But dunno M'sia got or not. sweat.gif

Anyway, the blood test required a special card u purchase from a particular company. Then after the blood test, u need to send the form back to the company and they will mail back to u. Ask ur vet, mayb he/she got some knowledge on them. But it seems that the test is a bit expensive.haha


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Wah, I think expensive... maybe I just agak agak their sex better lol...
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ya lor. Anyway, what birds do u have?
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got 2 cockatiels.... 1 hill mynah, 1 african grey, 7 fischer lovebirds
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 16 2006, 11:39 PM)
I usually clip the primary feathers. Around 5-6 feathers. Can't clip too much. If not they cannot land properly.
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How to clip the feathers? Cut it?After clip cant fly already?

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 21 2006, 11:11 PM)
got 2 cockatiels.... 1 hill mynah, 1 african grey, 7 fischer lovebirds
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Wah, so good. got many birds. Afican grey very cute lar. Can mimic people's talking. HOw many words can ur bird learn? And the lovebird also very colourful. U got breed them ?
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Jul 22 2006, 10:08 AM)
How to clip the feathers? Cut it?After clip cant fly already?
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Usually juz use a scissors can clip the feathers liao. Clip 5-6 feathers is enough. Then make sure both side also even, if not the bird can glide properly to land. But then, make sure u din cut the blood feather. u can spot the blood feather easily. Usually bigger than others and hard to cut. If you cut these, blood will flow non-stop, but I think apply some flour can do the stopping. I m not sure about these, ask others for opinion.hehe

After ur bird molt, then u need to cut again. Remember, this is not cruel, the feathers will grow back, juz like ur nails. If ur bird flies away, then it is m0re cruel lor.

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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 22 2006, 11:59 AM)
Wah, so good. got many birds. Afican grey very cute lar. Can mimic people's talking. HOw many words can ur bird learn? And the lovebird also very colourful. U got breed them ?
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My hill mynah talks more words than the African grey. The AG belongs to my brother, can talk about 5 to 6 words and he loves to mimic sounds and whistles... I think the AG is not very talkative loh... even we got as baby and trained it to talk, it would only want to pick up a few words...

We used to breed the fischer lovebirds... but then our breeding pair died of old age... so now left the kids so we don't breed anymore heheeh.... we actually bought a pair and they gave us 9 chicks but 2 died last year from bacteria infection...
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 23 2006, 12:15 PM)
My hill mynah talks more words than the African grey. The AG belongs to my brother, can talk about 5 to 6 words and he loves to mimic sounds and whistles... I think the AG is not very talkative loh... even we got as baby and trained it to talk, it would only want to pick up a few words...

We used to breed the fischer lovebirds... but then our breeding pair died of old age... so now left the kids so we don't breed anymore heheeh.... we actually bought a pair and they gave us 9 chicks but 2 died last year from bacteria infection...
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wah, nine chicks ar!! So good! How much do you buy for a pair? Post some pics ma.
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Jul 23 2006, 01:29 AM)
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To train a bird, first u must make it tame. I expect u onli buy one bird. If more than one bird, then the birds will bond to each other rather than to u. then u can start crying liao. cry.gif It is very important to gain the bird's trust, which can be achieved by talking to the bird in soft voice (ok, it is not stupid), then when change the food and water, move ur hand slowly or whistle to the bird. After some time, it will get used to u. Then, hold millet on ur hand and offer to it. First, it will go away, but again, after some time, it will come to ur hand and eat it. A budgie cant resist a millet. After that, it will think ur hand is harmless and can play with. Then make the budgie stand on ur finger INSIDE the cage. U wont know what happen when u take it outside. Put ur finger on the abdomen and push gently. He may or may not step on ur next finger, juz keep trying. After that, u can take it out the cage and play with him. REMEMBER to clip the birds feather. IT IS A MUST if u wan to tame a bird, but u can also train an unclipped bird, juz a bit difficult gua.

This process takes time and patience, so dun sell the bird if he still cannot step on ur finger. This process will take 2-3 months, so even longer, depends on the bird and OWNER.

Besides, there is one training method called clicker training. It is a very good way to train a budgie, but i tink quite difficult. It is like when u click ur clicker one time, it know it is food time (depends on how u train the bird) Most people use tis method on dog but birds also can.

*P.S: the cage is the bird's safe home, so dun grab a bird in its cage.

OK, tis is quite long, but hopefully it is useful. wink.gif
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i brought 2 bird on 2 day ago. today one of it die. the other one suddenly became tame. In the morning it was scare of me but in the afternoon it was tame.What happen? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Jul 24 2006, 09:05 PM)
i brought 2 bird on 2 day ago. today one of it die. the other one suddenly became tame. In the morning it was scare of me but in the afternoon it was tame.What happen? rclxub.gif
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What bird was it? Budgie? Die so fast? Hmmm....
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What bird was it? Budgie? Die so fast? Hmmm....
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Yeah it is budgie...i think it was sick since @ the pet shop?It was unactive all the time.
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Jul 24 2006, 09:19 PM)
Yeah it is budgie...i think it was sick since @ the pet shop?It was unactive all the time.
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The feathers were not smooth rite? Normally a sick bird will not have smooth feathers, will tend to sleep more and be inactive.

Well, now you have one, it would want your attention. This is good coz easier for you to tame.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 24 2006, 09:40 PM)
The feathers were not smooth rite? Normally a sick bird will not have smooth feathers, will tend to sleep more and be inactive.

Well, now you have one, it would want your attention. This is good coz easier for you to tame.
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yeah the feather was not smooth. how to cure a sick bird? can put it under sun?it seem to b more actve after sun shine.
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Jul 24 2006, 09:54 PM)
yeah the feather was not smooth. how to cure a sick bird? can put it under sun?it seem to b more actve after sun shine.
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Curing a sick bird, you would need to giv a vitamin boost from supplements. Then you need to isolate the bird in a quiet place with a heat lamp. It also helps when you cover the cage a bit with a cloth. A few vets can give antibiotics but curing a sick bird is a bit hard. You can get medicine from some petshops but I only know Pudu has this.
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pudu which shop?the 1 selling fish near the market?what the name of medicine ?how much?
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Jul 24 2006, 10:15 PM)
pudu which shop?the 1 selling fish near the market?what the name of medicine ?how much?
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Long time I didn't go buy. Pudu has a petshop there. Just ask for medicine for sick bird... they sell in pill form... but I dunno what kind of medicine it is lah, I used for my chickens and some birds last time.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jul 24 2006, 10:14 PM)
Curing a sick bird, you would need to giv a vitamin boost from supplements. Then you need to isolate the bird in a quiet place with a heat lamp. It also helps when you cover the cage a bit with a cloth. A few vets can give antibiotics but curing a sick bird is a bit hard. You can get medicine from some petshops but I only know Pudu has this.
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Ya lor. curing sick birds quite hard, especially small little birds like budgie. The pet shops dont care one, sick or not sick, juz sell. janji got money can liao. So if see these sick birds, do not buy because u think can save the bird. It will onli make the shop keeper think:"wah, sick birds also got people buy ar!" and this practice will go on and on.

Anyway, I hope this site will help : http://www.budgies.org/info/health/sick.html

Regarding the bird u now have, u can start training it. Remember to buy spray millet for ur budgie. What is the gender? A he or she?
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 25 2006, 03:32 PM)
Ya lor. curing sick birds quite hard, especially small little birds like budgie.  The pet shops dont care one, sick or not sick, juz sell. janji got money can liao. So if see these sick birds, do not buy because u think can save the bird. It will onli make the shop keeper think:"wah, sick birds also got people buy ar!" and this practice will go on and on.

Anyway, I hope this site will help : http://www.budgies.org/info/health/sick.html

Regarding the bird u now have, u can start training it. Remember to buy spray millet for ur budgie. What is the gender? A he or she?
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is a male. wat is a spray millet. What to train it?come when call?haha icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Jul 26 2006, 02:31 PM)
is a male. wat is a spray millet. What to train it?come when call?haha icon_rolleyes.gif
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u can find that millet in most pet shop. Err, I also dun noe what to train a budgie.lol. The most common one is to step up on ur finger. If u are good at training, then u can teach the bird to make some kind of sound like kissing sound. Some even can mimic the telephone ringing tone and can say some words. But mostly depends on the bird loh. If the bird IQ low, then canot learn too much. lol


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anyone had budgie that can talk?
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wat the different between english budgie and normal ones?
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THe small ones are Australian wild budgies.

The big headed and large body ones are English. Normally English are for shows and it is very hard to breed big and large english budgies. The price is about RM120 above.
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The English budgies are usually show birds. As beginner, it is of course better to take the normal ones. Besides, i personally think that the small ones are cuter than English. lol. ONce again, this is juz my opinion.


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hey guys, y nobody interested in budgies......... cry.gif
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I think it would be better to have an all bird thread since there are very few bird keepers here.
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how come no much bird keeper here?how much to feed a budgie?

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Aiyo, din see tis question...soli soli blush.gif
Anyway, I juz pour seeds into the feeding dish then let them eat. After 2-3 days, I will refill it again. Be careful that although the cup may seen full, but it might be only husk and ur birdie may starve to death. Good luck in ur bird keeping. biggrin.gif

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LOVE BIRDS

Lovebirds are pint-sized bundles of joy. They have the full personality of parrots while being easy to house because of their size. Lovebirds are little clowns, playing for hours at a time. They love to hang from toys, spin them around, and dance on your shoulder. Watch out for your buttons! They love to pull them off your shirts! They love to snuggle and preen. Many people believe lovebirds must be kept in pairs. This is simply not true. A single lovebird makes a better pet because it bonds to you rather than to another lovebird. While it is easy to keep a pair of lovebirds tame, if you plan on spending lots of time with your bird you can keep it alone. However, if you work long hours and don't think you'll have a lot of time for your love bird, we recommend you get him a companion. This will keep your lovebirds happy and prevent boredom.

It is important to realize that while lovebirds are a small parrot, they have the intelligence and abilities of some of the largest parrots. They can amaze you with their ability to escape their own cages (I have to put clips on the cage doors to keep them in, and sometimes they figure out how to open those!), they will sometimes try to become the little bosses of the household (hence, the same type of gentle dominance training used for larger parrots should be used with lovebirds), and they can learn to mimic sounds and speech on occasion (N.B. We don't recommend you buy any species of bird only because of the expectation that it will speak; even the famous African Greys sometimes don't learn to speak, and if that is a person's only reason for buying a bird, the bird could end up abandoned because of the owner's disappointment. In our opinion, parrots make great pets even if they never utter a word).





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COCKATOOS

Species: There are 17 species of cockatoos, most of which are in the genus Cacatua.Most are colored mainly in white, but others come in grays and pinks, blacks, and in the Palm's case, deep blue.
Origin: Australia and the surrounding islands.


Size:
Ranging from the Goffin's, at about 12"-13", to the huge Goliath Palm cockatoo, at 27" long.

Life Span: 40-60 years and up. There have been some reported cases of cockatoos living to be over 100, but most of these are unsubstantiated.

Buying: Buying from a breeder is preferable to buying from a pet shop, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is the price; pet shops generally charge about double what breeders do. A good breeder will spend a lot of time on socialization of your baby bird, cuddling it, loving it, as well as providing many toys and other enrichment. A good breeder teaches a baby cockatoo how to play on it's own, as well as how to get attention in ways other than screaming - a common problem in cockatoos. When looking for that "perfect" cockatoo, shop around - check out different breeders, different pet shops, compare the housing of the birds, the birds themselves, and the breeder him- or herself. Find a breeder you're comfortable with and a baby you love. Don't buy unweaned! Unless you're experianced at hand-feeding, it's easy to mess it up, and possibly kill the baby. Even if nothing major goes wrong, cockatoos are notorious for being very difficult to wean, and weaned wrong they could develop behavior problems. Leave it to the experts! And buy a fully weaned baby.
Cockatoos are probably some of the top birds that are re-sold as adults, when their owners get tired of their demands or find themselves in a situation where they can no longer cope with them. These birds *usually*, but not always, have some sort of behavior problem that is the reason for giving the bird up. Often, this is screaming. If you're considering one of these second-time-around birds, find out everything possible about the bird, and be ready to deal with some unforeseen behavior problems.

Diet: Cockatoos are not usually picky eaters, although there are more than enough exceptions. A varied diet based on pellets is best. The larger sized pellets are usually prefered; even Goffin's often will eat macaw-sized chunks. Fruits, veggies, and pretty much everything else should be added to the diet daily. Most cockatoos love sharing mealtimes with their "flock", and certain owners will provide their bird with his own plate! Try to include the bird in mealtime even if you'd rather he didn't sit at the table with you; provide him with his own serving of whatever you're eating, within limits. About the only things not to feed are avacado, chocolate, caffiene, and alcohol, which can be toxic to birds. Junk foods high in fat, salt, or sugar should be severely limited. Dairy foods should be watched, but low-lactose dairy foods like skim milk, yogurt, and most cheeses are usually great. Even meat can be fed, although beef and pork should only be fed in very small amounts; chicken and turkey is better.

Cages/Supplies: The larger the cage, the better, of course! Cockatoos are big birds! Goffin's, Galahs, and Lesser Sulphur Cresteds usually do fine in something about 2' x 2' x 3', but most larger cockatoos should really be in something at least 2' x 3' x 3' or larger. Plenty of toys are practically a necessity; cockatoos are BIG chewers and expect to replace these pretty routinely! A playstand is also a wonderful thing, and allows your bird someplace to be when he's not on the cage and you don't want him right on you (although that's probably where he'd prefer to be!).

Grooming: Most cockatoos LOVE baths... Spray-baths being the usual preferred method. The spray bottle should be set so it sprays a fine mist; start out by spraying *over* the bird, so the mist falls down like rain, but many 'toos will want you to spray directly on them after a while. Cockatoo bathing usually involves much positioning and posing so that the water falls on every area of the body. Most will want you to spray and spray until they're absolutely soaking wet, and this is fine (well, your hand my not be fine after all that spraying, but otherwise!).
Wings and nails should always be kept trimmed. Ideally you would have someone demonstrate both these procedures before trying them yourself, although a hand-fed cockatoo that's used to handling is usually not difficult to trim, as they don't mind their wings extended or their toes played with. Get the bird used to this while he's young.

Personality: Cockatoos are well-known for their personalities, which can pretty much be summed up in one word - "Cuddly"! They love to be held and loved and touched all over. They'll sit for hours cuddling next to you while you just scratch away. They're very loving, affectionate birds. They're also very playful, and destructive. A well-raised cockatoo is an absolute doll; a hog for attention, a socialite (cockatoos are not usually one-person birds), and just a pleasure to have around. On the other hand, a badly-raised in the wrong hands is a nightmare! Make sure you know what you're getting into before you bring that utra-cuddly, perfectly sweet bird home!

Noise Leval: Cockatoos are LOUD. In fact, they are arguably the loudest of the parrots. Cockatoos WILL scream - don't think you can train them out of it. Cockatoos love screaming and will scream for the sheer joy of screaming, usually in periods once or twice a day (usually morning and evening). The smaller cockatoos are quieter simply due to reduced size, but even a Goffin's is loud. And a Mollucan?!?! Watch out!

Talking Ability: Cockatoos aren't top talkers. Most individuals say a few words, but many do not. A few become very good. Their voices don't have the tone and quality of an African grey's or Amazon's, but they're usually understandable enough.

In General: Cockatoos absolutely adore attention, and while all of this is usually appealing to prospective owners, it isn't as good as it sounds; cockatoos whose owners havn't set limits or guidelines, still love attention, and when they don't get it, they'll scream. And scream, and scream, and scream. And possibly pluck their feathers out. With training and guidelines, this can be prevented, but it's much harder to cure. Cockatoos are not for owners with no bird experiance, and not for owners who can't establish guidelines and teach a bird how to play by itself, and really, not for owners who work long work hours. That's not to say there has to be someone home with the bird all the time, but at the same time, if the only time you have for the bird is a few hours in the evenings, than maybe a more independent species would fit into the house hold better.
Cockatoos are also very destructive. They love chewing and will do so, whether it's on that new $30 toy you just bought, or a paper towel roll, or that family heirloom antique dresser. Cockatoos are very "me" birds; your world revolves around them, plain and simple, or else! They're usually good family birds, not generally being one-person birds, and also usually very gentle. They're wonderful birds, but they are most definately NOT for everyone.

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i had love bird before. the nice green and red coloured ones. they laid eggs summore, cos my mom put the cage beside a tree with a lot of plants around it too. so i think they kind of felt at home. but then they kept breaking the eggs. no experience or mebbe at that time we dunno how to prepare a proper nest for them. one time the eggs broke, red ants came and tapao everything. including the birds. we only realized the next day and it was too late =(
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QUOTE(eyerule @ Aug 6 2006, 10:52 AM)
i had love bird before. the nice green and red coloured ones. they laid eggs summore, cos my mom put the cage beside a tree with a lot of plants around it too. so i think they kind of felt at home. but then they kept breaking the eggs. no experience or mebbe at that time we dunno how to prepare a proper nest for them. one time the eggs broke, red ants came and tapao everything. including the birds. we only realized the next day and it was too late =(
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Wah, the red ants so geng ar. blink.gif I am not sure for love birds, but for budgies, I provide a home-made wooden box, since they cant make their own nest. I think the bird break the eggs because maybe they lack experience or maybe the egg is not fertilised or spoilt already. Tree should never be near a bird cage because you never noe what is inside. wink.gif

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Ah... lovebirds will lay eggs once a while.... sometimes it can't be stopped, like chickens lah... chickens cannot stop laying eggs... well, they do rest but I mean they will lay eggs till they cannot produce anymore...

Anyway, you need a proper nest box. The eggs break coz maybe no nest box? We started with 1 pair... ended up with 9 baby lovebirds hahahah....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Aug 6 2006, 08:59 PM)
Ah... lovebirds will lay eggs once a while.... sometimes it can't be stopped, like chickens lah... chickens cannot stop laying eggs... well, they do rest but I mean they will lay eggs till they cannot produce anymore...

Anyway, you need a proper nest box. The eggs break coz maybe no nest box? We started with 1 pair... ended up with 9 baby lovebirds hahahah....
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Can a run away budgie survive in the wild? Anyone has breed budgie?Share ur experince... rclxms.gif
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Well, I personally think that they cant survive gua. because they are well feed when in the cage, then suddenly need to find food themselves, and they are not taught to do so when small. So I tink will die lor. lol.
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wat is spray millet for?what the different compare to the normal food? rclxub.gif
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well, spray millet juz serve as treat. shouldnt feed everyday cause will cause obesity. normal food is......their normal food lor, like staple diet.
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bird aslo can b fat?wat will happen of bird became fat?cant fly?lol
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yup. birds can also be fat. If fat rite, they can get a lot of disease like heart disease or cancer. For ur info, all seed diets, which is high in fat can also cause obesity.
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hehe, y so quiet suddenly. feel free to ask questions.lol
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anyone feed cuttlefish to budgie?It is useful? i read somewhere to breed budgie,it need soft food.What is soft food?
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Aug 12 2006, 01:37 AM)
anyone feed cuttlefish to budgie?It is useful? i read somewhere to breed budgie,it need soft food.What is soft food?
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cuttlefish is important for birds. jUz put them in the cage and the bird will eat them. It is for trimming their beaks and provide calcium. "bout the soft food, i tink it is an egg product. high in protein so useful for breeding. I m not sure so wait for others opinion. The birds may not eat them at first time, gotto be patience.
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Aug 14 2006, 10:21 PM)
cuttlefish is important for birds. jUz put them in the cage and the bird will eat them. It is for trimming their beaks and provide calcium. "bout the soft food, i tink it is an egg product. high in protein so useful for breeding. I m not sure so wait for others opinion. The birds may not eat them at first time, gotto be patience.
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Then how to make them eat?
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well, i juz clip it to the cage. slowly, they will eat it. juz leave the cuttlebone alone, it wont spoilt anyway. the bird's curiosity will make it eat the cuttlebone.

last time i scared the birds will finish the cuttlebones very quickly, so bought so many packets. now realise that one bone can last very long....
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well, i juz clip it to the cage. slowly, they will eat it. juz leave the cuttlebone alone, it wont spoilt anyway. the bird's curiosity will make it eat the cuttlebone.

last time i scared the birds will finish the cuttlebones very quickly, so bought so many packets. now realise that one bone can last very long....
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Aug 18 2006, 01:40 PM)
Actually i wanna ask how to make budgie eat the soft food.Sorry for the misunderstanding...Nobody here breed bird?
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well, i dun rili have experince in feeding my bird soft food. but u can try the starving method. do it for a few days. then the bird will be curious enough the try it out.

breed birds veli difficult one ar. first need to choose a pair of birs, preferably already in love. then must be from different parents. to avoid inbreeding. then prepare nest box for them. need to feed them a wide range of food, some must be high in protein. then must noe how to hand feed a baby bird, in case the parents abondon the babies. lol, u can tried it out and share wif us ur experince. anyway, must choose a bird older than one year. cause immature parents can cause problems. smile.gif
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how much is a parrot i realli wanna buy 1 preferably african grey i just wanna prepare my money.....
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oo. african grey rili expensive lor. are u a beginner? if yes, its better to start wif cockatiels or budgies. anyway, african grey can up to RM1000+, not sure coz havent seen any. lol.

besides, my budgie die tis morning.. cry.gif cry.gif so sad. then i feel sorry for him coz din do anyting for him before. cry.gif i saw some wounds on his wing when i took the body out. its still got blood stains. dun noe wat happen... cry.gif
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Aug 22 2006, 12:11 PM)
oo. african grey rili expensive lor. are u a beginner? if yes, its better to start wif cockatiels or budgies. anyway, african grey can up to RM1000+, not sure coz havent seen any. lol.

besides, my budgie die tis morning.. cry.gif  cry.gif so sad. then i feel sorry for him coz din do anyting for him before. cry.gif i saw some wounds on his wing when i took the body out. its still got blood stains. dun noe wat happen... cry.gif
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AG.... Rm1.2k for untame adult... for a hatchling.. around RM1.9k above.... coz my bro got his at RM2.7k as a hatchling.

Hmmm... I think your budgie got attacked by a cat lah.

My condolences.... poor budgie sad.gif He is now in peace, at least he had a good owner like you.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Aug 22 2006, 09:22 PM)
My condolences.... poor budgie sad.gif He is now in peace, at least he had a good owner like you.
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Thanks crazymouse. It is a pity that such beautiful creature had to die. When I buried him, I juz cant cover its face. the cute little thing... cry.gif Besides, the eyes are widely open when he died. Dunno what happened.... There are some stray cats around my house coz next to my house is a piece of empty land. There are many attacks before but the cat cant find way harm my birds coz the cage spacing is quite small. Besides, I did cover my cage with cloth. Sigh....

Now left two birds onli...must take good care of them...
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Aiyo....the mites on my birds feet is increasing....now treating with Dettol. Hope it help. Actually got tell my friend to get ivermectin (for treating mites but actually is dewormer for horses) but he said must get from vets. Sigh....where got vets near my town area lar...!!
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Get the mite spray for birds, some petshops do sell
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yep. got one already. lol. its a four paw product.
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argh!! the cat come n kacau my bird AGAIN!! mad.gif vmad.gif
Sit on top of the cage and make the birds scare. they flew around in the cage and birds cant really see well at nite. so they juz flew blindly. luckily i put some bells in the cage. so i tink they knock it and make some sound. makes me curious y are they still playing at tis time?

Last time the same tings happened. bells ring at night. then thought they juz knock it or wat. din not go n take a look. the next day, found one died.

aiyo. hope the cats dont disturb my bird ar!! sad.gif
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Aug 30 2006, 08:45 PM)
argh!! the cat come n kacau my bird AGAIN!!  mad.gif  vmad.gif
Sit on top of the cage and make the birds scare. they flew around in the cage and birds cant really see well at nite. so they juz flew blindly. luckily i put some bells in the cage. so i tink they knock it and make some sound. makes me curious y are they still playing at tis time?

Last time the same tings happened. bells ring at night. then thought they juz knock it or wat. din not go n take a look. the next day, found one died.

aiyo. hope the cats dont disturb my bird ar!! sad.gif
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Keep your budgies indoors at night.... I mean it is safer lah.... I experienced such things with wild cats before...
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lol. my cage is quite big leh-the rectangle one...keep in doors? my mum certainly wont allow. now will try to buy a big piece of cloth so can cover the whole cage.

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No one keep birds? So few people here.
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haha. birds not popular ar? but it seems that i also dun have much time to check on my birds....
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anyone have cockatiels, are fun to play with?
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LOL....I forgot still got this thread. Cockatiels are certainly fun to have. They like to perch on your shoulder once they bond with you. But you should only have one bird so that he will want to have attention from you.
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Jul 30 2007, 09:49 PM)
anyone have cockatiels, are fun to play with?
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Tiels are great little parrots. Small in size, they are not too noisy... well, their noise is bearable lah. I have 2 but then they are not bonded.

You should get 1, best would be a hand-tamed young tiel. They will bond, are not afraid of humans and of course love to mimic noises. If you're lucky, it might talk too but I find tiels like to mimic whistling and sounds more than talk.
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I had 2 cockatiels.. bought at petaling street long time ago.. the shop cheated me that they will learn to talk. and call me to buy 2 cassets then on for them to hear.. but it doesnt work.
Everyday i let them out and fly around the house. but its a hard time bringing them back.. i had the cage opened... they sometimes will go back sometimes wont. when i try to grab them .. they bit me till my flesh is seen and blood ozzing out. cry.gif

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if not wrong, they can talk, but need to keep single. then you MUST have the patience and time to teach it. One word at a time. Even budgies can talk.

Of coz its hard to catch them. actually you have to train them before letting them out. If you must, you can clip their wings first. Besides, if they are trained, they will fly to you. and biting is their last means of defence. So you have to bear with it. Do not show fear as they will learn that biting you will set them free.

They also need lots of fresh food (Pasta, rice, veges, fruits etc). If only on a seed diet, sure they will die early. Seeds are just like junk food. You may also consider feeding them seeds and pellets, in addition to lots of fresh food. Budgies if feed on straight seed diet, die in 3 yrs. But if feed with a wide variety of food, can live up to thirteen years or even more. (Tiels not sure... tongue.gif)

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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 31 2007, 02:49 PM)
if not wrong, they can talk, but need to keep single. then you MUST have the patience and time to teach it. One word at a time. Even budgies can talk.

Of coz its hard to catch them. actually you have to train them before letting them out. If you must, you can clip their wings first. Besides, if they are trained, they will fly to you. and biting is their last means of defence. So you have to bear with it. Do not show fear as they will learn that biting you will set them free.

They also need lots of fresh food (Pasta, rice, veges, fruits etc). If only on a seed diet, sure they will die early. Seeds are just like junk food. You may also consider feeding them seeds and pellets, in addition to lots of fresh food. Budgies if feed on straight seed diet, die in 3 yrs. But if feed with a wide variety of food, can live up to thirteen years or even more. (Tiels not sure... tongue.gif)

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You are spot on correct. Keeping in pairs will not make the birds tame and talk or whistle.... only single birds have successful taming. It is possible to talk but tiels like to whistle more haahhah..... budgies are actually good talkers if they learn early.

Tiels can live up to 25 years..... African Grey lagi long, 60 years hahahah.
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haha...big parrots like macaw also live very long. So keeping birds are also a long time commitment.
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Yes... macaws can go up to 70 years if taken with great care. My granduncle's blue and gold macaw is close to 30 years....
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wahh....blue and gold macaw. my favourite. LOL...but the price is so so interesting. RM1K-2k++
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HAhaha... price of course expensive... but then if got the money, kinda worth it since can live 60 to 70 years with great care. My bro's AG cost my dad RM2.7k 8 years ago.... now the price dropped... Rm1.8k can get a chick already.
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if only got an owl, can join dis forum ar? biggrin.gif

nway, dis is my 'luci in the sky with demons'.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Aug 1 2007, 08:11 PM)
HAhaha... price of course expensive... but then if got the money, kinda worth it since can live 60 to 70 years with great care. My bro's AG cost my dad RM2.7k 8 years ago.... now the price dropped... Rm1.8k can get a chick already.
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if only got an owl, can join dis forum ar?  biggrin.gif

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LOL..can can. But I think owls not suitable for pets lar. They need to fly around and search for food, not meant to keep in cage for display. Or maybe you keep her in a big big aviary? smile.gif
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i didnt know the tread existed ><"
well actually i was thinking on getting one of those bird-brain but im not too sure on which is suitable for me
cockatoos is in my top list, but since u guys just lay out all the details, i guess it would be my second, or maybe third choice, i mean, im not that familiar with bird, and all this clipping and all just new for me, and after sufing some videos for taming birds, im actually excited to get 1, just not sure where to pick one =(
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QUOTE([W]ee[D] @ Aug 8 2007, 07:00 PM)
i didnt know the tread existed ><"
well actually i was thinking on getting one of those bird-brain but im not too sure on which is suitable for me
cockatoos is in my top list, but since u guys just lay out all the details, i guess it would be my second, or maybe third choice, i mean, im not that familiar with bird, and all this clipping and all just new for me, and after sufing some videos for taming birds, im actually excited to get 1, just not sure where to pick one =(
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You willing to commit 60 years for this bird? Cockatoos are very affectionate parrots but then they are wood crazy. They will want to gnaw on wood every time and not all trees are suitable for them in Malaysia.... They need constant attention since these birds need affection from their mate.... not recommended to get a pair since they will not bond to you so if you get a single one, it will look up to you as its partner.

Cockatoos are loud too. They need a big cage and also pelleted food and fruits. Seeds as snacks or treats are ok. Taming is easy when they are chicks but when matured, very hard. One chick can easily cost Rm2k... needs license too I think. The easiest cockatoo to get in Malaysia would be the Sulfur Crested.
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yea i was wondering about the license and i think i might go for something less troublesome for my 1st bird pet, and maybe i would like to try love birds before taking those big birds ><"
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QUOTE([W]ee[D] @ Aug 9 2007, 01:13 AM)
yea i was wondering about the license and i think i might go for something less troublesome for my 1st bird pet, and maybe i would like to try love birds before taking those big birds ><"
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Well, you can start with a budgie or cockatiel.


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they do? hmmp, budgie and cockatiel huh, oh well maybe i should give it a try and its been long since i visit any pet shops, and rarely birds pet shop, any recommendation ?
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tame budgie are nice to play with.


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where you get your owl from? u got big cage for it?

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i got 1 gembala kambing.speaking one..

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just bought 2 budgie from bohrlin few days back rclxms.gif
at first they are in the same cage, but as a test, im giving 1 to my bro to take care of it
while the other is with me, 1 is super-hyper active, 1 is abit slow hmm.gif
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QUOTE([W]ee[D] @ Sep 4 2007, 07:41 PM)
just bought 2 budgie from bohrlin few days back rclxms.gif
at first they are in the same cage, but as a test, im giving 1 to my bro to take care of it
while the other is with me, 1 is super-hyper active, 1 is abit slow hmm.gif
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Congrats! Males or females?

Budgies make interesting bird buddies. Bonding takes time, must earn their trust heheheh.... try handfeeding them.
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the one im keeping is a male, a quiet English male budgie
i already done hand feed but im gonna keep on feeding them this way
also its hilarious when he realized that i already pull him out of the cage while he's nipping my hand eating the millets away biggrin.gif
now im starting to feed him on the top of the cage, letting him be more relax and to make him feel the outside is not that bad
still i know it would take time,there are more worse problem then mine so i have to say im abit lucky laugh.gif
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how much to buy a budgie in kl smile.gif ?
can it recognise me?
i m kinda interested in it.. but need more details
can i keep it inside the room?
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how much to  buy a budgie in kl smile.gif ?
can it recognise me?
i m kinda interested in it.. but need more details
can i keep it inside the room?
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bare in mind that bonding really takes time, and i think mine would be years lol
can it recognise you? not sure i can answer that cuz my bird also respond with my other roomates
i am keeping it in my room, letting it out sometimes to explore, and pick him up once awhile
i tried to gather my budgie with my brothers one (they were a couple before separating them) and now its more alienating me
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ Jul 31 2007, 02:49 PM)
if not wrong, they can talk, but need to keep single. then you MUST have the patience and time to teach it. One word at a time. Even budgies can talk.

Of coz its hard to catch them. actually you have to train them before letting them out. If you must, you can clip their wings first. Besides, if they are trained, they will fly to you. and biting is their last means of defence. So you have to bear with it. Do not show fear as they will learn that biting you will set them free.

They also need lots of fresh food (Pasta, rice, veges, fruits etc). If only on a seed diet, sure they will die early. Seeds are just like junk food. You may also consider feeding them seeds and pellets, in addition to lots of fresh food. Budgies if feed on straight seed diet, die in 3 yrs. But if feed with a wide variety of food, can live up to thirteen years or even more. (Tiels not sure... tongue.gif)

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I have a pair of budgies too, I bought from Pet Wonderland. They only tell me to feed seeds. I didn't know budgies can eat other stuff too. I did try to feed fruits, but they don't want to eat. When you mentioned rice & pasta, are those cooked or uncooked? What kind of veg is suitable then?

I like to see them play. The green one is very active and playful, like to turn round and round and round upside down for many times. First time own a bird pet actually.

I do notice my budgies like to make sound follow music melody.
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hmm.. budgies are so EXPENSIVE NOWADAYs,,

back when i was younger they were like RM15!?!

hahahaha!!

I have a pair of male cockatiels now.. anyone has experience with cockatiels?

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QUOTE(chrissyhia @ Sep 28 2007, 12:33 AM)
hmm.. budgies are so EXPENSIVE NOWADAYs,,

back when i was younger they were like RM15!?!

hahahaha!!

I have a pair of male cockatiels now.. anyone has experience with cockatiels?
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I got a male and female pair hahaha....

You also into birds? What colours are your males? Young tiels or adults?
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ohh mine are very young.. compared to those at the pet shop.. they happily eat from my hand...

at one point in time, they would stand on my hand.. then i had no time to train them and now it's just back to eating from my hand..

two very cute males =)
i was thinking of getting a female for them to .. LAY EGGS la.. but then im scared 'THREE's A CROWD!!' so how ah? my two males are very happy together now...

should i introduce a female? but then ah.. VERY expensive oso la these birds!!!

i went to this other pet shop with different types and colours,, then each type different price... cheapest is RM130! my goodness!!!
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QUOTE(chrissyhia @ Sep 28 2007, 09:57 AM)
ohh mine are very young.. compared to those at the pet shop.. they happily eat from my hand...

at one point in time, they would stand on my hand.. then i had no time to train them and now it's just back to eating from my hand..

two very cute males =)
i was thinking of getting a female for them to .. LAY EGGS la.. but then im scared 'THREE's A CROWD!!' so how ah? my two males are very happy together now...

should i introduce a female? but then ah.. VERY expensive oso la these birds!!!

i went to this other pet shop with different types and colours,, then each type different price... cheapest is RM130! my goodness!!!
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Ohhh... you got from a breeder? I have an untamed pair, got from petshop loh... that was I think 7 or 8 years ago.... that time 1 pair Rm140 hahahaha....

Nah, just stick with your current pair. Bond with them. I used to have a Lutino male, was a wild adult but I actually managed to tame him to sit on my shoulder, walk up and down my arm and hands, whistle many tunes. Because I kept him alone, he looked up to me as his companion, so he was really sweet. When he wants me to scratch his head, he would bow down his head when I place my hand near him. Sad news, it took me about 2 years to train him to be so tame.... then in his 3rd year, he got killed.... a rat went into his cage and bit off his feet and chewed up his wings.... it was so horrible and blood was everywhere. I cried for days.

Then 2 years later, decided to get a pair. Thought I could at least get some babies so I can tame lah. So I bought an adult pair.... they didn't bond to me but the male likes to play whistling with me. I bred them a few times, all not successful because the female wasn't a good mom. Her babies once hatch, died in a few days. Then I took one away and handfed her, but she only lasted 3 weeks, then died when I had to go away for 1 night.... my brother said the baby tiel died coz missed me too much... sigh.... I got so heartbroken that I decided not to let them breed anymore.

Cockatiels now expensive coz Malaysia has stopped the importation and exportation of pet birds after the bird flu incident.... this is what the petshop owner told me. Because of this, the prices all increase coz too much demand. I saw a White Face Tiel for sale, a 6 month old baby but not hand-fed, Rm130 only.... I'm interested to buy but then where to put? LOL.... if someone is willing to take my male and female pair, then I would have space and time to train a young bird.....
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i don't mind taking yours in if you want.. ive been lookin for a white face tiel too.. to mate with my err.. NORMAL ones? hahaha but those i saw looked unhealthy!!

i take very good care of my tiels =)
i bought a new cage for them.. more spacious sideways =) cos they don't really fly.. they get so excited when they see me la! i just <3 them =) urs are very old ah?
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QUOTE(chrissyhia @ Sep 28 2007, 09:05 PM)
i don't mind taking yours in if you want..  ive been lookin for a white face tiel too.. to mate with my err.. NORMAL ones? hahaha but those i saw looked unhealthy!!

i take very good care of my tiels =)
i bought a new cage for them.. more spacious sideways =) cos they don't really fly.. they get so excited when they see me la! i just <3 them =) urs are very old ah?
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Hmm... my cage is a 3ft high cage with a trolley roller that is about 2.5ft, then it is about 2ft by 2ft all around.... was one of those parrot cages but with smaller bars, good enough for tiels.....

Hahah... mine not tame lah.... summore is 1 male and 1 female, really bonded. I have had them for 8 years already. Both are normal greys.

Yah, I saw a White Face today at Petaling Street, it was a male.... adult, really nice but I'd rather get a young tiel or hand-fed one.... Ah, next time lah.

I like only a few types of parrots, the Cockatiel, Eclectus, Sun Conure and sulfur crested cockatoo..... when I have my own place, sure will get a tiel and sun conure 1st heheheh coz both are the affordable types.
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i saw a white face at petaling street.. only got 1.. looked quite unhealthy..

anyway.. i have the citroen-crested cockatoo.. cannot talk.. but smaller size and very cute =)
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i was beginning to think the thread was dead laugh.gif
nice to know someone new who likes birdies rclxms.gif
just passing by to tell dont buy those guillotine cages, i really regret it sweat.gif
buy the cage with swing doors, and make em big brows.gif
hmm, i wanna try to feed my budgie with donuts laugh.gif




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i saw a white face at petaling street.. only got 1.. looked quite unhealthy..

anyway.. i have the citroen-crested cockatoo.. cannot talk.. but smaller size and very cute =)
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I saw the same one. Yah, not very healthy.

I got too many birds at home already heheheh.

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QUOTE([W]ee[D] @ Sep 30 2007, 12:10 AM)
i was beginning to think the thread was dead laugh.gif
nice to know someone new who likes birdies rclxms.gif
just passing by to tell dont buy those guillotine cages, i really regret it sweat.gif
buy the cage with swing doors, and make em big brows.gif
hmm, i wanna try to feed my budgie with donuts laugh.gif
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Swing doors one are better.

Feed donuts? Good meh? Hehehehe.
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i dont think swing doors are better.. the birds can easily escape.. i like the normal doors that you raise... swing doors u open only so easy for the birds to escape!

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Normal doors that raise.... my lovebirds know how to open and escape loh..... For me, swing doors are better coz got a latch to lock lah. Anyway, it depends on cages.

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i dont think swing doors are better.. the birds can easily escape.. i like the normal doors that you raise... swing doors u open only so easy for the birds to escape!

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for tame bird are ok cause they wont escape..swing door aslo got latch ma..
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QUOTE(chrissyhia @ Sep 30 2007, 02:04 PM)
i dont think swing doors are better.. the birds can easily escape.. i like the normal doors that you raise... swing doors u open only so easy for the birds to escape!

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instead of using the cage to "jail" it, i prefer buying a cage thats is suitable as a "room" for it, in dun wanna make it feel like they are imprison. and since im only taking care of 1 bird instead of 2, sense of freedom to me is crucial
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QUOTE([W]ee[D] @ Oct 2 2007, 11:31 AM)
instead of using the cage to "jail" it, i prefer buying a cage thats is suitable as a "room" for it, in dun wanna make it feel like they are imprison. and since im only taking care of 1 bird instead of 2, sense of freedom to me is crucial
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Oct 2 2007, 12:34 PM)
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laugh.gif taiko, u bz whole week, preparation for your weeding izzit brows.gif
i tested today, by opening the door, Ken as what i call my budgie, walks in and out of the cage freely, and im not sure why but today he screams for attention, im sensing mating season is coming brows.gif

or it might be my trance and hiphop music hmm.gif who knows cool.gif .....music freak laugh.gif
oh well, as long as Ken is happy, im happy rclxm9.gif

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how is the other bird doin..is great that ken can walk freely..so nice..post some pic la..
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Why Choose A Bird?
--> Birds are cheerful pets and can be kept in small flats and in units where dogs and cats are not allowed. Besides, they do not cost much to feed. Some birds can be teach to talk while others have a beautiful voice. Birds do not take up a lot of space, just a big cage is enough. Below are some popular species that are often keep as pets.

Budgerigar

Budgerigar are also known as budgie. They are a type of parakeet and is an ideal pet for beginners. Budgies are often chosen for their pretty colours, easy to take care and yes, they can be trained to talk! A male bird makes the bes talker and should be kept alone if you want it to talk besides forming a good relationship with you. That is because two birds will chatter to each other and show less interest in copying the human voice. Anyway, if you don't have enough time or you just want to keep them for fun, then it is better to have two or more.

Advantages:
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2. Easy to care for
3. Their main diet is just seeds. But you gotto feed them fruits and veggies so that they can have a balanced diet.
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for a tame bird will they walk ontop ur head & wont fly off if let them roam free?
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yes they will walk on your head but most probably they will just stay on your shoulder.tame budgie is great pet with low maintenance.they wont fly off because you are their friend.
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Oct 7 2007, 02:56 PM)
yes they will walk on your head but most probably they will just stay on your shoulder.tame budgie is great pet with low maintenance.they wont fly off because you are their friend.
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Oct 6 2007, 07:14 PM)
how is the other bird doin..is great that ken can walk freely..so nice..post some pic la..
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i dunno la bro, Ken's mood always changes, sleepy, hyper, shy, scared, brave,i also pelik la this little guy
sometimes like my hand, sometimes run from it rclxub.gif
nvm la, as long as he likes my singing, i'll entertain him more laugh.gif
i'll try to get some photo's after i can find a decent camera, my phone got no phone-2-pc cable cry.gif
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Tame birds are really great to have.... mine all untame.... well, not all, just a few are tame enough to handle but still they need a cage at times coz my home also got dogs.

Get a bigger parrot lah. My uncle has a blue and gold macaw, damn evil to everyone. He will screech and squawk at you, try to tear your clothes if you walk near and give a hard nip. But with my uncle, gentle like kitten, manja manja.
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yeah, and if we put a leash on it and we put it outside, its scare the hell of any bugler laugh.gif

how long did your uncle kept the parrot?
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30 years I think... his macaw is still here hhahah....

My brother's african grey is 8 years old now.... and it still has about 52 years more LOL.... goodness.... he can pass it to his grandchildren.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Oct 9 2007, 09:03 PM)
Tame birds are really great to have.... mine all untame.... well, not all, just a few are tame enough to handle but still they need a cage at times coz my home also got dogs.

Get a bigger parrot lah. My uncle has a blue and gold macaw, damn evil to everyone. He will screech and squawk at you, try to tear your clothes if you walk near and give a hard nip. But with my uncle, gentle like kitten, manja manja.
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macaw nip can break our finger....becareful..haha


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30 years I think... his macaw is still here hhahah....

My brother's african grey is 8 years old now.... and it still has about 52 years more LOL.... goodness.... he can pass it to his grandchildren.
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can your african bird talk? big bird is nice...the pet shop @ the curve got a parrot so tame, can anyone can rub the head..

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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Oct 10 2007, 12:19 AM)
i aslo have 2 dog but they are good with my bird...wont bite..hahaha. safe to let them together without supervision..
macaw nip can break our finger....becareful..haha


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can your african bird talk? big bird is nice...the pet shop @ the curve got a parrot so tame, can anyone can rub the head..
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My dog won't bite but she would chase.... can give any bird a heart attack. Last time my shih tzu was ok, I can let my late cockatiel walk freely.... now got 2 untame cockatiels, really hard to tame since bought as an adult pair. We got 1 budgie, found in my dad's office's garden.... dunno came from where but semi-tame. Will always be on our decorative plant when we let it out....

AG only can talk a few words.... very shy loh. Congo more out going, my brother's one is a Timneh and will only allow my brother to handle her... we all, sure kena nip. 1 man bird.
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wah you got so many type of bird. your congo ag put in cage or on stand only? are they very active?
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QUOTE(bohrlin @ Oct 11 2007, 11:42 AM)
wah you got so many type of bird. your congo ag put in cage or on stand only? are they very active?
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Mine timneh lah.... anyway, it is in a large cage situated in the living room.... We didn't go for stand coz my uncle's macaw dislocated it's leg or something coz of stand....

Birds.... alot.... coz of my bro lah... he loves parrots. Our 1st birds were of course budgies, we had 6 last time. Then we got the AG coz he cried for it, cost my dad rm2.7k.... crazy.... now I think can get cheaper ones. Anyway, then it led to Fischer lovebirds, 1 pair, bred 7 chicks but we didn't handfeed them so not very tame.... next was a Hill Mynah, my dad's bird.... it would pinch and strike me but only my dad is his fav person. Can take out from cage, sit on my dad's arm and manja manja with my dad.... with us, super attack mode. Crazy bird LOL....

Then came the rescued Budgie, must be hand tame coz it didn't bite ppl and would let us handle him. Then an orphan Zebra Dove that dropped from our roof.... then my 2 cockatiels.
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wah that really a lot of bird..so fun..
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My home sounds like the jungle every morning..... coz all the birds will make noise as they see light hahhah.
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yeah..then we can bring all our bird there..haha

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LOL... speaking of bird parties.... i got friends in Singapore, every weekend, they have a bird meeting.... a group of people gather at a coffee shop outside, have tea with their parrots... Kinda nice loh coz the birds are tame, no cages, all on the bench or makeshift perches there. I'll dig up some pics and post later.
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Bunch of NBTD people's lol
it would be nice if we can do the same.


Added on October 22, 2007, 8:01 pm

guys, 1 of my birds feather drops already, the tip looks like its broken and theres some dry blood on it. whats going on?

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maybe ur bird drop down from the cage .. since the blood already dry so no worry..if the blood still dripping then stop it by using cornflour.
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Guys,

I have a pair of peach-faced love birds which I bought separately around 6 months ago. One of them suddenly start to develop something on both side of the face. I am not sure how to explain it, something like a whole in the face. I have attached the photo.

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I think its over grooming..... coz lovebirds like to preen each other, especially the face and neck area. Do monitor grooming activities..... as for a vet with avian knowledge, I only know AMC's Dr Siva and also a vet working in UPM that can treat birds.... other vets do not have any idea.
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Thanks for your reply crazymouse.

I went to see Hesmael's CLinic in Kota Damansara as he treats quite variety of pets and I have seen him with parrots.

So he says it's most likely the pair is plucking/over grooming his feathers not himself. He recommended to split them if possible at to give food which is more rich with Omega Fatty oil like sunflower seeds

The erratic behaviors he thinks its most likely epilepsy and nothing much can be done to a lovebird. He recommeded to give Vitamin B supplements for birds which helps strengthening the nerves.
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Hope your bird will be beautiful again. R they tame?
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 15 2008, 09:44 PM)
I think its over grooming..... coz lovebirds like to preen each other, especially the face and neck area. Do monitor grooming activities..... as for a vet with avian knowledge, I only know AMC's Dr Siva and also a vet working in UPM that can treat birds.... other vets do not have any idea.
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yup.. agreed.

thats why theyre called "love"birds cuz they just cant stop showering affection on each other.

you also can try giving them more toys so they wont get bored.


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A budgie is about RM18 to Rm25... Well, last time I bought Rm18 lah and recently saw RM25.

Just google for Budgerigar Caresheets. I don't read online coz I have magazines and books that has caresheets and guides.

Keep in your room? Budgies are a bit noisy, all parrots are lah. Keeping in your room is not healthy since the bird poo can contain mold and fungus when dried. Also when it is molting season, your room may be full of down feathers on the floor.

All birds need sunlight once a while. Parrots can also be messy eaters and scatter seeds and fruit pulp on the floor.
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Let me introduce my cockatiels, Jojo and Nico rclxms.gif ....really love them thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 15 2008, 09:44 PM)
I think its over grooming..... coz lovebirds like to preen each other, especially the face and neck area. Do monitor grooming activities..... as for a vet with avian knowledge, I only know AMC's Dr Siva and also a vet working in UPM that can treat birds.... other vets do not have any idea.
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yups.. they grooom tooooo much.... it looks as if theyre kissing and thats why theyre called 'love' birds... so gotta be careful... separate if its bad.

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Let me introduce my cockatiels, Jojo and Nico rclxms.gif ....really love them thumbup.gif
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nice tiels you have there... pearl.
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Hi All,

Im looking for a budgie....any idea where i can find a breeder?One more thing...are there any1 here has a talking budgie?I desperately want to train my budgie to talk when i get it later,but i dont know wht is the best way to train?
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Thanks for your reply crazymouse.

I went to see Hesmael's CLinic in Kota Damansara as he treats quite variety of pets and I have seen him with parrots.

So he says it's most likely the pair is plucking/over grooming his feathers not himself. He recommended to split them if possible at to give food which is more rich with Omega Fatty oil like sunflower seeds

The erratic behaviors he thinks its most likely epilepsy and nothing much can be done to a lovebird. He recommeded to give Vitamin B supplements for birds which helps strengthening the nerves.
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hi...can you please give me the add of hesmaels's clinic...i don't need to take my pet bird now...but it may be useful later.thnx.... icon_question.gif


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laugh.gif taiko, u bz whole week, preparation for your weeding izzit brows.gif
i tested today, by opening the door, Ken as what i call my budgie, walks in and out of the cage freely, and im not sure why but today he screams for attention, im sensing mating season is coming brows.gif

or it might be my trance and hiphop music hmm.gif who knows  cool.gif .....music freak laugh.gif
oh well, as long as Ken is happy, im happy rclxm9.gif

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hi....yeah..send us a pic la...btw..im looking for a budgie la...my cockatiel flew away..and im sooo sad cry.gif where can i find a breeder?cos i want to get from like 3 weeks old....can Ken talk?Do you know how to train budgie to talk?hoping to get some replies from you thumbup.gif


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Last Thursday my 3 cute budgies flew away already, all because of my new careless absent minded maid didn't close the cage cover properly.

And then on Saturday I bought a canary back, love it so much, it sings a lot. Wow..I got poisioned by its singing voices. May be I will buy some more singing birds in future. Anybody had any experience in keeping the following singing birds:-

Red-whiskered_Bulbul - (Jambul)
Hwamei or Melodious Laughingthrush
Shama (Murai Batu)
Orienteh White-eye (Puteh)
Magpie Robin

My canary bird only like to sing when it is alone without any birds presence. So I wonder if I would to add additonal birds, should I separate them far far away from each other?

Merbok is also a singing bird, right? My friend's Merbok never sing at all. Is it normal?
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Not all doves sing. They go coo coo croo more hahahah. I have one that only does that when he sees my mom.

Male cockatiels sing. Go youtube and see, you will fall in love with the way cockatiels can mimic.
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Not all doves sing. They go coo coo croo more hahahah. I have one that only does that when he sees my mom.

Male cockatiels sing. Go youtube and see, you will fall in love with the way cockatiels can mimic.
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I saw Hill Mynah in Petaling Street shop (not for sale) can talk, mimic and whistle too. Just wonder how much a Hilly Mynah worth if to compare with Cocktaoo.

Really not all Merbok sing? I always hear a lot of birds singing around my house, definitely not the same as my Canary. And always see Merbok and Mynah birds in front of my house drinking water, if they could sing, then I must try to catch them. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 7 2008, 05:15 PM)
I saw Hill Mynah in Petaling Street shop (not for sale) can talk, mimic and whistle too.  Just wonder how much a Hilly Mynah worth if to compare with Cocktaoo.

Really not all Merbok sing?  I always hear a lot of birds singing around my house, definitely not the same as my Canary.  And always see Merbok and Mynah birds in front of my house drinking water, if they could sing, then I must try to catch them. laugh.gif
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Our merbok/dove is an orphaned bird that we are keeping. Grew to like people, especially my mom and would sing. Croo coo coo croo.... nice and sweet heheheh. But my uncle told me only males sing.

Canary would sing better than merbok.

Mynah is cheaper, RM300 to Rm350 only for a baby while a cockatoo cost about RM3k to Rm5k depending on species. But hill mynahs have a lifespan of 8 to 10 years. One thing..... not all like to learn from you. From experience, my family have kept 3. Our 1st mynah was a talented one. He could mimic and sing very well. Can say

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How much is that doggy in the window, woof woof

Then he wolf whistles, rings like our telephone, he mimics us talking on the phone too. He could call my dogs and scold them hahahh. But sadly, his life ended in 3 years coz the petshop told us to feed the wrong food. High in iron, led to kidney and liver damage.

Our 2nd one was a quiet one. Only would respond to my dad. He too also died coz we tried a natural diet. It lacked proper nutrition from pellets.
Our 3rd and current one is a mimic but he doesn't like to listen to us. He mimics us scolding, mimics the lorry back up tune, whistles a song that my dad taught our african grey..... calls out all sorts of words that are normally in conversations. Whatever we try to teach him, he won't pick up.

Cockatoos got a long lifespan.... and they are wood chewers and dusty birds hahahah. But very comical.
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Hun is poisoning me with birds now... Haha...
Actually, my blur rounded cage is vacant now that I've got bigger cage for my sugar glider... Hmm...

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Get a tame cockatiel. Damn entertaining hahahah. Or a tame Budgie. You should find a video on YouTube. Then lagilah poison heheheh.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 7 2008, 06:19 PM)
Our merbok/dove is an orphaned bird that we are keeping. Grew to like people, especially my mom and would sing. Croo coo coo croo.... nice and sweet heheheh. But my uncle told me only males sing.

Canary would sing better than merbok.

Mynah is cheaper, RM300 to Rm350 only for a baby while a cockatoo cost about RM3k to Rm5k depending on species. But hill mynahs have a lifespan of 8 to 10 years. One thing..... not all like to learn from you. From experience, my family have kept 3. Our 1st mynah was a talented one. He could mimic and sing very well. Can say

Hello
Gong Hei Fatt Choy
How much is that doggy in the window, woof woof

Then he wolf whistles, rings like our telephone, he mimics us talking on the phone too. He could call my dogs and scold them hahahh. But sadly, his life ended in 3 years coz the petshop told us to feed the wrong food. High in iron, led to kidney and liver damage.

Our 2nd one was a quiet one. Only would respond to my dad. He too also died coz we tried a natural diet. It lacked proper nutrition from pellets.
Our 3rd and current one is a mimic but he doesn't like to listen to us. He mimics us scolding, mimics the lorry back up tune, whistles a song that my dad taught our african grey..... calls out all sorts of words that are normally in conversations. Whatever we try to teach him, he won't pick up.

Cockatoos got a long lifespan.... and they are wood chewers and dusty birds hahahah. But very comical.
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Yah... Mynah, need a diet of fruits that are low in iron and also mynah pellets that's sold at petshops. They are kinda dirty, the poo is really not what beginners might like to clean up after hahahah.

Cockatiels, males especially are very comical and talented birds. Females do make good pets but they lack in the singing voice.
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Yah... Mynah, need a diet of fruits that are low in iron and also mynah pellets that's sold at petshops. They are kinda dirty, the poo is really not what beginners might like to clean up after hahahah.

Cockatiels, males especially are very comical and talented birds. Females do make good pets but they lack in the singing voice.
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To keep a Cockatiel, need to apply license or not? Usually when people apply licence is for one bird one licence or one licence to cover all birds?
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 8 2008, 10:26 AM)
To keep a Cockatiel, need to apply license or not?  Usually when people apply licence is for one bird one licence or one licence to cover all birds?
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hi juztiny, nope u dont need a license to keep a cockatiel.. no, its depends on what bird..so meaning..1 bird for each species..or each bird..

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hi juztiny, nope u dont need a license to keep a cockatiel..  no, its depends on what bird..so meaning..1 bird for each species..or each bird..
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I see. Btw, do our council limit a household can only keep how many birds as pet or not? I do not want my neighbour to file a complain to the council that I own a lot of birds (e.g. 6) in future.

I like singing birds and talking birds, so sure would be noisy to neighbours then.
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I see.  Btw, do our council limit a household can only keep how many birds as pet or not?  I do not want my neighbour to file a complain to the council that I own a lot of birds (e.g. 6) in future.

I like singing birds and talking birds, so sure would be noisy to neighbours then.
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Ah, birds got nothing. People would only complain and report if you are keeping many chickens, ducks and geese coz those are noisy and can carry diseases if not cared for properly. With singing birds and pet birds, there is no limit.
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hi all,
my friend recently cought some of these birds in pahang, really don;t know what they call, for sure is a kind of dove family. i can't really see any bird shop selling it too.
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hi all,
my friend recently cought some of these birds in pahang, really don;t know what they call, for sure is a kind of dove family. i can't really see any bird shop selling it too.
and he wanted to sell for rm100 each, is it worth that much? tq smile.gif
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Can sing or not? Cannot sing then not worth RM100 lor. Even Merbok Kampung or Merbok Siam also can get at RM50 each. Some more Merbok can sing.
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 8 2008, 11:23 PM)
Can sing or not?  Cannot sing then not worth RM100 lor.  Even Merbok Kampung or Merbok Siam also can get at RM50 each.  Some more Merbok can sing.
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they can but very weird sound, the rythm like the red indian rythm.


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I see.  Btw, do our council limit a household can only keep how many birds as pet or not?  I do not want my neighbour to file a complain to the council that I own a lot of birds (e.g. 6) in future.

I like singing birds and talking birds, so sure would be noisy to neighbours then.
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i'm keeping 18 birds in my apartment. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 8 2008, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(mann_kl @ Apr 8 2008, 11:28 PM)
they can but very weird sound, the rythm like the red indian rythm.


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i'm keeping 18 birds in my apartment. biggrin.gif
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LOL like red indian rythm?? Funny.... Well..if the sound not really soothing then nego with him for RM30-50 lor.

Walau, you keep 18 birds in apartment, not noisy meh?? What kind of birds collection you have?

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 8 2008, 11:56 PM)
LOL like red indian rythm?? Funny....  Well..if the sound not really soothing then nego with him for RM30-50 lor.

Walau, you keep 18 birds in apartment, not noisy meh??  What kind of birds collection you have?
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1 murai kampung
1 murai batu
1 punai daun
1 punai tanah
1 tekukur kampung
1 tekukur putih
4 diamond dove (yello, white, grey and bluesh grey)
2 merbah jambul
2 merbah putih
2 mata putih
and now 2 merbuk merah (new)
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ Apr 9 2008, 07:43 PM)
1  murai kampung
1  murai batu
1  punai daun
1  punai tanah
1  tekukur kampung
1  tekukur putih
4  diamond dove (yello, white, grey and bluesh grey)
2  merbah jambul
2  merbah putih
2  mata putih
and now 2 merbuk merah (new)
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Wau..that's a lot of expensive collection you have.

In your avatar picture is Murai Batu or Murai Kampung? Btw, how is Merbuk Merah looks like? Are they look the same as Tekukur?
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 9 2008, 09:46 PM)
Wau..that's a lot of expensive collection you have.

In your avatar picture is Murai Batu or Murai Kampung?  Btw, how is Merbuk Merah looks like?  Are they look the same as Tekukur?
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the avatar pic is murai batu(sharma), murai kampung is the blak n white.
actually i'm really not sure about the kind, i just call merbuk merah, thoese pic i shown last time.
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ Apr 10 2008, 12:00 PM)
the avatar pic is murai batu(sharma), murai kampung is the blak n white.
actually i'm really not sure about the kind, i just call merbuk merah, thoese pic i shown last time.
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I'm thinking of keeping Shama too. But nearby my house (Cheras area) I can't find any bird shop near my area, last time got 1 shop in Taman Len Sen Cheras, but closed down already. I know Shama and Magpie needs fresh insects (cricket or mealworms), so can you tell me where else can I get bird shops beside Petaling Street Zoologic?
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I'm thinking of keeping Shama too.  But nearby my house (Cheras area) I can't find any bird shop near my area,  last time got 1 shop in Taman Len Sen Cheras, but closed down already.  I know Shama and Magpie needs fresh insects (cricket or mealworms), so can  you tell me where else can I get bird shops beside Petaling Street Zoologic?
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how much is your budget?
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how much is your budget?
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Hehe..as cheap as possible. I know someone wanted to sell around RM150 - RM300. But the main problem is, if I can't find constant fresh food supplies and pellets for Shama, then no point keeping it, right? I definitely cannot find much insects within my own house, so have to get from bird shops.
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Hehe..as cheap as possible.  I know someone wanted to sell around RM150 - RM300.  But the main problem is, if I can't find constant fresh food supplies and pellets for Shama, then no point keeping it, right?  I definitely cannot find much insects within my own house, so have to get from bird shops.
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well, for the wild cought definately they only eat fresh insect but u need to train them by mixed a bit of dry pallet with fresh cutted mealworm for cricket, but for first week u need to feed them with live cricket day and evening, after for a while then u can see the pallet finished in the container that's mean they use to it.
one more thing, by hand feeding them will made them more tame.
i know one friend selling the sharma arround rm130 each wild cought and young.
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ Apr 10 2008, 01:42 PM)
well, for the wild cought definately they only eat fresh insect but u need to train them by mixed a bit of dry pallet with fresh cutted mealworm for cricket, but for first week u need to feed them with live cricket day and evening, after for a while then u can see the pallet finished in the container that's mean they use to it.
one more thing, by hand feeding them will made them more tame.
i know one friend selling the sharma arround rm130 each wild cought and young.
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Wah, that price is good man. But is it Murai Batu or Murai Kampung? Murai Batu very colourful, thumbup.gif

RM130 good price, I want ! PM me his contact.


Last few days, I bought a pair of young male Merbok Kampung. Can sing.... but attract 4 other wild Merbok to my house daily. Pening kepala... doh.gif

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Wah, that price is good man.  But is it Murai Batu or Murai Kampung?  Murai Batu very colourful,  thumbup.gif

RM130 good price, I want !  PM me his contact.
Last few days, I bought a pair of young male Merbok Kampung. Can sing.... but attract 4 other wild Merbok to my house daily.  Pening kepala... doh.gif
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it is murai batu(sharma) black n red chest. you get the cage? coz MB need huge cage due to the tail, it will grow untill 12" long.
well i've spoken to my friend but he wouldn't want to be known becoz he got no license to sell the MB, but he'll sell if i willing to help him as a middle man. hmm.gif

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it is murai batu(sharma) black n red chest. you get the cage? coz MB need huge cage due to the tail, it will grow untill 12" long.
well i've spoken to my friend but he wouldn't want to be known becoz he got no license to sell the MB, but he'll sell if i willing to help him as a middle man. hmm.gif
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I have a normal plastic cage right now, can use for temporarily. I am looking for 2 quality bamboo/wood bird cages. In 2 weeks time, I'm going up North to Kedah & Penang, so sure can find cheaper price on those cages because near Thailand.

So, for Shama the ideal cage size should be what size?

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I have a normal plastic cage right now, can use for temporarily.  I am looking for 2 quality bamboo/wood bird cages.  In 2 weeks time, I'm going up North to Kedah & Penang, so sure can find cheaper price on those cages because near Thailand.

So, for Shama the ideal cage size should be what size?
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it's true, from thai is cheaper then here and unique. i bought merbuk cage from KB kelantan my home town, macam-macam ada. biggrin.gif
i think the best is 20" x 20".
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it's true, from thai is cheaper then here and unique. i bought merbuk cage from KB kelantan my home town, macam-macam ada. biggrin.gif
i think the best is 20" x 20".
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Oh...20" x 20" is enough?? I thought need to have at least 36" in length.

Where do you buy your Shama food supplies?
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Oh...20" x 20" is enough?? I thought need to have at least 36" in length.

Where do you buy your Shama food supplies?
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any bird shop but for first u have to mixed with mealworms(choped), and hand feed some crickets.
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This morning when I clean my Canary's cage, my Canary escape out from the cage, I thought no way I could get him back, as I was seeing him fly over the roof, thank god my maid never give up keep searching for it, and found it in 6 house away from my house, and we finally caught him back. Phew! sweat.gif My..o..my I thought $$$ flew away.

Immediately after the incident, I clipped its wing away. No more freedom for him.
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This morning when I clean my Canary's cage, my Canary escape out from the cage,  I thought no way I could get him back, as I was seeing him fly over the roof, thank god my maid never give up keep searching for it, and found it in 6 house away from my house, and we finally caught him back.  Phew!  sweat.gif  My..o..my I thought $$$ flew away.

Immediately after the incident, I clipped its wing away.  No more freedom for him.
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u really got a loyal maid. 6 houses ma shocking.gif , luckyly your canary is quite tamed otherwise it will fly into tree not house lo sweat.gif
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u really got a loyal maid. 6 houses ma shocking.gif , luckyly your canary is quite tamed otherwise it will fly into tree not house lo sweat.gif
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Aha..my maid also fell in love with this Canary songbird. Perhaps she felt guilty over her carelessness last time, so now she is determined to find back the Canary for me.


Today I went to Petaling Street, the shop has a magpie baby for sale. Can't resist the temptation to own a song bird, so I bought one home. Still young and need to hand feed.

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Aha..my maid also fell in love with this Canary songbird.  Perhaps she felt guilty over her carelessness last time, so now she is determined to find back the Canary for me.
Today I went to Petaling Street, the shop has a magpie baby for sale.  Can't resist the temptation to own a song bird, so I bought one home.  Still young and need to hand feed.
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how much u bought? and how much did u buy the canary? what colour is your canary?
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how much u bought? and how much did u buy the canary? what colour is your canary?
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I bought the baby Magpie for Rm35. And my Canary is white in colour, I bought it for RM100. It's age is 2 years+.

The Magpie is young, the shop owner said still cannot differentiate the sex. Do you know how to differentiate the sex for Magpie?
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I bought the baby Magpie for Rm35.  And my Canary is white in colour, I bought it for RM100.  It's age is 2 years+.

The Magpie is young, the shop owner said still cannot differentiate the sex.  Do you know how to differentiate the sex for Magpie?
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u only can differentiate the sex when it grow abit old. since your is still baby, then u have to wait for 1 or 2 months, then only u can see. can u post some of the pic?
actually from the colour automatic u'll know either male or female.
the male colour is more shining(darker) then the female. the female doesn't sing well like male magpie, same thing goes to shama.
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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 13 2008, 10:37 PM)
juztiny where did you bought it from? im interested..i went to Kooi lim birdshop..(the one at brickfields) charges about rm150 a bird..i keep alot of budgies, cockatiels, and a FIDS is a sun conure..but never song bird before..thats y i tought of trying..im sure its alot of fun.. here is the pics of my sun conure..he is 5 months old..its still green.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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This morning 6am found out that the baby Magpie died already. Yesterday afternoon it was still active asking for food and trying to flap its wings. We fed it every time it awakes. Last night rain heavily, the weather was quite cold, so I covered the cage with cloth actually. Not sure is it because I didn't put it under the lamp to warm it, that is why it died? I don't think it died because lack of oxygen, I did leave a little gap for the air.

I went back to Wildlife Zoologic in Petaling Street at mid noon today and told the shop owner my baby died, and I want another Magpie, this time I just want an adult will do. She discounted for me (only cost Rm100 an adult bird). I choose a bird that already saw it sang inside the shop to make sure I didn't buy a mute bird back.

On the way back home I stopped by another petshop to buy the bird pellet, as I forgot to buy more packets from Wildlife, this shop keeper told me that my Magpie is female. He said usually the male head and legs are bigger, this one is not big. I don't know true or not, because my Magpie's head colour is shinny rich black colour, and it does sing. But I don't know how to differentiate whether it is a good singer or not. Well, will post up the picture once it is more settle down.

Came back home covered half of the cage with cloth in order to clam down the bird, and feed it mealworm. Once it had settled down and able to enjoy worms from my hand.

Azrada, are all babies Sun Conure when baby times are like green and yellow? Only turn to orange when grown up? Can Sun Conure be trained to talk as well?

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hey guys,for those who keep ur birds in the apartment,do u keep them indoor or outdoor?how about thier sh't and fallen fur?

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hey guys,for those who keep ur birds in the apartment,do u keep them indoor or outdoor?how about thier sh't and fallen fur?

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I lived in a landed property, but I did try to put my birds indoor for 2 months, thought that I could see my bird more often and interact with them, however realized that it is not a good idea at all, the dropping feathers and seeds pretty messy. Now I hang them on car porch area during day time, night time only bring them inside kitchen area.


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I keep mine all indoors..... but messy lah, need to sweep and change their paper daily.

Now is baby magpie season. I also had bad luck with the young ones.....bought 2 but died.... but they didn't died under my care coz before they reached my home, they were with other people.
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I keep mine all indoors..... but messy lah, need to sweep and change their paper daily.

Now is baby magpie season. I also had bad luck with the young ones.....bought 2 but died.... but they didn't died under my care coz before they reached my home, they were with other people.
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This morning I saw and heard my Magpie sing in respond to another wild Magpie around my housing area. Cool! I like its vocal! But the wild one can sing longer tune.


Hopefully when I get my tamed Cockatiel, it is not too young to handle. I'm still learning so not good in handling too young chick.
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thanks guys,i m thinking to keep Cockatiel or Budgerigar.i never keep bird before.but thinking to get one.u guys face any problem with wildbird?e.g parasite,or any disease?

thanks
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QUOTE(eddie88 @ Apr 14 2008, 11:17 AM)
thanks guys,i m thinking  to keep Cockatiel or Budgerigar.i never keep bird before.but thinking to get one.u guys face any problem with wildbird?e.g parasite,or any disease?

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I was once at your stage, never kept any bird before. I started off with Budgies (3 - 1 male 2 female), they are indeed cute and funny. But quite noisy, especially when they hear music sound. After they escaped away last 2 weeks ago, I started to try other bird breeds. Bought a Canary and then bought a pair of Merbok (Zebra Dove), and yesterday just add one Magpie Robin.

Today someone is going to buy my Merbok. Then I will have space to accommodate more birds collection. At most I will keep only 5-6 birds, they are:-

1 Canary
1 Magpie
1 Cockatiel (coming soon)
1 Shama (still searching)
2 Love Birds (not sure yet, may change my mind)


No need to worry of parasite if you keep your cage clean everyday. In fact having Magpie or Shama, your house would be insect free. Yesterday I caught quite a lot of flying ants to feed my Magpie.

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u really got a loyal maid. 6 houses ma shocking.gif , luckyly your canary is quite tamed otherwise it will fly into tree not house lo sweat.gif
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hi..can any1 help me out here...im desperately looking for an english budgie....do u know any local breeder...?I wud like to get a baby budgie if possible..please... sad.gif

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hi..can any1 help me out here...im desperately looking for an english budgie....do u know any local breeder...?I wud like to get a baby budgie if possible..please...  sad.gif
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May be Bohrlin still have tame budgie for sale.
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 13 2008, 12:29 AM)
I bought the baby Magpie for Rm35.  And my Canary is white in colour, I bought it for RM100.  It's age is 2 years+.

The Magpie is young, the shop owner said still cannot differentiate the sex.  Do you know how to differentiate the sex for Magpie?
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hi Justiny,i've been looking for a bird...i really wanted to get an english budgie,but dunno where to find a local breeder...do u happen to know?i want to get a tame one...


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May be Bohrlin still have tame budgie for sale.
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really?? how can i get in touch with Bohrlin?


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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 13 2008, 10:37 PM)
juztiny where did you bought it from? im interested..i went to Kooi lim birdshop..(the one at brickfields) charges about rm150 a bird..i keep alot of budgies, cockatiels, and a FIDS is a sun conure..but never song bird before..thats y i tought of trying..im sure its alot of fun.. here is the pics of my sun conure..he is 5 months old..its still green.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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hi azrada..u mention u keep budgies...do u train them to talk?whr did u buy the sun conure?is it ez to take care and can u train it to talk?im so desperate to own a bird...since u have lots of bird...do u breed them?


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How to clip the feathers? Cut it?After clip cant fly already?
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hi bohrlin...im sammy.I heard u breed budgies...izzit english or australlian budgies?do you sell them?im interested to get an english budgie...a tame one and maybe about 1mth old...do u hv any?please reply...maybe if can pls call me at my mobile 012-2714944


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hi Justiny,i've been looking for a bird...i really wanted to get an english budgie,but dunno where to find a local breeder...do u happen to know?i want to get a tame one...


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really?? how can i get in touch with Bohrlin?


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hi azrada..u mention u keep budgies...do u train them to talk?whr did u buy the sun conure?is it ez to take care and can u train it to talk?im so desperate to own a bird...since u have lots of bird...do u breed them?
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You can go to this forum http://pet-cockatiel.com/Dboard/index.php to look for a breeder. Or post a wanted list there, sure got people offer you.

Somebody wanted to offer me a "jadi" Shama with 7" tail at very reasonable price (below market price), because he (the owner) is not free to take care due to work commitment, he has 5 of them. I could only take 1 from him. Tomorrow night I will go and collect from him. He was shocked to learn that I am a female that like song birds like Shama, Canary and Magpie.

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 14 2008, 03:38 PM)
You can go to this forum http://pet-cockatiel.com/Dboard/index.php  to look for a breeder.  Or post a wanted list there, sure got people offer you.

Somebody wanted to offer me a "jadi" Shama  with 7" tail at very reasonable price (below market price), because he (the owner) is not free to take care due to work commitment, he has 5 of them.  I could only take 1 from him. Tomorrow night  I will go and collect from him.  He was shocked to learn that I am a female that like song birds like Shama, Canary and Magpie.
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Thnx for the info...will try to go to that website to look for a breeder..
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hi azrada..u mention u keep budgies...do u train them to talk?whr did u buy the sun conure?is it ez to take care and can u train it to talk?im so desperate to own a bird...since u have lots of bird...do u breed them?





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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 14 2008, 03:38 PM)
You can go to this forum http://pet-cockatiel.com/Dboard/index.php  to look for a breeder.  Or post a wanted list there, sure got people offer you.

Somebody wanted to offer me a "jadi" Shama  with 7" tail at very reasonable price (below market price), because he (the owner) is not free to take care due to work commitment, he has 5 of them.  I could only take 1 from him. Tomorrow night  I will go and collect from him.  He was shocked to learn that I am a female that like song birds like Shama, Canary and Magpie.
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i did surprised too, when u mention u r miss not mr shocking.gif hehehehe
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hi, i only breed cockatiel as a hobby..but now is abit slow la..i'll post it up here if theres any stock..yeap..juztiny is right..just login into our forum..www.birdforum.com.my .my nick is azrul..(used to be freehander, until the forum crashes..haihs..) english budgies is hard to get a tame and young ones..it is better to start with a young one if u cant get a handfeed(tame) ones..i bought my conure from a fren in the MBF(malaysian bird forum) but i can tell you where to get english budgies and maybe i can help you choose a young one...or you can go to the shop and tell them that u want a young one..(but i dont recommend if u ask them, cos they shop ppl only want to make money..i pernah kena) mad.gif  do PM me if you need help..good luck in finding a right bird for you.. rclxms.gif  biggrin.gif
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You must teach me how you handfeed your cockatiels.... Do you?

I got a normal grey pair... quite useless in breeding coz they never feed their young properly, 3 times I tried and 3 times ended up with dying chicks. One I handfed but my homemade formula wasn't right.


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i did surprised too, when u mention u r miss not mr shocking.gif hehehehe
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Well, I was brought up very differently from young, my father used to catch insects like grasshopper, beetle, spider, cricket for me to keep as pet.

So I have no problem in handling insects and worms. I guess most girls didn't keep song bird as pet, not because they don't like, probably it is because they could not overcome the fear in handling insects and worms which is a must for feeding most song birds like Sharma and Magpie.

Here are my new Magpie pictures.

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 14 2008, 11:48 PM)
Well, I was brought up very differently from young, my father used to catch insects like grasshopper, beetle, spider, cricket for me to keep as pet.

So I have no problem in handling insects and worms.  I guess most girls didn't keep song bird as pet, not because they don't like, probably it is because they could not overcome the fear in handling  insects and worms which is a must for feeding most song birds like Sharma and Magpie.

Here are my new Magpie pictures.
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welldone juztiny rclxms.gif . very nice magpie. but won't you like to give him a proper cage( bamboo magpie cage )? is around rm 60 to rm75 only.
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ Apr 15 2008, 03:33 AM)
welldone juztiny  rclxms.gif . very nice magpie. but won't you like to give him a proper cage( bamboo magpie cage )? is around rm 60 to rm75 only.
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Definitely I want to give him a proper cage, but don't want to rush for it first, as now my house is shortage of storage space to keep unused cage.
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You must teach me how you handfeed your cockatiels.... Do you?

I got a normal grey pair... quite useless in breeding coz they never feed their young properly, 3 times I tried and 3 times ended up with dying chicks. One I handfed but my homemade formula wasn't right.


yeah sure..what do you use for ur handfeeding formula crazymouse?

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Definitely I want to give him a proper cage, but don't want to rush for it first, as now my house is shortage of storage space to keep unused cage.


yeah, very nice bird rclxms.gif ..can wait to get mine..


below are some pics of my male budgie..just wanted to share.. biggrin.gif




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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 15 2008, 10:35 AM)
yeah sure..what do you use for ur handfeeding formula crazymouse?
yeah, very nice bird  rclxms.gif ..can wait to get mine..
below are some pics of my male budgie..just wanted to share.. biggrin.gif
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This picture reminds me of Tom the cat and Tweetie bird cartoon.

Wow, you budgie is not afraid of the cat, and your cat won't attack the bird?
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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 15 2008, 10:35 AM)
yeah sure..what do you use for ur handfeeding formula crazymouse?
yeah, very nice bird  rclxms.gif ..can wait to get mine..
below are some pics of my male budgie..just wanted to share.. biggrin.gif
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Erm.... I used some egg powder I got from Australia, mixed with water, jar babyfood and crushed pellets from my cockatiel mix. It was a desperate attempt to save a chick, which I raised till 2 weeks old... then I had to go away for a day so my bro help me jaga but it died pulak... really sad.

Now my female keeps popping eggs..... one egg every week! But there is no matings.... and I got no nest box so I have no idea why she keeps laying eggs.

I also got a pied white face female, thinking of breeding but then I scared tak jadi again....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 15 2008, 11:27 AM)
Erm.... I used some egg powder I got from Australia, mixed with water, jar babyfood and crushed pellets from my cockatiel mix. It was a desperate attempt to save a chick, which I raised till 2 weeks old... then I had to go away for a day so my bro help me jaga but it died pulak... really sad.

Now my female keeps popping eggs..... one egg every week! But there is no matings.... and I got no nest box so I have no idea why she keeps laying eggs.

I also got a pied white face female, thinking of breeding but then I scared tak jadi again....
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okay, what i use is..i'll go Tesco and get a baby food called hartz baby food..theres afew variety of it..there's (red box labeling - plain rice, there's blue box labeling - rice and banana, and another one is yellow..which i cant remember the flavour..) the cost of each box in tesco is very cheap compared to other places..its only below rm 5 in tesco..the reason im using this "hartz" brand is becos, that is the only brand i find that is WITHOUT ANY MILK MIXTURE in it.. (birds cant digest well to milk and chocolate..so they'll die) ..you get that, and a bottle of "gerber" baby food..i usually get apple flavour..then mix them together..not to cair and not to pekat.. just nice as if u want to feed a baby..and also..the MOST IMPORTANT is NOT TOO HOT..test it on ur hand 1st..if its too hot, then ur chick will get "crop Burn" (where its crop will burn resulting from too hot food) and u might want to get a syringe(WITH OUT NEDDLE) the ones usually parents gives their small children syrup medicine..they are a few sizes..go to any pharmacy..it ranges from afew cents to a few ringgit..that doesnt matter..u get all the stuff above..then u're are ready. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

Pied whiteface? wow thumbup.gif drool.gif rclxms.gif she's a beauty..

one question..do you remove the egg she pops? well, if you do this..u'll encourage her to pop more eggs..and ending up getting "egg Binding" egg bingding is a penyakit where the female lay too many eggs after one breeding season after another..and ending up lacks of calcium..where the egg in her tummy is too soft to even pass out..do provide them with alot of cuttlebone (tulang sotong) for calcium..(most bird shop sells them..tell me if u cant find them) when ur female lays eggs without mating is normal..every female will eventually lays eggs when she is mature.. just dont remove the eggs that she lays, eventually she''ll get bored and leave them..then only u remove them..

ps:go to www.birdforum.com.my theres alot things u could learn there.. just wanted to share.. and finally GOODLUCK! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 15 2008, 10:45 AM)
This picture reminds me of Tom the cat and Tweetie bird cartoon.

Wow, you budgie is not afraid of the cat, and your cat won't attack the bird?
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tongue.gif tongue.gif nope..my budgie is very garang..when the cat tries to get near him..he'll scream and chase the cat off..i have 5 cats at home..all of them is affraid of my birds..the other day my conure bit my cats nose.. rclxm9.gif and the cats ran off..

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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 15 2008, 11:55 AM)

tongue.gif  tongue.gif  nope..my budgie is very garang..when the cat tries to get near him..he'll scream and chase the cat off..i have 5 cats at home..all of them is affraid of my birds..the other day my conure bit my cats nose.. rclxm9.gif  and the cats ran off..
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Wow, your birds are really garang! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 14 2008, 10:16 PM)
hi, i only breed cockatiel as a hobby..but now is abit slow la..i'll post it up here if theres any stock..yeap..juztiny is right..just login into our forum..www.birdforum.com.my .my nick is azrul..(used to be freehander, until the forum crashes..haihs..) english budgies is hard to get a tame and young ones..it is better to start with a young one if u cant get a handfeed(tame) ones..i bought my conure from a fren in the MBF(malaysian bird forum) but i can tell you where to get english budgies and maybe i can help you choose a young one...or you can go to the shop and tell them that u want a young one..(but i dont recommend if u ask them, cos they shop ppl only want to make money..i pernah kena) mad.gif  do PM me if you need help..good luck in finding a right bird for you.. rclxms.gif  biggrin.gif
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hi....thnx for the info..yeah..i wud appreciate it very much if u cud help me get a young english budgie..btw,just curious...can a conure talk?please tell me when we can go hunt for my english budgie..oh ya...btw...do you know around how much does it cost?Looking forward to hearing from you thumbup.gif
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I heard if you pair 1 male and 1 female Budgerigar together, if 1 of them die, the second 1 will die also.

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I heard if you pair 1 male and 1 female Budgerigar together, if 1 of them die, the second 1 will die also.
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Well..I heard of this from a friend of mine too, she has a pair of love bird. One died, eventually the other one refused to eat until died too. But I don't know the Budgies would or not. I also have heard from the Discovery Channel "amazing moment" that one Cockatoo owner died, and her birds also commit suicide. However my friend's father Cockatoo didn't commit suicide when her father passed away. Still living with the family, but not much attention given. Her Cockatoo is 60 years old. May be it depends on the personality of the birds too. Some are more emotional than the other.

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I heard if you pair 1 male and 1 female Budgerigar together, if 1 of them die, the second 1 will die also.
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not really though..actually its all myth..it actually depending on individual bird it self..i heard of it too..but somehow this is hard to say..cos i used to have a bonded budgie..when the female died..the male is stil okay..the yellow one in the pic..thats when i started to tame him..

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hi....thnx for the info..yeah..i wud appreciate it very much if u cud help me get a young english budgie..btw,just curious...can a conure talk?please tell me when we can go hunt for my english budgie..oh ya...btw...do you know around how much does it cost?Looking forward to hearing from you


conure can talk..but they are not known for talking..they are very very playfull..yeah sure..no problems..where do u live? im not sure about how much are they..but all i know they'll cost you above rm100 each.make sure u make some research about eng budgie too..

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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 15 2008, 01:14 PM)
not really though..actually its all myth..it actually depending on individual bird it self..i heard of it too..but somehow this is hard to say..cos i used to have a bonded budgie..when the female died..the male is stil okay..the yellow one in the pic..thats when i started to tame him..
conure can talk..but they are not known for talking..they are very  very playfull..yeah sure..no problems..where do u live? im not sure about how much are they..but all i know they'll cost you above rm100 each.make sure u make some research about eng budgie too..
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azrul..after lookin at the pics of yr sun conure,i feel like havin that pulak,.. smile.gif
Rm100 is ok..i just want 1 bird...i live at bukit tunku...so how's the plan..?
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azrul..after lookin at the pics of yr sun conure,i feel like havin that pulak,..  smile.gif
Rm100 is ok..i just want 1 bird...i live at bukit tunku...so how's the plan..?
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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 15 2008, 02:06 PM)
lol... i bought my conure from a fren..at rm 500.anytime..just PM me ur Hp number aight..its rm100 and above.im not sure.
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YAY!! my hp is 012-2714944 rclxms.gif u know wht..i just browse thru the net about sun conure...im impressed...i wish i can own it 1 day..maybe as a beginner,getting a budgie is easier to take care..is it true?or it does not matter if u're a beginner or not...
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Here comes my new addition to the family, Sharma.




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QUOTE(sammy1 @ Apr 15 2008, 03:43 PM)
YAY!! my hp is 012-2714944  rclxms.gif u know wht..i just browse thru the net about sun conure...im impressed...i wish i can own it 1 day..maybe as a beginner,getting a budgie is easier to take care..is it true?or it does not matter if u're a beginner or not...
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yeap..actually, to me it does not matter is this ur 1st time or not..maybe thru experience wise..cos u might not know what to do if the bird is sick and all..my 1st bird is actually a cockatiel intead of a budgie..sammy why dont u get a cockatiel? i can say its the most friendly bird to me..in my experience..ive never fail to tame a cockatiel before..u could start on a young one too..


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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 15 2008, 11:17 PM)
yeap..actually, to me it does not matter is this ur 1st time or not..maybe thru experience wise..cos u might not know what to do if the bird is sick and all..my 1st bird is actually a cockatiel intead of a budgie..sammy why dont u get a cockatiel? i can say its the most friendly bird to me..in my experience..ive never fail to tame a cockatiel before..u could start on a young one too..


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waa...juztiny u really make me geram la.. drool.gif how much u bought it for? now im considering of getting a mata putih, canary, shama(but i dont know where to get) or a magpie..what do you think?
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Haha...I got it for RM300 inclusive of 20" cage. I think quite worth it. Well..I would like to have all the above you mentioned, now also looking for a mata puteh, someone from the bird forum is helping me to find one. Mata puteh is very rare these days, not available in petshop. Mann_kl's has a contact to get Sharma for you if you really wanted.

Actually...after I own a Magpie, Magpie's song variety is much more interesting than my German Roller Canary. Hmm....can't wait to hear this Sharma sing, whether would it be better than my Magpie or not.

I also have ordered a tamed baby Cockatiel. Will be able to collect it by end of the month. So far, my hubby still don't know I spent so much money on birds recently. Trying to hide my birds from him. sweat.gif
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I also have ordered a tamed baby Cockatiel. Will be able to collect it by end of the month. So far, my hubby still don't know I spent so much money on birds recently. Trying to hide my birds from him. 





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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 16 2008, 10:06 AM)
lol... tongue.gif  tongue.gif  well actually same goes to me..when i bought my conure..my dad asked me how i bought it for.and i said cheap only..rm100.. blush.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  if i said rm500..he'll flipped!  rclxub.gif and hey, im sorry about the tame cockatiel u ask me the other day..my liltte brother decided not to sell it..at 1st he wanted to sell it..but i pursue him not to sell it..may i know from who did u order it from?
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I ordered through David who lived in Damansara Jaya. He keeps Albino Cockatiel too.


This morning when my Magpie sing, there are 2 wild Magpies came to my house wanted to attack my Magpie. Luckily my dogs protect my Magpie, the wild Magpies don't have chance to get near it.

My maid is trying to set up a trap to catch the wild Magpies for me. Hopefully she could succeed, then I will get free additional Magpie. rclxms.gif

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I ordered through David who lived in Damansara Jaya. He keeps Albino Cockatiel too.


oh ya david..i bought from him before..he pakai specs wan...


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My maid is trying to set up a trap to catch the wild Magpies for me. Hopefully she could succeed, then I will get free additional Magpie


lol..i had the same idea..but i dont have the trap..maybe i shud ask the ppl in birdforum..cos theres alot in subang..i mean my place..
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 15 2008, 11:43 PM)
Haha...I got it for RM300 inclusive of 20" cage.  I think quite worth it.  Well..I would like to have all the above you mentioned, now also looking for a mata puteh,  someone from the bird forum is helping me to find one.  Mata puteh is very rare these days, not available in petshop.  Mann_kl's has a contact to get Sharma for you if you really wanted.

Actually...after I own a Magpie, Magpie's song variety is much more interesting than my German Roller Canary.  Hmm....can't wait to hear this Sharma sing, whether would it be better than my Magpie or not. 

I also have ordered a tamed baby Cockatiel.  Will be able to collect it by end of the month.  So far, my hubby still don't know I spent so much money on birds recently.  Trying to hide my birds from him. sweat.gif
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Azrul..actually this is not my 1st time owning a bird...i used to own a cockatiel...i got it from my friend.I got it from about 3weeks old...i hand-fed the birdie..Then one day my son took it out of the cage to play with it...put him on the shoulder,suddenly it flew away and never came back....soo sadd cry.gif So,i dont think i wanna get another cockatiel..bad memories.So,when can ww go and look for the Budgie?
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I'm a new bird owner... smile.gif

erm.... actually i rescued a pigeon with a broken wing who got snapped by my dog... unfortunately she didn't die, n i feels so guilty, therefore i took her in.... blush.gif

i've try to find a vet who will attend to her, but never found one who accept bird as their client.. icon_question.gif

now she had already staying with me for 1 month and she still can't fly shakehead.gif

i wonder how long will a pigeon live...

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Hi All Bird Enthusiast , this is my 1st reply in this forum after few months here. I always read through your posting but never leave any message here.

Nice to meet all of you here.


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Hi All Bird Enthusiast , this is my 1st reply in this forum after few months here. I always read through your posting but never leave any message here.

Nice to meet all of you here.


hey! welcome!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif hope you'll have a good stay here..

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I'm a new bird owner... 

erm.... actually i rescued a pigeon with a broken wing who got snapped by my dog... unfortunately she didn't die, n i feels so guilty, therefore i took her in.... 

i've try to find a vet who will attend to her, but never found one who accept bird as their client.. 

now she had already staying with me for 1 month and she still can't fly 

i wonder how long will a pigeon live...


i know a avian doctor in UPM, serdang..if u happen to go there..go to the vet clinic and ask for dr.jalilah..maybe she can help u out..pigeon can be tame if there r properly kept..about how long they can live..im not sure..why dont u google it?
anyways, goodluck.. biggrin.gif rclxm9.gif

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Azrul..actually this is not my 1st time owning a bird...i used to own a cockatiel...i got it from my friend.I got it from about 3weeks old...i hand-fed the birdie..Then one day my son took it out of the cage to play with it...put him on the shoulder,suddenly it flew away and never came back....soo sadd  So,i dont think i wanna get another cockatiel..bad memories.So,when can ww go and look for the Budgie?


oic...u didnt clip it wings? im free on friday..is it okay? u can contact me at

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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 16 2008, 12:50 PM)
i know a avian doctor in UPM, serdang..if u happen to go there..go to the vet clinic and ask for dr.jalilah..maybe she can help u out..pigeon can be tame if there r properly kept..about how long they can live..im not sure..why dont u google it?
anyways, goodluck.. biggrin.gif  rclxm9.gif
actually someone did recommend me to UPM, but is really far and my parent will say they will be crazy to drive me all the way there...

i think pigeon is a tame bird, eventhough she pecks at me, but is pretty harmless

n i'm try to crate train her.. laugh.gif

btw, can they hear my words? coz i can't help but keep talking to her... i hope i'm not talking to the air

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Apr 16 2008, 01:03 PM)
actually someone did recommend me to UPM, but is really far and my parent will say they will be crazy to drive me all the way there...

i think pigeon is a tame bird, eventhough she pecks at me, but is pretty harmless

n i'm try to crate train her.. laugh.gif

btw, can they hear my words? coz i can't help but keep talking to her... i hope i'm not talking to the air
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ofcause she can hear you..dont worry..i talk to my birdies too.. blush.gif thumbup.gif icon_rolleyes.gif too far? ic..
i remember when i got my 1st cockatiel..during that time i only have a scooter to go around..suddenly when one of my cockatiel fall sick..i brought her all the way to UPM with my scooter! from subang jaya..huhu..that was a crazy ride.. n thank god, i mange to save her..thanks to my scooter.. tongue.gif maybe you could google on how to treat a broken wing.. also maybe u can try www.birdboard.com

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What kind of cage is suitable for Cockatiel? I saw many people keep their Cockatoos leg tied on to the wood, and no need cage. Does Cockatiel also need to do that?
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What kind of cage is suitable for Cockatiel?  I saw many people keep their Cockatoos leg tied on to the wood, and no need cage.  Does Cockatiel also need to do that?
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juztiny..a big no no for tying them on the t-stand..my point of view..tying ur bird to the t stand only "menyeksa" or "mendera" the bird..they cant even hardly move freely..i advice you to get cage..square kind of cage.. you can go to pet safari in ikano power centre to get one..its only rm60 plus..

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QUOTE(azrada @ Apr 16 2008, 12:50 PM)
hey! welcome!! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  hope you'll have a good stay here..
i know a avian doctor in UPM, serdang..if u happen to go there..go to the vet clinic and ask for dr.jalilah..maybe she can help u out..pigeon can be tame if there r properly kept..about how long they can live..im not sure..why dont u google it?
anyways, goodluck.. biggrin.gif  rclxm9.gif
oic...u didnt clip it wings? im free on friday..is it okay? u can contact me at 0173376712(azrul)
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yeah..im free this friday too...im off...nanti i'll sms u and check the plan ok...have you called the breeder or yr contact? got young budgie or not?will chat thru sms later...thnx rclxm9.gif
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juztiny..a big no no for tying them on the t-stand..my point of view..tying ur bird to the t stand only "menyeksa" or "mendera" the bird..they cant even hardly move freely..i advice you to get cage..square kind of cage.. you can go to pet safari in ikano power centre to get one..its only rm60 plus..
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Thanks for the advice. Ya...I have 2 cages (around 3'W x 1.5' Dx 1.5'H) available which are suitable for keeping love birds or finches kind. So wondering is it suitable? Is there any specific size needed for Cockatiel? I read from bird forum, some people put Canary together with Cockatiel in a big cage, I am considering this.
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Hi Justiny

How is your shama at your house?? Does he start sing or create any "tak-tak" sound??

Basically most of the people prefer to keep the Cockatiel inside the steel cage and seldom tie them. Pls dont keep them inside the bamboo cage or else your bamboo cage will damage by them. hehe...


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Thanks for the advice.  Ya...I have 2  cages (around 3'W x 1.5' Dx 1.5'H) available which are suitable for keeping love birds or finches kind.  So wondering is it suitable?  Is there any specific size needed for Cockatiel?  I read from bird forum, some people put Canary together with Cockatiel in a big cage, I am considering this.
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i once kept my budgie together with my tiel..i think it shud be alright..all i know, lovebirds are the ones suka kacau other bird..i think the cage u have shud be alright....about the big cage..y dont u do a small aviary for ur birds? bird the one u getting from david is a tame one right?

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Basically most of the people prefer to keep the Cockatiel inside the steel cage and seldom tie them. Pls dont keep them inside the bamboo cage or else your bamboo cage will damage by them. hehe...



yeap this true..i dulu pernah keep my tiel in a bamboo cage..but then the tiel gigit one of the bamboo cage bar until it almost broke....lol.


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yeah..im free this friday too...im off...nanti i'll sms u and check the plan ok...have you called the breeder or yr contact? got young budgie or not?will chat thru sms later...thnx  rclxm9.gif
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okay no problem..no la i did not..we just go there and see.if got then u buy k..


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Hi Justiny

How is your shama at your house?? Does he start sing or create any "tak-tak" sound??

Basically most of the people prefer to keep the Cockatiel inside the steel cage and seldom tie them. Pls dont keep them inside the bamboo cage or else your bamboo cage will damage by them. hehe...
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No sound yet, very quiet not even 'tak-tak" sound. I think he is very scared inside the cage. Fed him worms only eat very little like 5 only.

This morning I found out one of his eye cannot open, don't know why. Then I catch him and look closer and use my finger massage his eyelid, and then can open. What's wrong?


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My maid is trying to set up a trap to catch the wild Magpies for me.  Hopefully she could succeed, then I will get free additional Magpie. rclxms.gif
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Yes! My maid successfully caught one of the wild Magpie today. Our opposite neighbour asking her to give it to them. She told them that it was our pet bird that escaped out, she is catching it back to the cage. Haha...she is smarter than I thought.

This wild Magpie is easy to care than I thought, he could eat the pellet by itself. I was worried that he doesn't know how to eat pellet and just want to eat worms only.

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Wah, you all talk about song birds... make me itch to get one magpie. My tiel only sings to his mates.... not to me. My Mynah talks crap, coughs and sneezes when I sneeze and makes annoying sounds. Only love the zebra dove's calm cooing.... My brother's lovebirds hurt my ears when they become vocal haahhah.
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Wah, you all talk about song birds... make me itch to get one magpie. My tiel only sings to his mates.... not to me. My Mynah talks crap, coughs and sneezes when I sneeze and makes annoying sounds. Only love the zebra dove's calm cooing.... My brother's lovebirds hurt my ears when they become vocal haahhah.
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Haha..when I get my Cockatiel, then I will talk more on Cockatiel with you lor...

Magpie is very melodious, especially when they respond to the wild Magpie sing. Nice! Well...I have yet to hear my Sharma sing, just wondering how good would he be.
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Wah, you all talk about song birds... make me itch to get one magpie. My tiel only sings to his mates.... not to me. My Mynah talks crap, coughs and sneezes when I sneeze and makes annoying sounds. Only love the zebra dove's calm cooing.... My brother's lovebirds hurt my ears when they become vocal haahhah.


lol... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif yeah i gave away my love birds bcos they are too noisy..even at night! rclxub.gif

i getting the trap from a friend on sunday..lets try..lol... rclxm9.gif

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Hi Justiny

Of course shama sound is much more nicer than magpie sound!!! Sometimes Magpie sound is too sharp...
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Here comes my new addition to the family, Sharma.
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finally..... rclxms.gif congratulation!!!!!!
very nice icon_rolleyes.gif very tamed thumbup.gif


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Hi All Bird Enthusiast , this is my 1st reply in this forum after few months here. I always read through your posting but never leave any message here.

Nice to meet all of you here.
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hi meng, finally i can chat with u in this forum.

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Hi Bro Raymond,

Nice to meet u here!!! How is your birds?? hehe...
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The wild magpie's partner keep coming back to my house and look for him. I feel bad in capturing this wild magpie, unfortunately I couldn't set him free, because my maid already clipped off his wings, he couldn't fly high anymore, so if I set him free, he would be easily caught by a cat/crow or somebody else who doesn't know how to care for a magpie and may cause him death.

This wild magpie is slimmer than my own magpie. But very good singer, can sing very lengthy sound. Come to think of it, if I don't capture him, he would attack my own magpie and cause my magpie death too. Now I am saving them both, but sorry for the female magpie, she has to find another spouse.


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Hi Justiny

Of course shama sound is much more nicer than magpie sound!!! Sometimes Magpie sound is too sharp...
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My Sharma still not willing to take bath even I gave him the water bowl. All my birds did bath this morning except him. But at least he is willing to eat from my hand feed worms now, and can eat more than 5 worms.

He doesn't seem cheerful yet.

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Nice to meet u here!!! How is your birds?? hehe...
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all are fine. biggrin.gif
now my jambul and my merbah kampung compete singing.
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Hey Bro Raymond,

Wah, your jambul so rajin singing at home already?? Cannot wait to bring my jambul go to your house and chai... haha...
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all are fine. biggrin.gif
now my jambul and my merbah kampung compete singing.
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Hey, you wanted to know what kinda bird you had rite? That brown one your friend caught?

I found the species.

Called Little Cuckoo-Dove Macropygia ruficeps malayana

Found in Malaysia, especially Pahang, Fraser's Hill

http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?a...ult&Bird_ID=675
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Now I have put my Magpie birds on proper one bamboo cage each. More room for them. They (the wild and my own tamed Magpie) seem to be able to get along well. Seen them like talking to each other. One sings the other will follow. These two Magpies very easy to care, they adjusted to my place very fast. Enjoy their bath and their new cage.

However my Sharma still not singing yet. It seems to be more sensitive and reserved. Even though my two Magpies and Canary very hard working singing and making noise. This Sharma is still very cool sitting in its own cage observing them from a far distance.
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Emm... This birdie forum seem like very "quiet"...

Lets share one of my shama here with yours... His name is called "8-chai" because his tail length is 8inch... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ... (I got another "7-chai" at home thumbup.gif thumbup.gif )

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Here is the video clip of my 2 magpies singing at home today.

http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mbm14/J...pr152008010.flv


Today I saw a bird looks like a Bulbul flew near my Magpie, it is brownish in colour and as big size as Magpie, its head like normal Bulbul with a crown, the body colour is not black or grey, but brown and little bit white with black.

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Juztiny, was wondering how many pets u have..

can see you like in every thread.. huh..

must have like a mini zoo at home..
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 19 2008, 03:26 AM)
Hey, you wanted to know what kinda bird you had rite? That brown one your friend caught?

I found the species.

Called Little Cuckoo-Dove Macropygia ruficeps malayana

Found in Malaysia, especially Pahang, Fraser's Hill

http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?a...ult&Bird_ID=675
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Juztiny, was wondering how many pets u have..

can see you like in every thread.. huh..

must have like a mini zoo at home..
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Yeah..I have 25 hamsters, 7 GPs, 5 birds and 5 dogs at home. Kind of like a mini zoo.
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you got so much time to look after them....so nice have so many pet,haha
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Hello,
Anyone have Merbah Jambul?
I have 2
Keep them about 3 years ago
The old bird was terlepas or mati kena hurung semut
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keeping so many pets requires much time and of course effort..

salute juztiny!
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keeping so many pets requires much time and of course effort..

salute juztiny!
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Hahaha...thank God I have a flexible job and give me a good income and able to work from home as and when required. Although I have a maid at home, cannot trust her, she is not a true animal lover. She is pretty lazy, I have to remind her to change my pets' drinking water every day.

My nextdoor neighbour hates me now, because my house is like a zoo. I became her eye sore because I rare so many animals.
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Hello,
Anyone have Merbah Jambul?
I have 2
Keep them about 3 years ago
The old bird was terlepas or mati kena hurung semut
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Hi bro adioz88

I have keep a Merbah Jambul now, so where do u from?? May be we can go to Cheras chai bird one day if u are from Selangor area... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Hi bro adioz88

I have keep a Merbah Jambul now, so where do u from?? May be we can go to Cheras chai bird one day if u are from Selangor area...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Im from Alor Setar brows.gif
In 2002, have 2 merbah jambul and one peking robin when live at Butterworth
2003, 1 merbah jambul and one murai cacing
2004- have 2 merbah jambul and 4 lover birds but one merbah jambul was stolen by penagih,he climp up my house gate

2005 until now 2 merbah jambull..
last month, that bird was escaped
lega when my father catch it back

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Im from Alor Setar  brows.gif
In 2002, have 2 merbah jambul and one peking robin when live at Butterworth
2003, 1 merbah jambul and one murai cacing
2004- have 2 merbah jambul and 4 lover birds but one merbah jambul was stolen by penagih,he climp up my house gate

2005 until now 2 merbah jambull..
last month, that bird was escaped
lega when my father catch it back
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Hi bro,

Wah... U are from Northern area!!! shocking.gif shocking.gif so we are not able to chai bird liao lah... doh.gif doh.gif hehe...


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Ya...from north side
BTW, my resident area near to many birds habitat
like merbah jambul, murai batu, murai cacing and many more..

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Ya...from north side
BTW, my resident area near to many birds habitat
like merbah jambul, murai batu, murai cacing and many more..
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What is Murai Cacing? Same as Murai Kampung? If not, any picture to show? Just curious.
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[quote=Juztiny,Apr 22 2008, 08:25 PM]What is Murai Cacing?  Same as Murai Kampung?  If not, any picture to show?  Just curious.
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murai cacing is magpie, some call murai kampung too. biggrin.gif


Added on April 23, 2008, 12:47 amMy nextdoor neighbour hates me now, because my house is like a zoo. I became her eye sore because I rare so many animals.
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becareful with them brows.gif . i'm afraid one day they will report to Perhilitan about your shama..... sad.gif
try to be friendly. people always like that, can't see others senang.
luckyly my neighbours are good. laugh.gif they know i like flora n fauna.

tell u what, my diamond dove lays an egg today, i'm so happy. rclxm9.gif can't wait to see more eggs in the next few days........

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Wow..you have all sorts of birds.

Actually I search thru the bird forum and found this bird "San Hu" - Black Throated Laughing Thrush very nice. I want to own one in future. Just wonder is it rare to find it in Malaysia?

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Wow..you have all sorts of birds.

Actually I search thru the bird forum and found this bird "San Hu" - Black Throated Laughing Thrush very nice.  I want to own one in future. Just wonder is it rare to find it in Malaysia?
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i saw it once. it's around rm 600 plus.
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i saw it once. it's around rm 600 plus.
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Wow..so expensive one ah??? This is not a local Malaysia breed bird, right? My maid said her kampung has a lot. She is from Timur Timur of Indonesia, quite near northern Australia.

This bird can make many sound, very interesting.

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Not really so expensive la bro... But nowadays seldom see San Hu available in KL bird shop, may be can try to search at other outstation bird shop...


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Murai cacing, just like MannKL picture at avatar
Murai Gila also a family of murai
hehe

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Murai cacing, just like MannKL picture at avatar
Murai Gila also a family of murai
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Macam MannKL picture on avatar is Murai Batu.

Today I just bought a tamed Cockatiel. Quite disappointed actually, I thought it is a Lunito, because I told the seller I want a Lutino, and apparently there is miscommunication, it turned out to be a normal grey. But it is really tamed, and it is not that ugly looking after all, so I bought it. Because I promised my son already, doesn't want to disappoint him if I didn't buy one.


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Macam MannKL picture on avatar is Murai Batu. 

Today I just bought a tamed Cockatiel.  Quite disappointed actually, I thought it is a Lunito, because I told the seller I want a Lutino, and apparently there is miscommunication, it turned out to be a normal grey.  But it is really tamed, and it is not that ugly looking after all, so I bought it. Because I promised my son already, doesn't want to disappoint him if I didn't buy one.
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not so bad. so how's your shama? does it start to sing? found any San Hu so far?
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not so bad. so how's your shama? does it start to sing? found any San Hu so far?
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My sharma not yet sing, I think he is going to molt, his fur not neat looking lately. May be that's why he didn't sing.

Didn't really search for a San Hu actually, because still don't know much about its habitat. No hurry to get one yet, my house is fulled now. Wait till I moved to a new house this year end, then only will add more birds collection.
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Ah, Juztiny, you bought a cockatiel already? The same breeder you told me ah?

Looks like a female to me. Not afraid of you?

I just checked my cockatiel's 2 eggs,.... 1 is fertile and another is not. I'm pretty worried now since there is no nest box coz once I put a nest box, it freaked my female out. So she is just sitting on her eggs in her bare cage. Honestly, all this is not planned since my female lays eggs like a chicken.

I'm still looking for a tame male cockatiel....
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Ah, Juztiny, you bought a cockatiel already? The same breeder you told me ah?

Looks like a female to me. Not afraid of you?

I just checked my cockatiel's 2 eggs,.... 1 is fertile and another is not. I'm pretty worried now since there is no nest box coz once I put a nest box, it freaked my female out. So she is just sitting on her eggs in her bare cage. Honestly, all this is not planned since my female lays eggs like a chicken.

I'm still looking for a tame male cockatiel....
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So you think it is a female?? The seller said is male, but some also said is female. Anyway doesn't matter lah, we get to interact (play) with it and I bought it below RM200. I still want to look for a tame Lutino. blush.gif
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 26 2008, 01:15 AM)
So you think it is a female??  The seller said is male, but some also said is female.  Anyway doesn't matter lah, we get to interact (play) with it and I bought it below RM200.  I still want to look for a tame Lutino.  blush.gif
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My first tiel was a lutino, I was so proud of him coz I tamed him from an adult and it took me 2 years..... sad that his 3rd year ended by getting killed by a rat. I still have a soft spot for lutinos.

I was at Petaling Street, I think I saw a young pearl but of course not tame.

To know if it is female or not, look at the tail. Can you see bar patterns that look like stripes? Normally females have these stripes. Also their cheek patch is pale. Males have bright reddish orange.
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My first tiel was a lutino, I was so proud of him coz I tamed him from an adult and it took me 2 years..... sad that his 3rd year ended by getting killed by a rat. I still have a soft spot for lutinos.

I was at Petaling Street, I think I saw a young pearl but of course not tame.

To know if it is female or not, look at the tail. Can you see bar patterns that look like stripes? Normally females have these stripes. Also their cheek patch is pale. Males have bright reddish orange.
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But I read from another website says young or immature male will also show like female stripe, have to wait till its first molt to determine. This teil is 5 months old, yet to have its first molt.

How come a rat can kill a cockatiel? You cockatiel is not inside a cage at night? My cocker spaniels see the birds, will go crazy over the birds. I have to be very careful with them. I need to hold the bird on one hand, and another hand hold a cane. My dogs are scared of the cane.

How to take care of a Cockatiel? Does it need to bath every morning and need morning sun as well? How come my Cocktatiel doesn't know how to eat sunflower seed?


Added on April 26, 2008, 5:12 pmToday I went to Macaw Pet Trading in the Tasik Selatan, saw a 3 tamed Cockatiel for sale, (2 Lutino and 1 Pied/Pearl). Very expensive the Lutino is selling for RM300 each, and the condition of the bird not very healthy looking and not as tame as compared to the one I bought yesterday. So I didn't buy from there.

In fact many birds species in there. And quite surprise to see so many young ferret for sale there too. But the condition of the ferret very kesian, crowded in the tank.

I saw 2 San Hu for sale, but no sound one. So didn't dared to buy, quite costly RM250 each.

Anyone have any idea in keeping Java sparrow? Can Java sparrow share the same cage with Gouldian finches? I like both colourful looks, am thinking to keep a few of them in future.

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aw finally found a forum for birds.

nice tail. look like a male to me from the picture.

i wish i can keep a tail. too much bird at home.

info on my pets.

i got a pair of tame breeding love birds, keep on making love, laying eggs.
9batch of egg. only 2 birds is out. trial n error i guess.

the baby r tame as well.

2 tame male eng buggies.

lookin for tame eng budgies for mate. anyone wanna mate?

cheers!
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aw finally found a forum for birds.

nice tail. look like a male to me from the picture.

i wish i can keep a tail. too much bird at home.

info on my pets.

i got a pair of tame breeding love birds, keep on making love, laying eggs.
9batch of egg. only 2 birds is out. trial n error i guess.

the baby r tame as well.

2 tame male eng buggies.

lookin for tame eng budgies for mate. anyone wanna mate?

cheers!
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Want to sell your tame love bird? I'm looking for one too, but I like rich colour one.
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Want to sell your tame love bird?  I'm looking for one too, but I like rich colour one.
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hmmm... well lovebird is the the same colour like the mom, red headed.
another 1 is mutated. the mutated 1 a bit handicap.
this round gonna keep it, if got new round will sell off.

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Added on April 27, 2008, 10:15 pm
oh btw,

i got a pair ofr sugar glider,

my dad got a jungle magpie n a normal magpie.

hahahahaha


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QUOTE(michael2wk @ Apr 27 2008, 10:13 PM)
hmmm... well lovebird is the the same colour like the mom, red headed.
another 1 is mutated. the mutated 1 a bit handicap.
this round gonna keep it, if got new round will sell off.

cheers!


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oh btw,

i got a pair ofr sugar glider,

my dad got a jungle magpie n a normal magpie.

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Ohh...you are from birds lover family.

My cockatiel is very funny, he would fall down from the stick bar whenever he fell asleep, and he seems like don't know how to climb back up usiing his beak. And he doesn't know how to eat sun flower seed, only eat small seeds and veg.

Now he is getting used to my dogs' presence, and not afraid of them anymore. He is getting naughtier, wouldn't want to stay on our hands, keep on flying to some place to venture itself.

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But I read from another website says young or immature male will also show like female stripe, have to wait till its first molt to determine.  This teil is 5 months old, yet to have its first molt. 

How come a rat can kill a cockatiel?  You cockatiel is not inside a cage at night? My cocker spaniels see the birds, will go crazy over the birds.  I have to be very careful with them.  I need to hold the bird on one hand, and another hand hold a cane.  My dogs are scared of the cane.

How to take care of a Cockatiel?  Does it need to bath every morning and need morning sun as well?  How come my Cocktatiel doesn't know how to eat sunflower seed?


Added on April 26, 2008, 5:12 pmToday I went to Macaw Pet Trading in the Tasik Selatan, saw a 3 tamed Cockatiel for sale, (2 Lutino and 1 Pied/Pearl).  Very expensive the Lutino is selling for RM300 each, and the condition of the bird not very healthy looking and not as tame as compared to the one I bought yesterday.  So I didn't buy from there.

In fact many birds species in there. And quite surprise to see so many young ferret for sale there too.  But the condition of the ferret very kesian, crowded in the tank.

I saw 2 San Hu for sale, but no sound one.  So didn't dared to buy, quite costly RM250 each.

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Oh, 5 months old.... bet you can't wait for it to molt. Sorry, I thought it was older coz the crest looks so high already.

All my birds are kept indoors. One day a rat decided to steal food from my cockatiel's cage. Then I think my tiel put up a fight, so what happened was the rat won, chewed up my tiel's feet and wings..... not a pretty sight for a 12 year old. I was 12 back then, woke up in the morning to see such a sight, blood on the walls and all over the cage. Could see it was a rat coz got some rat paw marks on the newspaper....

If you got your tiel from a breeder, then the eating habits are better. Both my greys are picky eaters, only want to eat seeds and kuaci. My white face is different, she would eat green leafy veggies readily as well as her seeds. I'm hoping my 2 greys would pick up the good habit from the white face.

Cockatiels do have dusty feathers... it's their skin lah, it's dusty just like cockatoos. Some morning sun and also light misting is enough. You can do it daily. Since my cage is so big and indoors, I do it weekly....

It's crazy to keep birds indoors...
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Oh, 5 months old....  bet you can't wait for it to molt. Sorry, I thought it was older coz the crest looks so high already.

All my birds are kept indoors. One day a rat decided to steal food from my cockatiel's cage. Then I think my tiel put up a fight, so what happened was the rat won, chewed up my tiel's feet and wings..... not a pretty sight for a 12 year old. I was 12 back then, woke up in the morning to see such a sight, blood on the walls and all over the cage. Could see it was a rat coz got some rat paw marks on the newspaper....

If you got your tiel from a breeder, then the eating habits are better. Both my greys are picky eaters, only want to eat seeds and kuaci. My white face is different, she would eat green leafy veggies readily as well as her seeds. I'm hoping my 2 greys would pick up the good habit from the white face.

Cockatiels do have dusty feathers... it's their skin lah, it's dusty just like cockatoos. Some morning sun and also light misting is enough. You can do it daily. Since my cage is so big and indoors, I do it weekly....

It's crazy to keep birds indoors...
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But I will keep my birds indoor at night, scared of neighbourhood stray cats. Some stray cats are not afraid of my dogs, furthermore my beagle is a deep sleeper, she wouldn't jaga the house at night.
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i keep all my birds in door.
my dad keep his 2 magpie out door hangin at the ceiling.

miss my tails la. died 1yrs ago.
is more gentle then buggies & lovebirds.


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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 27 2008, 11:28 PM)
Ohh...you are from birds lover family.

My cockatiel is very funny, he would fall down from the stick bar whenever he fell asleep, and he seems like don't know how to climb back up usiing his beak.  And he doesn't know how to eat sun flower seed, only eat small seeds and veg.

Now he is getting used to my dogs' presence, and not afraid of them anymore.  He is getting naughtier, wouldn't want to stay on our hands, keep on flying to some place to venture itself.
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well.. its like that once they get use to the environment bro.
but tiel r more gentle. buggies then to bite aswell if bad mood.
my lovebird r stitch. destroy anything that can chew.

btw. my lovebirds can wolf whistle. the female are loud n good.
so now the baby can wolf whistle, same goes my buggies.
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i keep all my birds in door.
my dad keep his 2 magpie out door hangin at the ceiling.

miss my tails la. died 1yrs ago.
is more gentle then buggies & lovebirds.


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well.. its like that once they get use to the environment bro.
but tiel r more gentle. buggies then to bite aswell if bad mood.
my lovebird r stitch. destroy anything that can chew.

btw. my lovebirds can wolf whistle. the female are loud n good.
so now the baby can wolf whistle, same goes my buggies.
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How did your tiel died? Old age or sickness?

I'm thinking for keeping some cheap budgies to accompany my tiels in big cage, not sure will the tiels learn the bad things from untamed budgies or not.
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 28 2008, 12:13 AM)
How did your tiel died? Old age or sickness?

I'm thinking for keeping some cheap budgies to accompany my tiels in big cage, not sure will the tiels learn the bad things from untamed budgies or not.
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donno...
my 1st tiel.
just died like that.

betta not keep the untame buggies.
might get bully by them, get 1 or 2 tame 1 betta.
so they can learn from each other while u bond with them.

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 27 2008, 10:42 PM)
But I will keep my birds indoor at night, scared of neighbourhood stray cats.  Some stray cats are not afraid of my dogs, furthermore my beagle is a deep sleeper, she wouldn't jaga the house at night.
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I think for me it was luck last time.... and could be coz of the faulty window.... now house is rat free.... well, wild rat free coz I got plenty of rodents indoors LOL.

Last time I kept budgies outdoors..... then neighbour's cat killed one and injured 2.... so we learnt from that. It didn't happen at night, it was during the day. So now all the birds are kept indoors.... I guess we sudah takut hahahh.

QUOTE(michael2wk @ Apr 27 2008, 11:06 PM)
i keep all my birds in door.
my dad keep his 2 magpie out door hangin at the ceiling.

miss my tails la. died 1yrs ago.
is more gentle then buggies & lovebirds.


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well.. its like that once they get use to the environment bro.
but tiel r more gentle. buggies then to bite aswell if bad mood.
my lovebird r stitch. destroy anything that can chew.

btw. my lovebirds can wolf whistle. the female are loud n good.
so now the baby can wolf whistle, same goes my buggies.
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Your lovebirds can wolf whistle? Wahhhhh..... my brother's lovebirds are damn freaking noisy! Chit chit chit.... all Fischer's lovebirds. The parent birds died, but they left us with 7 noisy offspring.... None could mimic other sounds.... even my budgie, which I think could be an English doesn't really pick up tunes. The budgie was found, a lost bird that flew into my dad's office compound. Semi tame only.

The only bird that mimics tunes well are the mynah and african grey at home.
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I think for me it was luck last time.... and could be coz of the faulty window.... now house is rat free.... well, wild rat free coz I got plenty of rodents indoors LOL.

Last time I kept budgies outdoors..... then neighbour's cat killed one and injured 2.... so we learnt from that. It didn't happen at night, it was during the day. So now all the birds are kept indoors.... I guess we sudah takut hahahh.
Your lovebirds can wolf whistle? Wahhhhh..... my brother's lovebirds are damn freaking noisy! Chit chit chit.... all Fischer's lovebirds. The parent birds died, but they left us with 7 noisy offspring.... None could mimic other sounds.... even my budgie, which I think could be an English doesn't really pick up tunes. The budgie was found, a lost bird that flew into my dad's office compound. Semi tame only.

The only bird that mimics tunes well are the mynah and african grey at home.
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You have so many tiels and budgies, and none of them can whistle or mimic? Wah..that really sound like very much depending on luck in getting one that can talk and whistle... blink.gif
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You have so many tiels and budgies, and none of them can whistle or mimic?  Wah..that really sound like very much depending on luck in getting one that can talk and whistle... blink.gif
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well depend on individual bird for talkin or mimic.
i train my lovebirds from young. keep repeat whistle wit them in the toilet.
1 at each time. small compound easier to bond. didnt expect it to breed thru.
once in awhile will bring the male to office, hes much more tamer then the female.
but the female more smarted but bites hards.

how the 2 offspring seperated from the parent learn to wolf whistle 2.
even teach my eng buggies to whistle.

can tell u when in the living hall, all of them make hell lotsa noise la.
my wife gonna kill me soon if i not gonna built an outdoor aviery.
pening dy la. somemore laying eggs now. double pening la.

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 27 2008, 11:41 PM)
You have so many tiels and budgies, and none of them can whistle or mimic?  Wah..that really sound like very much depending on luck in getting one that can talk and whistle... blink.gif
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My tiels are bonded adults, so they won't wanna layan me. I can whistle with the male.... well, tiel whistle, he wouldn't mimic the wolf whistle so I always whistle with him the normal tiel tune. If you have a young bird, it can be train to mimic. For tiel, my females don't whistle... only the male. That's why I'm looking for another male, a tame one to train.

Budgie was a lost and found one.... it wouldn't mimic us hahahah.... I only have 1 budgie.

Lovebirds, my brother never train....
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 28 2008, 01:02 AM)
My tiels are bonded adults, so they won't wanna layan me. I can whistle with the male.... well, tiel whistle, he wouldn't mimic the wolf whistle so I always whistle with him the normal tiel tune. If you have a young bird, it can be train to mimic. For tiel, my females don't whistle... only the male. That's why I'm looking for another male, a tame one to train.

Budgie was a lost and found one.... it wouldn't mimic us hahahah.... I only have 1 budgie.

Lovebirds, my brother never train....
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just enjoy the company.

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well... cant get best of both world
just enjoy the company.

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True.

I'm only interested in tiels, so I bought an adult pair for breeding so I can tame the offspring.... but the adults are bad parents coz everytime got chick, sure die.

The bird lover in my family is my bro.... with his Afican grey lah.... lovebirds.... then my dad has his evil mynah.... why I call it evil? Coz it wants to peck me all the time. But with my dad, the mynah is really tame and can sit on his arm and shoulder. My mom dots over the zebra dove and budgie and her duck.

Now my tiels are 8 years old.... the african grey is 10, the lovebirds are 9, the mynah is 5....
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True.

I'm only interested in tiels, so I bought an adult pair for breeding so I can tame the offspring.... but the adults are bad parents coz everytime got chick, sure die.

The bird lover in my family is my bro.... with his Afican grey lah.... lovebirds.... then my dad has his evil mynah.... why I call it evil? Coz it wants to peck me all the time. But with my dad, the mynah is really tame and can sit on his arm and shoulder. My mom dots over the zebra dove and budgie and her duck.

Now my tiels are 8 years old.... the african grey is 10, the lovebirds are 9, the mynah is 5....
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really family pet lover la.
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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Apr 28 2008, 12:12 AM)
True.

I'm only interested in tiels, so I bought an adult pair for breeding so I can tame the offspring.... but the adults are bad parents coz everytime got chick, sure die.

The bird lover in my family is my bro.... with his Afican grey lah.... lovebirds.... then my dad has his evil mynah.... why I call it evil? Coz it wants to peck me all the time. But with my dad, the mynah is really tame and can sit on his arm and shoulder. My mom dots over the zebra dove and budgie and her duck.

Now my tiels are 8 years old.... the african grey is 10, the lovebirds are 9, the mynah is 5....
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Hahaha..everyone in the family has a pet bird of his/her own, sound like an interesting family.

So next time you or your brother better find a the other half that likes pets as well, otherwise will face the fate like Michael and myself, got nagging from the other half, as they are not really into pets. My hubby already nagging me vmad.gif , now adding more birds into my pets collection.

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Hahaha..everyone in the family has a pet bird of his/her own, sound like an interesting family.

So next time you or your brother better find a the other half that likes pets as well, otherwise will face the fate like Michael and myself, got nagging from the other half, as they are not really into pets.  My hubby already nagging me  vmad.gif ,  now adding more birds into my pets collection.
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my wife nag me everyday la. but she accept it now that i love my pet very much. wanted to get ferret la.
she told me to sell all birds then only can keep. damn rclxub.gif
izzit the same wit u juztiny?



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my wife nag me everyday la. but she accept it now that i love my pet very much. wanted to get ferret la.
she told me to sell all birds then only can keep. damn  rclxub.gif
izzit the same wit u juztiny?
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My hubby nagging me too, saying the house is like a zoo now. But he wouldn't dare to control me, because I used my own money to buy my pets, didn't use any single cents from him. Anyway I'm the main bread winner for our home, so keeping pets are the only way I de-stress myself. If he were to do any harms on my pets, I would gone crazy and take revenge and probably will poison him eventually! Hahaha..I think he knows me well...better don't trigger my mental disorder syndrome!
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hi all biggrin.gif ,
did i miss something? drool.gif , i was busy past few days becoz of DSA at PWTC, plus my diamond dove lays 2 eggs. this is the latest pic i've got. icon_idea.gif
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congrats on the eggs.
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hope more to coe n hatches!
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My hubby nagging me too, saying the house is like a zoo now.  But he wouldn't dare to control me, because I used my own money to buy my pets, didn't use any single cents from him.  Anyway I'm the main bread winner for our home, so keeping pets are the only way I de-stress myself.  If he were to do any harms on my pets, I would gone crazy and take revenge and probably will poison him eventually!  Hahaha..I think he knows me well...better don't trigger my mental disorder syndrome!
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I was in JB last year. I visited a pet shop. It has a few cockatoos, an African Grey and a blue Macaw. All the parrots were very tame. I was very fond of the Macaw. It was very playful and also a very good talker. It could say Gong Xi Fa Cai, Hello, Ni Hau Ma, Omi To Fo and many more. The Macaw always ask for a hand shake by lifting its foot and said 'shake hand'. Before I left the shop I bid farewell to the Macaw by saying bye bye and I was shocked that the Macaw waved one of its feet and replied 'bye bye'.

I nearly bought a Cockatoo which the owner offered me $2,500. But some how the wing was a bit cacat.
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I was in JB last year. I visited a pet shop. It has a few cockatoos, an African Grey and a blue Macaw. All the parrots were very tame. I was very fond of the Macaw. It was very playful and also a very good talker. It could say Gong Xi Fa Cai, Hello, Ni Hau Ma, Omi To Fo and many more. The Macaw always ask for a hand shake by lifting its foot and said 'shake hand'. Before I left the shop I bid farewell to the Macaw by saying bye bye and I was shocked that the Macaw waved one of its feet and replied 'bye bye'.

I nearly bought a Cockatoo which the owner offered me $2,500. But some how the wing was a bit cacat.
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big birds eh?
nice to play. but once show trantrum can rclxub.gif ok.
their life span is long. but best part is they r like your children.
depend on individual character ofcoz.
just my 2 cent. i also thinkin hard to get a cockatoo la.
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In Singapore, you guys must go to Goodwill bird trading shop.... full of rare parrots and birds. And their accessory shop is awesome! The variety of bird food and toys.... crazy crazy.

I went there, met the owner but I was in a rush so didn't have a chat with him. Planning to go back during my holidays.
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In Singapore, you guys must go to Goodwill bird trading shop.... full of rare parrots and birds. And their accessory shop is awesome! The variety of bird food and toys.... crazy crazy.

I went there, met the owner but I was in a rush so didn't have a chat with him. Planning to go back during my holidays.
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QUOTE(4Rings @ Apr 28 2008, 10:25 AM)
I was in JB last year. I visited a pet shop. It has a few cockatoos, an African Grey and a blue Macaw. All the parrots were very tame. I was very fond of the Macaw. It was very playful and also a very good talker. It could say Gong Xi Fa Cai, Hello, Ni Hau Ma, Omi To Fo and many more. The Macaw always ask for a hand shake by lifting its foot and said 'shake hand'. Before I left the shop I bid farewell to the Macaw by saying bye bye and I was shocked that the Macaw waved one of its feet and replied 'bye bye'.

I nearly bought a Cockatoo which the owner offered me $2,500. But some how the wing was a bit cacat.
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I love Macaw too, but it is darn freaking expensive to own one. I did make enquiry 2 years ago, it was more than Rm8k & above.

And I have no experience in birds, so dare not buy such an expensive one. Better start with something small, Cockatiel.
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 28 2008, 02:06 PM)
I love Macaw too, but it is darn freaking expensive to own one.  I did make enquiry 2 years ago, it was more than Rm8k & above.

And I have no experience in birds, so dare not buy such an expensive one.  Better start with something small, Cockatiel.
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good choice start wit tiel or buggies.
get to know the nature of birds.
me also hopping 1 day can own an african or cockatoo la.
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ Apr 28 2008, 01:55 AM)
hi all biggrin.gif ,
did i miss something? drool.gif , i was busy past few days becoz of DSA at PWTC, plus my diamond dove lays 2 eggs. this is the latest pic i've got. icon_idea.gif
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WOW! Hope to see little bird hatching around... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(michael2wk @ Apr 28 2008, 10:41 AM)
big birds eh?
nice to play. but once show trantrum can  rclxub.gif ok.
their life span is long. but best part is they r like your children.
depend on individual character ofcoz.
just my 2 cent. i also thinkin hard to get a cockatoo la.
hope my dream come true.
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It was my dream to get a cockatoo back in the 80's. It was selling between $400 and $800 then.
I was at Brickfields pet shop a few months back and was told cockatoos are now priced between $5K to $8K!

I remember I bought a cockatiel for only $45, now it is selling at $180.
And a Lori at $120 but now it is at $900.
What a price increased!


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I love Macaw too, but it is darn freaking expensive to own one.  I did make enquiry 2 years ago, it was more than Rm8k & above.

And I have no experience in birds, so dare not buy such an expensive one.  Better start with something small, Cockatiel.
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$8K for a macaw? I was quoted $16K for that talking Macaw.

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$8K for a macaw? I was quoted $16K for that talking Macaw.
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Not RM8K, I meant more than RM8K, can't recall the exact figure. But that Macaw cannot talk yet some more.


I had just booked a pair of baby love birds. Will collect them next week. Still need to hand feed, now just 10days old.

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WOW! Hope to see little bird hatching around... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 28 2008, 08:31 PM)
Not RM8K, I meant more than RM8K, can't recall the exact figure.  But that Macaw cannot talk yet some more.
I had just booked a pair of baby love birds. Will collect them next week. Still need to hand feed, now just 10days old.
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last time i know a supplier who quote me cockatoo for less then 2grand for a baby birds.
all cut throut la nowaday. dont go the the brickfield to get birds la. very unhealthy la.
try to get from breeder. never know wat will happen to ur birds. cost so much ok.
just my 2cent.

wow someone got a pair of love birds n havnt wean yet.
if u bring back n conti hand feed. im sure it will bond to like its lover la.
sure hubby jeles. hahahahaha

just spoke to my wife thinkin of getting a chin then a ferret la.
hopefully can Poison her. rclxm9.gif

good day!!!
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QUOTE(michael2wk @ Apr 29 2008, 08:19 AM)
last time i know a supplier who quote me cockatoo for less then 2grand for a baby birds.
all cut throut la nowaday. dont go the the brickfield to get birds la. very unhealthy la.
try to get from breeder. never know wat will happen to ur birds. cost so much ok.
just my 2cent.

wow someone got a pair of love birds n havnt wean yet.
if u bring back n conti hand feed. im sure it will bond to like its lover la.
sure hubby jeles. hahahahaha

just spoke to my wife thinkin of getting a chin then a ferret la.
hopefully can Poison her.  rclxm9.gif

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Chincilla is cute, good idea, sure she will love it. Ferret is cute too but really smelly.......even I also cannot tahan.

Both also need a lot of attention and special care. Not easy to maintain.

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QUOTE(michael2wk @ Apr 29 2008, 08:19 AM)
last time i know a supplier who quote me cockatoo for less then 2grand for a baby birds.
all cut throut la nowaday. dont go the the brickfield to get birds la. very unhealthy la.
try to get from breeder. never know wat will happen to ur birds. cost so much ok.
just my 2cent.

wow someone got a pair of love birds n havnt wean yet.
if u bring back n conti hand feed. im sure it will bond to like its lover la.
sure hubby jeles. hahahahaha

just spoke to my wife thinkin of getting a chin then a ferret la.
hopefully can Poison her.  rclxm9.gif

good day!!!
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Where to find breeder?

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Where to find breeder?
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You can find breeder from Malaysia Bird Forum (http://pet-cockatiel.com/Dboard/index.php)

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Where to find breeder?
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juz have givin u the detail bro.
hope can help la.


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You can find breeder from Malaysia Bird Forum  (http://pet-cockatiel.com/Dboard/index.php)
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didnt know this site la.
thanks 4 sharing.

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Hi,

Most of yours are keep cockatiel, love bird & budgie only??

Anybody here keep the song bird like magpie, shama, jambul or singing finch here?? wanna know more song bird buddy here...
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hey guyz...do u guyz know where is the macaw breeders...i'm looking for macaw...green wing or military macaw...nevermind!..just pls let me know the breeder..as long as macaw...african grey also can...but i'm looking for a breeder where i can buy cheaper than a petshop...i want to buy maybe 3 or 4....thnax guy...help me..macaw made me crazy..
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QUOTE(denai666 @ Apr 30 2008, 01:29 AM)
hey guyz...do u guyz know where is the macaw breeders...i'm looking for macaw...green wing or military macaw...nevermind!..just pls let me know the breeder..as long as macaw...african grey also can...but i'm looking for a breeder where i can buy cheaper than a petshop...i want to buy maybe 3 or 4....thnax guy...help me..macaw made me crazy..
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WOW! You so rich. Wanna buy 3 or 4 Macaws.
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QUOTE(denai666 @ Apr 30 2008, 02:29 AM)
hey guyz...do u guyz know where is the macaw breeders...i'm looking for macaw...green wing or military macaw...nevermind!..just pls let me know the breeder..as long as macaw...african grey also can...but i'm looking for a breeder where i can buy cheaper than a petshop...i want to buy maybe 3 or 4....thnax guy...help me..macaw made me crazy..
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whoa,

1 time sapu 3 - 4.
really bird lover with $$$$

btw, my lovebirds got 2nd egg.
hopefully it hatch la.
good day!
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My Cockatiel is getting familiar with us each day. It can now demand to come out from its cage, and go back to its cage by itself. It enjoys riding on our shoulder walking around. If I sit down, it will fly towards my table and explore. Now it isn't afraid of my dogs anymore. Very fun pet to play with.

My Magpies very hard working in singing everyday. Very entertaining in deed.


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QUOTE(michael2wk @ Apr 30 2008, 10:26 AM)
btw, my lovebirds got 2nd egg.
hopefully it hatch la.
good day!
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What mutation colour are your love birds? The pair I'm buying is Lutino Peachfaced. But I would love to have Peachfaced Opine.


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QUOTE(denai666 @ Apr 30 2008, 01:29 AM)
hey guyz...do u guyz know where is the macaw breeders...i'm looking for macaw...green wing or military macaw...nevermind!..just pls let me know the breeder..as long as macaw...african grey also can...but i'm looking for a breeder where i can buy cheaper than a petshop...i want to buy maybe 3 or 4....thnax guy...help me..macaw made me crazy..
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Wow..you really rich! One Macaw can cost up to RM15k, 4 of them will be RM60k! You want to become a Macaw breeder?

Here is the breeder/bird farm list you could find African Grey and may be Macaw. http://pet-cockatiel.com/Dboard/viewforum....25a410845e52d2c

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ Apr 30 2008, 11:52 AM)
My Cockatiel is getting familiar with us each day.  It can now demand to come out from its cage, and go back to its cage by itself.  It enjoys riding on our shoulder walking around.  If I sit down, it will fly towards my table and explore.  Now it isn't afraid of my dogs anymore.  Very fun pet to play with.

My Magpies very hard working in singing everyday. Very entertaining in deed.


Added on April 30, 2008, 10:55 am
What mutation colour are your love birds?  The pair I'm buying is Lutino Peachfaced.  But I would love to have Peachfaced Opine.


Added on April 30, 2008, 11:12 am

Wow..you really rich!  One Macaw can cost up to RM15k, 4 of them will be RM60k!  You want to become a Macaw breeder?

Here is the breeder/bird farm list you could find African Grey and may be Macaw.  http://pet-cockatiel.com/Dboard/viewforum....25a410845e52d2c
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morning peeps

how old is ur tiel now juztiny?
got pic? im still trying how to upload pic la.
noob u know brows.gif

60k man... jeles la.
well if not macau's life span is 60 n above rite?
correct me im wrong.
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yea. tats true. some even has longer life span than their owners!
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Experts have dismissed the claim that a 104-year-old foul-mouthed parrot once belonged to the wartime Prime Minister Winston Churchill.

Charlie, a blue and yellow macaw, is spending his twilight years in a garden centre in Surrey and his owner Peter Oram says the bird used to live with Sir Winston Churchill in his heyday.

Mr Oram says his father-in-law Percy Dabner sold Charlie to the former prime minister in 1937 and then took the bird back after his death in 1965.

The Churchill family has questioned Mr Oram's story and historians have said they are unsure if the leader ever owned a parrot.

The bird entertains customers at the Heathfield Nurseries, in Reigate, with a string of obscene anti-Nazi tirades, which Mr Oram says Charlie picked up from Churchill.

Staff at the National Trust's Chartwell property, Churchill's former country home in Kent, said they had conducted a thorough search of records and photographs but could find no evidence of him ever owning a parrot.

Judith Seaward, marketing manager at Chartwell, said: "We really looked and looked and know he had a budgerigar and all sorts of other animals.

"He loved animals, he had dogs, cats, pigs - but there's no record of a parrot.

Standing by the bird

"We have searched what we've got here and spoken to members of the family who I really thought would have known."

Staff at the nurseries were standing by the bird on Tuesday and defending his claim to fame.

Sylvia Martin, Heathfield's nursery manager, said: "He definitely did belong to Churchill.

"My boss Peter Oram's father-in-law sold the parrot to Churchill and when he died they were asked to go back to Chartwell and collect the birds and brought them away."

"When he died they were asked to go and collect some birds and Charlie was one of them."
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[quote=Juztiny,Apr 30 2008, 11:52 AM]
My Cockatiel is getting familiar with us each day. It can now demand to come out from its cage, and go back to its cage by itself. It enjoys riding on our shoulder walking around. If I sit down, it will fly towards my table and explore. Now it isn't afraid of my dogs anymore. Very fun pet to play with.

My Magpies very hard working in singing everyday. Very entertaining in deed.


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What mutation colour are your love birds? The pair I'm buying is Lutino Peachfaced. But I would love to have Peachfaced Opine.

1 is both peach face. one is red head, the male is bright yellow head.
1 baby is like the mom aka red head, the handicap 1 is diff colour, mostly mutated to greenish/blueiss colur, face is light mid grey colour.

u getting a tame pair or wc pair?
saw midvalley got 3 pair of lovebirds sort of pair up dy.
got 2 pair peach face, 1 pair blackmask.
so temp to get 1 or 2 pair just to keep. drool.gif

think think 1st la.

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u getting a tame pair or wc pair?
saw midvalley got 3 pair of lovebirds sort of pair up dy.
got 2 pair peach face, 1 pair blackmask.
so temp to get 1 or 2 pair just to keep.  drool.gif

think think 1st la.
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I'm buying a pair still need handfeed baby love bird.

Now I'm in Sungai Petani, bought a Pekin Robin and a Mata Puteh. The Pekin Robin I bought already can sing and very colourful, saw it sang in the shop and so beautiful, and eventually bought it. Mata Puteh was only RM20, so can't resist the temptation, bought it as well. Over there got 2-3 San Fu bird which can sing as well and only sell at RM180 each. I have to hold my handbreak though, because my car cannot put so many things already.

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I'm buying a pair still need handfeed baby love bird. 

Now I'm in Sungai Petani, bought a Pekin Robin and a Mata Puteh.  The Pekin Robin I bought already can sing and very colourful, saw it sang in the shop and so beautiful, and eventually bought it.  Mata Puteh was only RM20, so can't resist the temptation, bought it as well.  Over there got 2-3 San Fu bird which can sing as well and only sell at RM180 each.  I have to hold my handbreak though, because my car cannot put so many things already.
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hi juztiny,
i can see u r getting more excited with all kind of Soft Bill Birds just like me rclxms.gif . but one thing u have to beware with PERHILITAN blink.gif .
2 days ago i just kena cought by PERHILITAN cry.gif . bad luck........
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hi juztiny,
i can see u r getting more excited with all kind of Soft Bill Birds just like me  rclxms.gif .  but one thing u have to beware with PERHILITAN  blink.gif .
2 days ago i just kena cought by PERHILITAN  cry.gif . bad luck........
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You stayed in apartment, right? How come Perhilitan can know what sort of birds you're keeping? Must be your neighbour reported to the Perhilitan, otherwise no one could see from the based of the apartment.

Well...looks like I can only put Magpies outside, will keep the rest inside the house.

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 4 2008, 04:57 PM)
You stayed in apartment, right?  How come Perhilitan can know what sort of birds you're keeping?  Must be your neighbour reported to the Perhilitan, otherwise no one could see from the based of the apartment.

Well...looks like I can only put Magpies outside, will keep the rest inside the house.
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one of the officers said, someone has email to them. u should keep your birds those without license in house. but if someone report to Perhilitan, still they'll search till your toilet, as what they did to me, coz i don't keep any birds out door but still they know.

they took my,
6 shama
2 mata puteh
1 merbah jambul.
cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ May 4 2008, 11:30 PM)
one of the officers said, someone has email to them. u should keep your birds those without license in house. but if someone report to Perhilitan, still they'll search till your toilet, as what they did to me, coz i don't keep any birds out door but still they know.

they took my,
6 shama
2 mata puteh
1 merbah jambul.
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Wow...sound like somebody in the forum is monitoring us and track down by registered email address and residential address. Scary.... blink.gif

Didn't know you have so many Sharmas and Mata Puteh! May I know how much was the "saman" given to you? I heard some birds licence itself cost RM500 per bird.

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QUOTE(mann_kl @ May 5 2008, 12:30 AM)
one of the officers said, someone has email to them. u should keep your birds those without license in house. but if someone report to Perhilitan, still they'll search till your toilet, as what they did to me, coz i don't keep any birds out door but still they know.

they took my,
6 shama
2 mata puteh
1 merbah jambul.
cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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poor things
hope ur ok there.
oh how much is the saman btw?

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Just curious, how much is the market price for a Common Budgie? I saw some labeled as Common Budgie and others as English Budgie?

What's the difference?
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Just curious, how much is the market price for a Common Budgie? I saw some labeled as Common Budgie and others as English Budgie?

What's the difference?
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Common Budgie is smaller in size than English Budgie. The price range for Common Budgie is RM20-30 per bird depending on which birdshop.
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Common Budgie is smaller in size than English Budgie.  The price range for Common Budgie is RM20-30 per bird depending on which birdshop.
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english budgie's head is like an alien,
much more bigger size then normal budgie & lovel birds.

hope can help.

p/s : juztiny : ur magpie with the long tail is call wat? jungle magpie eh?
my dad got 1 who can sing chinese songs. damn cute


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p/s : juztiny : ur magpie with the long tail is call wat? jungle magpie eh?
my dad got 1 who can sing chinese songs. damn cute
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That one is called Sharma (Murai Batu). Wah...can sing Chinese songs some more, so geng!
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 5 2008, 01:33 PM)
That one is called Sharma (Murai Batu).  Wah...can sing Chinese songs some more, so geng!
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sharma, thanks 4 tellin me.
well can sing some chinese songs like seong hoi tan, choi san tou.
its a gift from my dad's fren.
current he got a baby magpie 2.


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Where to find breeder?
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I saw from adpost, somebody is selling a 2 months old Macaw for RM5,800 only! Quickly grab! Damn cheap, some more hand fed young Macaw.

http://www.adpost.com/my/pets/14892/
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my lovebird's eggs!
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my lovebird's eggs!
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3 eggs? Or one is a fake egg?

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3 eggs?  Or one is a fake egg?
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wish its fake egg la.
actually got 4 eggs. cant get the shoot all the 4 eggs together in 1 shot.


wow hand fed macau.
good price la btw!!
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After reading every single page of this thread, I'm feeling the urge to get a bird, perhaps a budgie since they're stated as a beginner bird on the first page yeah?

Question is, does anyone know of pet shops around PJ that has Common Budgies for sale? Also, I have a couple of questions in mind :

1) How big should the cage be for a single budgie?
2) Where should I situate the cage? Outdoors? (The weather's kinda hot at this time of the year)

Many thanks in advance. =)
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After reading every single page of this thread, I'm feeling the urge to get a bird, perhaps a budgie since they're stated as a beginner bird on the first page yeah?

Question is, does anyone know of pet shops around PJ that has Common Budgies for sale? Also, I have a couple of questions in mind :

1) How big should the cage be for a single budgie?
2) Where should I situate the cage? Outdoors? (The weather's kinda hot at this time of the year)

Many thanks in advance. =)
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If you intend to buy untamed Budgies, then better buy a pair, otherwise it will be very lonely.

You can put outdoor (under shade) or indoor. However must give them some morning sun and bath daily. A 16" metal cage would be just fine.
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Wow...sound like somebody in the forum is monitoring us and track down by registered email address and residential address.  Scary.... blink.gif

Didn't know you have so many Sharmas and Mata Puteh!  May I know how much was the "saman" given to you?  I heard some birds licence itself cost RM500 per bird.
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saman still don't know yet, coz the officer ask me to see him next monday. license only rm10 for each bird per year.
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Thanks for the quick reply Juztiny.

Is it possible to tame an untamed Budgie? I'm currently looking into getting a single Budgie as I like the idea of bonding with the bird and not a pair of Budgies bonding with each other.

If taming an untamed Budgie is difficult then by any chance do you happen to know of any Common Budgie breeder?(My guess is that birds from breeders are usually tamed)

QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 5 2008, 07:18 PM)
If you intend to buy untamed Budgies, then better buy a pair, otherwise it will be very lonely.

You can put outdoor (under shade) or indoor.  However must give them some morning sun and bath daily.  A 16" metal cage would be just fine.
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Thanks for the quick reply Juztiny.

Is it possible to tame an untamed Budgie? I'm currently looking into getting a single Budgie as I like the idea of bonding with the bird and not a pair of Budgies bonding with each other.

If taming an untamed Budgie is difficult then by any chance do you happen to know of any Common Budgie breeder?(My guess is that birds from breeders are usually tamed)
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If you want to buy a tamed Budgie, then the price won't be RM20-30 each. If you want to tame an untamed Budgie, very difficult. Unless you know the technique well. Even just hold it, it will bite you, very painful though. To get a tamed bird, better buy still under hand feed baby, the risk is there, it may not survive under your unexperienced care.

I'm buying a pair of baby love birds (less than 2 weeks old). Just cost around RM45 each bird directly from a breeder. The risk is there, I'm not sure I could succeed in bringing them up or not.
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Anyone know what is most good diet for Merbah Jambul?
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sad.gif Untamed birds do not seem so appealing. Anyway, what is the price range for a tamed Budgie? Is there a basic care-sheet for raising chicks?

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If you want to buy a tamed Budgie, then the price won't be RM20-30 each.  If you want to tame an untamed Budgie, very difficult.  Unless you know the technique well.  Even just hold it, it will bite you, very painful though.  To get a tamed bird, better buy still under hand feed baby, the risk is there, it may not survive under your unexperienced care.

I'm buying a pair of baby love birds (less than 2 weeks old). Just cost around RM45 each bird directly from a breeder.  The risk is there, I'm not sure I could succeed in bringing them up or not.
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sad.gif Untamed birds do not seem so appealing. Anyway, what is the price range for a tamed Budgie? Is there a basic care-sheet for raising chicks?
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I have seen someone wanted sell a tamed Budgie for RM128. (refer http://homeapet.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=5351) I got my tamed Cockatiel only RM150. I also don't know much about hand feeding chicks, have to rely on the breeder's guidance.


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Anyone know what is most good diet for Merbah Jambul?
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Below is extracted from bird forum for your reference:-

Salam sejahtera semua. kali ni saya nak berikan petua bagimana nak jaga suara Mj agar cun, tajam dan keras suaranya. Bagi yang ada menyimpan Mj yang suaranya sengau sama ada dari Siam atau kampung bird cuba amalkan petua ini. Laughing Laughing

1. Jadikan buah petola sebagai makanan MJ. Sesetengah MJ suka makan tapi ada yang cerewet langsung tak sentuh. Buah petola yang muda akan menggalakkan Mj berbunyi dan mengurangkan kandungan kolestrol burung. Sebaik-baiknya diberi 2 kali seminggu dengan dibelah dua dan digantungkan pada sangkar. Bagi yang tak mahu makan jangan putus asa berikan berulangkali lama kelamaan Mj akan makan juga.

2. Berikan jambul makan cili padi yang bersaiz kecil dengan dibelah dan dimasukkan ke dalam mulutnya. Selepas diberikan cili padi burung tu perlu dimandikan kerana cili padi panas dan akan bertindak balas dengan cepat. Sekiranya diamati akan lahir bunyi-bunyi lain yang belum pernah dikeluarkan. Awas jangan beri selalu sebaik-baiknya sebulan sekali untuk membersihkan suara dan mencuci kahak dan lendir yang ada pada burung.

3. Bagi yang ada memlihara burung daun (GGBL) atau murai batu, letakkan burung tersebut berdekatan dengan MJ kerana MJ akan meniru bunyi-bunyi burung tersebut dalam jangka masa yang agak lama juga. Kalau burung tu burung yang muda atau yang sengau lebih mudah peniruan dilakukan dan dalam jangka panjang akan hilang bunyi-bunyi yang tidak dikehendaki itu.

PERINGATAN: Perubahan pada bunyi MJ bukanlah dalam jangka masa yang singkat sebaliknya memakan masa yang agak lama. Kita perlu bersabar dan kita akan dapat lihat perubahan yang berlaku pada burung kita. Selamat mencuba. Laughing Laughing



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I have seen someone wanted sell a tamed Budgie for RM128. (refer http://homeapet.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=5351)  I got my tamed Cockatiel only RM150.  I also don't know much about hand feeding chicks, have to rely on the breeder's guidance.


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Woot! Thanks for the link, appreciate it a lot! Usually are the wings clipped prior to purchase or do you have to clip them yourself? And for the bedding below the cage wire mesh, newspaper will be good enough?
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Woot! Thanks for the link, appreciate it a lot! Usually are the wings clipped prior to purchase or do you have to clip them yourself? And for the bedding below the cage wire mesh, newspaper will be good enough?
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Normally the wings are not clipped, unless you requested it. Or else can clip yourself by referring to internet site (find through google). No need bedding, just wire cage will do, easy to wash daily and you could put in a bowl into the cage for its own bathing.
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Last question, is it the norm for pet birds to have their wings clipped or is it deemed cruel by bird keepers? Wouldn't want to do something harmful to my pet.

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Normally the wings are not clipped, unless you requested it.  Or else can clip yourself by referring to internet site (find through google).  No need bedding,  just wire cage will do, easy to wash daily and you could put in a bowl into the cage for its own bathing.
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Well, I think clipping a bird's wing is more safer and the bird is easier to be tamed also. This is because the bird wont have to spend time flying over from curtain to curtain and avoiding being caught by you.

Clipping a bird's wing is not cruel. The wings will grow back eventually.. Its not that you cut off the whole wing, you are just clipping the few front feathers and they will grow back the next molt. But when you are clipping the wings yourself, just be careful not to trim the blood feather.

And for bedding, newspaper would just do but just keep in mind you have to change it twice a week or once every week.

As for raising chicks, you dont even have the experience to raise an adult bird, let alone a chick. Most budgies in store are under 6 months which mean they are still young and taming can be done easily.

Just FIY, it is advised not to use plastic cups for water or anything. Because they can be stratched easily and the stratches are perfect breeding places for bacteria. Get a stainless steel one.

I assume that you know what to feed you birdie. If you are not sure, please ask.
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Thanks for enlightening me. I always thought that 'clipping' translates to 'clipping the wings to the body'. blush.gif So to speak, does it mean that we have to clip the wings after every molt or is there a specific time where you should re-clip the wings?

About the chick, I've contacted the breeder that Juztiny referred me to(all his Budgies are tamed) and he said that for a beginner, a 4 month old bird would be the best. Correct me if he's wrong.

p/s : Is a 4 month old bird still considered a chick?

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Well, I think clipping a bird's wing is more safer and the bird is easier to be tamed also. This is because the bird wont have to spend time flying over from curtain to curtain and avoiding being caught by you.

Clipping a bird's wing is not cruel. The wings will grow back eventually.. Its not that you cut off the whole wing, you are just clipping the few front feathers and they will grow back the next molt. But when you are clipping the wings yourself, just be careful not to trim the blood feather.

And for bedding, newspaper would just do but just keep in mind you have to change it twice a week or once every week.

As for raising chicks, you dont even have the experience to raise an adult bird, let alone a chick. Most budgies in store are under 6 months which mean they are still young and taming can be done easily.

Just FIY, it is advised not to use plastic cups for water or anything. Because they can be stratched easily and the stratches are perfect breeding places for bacteria. Get a stainless steel one.

I assume that you know what to feed you birdie. If you are not sure, please ask.
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lol...you mean chopping the wing? Thats cruelty. Everytime you see feathers growing you can just trim it.

Well, 4 months budgie is completely fine. And I assume you would want the birdie to bond with you right? That means you will have to spend quite a lot of your time with him/her. Not to mention DIY toys.
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No, not chopping. I thought people clip the wing to the bird's body using some metal clip. tongue.gif

No prob, I can spend hours staring at my scorpions and they're not interactive. RM128 a reasonable price for a 4 month old tamed Common Budgie? For cages, do you have photos of those you recommend for a single bird?

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lol...you mean chopping the wing? Thats cruelty. Everytime you see feathers growing you can just trim it.

Well, 4 months budgie is completely fine. And I assume you would want the birdie to bond with you right? That means you will have to spend quite a lot of your time with him/her. Not to mention DIY toys.
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I dont really know the price for a tamed one cause I usually bought the untamed ones. lol...

For cages, length would be more important than height. So get a long one instead of a tall one. I think a 1.5 - 2 ft one would do.

Happy bird keeping! smile.gif
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And you tamed them yourself? Cool. Is a 4 month old bird the same size as adults or smaller alot?

Also, the price range of said cage? Wouldn't wanna get conned by pet shops nowadays.

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LOL...I didnt tame budgies myself cause I bought 2 at the same time so they paid attention to each other rather than me. And I dont really have the time to tame them (Oppss) LOL...

Well, for cages, I bought a 2.5ft for RM55. And that was three years ago. Where do you live? If you couldnt get a big one, then get one with average size. As long as you take the bird out, he would be fine. Just visit the petshops in your area. Ask and compare the prices.

Why dont you pay a visit to your breeder and see how he keep his birds? He might have an extra cage for you. LOL..
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I live at Kota Damansara.

What's the size of a full grown Common Budgie?
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I cant really tell as it varies from individual to individual. But they are considered small size birds. Smaller than a cockatiel, for sure. When will you be getting your birdie?
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Maybe in a couple of weeks. I'm a college student so I'll have to save up for the expenses. In the mean time, I can read up more about Budgies. smile.gif

Seeds, any recommended brands?
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Oh...so you are renting your own room? Or staying with parents? Cause budgies can be noisy at times and I am sure you wouldnt want to disturb your friends.

Normal seeds will do. I usually bought the Golden Emas 10 or something like that. Cause it is the only brand available. Dont ever buy seeds from a big sack. (The shop keeper will ask you how much you want and they will weight for you.)

And seeds alone wont be enough, they will need a wide range of diet, eg pasta, eggs, veges, fruits, brown rice, etc etc. So better prepare your budget right now.

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Staying with parents. Budget for maintenance wouldn't be a problem. All I have to save up for is the immediate need of RM128 for the bird and for the cage.

How old are your Budgies now? Still alive?
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QUOTE(liette` @ May 5 2008, 11:56 PM)
Maybe in a couple of weeks. I'm a college student so I'll have to save up for the expenses. In the mean time, I can read up more about Budgies. smile.gif

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not to sabur ur from buying anything things.
i got a breeder who sell normal & english budgie btw 150 to 170, tame birds.
will double check for you if u wan. pure budgie breeder.
bought 2 eng budgies from him and all fat n big. flex.gif
if u not in the hurry, try to read more n research a bit more.
single 2.5 or 3 month should be betta to bond.

clip wing is advised, tame / bonding the bird in a smallest room, eg - toilet.
so they can wont fly here n there or teach them whistle, i taught my lovebirds wolf whistle in the toilet,
simple instruction like up, down n so on.

just my 2 cent. cheers!!



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LOL...Still alive, of course. They have been with me for 2 years and I expect another 7-8 years to be with them, if the cat didnt show up and decided to stratch my budgies. I have lost few due to the cute kitties.
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ May 5 2008, 09:02 PM)
saman still don't know yet, coz the officer ask me to see him next monday. license only rm10 for each bird per year.
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im sure need duit kopi la.
10 buck each bird per year eh?
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not to sabur ur from buying anything things.
i got a breeder who sell normal & english budgie btw 150 to 170, tame birds.
will double check for you if u wan. pure budgie breeder.
bought 2 eng budgies from him and all fat n big.  flex.gif
if u not in the hurry, try to read more n research a bit more.
single 2.5 or 3 month should be betta to bond.

clip wing is advised, tame / bonding the bird in a smallest room, eg - toilet.
so they can wont fly here n there or teach them whistle, i taught my lovebirds wolf whistle in the toilet,
simple instruction like up, down n so on.

just my 2 cent. cheers!!
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LOL...I still remembered the first time I took my budgies to the toilet. They were like flying here and there and I had a hard time catching them. Thats when I decided to trim their feathers. haha
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ May 6 2008, 12:20 AM)
LOL...I still remembered the first time I took my budgies to the toilet. They were like flying here and there and I had a hard time catching them. Thats when I decided to trim their feathers. haha
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liette`, ask breeder to teach you how to trim or show u the correct way.


bout the seed, can ask the breeder wat he/she feeding currently.

if got budget a bit, buy those slightly more expensive from commercial pet store, bout 25 to 45 - 5lbs
will last you bout 1 to 3 month. depend how u feed ur birds.

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Michael, how much does your breeder charge for a tamed Common Budgie? I'm looking for Common Budgies as I've read they're smarter than their English counterparts and also have a higher life expectancy. smile.gif

Nice prophet, how old are you? Uncle ah? tongue.gif
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saman still don't know yet, coz the officer ask me to see him next monday. license only rm10 for each bird per year.
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Sure RM10 each bird regardless bird type? Zoological bird shop told me sometime the license iincreased up to RM500, very much depending on season. My sister told me she met someone paid bird license for RM500 in Sg Petani Bandaraya, he is operating a bird farm.
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QUOTE(liette` @ May 6 2008, 12:25 AM)
Michael, how much does your breeder charge for a tamed Common Budgie? I'm looking for Common Budgies as I've read they're smarter than their English counterparts and also have a higher life expectancy. smile.gif

Nice prophet, how old are you? Uncle ah? tongue.gif
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well... i will double check for the normal & eng budgies for u.

well.. bout smart - depend on the bird, parent, how u teach him/she n etc... like human only.

life span - also depend how u keep it, diet, environment n etc..

no wrong or rite. just my 2 cents smile.gif


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well... i will double check for the normal & eng budgies for u.

well.. bout smart - depend on the bird, parent, how u teach him/she n etc... like human only.

life span - also depend how u keep it, diet, environment n etc..

no wrong or rite. just my 2 cents smile.gif
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Okay, I'll be awaiting your reply. The breeder that I contacted doesn't seem interested to do business so heck him la.

Oh, I read that Common Budgie 10-15 years while English Budgie 7-8 years.

Where are you/ your breeder located anyway? I'm located in PJ.

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 6 2008, 12:30 AM)
Sure RM10 each bird regardless bird type?  Zoological bird shop told me sometime the license iincreased up to RM500, very much depending on season.  My sister told me she met someone paid bird license for RM500 in Sg Petani Bandaraya, he is operating a bird farm.
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correct me if wrong.
i've heard if rare birds need to pay more for the license,
some are like AP la. got donno how many thousand per yrs for whole country la.
when u buy parrot - larger breed from petshop, make sure u ask for the license inc. price to purchase birds a not.
dont get con ok,

just my 2 cents smile.gif


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QUOTE(liette` @ May 6 2008, 12:34 AM)
Okay, I'll be awaiting your reply. The breeder that I contacted doesn't seem interested to do business so heck him la.

Oh, I read that Common Budgie 10-15 years while English Budgie 7-8 years.

Where are you/ your breeder located anyway? I'm located in PJ.
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hmmm....

diff ppl diff preference,

i prefer eng budgies then normal. bigger size then my lovebirds,

im located at usj, my breeder somewhere near zoo negara,

talkin bout it, need to collect my eng budgies from him.

damn cute & tame eng budgies, yellow + green = lolipop colour. icon_idea.gif





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Lol. Do send me a PM after you've confirmed the price with your breeder. The cheaper the better. tongue.gif

At what age does a Budgie's growth stop?
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My tamed Cockatiel very attached to me and my son now. Every time it sees us, will demand to come out from its cage. Once we pat on its head and body, it will make soft sound. Very very tamed, I even took it up travel north with us last few days, it liked to see scenery through car window, quietly sat on my shoulder for hours to enjoy the journey.

Just one week it is with us, and now can see it had put on weight. Eat non-stop.
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Lol. Do send me a PM after you've confirmed the price with your breeder. The cheaper the better. tongue.gif

At what age does a Budgie's growth stop?
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will do bro.

good question, maybe 3yrs. donno.. my willy the yellow 1 is adult, bout 3yrs old.

my bluey the blue 1 is still growing 1 yrs plus


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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 6 2008, 12:44 AM)
My tamed Cockatiel very attached to me and my son now.  Every time it sees us, will demand to come out from its cage.  Once we pat on its head and body, it will make soft sound.  Very very tamed, I even took it up travel north with us last few days,  it liked to see scenery through car window, quietly sat on my shoulder for hours to enjoy the journey.

Just one week it is with us, and now can see it had put on weight.  Eat non-stop.
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good for u juztiny,

wat colour & how much you got it. care to pm me the price & breeder?

thinkin wanna keep a pair la. thumbup.gif

tiel is much more gentle

lovebirds more ganas,

buggies inbetween tiel & budgie,

just my observer / experience,



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Oh, that's an eye-opener, never knew that.

Okay then, will be awaiting your PM.

Do post some photos of your cage set-up if possible. A picture tells a thousand words!
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Oh, that's an eye-opener, never knew that.

Okay then, will be awaiting your PM.

Do post some photos of your cage set-up if possible. A picture tells a thousand words!
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trial n error la bro,

me still learning from the sifu,

metal bowl or those dog porcelain bowl wit deep dish n heavy will be good.

as for cage, try to give a bunglow if can afford, u still studying can understand la.

got money then only upgrade next time. i just 1 time till the cage get rusty.


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trial n error la bro,

me still learning from the sifu,

metal bowl or those dog porcelain bowl wit deep dish n heavy will be good.

as for cage, try to give a bunglow if can afford, u still studying can understand la.

got money then only upgrade next time. i just 1 time till the cage get rusty.
will try to upload some pic.

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Metal bowl for food and water, put on the floor of the cage? For birds which wings are clipped, if they jump down to the floor to bathe, how are they gonna get back up to their perch? They can't fly right with clipped wings. Man, I'm blur!
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QUOTE(liette` @ May 5 2008, 11:25 PM)
Michael, how much does your breeder charge for a tamed Common Budgie? I'm looking for Common Budgies as I've read they're smarter than their English counterparts and also have a higher life expectancy. smile.gif

Nice prophet, how old are you? Uncle ah? tongue.gif
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lol...I am younger than you loh. haha. Smart or not smart depends on the bird itself. And as stated, diet plays an important role. Feeding solely on seeds and you can expect to say goodbye to your birdie after 5 years.

Michael, did you take your English for shows?

And litte, you can always hang the cups and tubs using wires. And having a bird's wing clipped doesnt mean it cannot fly at all. Clipping the wings is like they will not fly too high but they can still flap their wings. It is very important that you only clip the first 6 feathers of the wing so as to retain their ability to fly. And budgies have powerful legs and beak. They will hop from perch to perch and beak serves as the third leg which mean they will use their beak to climb.

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Metal bowl for food and water, put on the floor of the cage? For birds which wings are clipped, if they jump down to the floor to bathe, how are they gonna get back up to their perch? They can't fly right with clipped wings. Man, I'm blur!
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metal or porcelian bowl for food on the base.
water u can get those water tumbler for birds & hang thru the cage,

try to sprinkle some water using those ironin cloth from a distance with mist style, not those sniper style ok.
clip wing also can jump or climb back to the perch la.

betta bath them with some sun light like evening time, easier for ur bird to dry.
make sure not too long under the sun n watch out for CAT!!!!!!!!!!!!


juztiny or anyone, care to post some cage set up?

i can only do it tmrw nite la since fetchin wife to work in the morning.

cheers!
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QUOTE(michael2wk @ May 6 2008, 12:12 AM)
metal or porcelian bowl for food on the base.
water u can get those water tumbler for birds & hang thru the cage,

try to sprinkle some water using those ironin cloth from a distance with mist style, not those sniper style ok.
clip wing also can jump or climb back to the perch la.

betta bath them with some sun light like evening time, easier for ur bird to dry.
make sure not too long under the sun n watch out for CAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
juztiny or anyone, care to post some cage set up?

i can only do it tmrw nite la since fetchin wife to work in the morning.

cheers!
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Oh, so bathing a bird = sprinkle water on them?

Really appreciate all the advices I've gotten here!

Seeds must be available 24/7? Vegetables too?
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one more thing, if you use water tumbler, remember to change the water everyday. Dont think that oh, theres still water, I will wait till tomorrow. And budgies like to make soup which means they will poop in the water.

Budgies do like to bath. But dont suddenly spray on them. They will be scared to death. LOL... Mist the surrounding first then slowly change the target to the birdies. For me, I will bath them whenever I like cause I use hair dryer to dry them up. LOL..And if you have a bath tub, you dont need to mist them so often.


liette, not sprinkle water la. Use the misting bottle. And dont be fool by the budgies. Even though they have finished eating the seeds, the husk will still remain in the feeding cup. So check the cup every other day and make sure it is filled with seeds, not just husk. Veges you can feed them every day or every other day. Depends on you. I sometimes feed them with bell pepper, sweet potato, choy sum, fruits and others. Varies their diet so they wont get bored.

And perhaps you will be tempted to buy the fortified or vitamin added seeds. IMHO, I think those so call fortified seeds are useless because the birds only eat the contents and will left the husk. Its not that they will lick the seed to get the vitamins. So the so-called seeds are really a total waste.

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QUOTE(prophet007 @ May 6 2008, 01:11 AM)
lol...I am younger than you loh. haha. Smart or not smart depends on the bird itself. And as stated, diet plays an important role. Feeding solely on seeds and you can expect to say goodbye to your birdie after 5 years.

Michael, did you take your English for shows?

And litte, you can always hang the cups and tubs using wires. And having a bird's wing clipped doesnt mean it cannot fly at all. Clipping the wings is like they will not fly too high but they can still flap their wings. It is very important that you only clip the first 6 feathers of the wing so as to retain their ability to fly. And budgies have powerful legs and beak. They will hop from perch to perch and beak serves as the third leg which mean they will use their beak to climb.
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no bird show la. here got this kinda show eh? didnt know.
once get back my willy will post the pic.

about the diet, give them some green vege, corn n etc,

protein, calsium n clean drinkin water also needed to take care beside TLC for your pets!

some cuttle fish bone or mineral block also good 4 them smile.gif




prophet already answer you bout the cage set up & clip wing part.


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one more thing, if you use water tumbler, remember to change the water everyday. Dont think that oh, theres still water, I will wait till tomorrow. And budgies like to make soup which means they will poop in the water.

Budgies do like to bath. But dont suddenly spray on them. They will be scared to death. LOL... Mist the surrounding first then slowly change the target to the birdies. For me, I will bath them whenever I like cause I use hair dryer to dry them up. LOL..And if you have a bath tub, you dont need to mist them so often.
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But if you use tumbler, they wont be able to poop in it right since tumbler = bottle?

Bath tub u mean a bowl of water at the base?

Food must be available at all times? <--nobody answer. sad.gif Mealworms can be fed?
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one more thing, if you use water tumbler, remember to change the water everyday. Dont think that oh, theres still water, I will wait till tomorrow. And budgies like to make soup which means they will poop in the water.

Budgies do like to bath. But dont suddenly spray on them. They will be scared to death. LOL... Mist the surrounding first then slowly change the target to the birdies. For me, I will bath them whenever I like cause I use hair dryer to dry them up. LOL..And if you have a bath tub, you dont need to mist them so often.
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forgot bout the last part on the spray, bout dont spray them suddenly.
too excited la.

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liette, refer to my post, the one before this. I editted something already. I doubt about mealworms as I didnt feed them any before.

Yes, cuttlebone is a must! It will help them get additional calcium and trim their beaks as well.

Well, for the tumbler, you dont know where they will be poop. Tumbler or not, change your water everyday.
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liette, refer to my post, the one before this. I editted something already. I doubt about mealworms as I didnt feed them any before.

Yes, cuttlebone is a must! It will help them get additional calcium and trim their beaks as well.

Well, for the tumbler, you dont know where they will be poop. Tumbler or not, change your water everyday.
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Wait. how does a bird bottle look like? Not the same as hamster bottle right? blink.gif

If i provide a big bowl of water on the base of the cage, it'll serve as a bath tub?

Yeah I know not sprinkle, wrong choice of word. Mist. smile.gif
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But if you use tumbler, they wont be able to poop in it right since tumbler = bottle?

Bath tub u mean a bowl of water at the base?

Food must be available at all times? <--nobody answer. sad.gif Mealworms can be fed?
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watr tumbler or water bowl or even the food bowl,
they will still poo inside 1 la. cant be toilet train 1 la.

food & water need to refill everyday. have to available 24/7 lo.
well for mealworm, u need to feed them wit carrot or something
nutricious for 3 to 4 day b4 feeding to your birds, u donno wat
the petshop feed & dont wanna know either, betta not feed them
with it, personal preference la. icon_rolleyes.gif
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LOL...Of course not hamster bottle loh. Will find you the pics.

Well, it depends. If the bird wanna drink from the water, then it is a water bowl. If they decided to play in it, then it is a bath tub. But I suspect the birds wont get into the water and play if it is placed on the floor as low ground means danger to budgies in the wild. Perhaps try somewhere higher? And make sure the bowl isnt too deep or else they can drown!
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blink.gif Enlightening.

How does a perfect bath tub look like? Seriously in need of pictures! Post pictures when you guys are free!
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Metal bowl for food and water, put on the floor of the cage? For birds which wings are clipped, if they jump down to the floor to bathe, how are they gonna get back up to their perch? They can't fly right with clipped wings. Man, I'm blur!
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Sweet, Juztiny. What is the blue tub at the base? Bath tub? and the other 2 white tubs? Food?
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No offence, but I do think the cage would be a bit small for cockatiel. It seems like it can even fly a bit. A good cage would means it has space for the bird to flap its wing and do some flying. Nonetheless, it is a nice cage.
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juztiny,

nice tiel,

izzit to small 4 the tiel,
during nite time they will flip their wing,
forgot wats the term for it.
nice set up thot!!!!!
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Sweet, Juztiny. What is the blue tub at the base? Bath tub? and the other 2 white tubs? Food?
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Blue tub is bath tub which I put in additional. 2 white ones (one for food and one for water).


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No offence, but I do think the cage would be a bit small for cockatiel. It seems like it can even fly a bit. A good cage would means it has space for the bird to flap its wing and do some flying. Nonetheless, it is a nice cage.
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Ya..I know its kind of small for it, but I was told that put it in small cage first, till it familiar with us then only transfer to bigger cage. After all most of the time it is not inside the cage.

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Thank youuu.

I'll proceed to buy the cage and other necessities after the the confirmation from michael's breeder.
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Better get a slightly bigger cage than the one in the picture. Budgie will feel stress if housed in a small cage.
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Okay, I know that more space, the better.
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i will try to snap 1 n post it,
hope my bluey not yet sleep smile.gif

juztiny,

no offend bout the cage k.

sharing is caring smile.gif
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i will try to snap 1 n post it,
hope my bluey not yet sleep smile.gif

juztiny,

no offend bout the cage k.

sharing is caring smile.gif
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No problem, I have 2 large cages like 2 ft x 1 ft x 1.5 ft, and also 3 fit x 2 ft x 3ft which are more suitable for love birds and Cockatiel on hand. I'm thinking of building an outdoor aviary when I moved to my new home this year end.
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here is my set up,
dont shoot me ok.

bluey is still awake.
so does my lovebirds smile.gif


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so so so cute rite my bluey rclxm9.gif

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guess all sleeping dy la.

hehehehe

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wow!! That is a nice colour!!! I also have the spiral hope but it kind of detached from the nut. lol...

By the way, where do you place your cage?

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No problem, I have 2 large cages like 2 ft x 1 ft x 1.5 ft, and also 3 fit x 2 ft x 3ft which are more suitable for love birds and Cockatiel on hand.  I'm thinking of building an outdoor aviary when I moved to my new home this year end.
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then can keep more birds!

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wow!! That is a nice colour!!! I also have the spiral hope but it kind of detached from the nut. lol...

By the way, where do you place your cage?
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it on the floor bro,

not eye level but when im home, he's freely wonder around the cage or climb up to the lovebirds cage to kacau them.
when he had enough of play time, will go back in to the cage. rclxub.gif


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Sure RM10 each bird regardless bird type?  Zoological bird shop told me sometime the license iincreased up to RM500, very much depending on season.  My sister told me she met someone paid bird license for RM500 in Sg Petani Bandaraya, he is operating a bird farm.
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ May 6 2008, 02:40 AM)
if from Perhilitan only rm 10, but now is very not that easy to get, unless u get cought by them, first u pay the saman then u pay the license rm10. that rm 500 is u pay to the person who sell his license.(makin money lo), coz they know we (new comer) can't get any license....
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hmmm.... just like AP shocking.gif


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guess all ZZZzzZZZZzzzz

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mann_kl bro morning,
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good morning to u michael2wk .
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not working tomorrow?
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sort of..
so should be ok la.
urself?

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not working tomorrow?
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How's your Dove? Also kena sapu by them?
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How's your Dove?  Also kena sapu by them?
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only left my murai cacing, merbah kampung, tekukur and my diamond doves........... cry.gif
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hi juztiny, good morning.
only left my murai cacing, merbah kampung, tekukur and my diamond doves........... cry.gif
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hope u can get back all bro.

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poor things..
hope u can get back all bro.
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hope so..... coz some of my shamas already start singing.
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The authority took away your Sharmas, I'm sure your Sharmas will be in trauma shock to the new environment. After you reclaiming them back, I think they will take a while to adjust back and sing for you again lo.

You didn't tell us how much is the saman you kena bayar. Sorry...being kepor..wanted to know and be prepared.
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yah how much is the saman bro.
need to prepare also la.

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Lalala. Michael no yet contact your breeder ah?
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Lalala. Michael no yet contact your breeder ah?
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Today I had transfered my Cockatiel to a bigger cage already.




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beautiful, can't wait to get my budgie. still reading up. is clipping wings an easy task? im readin it currently, seems complicating.
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Today I had transfered my Cockatiel to a bigger cage already.
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how much is the cage? go divides only hoot
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juztiny,

how much is the cage? go divides only hoot
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I bought this cage last year for RM45. Got divider in between one, but can be removed too.
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nobody bother bout me sad.gif my question
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Aiya..you can google it lah! You live in stone age??? sweat.gif

http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/clip.html
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Aiya..you can google it lah!  You live in stone age??? sweat.gif

http://www.exoticpetvet.net/avian/clip.html
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blink.gif tq. i think i did say that i'm reading bout it just now, just that, some things u see in reality, real life is easier to understand n less mistakes will be made.
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thanks alot. read it already. smile.gif nice new cage btw.
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morning,

so quiet 1?
no update?

my lovebirds got 5 eggs dy smile.gif
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morning,

so quiet 1?
no update?

my lovebirds got 5 eggs dy smile.gif
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Wow...congratulations! Since you have 5 eggs, can barter trade with me one chick later on? Because all 3 lovebird chicks I have are same colour peachfaced Lutino. I would love to have a different mutation colour one. Please......

I got my 3 lovebird chicks yesterday. Very young and lots of patience involved to hand feed those chicks though. The food receipe that seller introduced me not welcomed by the chicks, they don't want to eat even they are very hungry, ended up I have to rush out to consult nearby birdshop owner how to handfeed the chicks. Finally bought the Heinz brand babyfood and nestum, and the chicks are much easy to feed like that. Phew.... sweat.gif

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No eggs to see? biggrin.gif
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No eggs to see? biggrin.gif
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i've attached the egg pic,
look back the 1 or 2 more page.

btw now is 7 eggs!!!!!

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Wow...congratulations!  Since you have 5 eggs, can barter trade with me one chick later on?  Because all 3 lovebird chicks I have are same colour peachfaced Lutino.  I would love to have a different mutation colour one. Please......

I got my 3 lovebird chicks yesterday.  Very young and lots of patience involved to hand feed those chicks though.  The food receipe that seller introduced me not welcomed by the chicks, they don't want to eat even they are very hungry, ended up I have to rush out to consult nearby birdshop owner how to handfeed the chicks.  Finally bought the Heinz brand babyfood and nestum, and the chicks are much easy to feed like that.  Phew.... sweat.gif
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congrat on the 3 lovebird chicks juztiny,
we will see how many hatches this round n maybe we will do some barter

me still not pro & got time to hand feed the chicks la. really notworthy.gif u la.

hope all chicks is healthy n kickin juztiny thumbup.gif

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congrat on the 3 lovebird chicks juztiny,
we will see how many hatches this round n maybe we will do some barter

me still not pro & got time to hand feed the chicks la. really  notworthy.gif u la.

hope all chicks is healthy n kickin juztiny  thumbup.gif
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Here is my 3 lovebird chicks picture. One is slightly elder than the other 2. The elder one is able to walk a bit as compared to 2 days ago.

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wow! they are so lovely!! When will they be fully feathered?
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wow! they are so lovely!! When will they be fully feathered?
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They look so vulnerable. How old are they again? 2 weeks?
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They look so vulnerable. How old are they again? 2 weeks?
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Elder one is 2 weeks, younger 2 are less than 2 weeks. But I remembered most of the internet sites mentioned that lovebirds are quite hardy, so should be not so vulnerable as compared to other type of chicks. They will survive for sure, now they are very lively. Another birdshop owner told me to feed cat-food or dog-food, because higher protein can make them grow very fast. So I'm feeding them all 2 birdshops recommended receipes (Heinz babyfood + nestum + dogfood).
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What kind of this eagle?
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What kind of this eagle?
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Is it your pet? Where did you get it? Looks like an eagle chick tough! Wah, it's face looks fiece though.

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Is it your pet?  Where did you get it?  Looks like an eagle chick tough!
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Is baby eagle.. Leg injured. My grandpa picked him from forest i think if i not wrong.
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Is baby eagle.. Leg injured. My grandpa picked him from forest i think if i not wrong.
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Did it survive? So your Grandpa release it back to forest already? Or keep it as pet now? Hard to keep eagle as pet I guess, unless you lived near ulu area, nobody bothers.


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That eagle is one magnificent looking bird.
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 11 2008, 02:01 AM)
Did it survive?  So your Grandpa release it back to forest already? Or keep it as pet now?  Hard to keep eagle as pet I guess, unless you lived near ulu area, nobody bothers.
If in urban area, sure neighbour will complain.
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Not fully recover yet.. So my grandpa feed it for now. Everyday eat meat. Once recover, will send it back to forest.
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To share some pictures of the Pekin Robin and Mata Puteh. Till today my Pekin Robin still don't want to sing even I played the sound I record from the birdshop. When I bought him that time he was singing in the birdshop though. Mata Puteh do call some short note everyday. It has a tiny body size but can really eat a lot food/veg.

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 11 2008, 01:33 AM)
Here is my 3 lovebird chicks picture.  One is slightly elder than the other 2.  The elder one is able to walk a bit as compared to 2 days ago.
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nice..
red head chicks there!!!
all sure will be red eye 1 i guess.
maybe 3 weeks will be full feather.
puppy or kitten food u feedin rite?
wish u all the luck to raise them rclxms.gif

if my eggs hatch then will ask u to teach me more, can?

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was wondering if its possible to tame birds like java sparrows , merbahs and such? in short, birds not from the parrot family.
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QUOTE(liette` @ May 11 2008, 02:10 AM)
was wondering if its possible to tame birds like java sparrows , merbahs and such? in short, birds not from the parrot family.
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Not easy to tame I believed. Even my Shama & Magpie are tamed, they will not be as tamed as my Cockatiel. At most they will come forward to me when I feed them mealworm or cricket form my hand. The Pekin Robin and Mateh Puteh are not tamed at all, very difficult to calm them down even I just want to change the water or add food into their cage, they will be panicked and flying here & there banged the cage till bleed near nose area. In order not to let them injured further, I try not to get too close to their cage. Like that even harder to get them familiar with us with short period of time.
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QUOTE(michael2wk @ May 11 2008, 01:37 AM)
nice..
red head chicks there!!!
all sure will be red eye 1 i guess.
maybe 3 weeks will be full feather.
puppy or kitten food u feedin rite?
wish u all the luck to raise them  rclxms.gif

if my eggs hatch then will ask u to teach me more, can?
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Sure can share with you my experience if I succeed.
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 11 2008, 02:20 AM)
To share some pictures of the Pekin Robin and Mata Puteh.  Till today my Pekin Robin still don't want to sing even I played the sound I record from the birdshop.  When I bought him that time he was singing in the birdshop though.  Mata Puteh do call some short note everyday.  It has a tiny body size but can really eat a lot food/veg.
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Where did u get it?
i Love pekin robin
Love its flip, song..
everything
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QUOTE(adioz88 @ May 11 2008, 04:02 PM)
Where did u get it?
i Love pekin robin
Love its flip, song..
everything
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I bought it in Sg. Petani, Kedah. Not easy to find these days, especially recent outbreak of birdflu in overseas. There were 2 birds there, but I saw this one singing and the other one didn't. It is very colourful and good looking bird.
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hi, biggrin.gif
why so quiet these few days?
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ May 13 2008, 12:12 AM)
hi, biggrin.gif
why so quiet these few days?
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Waiting for you to update your birds status lor....Collected back your birds already?
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 13 2008, 12:17 AM)
Waiting for you to update your birds status lor....Collected back your birds already?
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at last someone is here rclxms.gif ,

actually i just came back from Laos yesterday, so i called up today but he's busy, will meet him tomorrow. hopefully everythings smooth la sweat.gif
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QUOTE(mann_kl @ May 13 2008, 12:23 AM)
at last someone is here rclxms.gif ,

actually i just came back from Laos yesterday, so i called up today but he's busy, will meet him tomorrow. hopefully everythings smooth la  sweat.gif
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Hope everything goes well for you then.

This morning found out that my Sharma died. cry.gif I noticed that it has not been eating its food pellet for last 2-3 days, just waiting for us to feed him mealworms. We did feed it, but not much, trying to encourage it to eat its own food pellets. But apparently it is very stiff neck. Because I noticed its shit only white waste and little waste like worm looking, not the same as my Magpies for the past 3-4 days. Sigh.......looks like Sharma very hard and difficult to keep. sad.gif

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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 13 2008, 10:16 AM)
Hope everything goes well for you then.

This morning found out that my Sharma died.  cry.gif I noticed that it has not been eating its food pellet for last 2-3 days, just waiting for us to feed him mealworms.  We did feed it, but not much, trying to encourage it to eat its own food pellets.  But apparently it is very stiff neck.  Because I noticed its shit only white waste and little waste like worm looking, not the same as my Magpies for the past 3-4 days.  Sigh.......looks like Sharma very hard and difficult to keep.  sad.gif
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u didn't chop the mealworms and mixed with the pallet?
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i'm so sorry for your lost cry.gif

u didn't chop the mealworms and mixed with the pallet?
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No..I didn't chop the mealworms, I hand fed him directly.
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wonder is that a good sign or bad or nothing to do when a bird fly in to my house...
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QUOTE(Juztiny @ May 13 2008, 06:43 PM)
No..I didn't chop the mealworms, I hand fed him directly.
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past is past. but i'm just queerest how can it died of hunger, and what i know your shama is not wild cought, it's home breed from small. it shoudn't got any problem of the pallet. only wild cought can't fix them self with pallet untill been trained.


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QUOTE(ky8 @ May 13 2008, 07:56 PM)
wonder is that a good sign or bad or nothing to do when a bird fly in to my house...
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what kind of bird? sparrow?

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[quote=mann_kl,May 13 2008, 07:56 PM]
past is past. but i'm just queerest how can it died of hunger, and what i know your shama is not wild cought, it's home breed from small. it shoudn't got any problem of the pallet. only wild cought can't fix them self with pallet untill been trained.

In short, she lost a good bird there!!! This is a potential young shama!!! Sigh, so "sayang" la... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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i had 2 budgies... both of them fit themselves below their cage and flew away... how sad....
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QUOTE(orangecow @ May 13 2008, 09:23 PM)
i had 2 budgies... both of them fit themselves below their cage and flew away... how sad....
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for thoese who keep all kinds of parrot family, it is important to keep their cage lock safely. luckyly yours flew away, i heard some were eaten by rat. blink.gif
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quiet day eh?

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quiet day eh?
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quiet..........qiet................. cry.gif
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quiet..........qiet................. cry.gif
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got all ur birds back?
hope all alright.
chat later k.
me goin makan,
gonna conti work late tonite.
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QUOTE(michael2wk @ May 14 2008, 08:41 PM)
wats wrong bro?
got all ur birds back?
hope all alright.
chat later k.
me goin makan,
gonna conti work late tonite.
ttyl biggrin.gif
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I went to several pet stores and the price for a decent cage surpasses a hundred. Those around RM50 are terribly small and not big enough lengthwise. =/
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so when will you be getting ur first birdie?
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According to michael, the birds would be ready by the end of the month.
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QUOTE(liette` @ May 14 2008, 10:34 PM)
I went to several pet stores and the price for a decent cage surpasses a hundred. Those around RM50 are terribly small and not big enough lengthwise. =/
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Recently a lot of cage increased price already. Last time I bought my 3' x 3' x 2' cage around RM70. Now I saw on other shops around RM120.
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I'll continue hunting then till I find a reasonable one.
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guess thats the normal price for cages nowadays. lucky i bought mine few years back. haha. and remember, you should get a long cage, not a tall one.
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ May 15 2008, 12:51 AM)
guess thats the normal price for cages nowadays. lucky i bought mine few years back. haha. and remember, you should get a long cage, not a tall one.
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All my lovebird chicks getting stronger each day. The elder one now learning to fly, and learn to eat the seed, but of course we still need to handfeed it, because its beak not strong to break the seed yet. Actually what a valuable experience to gain in owning young chicks and hand feeding them.

My Cockatiel is getting demanding, always want to come out from its cage and be close to me. Every time he/she hear my voice around the house, will scream for attention. Like a naughty kid, quite fun but sometimes busy that time will find it a nuisance. tongue.gif What a relief, finally today my Cockatiel is willing to eat a small piece of wholemeal biscuit and little bit of noodle. All this while it only picks on small seeds but nothing else. If the small seeds running out left with other type of seeds, it will scream non-stop for attention. Surrender to him. rclxub.gif

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Sounds like you've got yourself a pretty fun bird. tongue.gif Demanding but nonetheless, fun.
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wow! what a attitude problem cockatiel! LOL... Maybe you should try ignore him so that he will behave better. Cause it seems he is controlling you. haha.

so envious you can get so close with your birdie. One of my budgies died few days back. I think it was fighting problem. One eye was gone, the cere was a bit bloody and the neck bone broken, making the whole head swing. Damn sad lor.
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ May 15 2008, 01:29 AM)
wow! what a attitude problem cockatiel! LOL... Maybe you should try ignore him so that he will behave better. Cause it seems he is controlling you. haha.

so envious you can get so close with your birdie. One of my budgies died few days back. I think it was fighting problem. One eye was gone, the cere was a bit bloody and the neck bone broken, making the whole head swing. Damn sad lor.
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Wow..you meant Budgies fight among Budgies till severely injured like that? I didn't know Budgies can fight so fierce. Last time my 3 Budgies (2 female and 1 male), 2 females fight over one boyfriend, but luckily not like that lor....
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I dont even know if they were fighting. I wish it was fighting and not some cat problems. Cause last time I got a budgie which was severely injured by a cat until half of its wing was gone! He died later on. That was really horrible. The cats even rest on top of the bird cage.
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QUOTE(prophet007 @ May 15 2008, 01:41 AM)
I dont even know if they were fighting. I wish it was fighting and not some cat problems. Cause last time I got a budgie which was severely injured by a cat until half of its wing was gone! He died later on. That was really horrible. The cats even rest on top of the bird cage.
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Ya...I hate cats, they are very sly! Last time one neighbour's cat dared to come from the roof top and use its paw to disturb my bird cage. I hanged my bird cage near roof cutter, luckily I heard my birds' wings flapping non stopped, and went out to investigate and found that cat is disturbing my bird cage. And I have dogs in my compound some more, the dogs can't help to chase the cat, as it was on the roof.

Ever since I put my bird cages where no cats dared to come in to disturb any more.
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sometimes my birds will scream very loudly to attract attention. I once pour water on the cat and it never come back for a long time. But after a few months, they tend to forgot their lessons. haha

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