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 Titan Adjustable Suspension Very Bumpy, FIXEd By Changing To FTUNED RACING

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post Feb 23 2014, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 23 2014, 01:40 AM)
missed out bolding the 2 keywords: ah beng
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well... whenever requirement for good cornering and comfort turns up together... it's a recipe for disaster...

good cornering is a very loose term and telling that to the people setting up your shocks is a very vague description to them on what you want exactly, add on having comfort and it even baffles them more...

i doubt many if not all people rarely drive all their 4 wheels to the limits of adhesion... what we sometimes think is the upper limits of our car is very often not quite the truth, especially when you see some idiot with a sailboat having a disregard for his own life flying past you in a corner at unbelievable speeds...
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I should have seen it coming...what not with 1 1/2 fingers gap..thats ultra low...1 finger gap is only for show cars...to bring down so low, it is not possible to have comfort setting, but beg the question, how come the owner dont know the setting in the 1st place....anyway glad that its been clarified....
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post Feb 23 2014, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 23 2014, 02:40 AM)
missed out bolding the 2 keywords: ah beng
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you mean the engineers at bilstein are bunch of ah bengs? must be dem good ah bengs since their products allow teams to win races. hmm.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Feb 23 2014, 10:25 PM)
you mean the engineers at bilstein are bunch of ah bengs? must be dem good ah bengs since their products allow teams to win races. hmm.gif
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I mean ah beng will not buy Bilstein
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 24 2014, 12:07 AM)
I mean ah beng will not buy Bilstein
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Ah beng buy bilstein sticker !
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post Feb 24 2014, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 24 2014, 12:29 AM)
Ah beng buy bilstein sticker !
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sticker alone +50 hp. why spent more to buy the real thing that don't add any horsepower laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 24 2014, 01:07 AM)
I mean ah beng will not buy Bilstein
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where got lah... ah beng dont even know what it is tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 24 2014, 01:46 AM)
sticker alone +50 hp. why spent more to buy the real thing that don't add any horsepower laugh.gif
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it's all in the mind...

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Feb 24 2014, 08:00 AM)
where got lah... ah beng dont even know what it is tongue.gif
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sure know stickers geh.

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post Mar 16 2014, 11:51 AM

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So dantei,
Gave up with your Titan? Selling them already?
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post Mar 16 2014, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Mar 16 2014, 11:51 AM)
So dantei,
Gave up with your Titan? Selling them already?
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this?
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REASON OF SELLING : NAK TUKAR ANGIN


thought resolved laugh.gif
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post Mar 16 2014, 02:44 PM

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So I guess TS didn't get what he paid for..
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post May 3 2014, 05:32 PM

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I would like to share my experience on the newly bought Titan Suspension. I am on a Honda, using Titan Comfort Series suspension. This is a custom made suspension, which they will immediately "build/fabricate" your suspension after you have made your selection e.g. choosing the Comfort series.

However, the tricky part is where the suspension suit into your need. Uncle Richard is the most technical and experienced guy there, so you SHOULD only talk to him on your requirement, rather than anyone else. This is because only he will understand what you want, the rest of the staffs well, are just so-so. They are salesmen or marketing men, or... just assembly men smile.gif Sorry to say, but yes, talk to Uncle Richard how you want your ride to be tuned.

As for my ride, the first impression after installing the Titan suspension was great because my Honda's stock struct is damaged, so I feel the difference after installing the Titan Suspension. However, the problem came after a few days where I hear some bearing sound ("cruk cruk") from the tyres, as if it's some damaged mounting or so. I took the car back to Titan Ampang to fix it. Apparently, that's the un-well setup of the suspension/faulty causing that sound. Uncle Richard took the responsibility to fix it. Great job.

The next week, after the fix, I noticed that the car is getting bumpier than the days before. I have tried to reduce the air pressure to a recommended measurement, increase it etc but that did not work. Then, I gave a call again to Uncle Richard. Again, he fixed it but re-tuning the struts. Today, I am trying that out and keep monitoring.

The bottom line is, it takes a couple of times to get the tuning you want, and of course, if you're unlucky like me bumping into "faulty" bearings, then you may somewhat get frustrated. However, if you have take the below precautions before you get those Titan suspension installed, probably that would reduce your frustrations.

1. Before installing the Titan Suspension, talk to Uncle Richard on your expectations and requirements
2. Titan have a few test drive cars, Wira/Persona/Satria Neo - all of them have their suspension tuned and if you tested those cars, well you will be amazed how well the suspension perform but don't expect you will get the same setup in your ride k. I bought into the idea of installing Titan Suspension after trying on their cars but didn't know that it performs out of my own expectations.
3. After testing their cars, tell Uncle Richard how you want your ride to be. E.g. less stiff than that car? Need stiffer than that car?
4. After your suspension is installed, test your car thoroughly. Don't just believe what the technicians have told you. Drive harsh, drive REAL slow, take corners, go on an uneven road slowly and hear if there are any unexpected sound from the suspension. If there is, get that rectified immediately. You will save a couple of rounds if you have rectified the sound/setup issue on the spot, instead of keep coming into the shop for re-tuning. Each time re-tuning, that would definitely take you 4 hours, at least.
5. Test your ride longer than you should. Drive further.

Good luck.

This post has been edited by guanteik: May 4 2014, 09:53 PM
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post May 6 2014, 05:34 AM

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QUOTE(overfloe @ Mar 16 2014, 11:51 AM)
So dantei,
Gave up with your Titan? Selling them already?
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Haha...Sold it already bro...

Here is some of 'Headache & Satisfaction Story From The Start Till The END'
I gave up with the suspension and luckily one of my friend who really wants to buy a set of coilover refuse to get the brand new GAS SS and proceed to get My Titan...

Luckily he understand me and got the titan from me at price of 1.7K instead of almost 2.9k I bought.
I told him if the ride isnt uncomfortable for him just send it to Titan HQ to resetup and he agreed with it.

So once dealed I make a full purchase of FTUNED RACING SUSPENSION with is a same 'Inverted Monotube' but its the 'Lotus Inverted Monotube' which every small to big components inside the coilovers are calculated with Lotus Formulation based on the (WEIGHT & PLATFORM) Of The Car.

The owner was a Ride & Handling Engineer (Group Leader) at Proton Research & Development, Chassis Engineering Section, Ride & Handling Unit and involved in various suspension development projects with Proton Engineers & Lotus Engineers. Trained by Lotus Engineering Engineers on Suspension & Chassis Development, Damper/Shock Absorber tuning and Advanced Driving Techniques. Last position at Proton, was the Group Leader for Ride & Handling team of Engineers and Technicians from 1999-2005. In Motorsports and Professional Driving, Mr. Farouk is a race driver and Instructor for Proton R&D Test Drivers. Participated in several race events, santioned and unsantioned races since 1996, including the Merdeka Millennium Endurance from the 1st MME in 2000 till the 4th MME in 2004 as race drivers and 2005 as Race Manager for a winning team. Out of passion, F Tuned Racing was formed.

The set of coilover are Hi-Lo and Adjustable Damping Hi-Lo Soft Hard.
The coilover are ready made set for my car and I choose (Road Touge Spec) which is comfortable for rough road usage and for tracking.
Even there are ready made stuff, the owner himself require me to leave the car for 2 days to make a setup that meet my expectation.
The reason of this is to get the setup that I want and SET the setup at the 'Maximum Soft Setting' of the 'Adjustable Damping Knob'.
Hence this would be the best and easier to the user to get into the setup that are most use in everyday usage incase of we were do alot of adjusting when we do some Touge / Tracking.

The spring rates of the setup now is 6K Front & 4K Rear with 2 Fingger Gap both Front & Rear.

Once done...I drove the car from smooth tarmac to high hill with bunch of holes...I was so surprise the ride quality is beyond what I expected.
The ride is very compose and balance on any surface of tarmac even with bunch of holes the absorption is very superb and its even comfy compare to the ride feels of Stock OEM Suspension when the car was new until the last moment i used it.
The steering feels is tight (Sportier Feels) on cornering as what I've felt on one of my friend BMW E46 330 Cabrio.
Steering responds is very sharp and fast.

RESULTED : Cant Say More...Conclusion is to be the right END.
-My dad who's person that enjoying his daily Comfy Big Merc Ride loves every bits of the comfy ride on my car now.
-ME...I'm smiling every bits of the excitement tackling corners with comfy rides without worrying the dashboard to come off.


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post May 6 2014, 11:07 AM

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what was the cost for the FTune specs.
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post May 6 2014, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ May 6 2014, 11:07 AM)
what was the cost for the FTune specs.
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A bit cheaper compare to Titan...
The highest price of custom made product from them for most continental / race / rare car model goes not exceed more than 4K...
The ready set coilover depends on cars models & platform range from 2-2.3K (Adjustable Height HILO) to
2.5-2.9K ( Adjustable Height & Damping HILO SOFT HARD)

The set of coilovers for my car goes for 2.9 same as Titan Price.

The Oil use by Ftuned inside of their Coilover are from Top Notch Quality Brand TORCO.
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QUOTE(guanteik @ May 3 2014, 05:32 PM)
I would like to share my experience on the newly bought Titan Suspension. I am on a Honda, using Titan Comfort Series suspension. This is a custom made suspension, which they will immediately "build/fabricate" your suspension after you have made your selection e.g. choosing the Comfort series.

However, the tricky part is where the suspension suit into your need. Uncle Richard is the most technical and experienced guy there, so you SHOULD only talk to him on your requirement, rather than anyone else. This is because only he will understand what you want, the rest of the staffs well, are just so-so. They are salesmen or marketing men, or... just assembly men smile.gif Sorry to say, but yes, talk to Uncle Richard how you want your ride to be tuned.

As for my ride, the first impression after installing the Titan suspension was great because my Honda's stock struct is damaged, so I feel the difference after installing the Titan Suspension. However, the problem came after a few days where I hear some bearing sound ("cruk cruk") from the tyres, as if it's some damaged mounting or so. I took the car back to Titan Ampang to fix it. Apparently, that's the un-well setup of the suspension/faulty causing that sound. Uncle Richard took the responsibility to fix it. Great job.

The next week, after the fix, I noticed that the car is getting bumpier than the days before. I have tried to reduce the air pressure to a recommended measurement, increase it etc but that did not work. Then,  I gave a call again to Uncle Richard. Again, he fixed it but re-tuning the struts. Today, I am trying that out and keep monitoring.

The bottom line is, it takes a couple of times to get the tuning you want, and of course, if you're unlucky like me bumping into "faulty" bearings, then you may somewhat get frustrated. However, if you have take the below precautions before you get those Titan suspension installed, probably that would reduce your frustrations.

1. Before installing the Titan Suspension, talk to Uncle Richard on your expectations and requirements
2. Titan have a few test drive cars, Wira/Persona/Satria Neo - all of them have their suspension tuned and if you tested those cars, well you will be amazed how well the suspension perform but don't expect you will get the same setup in your ride k. I bought into the idea of installing Titan Suspension after trying on their cars but didn't know that it performs out of my own expectations.
3. After testing their cars, tell Uncle Richard how you want your ride to be. E.g. less stiff than that car? Need stiffer than that car?
4. After your suspension is installed, test your car thoroughly. Don't just believe what the technicians have told you. Drive harsh, drive REAL slow, take corners, go on an uneven road slowly and hear if there are any unexpected sound from the suspension. If there is, get that rectified immediately. You will save a couple of rounds if you have rectified the sound/setup issue on the spot, instead of keep coming into the shop for re-tuning. Each time re-tuning, that would definitely take you 4 hours, at least.
5. Test your ride longer than you should. Drive further.

Good luck.
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I installed titan last year and to date, I have visited titan almost 10 times yet, still they could not solve my rear sound problem. Upon further investigation, found out that my spring and abs does not sit well. There were gaps. Uncle Richard took noticed and he rebuild my abs again and again. Still, it does not solve the problem.

It works well with my ride. I am on 8k 6k medium hard setup down from previous 9k 7k medium hard.
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QUOTE(dantei136 @ May 6 2014, 03:57 PM)
A bit cheaper compare to Titan...
The highest price of custom made product from them for most continental / race / rare car model goes not exceed more than 4K...
The ready set coilover depends on cars models & platform range from 2-2.3K (Adjustable Height HILO) to
2.5-2.9K ( Adjustable Height & Damping HILO SOFT HARD)

The set of coilovers for my car goes for 2.9 same as Titan Price.

The Oil use by Ftuned inside of their Coilover are from Top Notch Quality Brand TORCO.
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So, it takes a Potong engineer to fix a Honkdada car huh?
Got ask service one time how much RM2k per abs?
Labor fee?
Don't like Titan promise mat 7 service free for first few times then suddenly said need labor fee. Just like insurance said cover your wife pregnancy suddenly want berlabor time said no cover pulak!
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QUOTE(Pip_X @ May 6 2014, 05:00 PM)
So, it takes a Potong engineer to fix a Honkdada car huh?
Got ask service one time how much RM2k per abs?
Labor fee?
Don't like Titan promise mat 7 service free for first few times then suddenly said need labor fee. Just like insurance said cover your wife pregnancy suddenly want berlabor time said no cover pulak!
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Niameh pip...no black and white agreement is like that lor. sweat.gif sweat.gif

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