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 Titan Adjustable Suspension Very Bumpy, FIXEd By Changing To FTUNED RACING

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post Feb 19 2014, 03:36 PM

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im using IMP improve adjustable coil with high-low, soft-hard and body shifted, amazingly the ride still comfortable and not too bumpy if compare my previous GAB sport spring pair with stock absorber. i even lowered it half finger from fender, spring 6k rear and 8k front, superb handling and feel stiff during cornering

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post Feb 19 2014, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Feb 19 2014, 09:17 AM)
"I gave the car to them and I was given their persona that equip with their Titan Adjustable and I was suprise how comfy the ride is and the steering feedback while conerning is very impressive..."

even in stock condition persona is the best handling car in its class.  smile.gif
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i remember last time they had kancil as their demo car.. my friend's car cant follow the kancil in winding road while we were following behind..
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post Feb 20 2014, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(FrozenIce @ Feb 19 2014, 08:53 AM)
I have to clarify this case on behalf of Uncle Richard. I have spoken to Uncle Richard regarding about this issue yesterday. He told me that user Dantei136 came to Titan and insisted a setting which is lowered with firm ride and yet still have the comfortness with full load of passenger on the rear as he use the car to fetch family around.

Herman was the person in charge regarding about this issue. User has been advised to use absorbers only due to the lightweight of the car. User insisted for adjustable because want to look lowered. Uncle Richard tried his best to make the ride as soft as possible and yet doesn't let the suspension to be too soft to avoid bottom's up.

After installation, user complained that the suspension was too harsh and wanted to be soften more. Wailoong came in to the picture and advice him to use stock spring for more comfort as the sport spring couldnt match the softness of the suspension.

After the stock spring installation, the ride height was raised up as you can understand the stock spring is to support the weight of the car and plus titan suspension the ride will go higher. Uncle Richard had tried his best adjust to what he need.

So guys please do comment on this case as I don't want any misunderstand regarding about Titan brand.
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Yes bro I did told them that I want coilover setup which is lowered with firm ride and yet still have the comfortness for at least 2 person...
NOT 'FULL LOAD' AND I'VE NEVER MENTIONED FULL LOAD...
Beside I travel IPOH-KL Weekly ALONE...

I've seen and ride most of my friends car with 2 finger gap and 2.5 finger which same as my setup tackling corners around highway without any rub on fender and tyre...and still can feel firm and comfy and most of all not harsh and bumpy
Beside most of them use some full coilover brands such as GAB, HWL, BC RACING, IMP, KYB and Even a FAKE D2 and FAKE MINES brand...

I do respect TITAN brands and I know and still believe that TITAN can do and perform much better than those brand mentioned above...
But what makes you said that you cant maintain the ride height because of rubbing issue between tyres and fender while cornering ?
Even a stock jazz ABS with ONLY TIEN Spring with 2 finger gap of for both front & rear perform well without any rubbing issues as tested around hard cornering in highway...

All I want is just not to feel 'regrets' with my choice TITAN...

Bro I'm not writing this to bash your product or service...
I need some good and useful opinions of all those other Titan User...
Until now I never ever say or think that your product is not good...Yet I'm finding some answer for the solution and solution for my situation...and still hopping that Im not making a wrong decision with this product...
Im just a customer who wants a peace both myself and your product.

This post has been edited by dantei136: Feb 20 2014, 12:24 AM
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post Feb 20 2014, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:24 PM)
i remember last time they had kancil as their demo car.. my friend's car cant follow the kancil in winding road while we were following behind..
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kancil/kelisa did a good job in handling due to small frame n chassis. tongue.gif
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post Feb 20 2014, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(dantei136 @ Feb 20 2014, 12:20 AM)
Yes bro I did told them that I want coilover setup which is lowered with firm ride and yet still have the comfortness for at least 2 person...
NOT 'FULL LOAD' AND I'VE NEVER MENTIONED FULL LOAD...
Beside I travel IPOH-KL Weekly ALONE...

I've seen and ride most of my friends car with 2 finger gap and 2.5 finger which same as my setup tackling corners around highway without any rub on fender and tyre...and still can feel firm and comfy and most of all not harsh and bumpy
Beside most of them use some full coilover brands such as GAB, HWL, BC RACING, IMP, KYB and Even a FAKE D2 and FAKE MINES brand...

I do respect TITAN brands and I know and still believe that TITAN can do and perform much better than those brand mentioned above...
But what makes you said that you cant maintain the ride height because of rubbing issue between tyres and fender while cornering ?
Even a stock jazz ABS with ONLY TIEN Spring with 2 finger gap of for both front & rear perform well without any rubbing issues as tested around hard cornering in highway...

All I want is just not to feel 'regrets' with my choice TITAN...

Bro I'm not writing this to bash your product or service...
I need some good and useful opinions of all those other Titan User...
Until now I never ever say or think that your product is not good...Yet I'm finding some answer for the solution and solution for my situation...and still hopping that Im not making a wrong decision with this product...
Im just a customer who wants a peace both myself and your product.
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Bro I'm not saying that you are bashing the product or services. I'm here to clarify things as I'm represent Uncle Richard regarding about this issue. I'm here to assist you and provide solution because you are unsatisfied with the result of the product.

Regarding about full load issue, I'm not there thats why i cant say anything base on what both party told me. I'm just referring to what uncle told me. And if i'm not mistaken Wailoong or Herman already advised you not to get the adjustable but you insisted want the adjustable thats why they proceed.

FYI, those brand you mentioned above is already factory tuned and it cant be customized unless you take to revalve which will void warranty. The reason why I said cant maintain the ride height is because of stock spring is hard enough to support the car weight and plus our suspension it will make the car even higher. Reason why customer look for our product is our product can be harder than those normal coilover sell outside the market. The solution I've provided you in PM and hope you will understand the concept of how our suspension works.
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post Feb 20 2014, 12:17 PM

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no wonder my nissan cube last time had the best of both comfort and handling...
i was not using the full coilovers... just the normal titan abs...
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post Feb 20 2014, 05:30 PM

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its adjustable so adjust ler bro.. get the settings that suite you best

dn be lazy
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post Feb 20 2014, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(Mr_47 @ Feb 20 2014, 05:30 PM)
its adjustable so adjust ler bro.. get the settings that suite you best

dn be lazy
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Not that easy bro. Titan is not adjusted by turning a knob. U need their staff to take off the absorber and change some component inside. Only Richard can do it.
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post Feb 20 2014, 06:33 PM

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ah beng wants performance and same time wants comfort......good luck with that....

myself, I prefer sports bumpy cars than cars with stock shocks....better steering control and good at cornering.......comfort is secondary.... ;-)
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post Feb 20 2014, 09:29 PM

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Adjustable is never comfort...whether the ride is harsh or acceptable depends on butt feel...very individual, i got mine customize at PRS another specialist, the boss advise not to go for adjstble if its a daily driven car, and certainly not for family man..of course you have certain cases where some can accept the firmness of an adjstble, but the very thought that i have to adjust it from time to time due to the setting might run, considering the hassle...its a no no for me...
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post Feb 21 2014, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(abundai @ Feb 19 2014, 12:02 PM)
titan mech told me that, but i didnt believe it either...
so i insist them to change my rear spring back to standard (thinking it was softer than my Espelir lowered springs)....
had to admit, i was wrong
the ride was higher, plus harder that i had to ask them to reinstall the lowered spring ..

maybe not true for ALL cars, but i bet titan mech was speaking from experience dealing with lotsa diff cars..
so i do believe in them in some ways...
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from what i know. that is due to u compressed the stock spring end up the stock spring more bumpy.
if u adjust the height as original spring should, u will get softer. provided your shock can adjust so far or not which mostly imposible.
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post Feb 21 2014, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(pakdamek @ Feb 20 2014, 06:33 PM)
ah beng wants performance and same time wants comfort......good luck with that....

myself, I prefer sports bumpy cars than cars with stock shocks....better steering control and good at cornering.......comfort is secondary.... ;-)
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there's one brand that can do this well - BILSTEIN

u don't need adjustables for good cornering, just need well engineered normal absorbers with stock springs to have both comfort and cornering.

also, it's well worth the money (because it's very expensive)

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Feb 21 2014, 02:08 PM)
there's one brand that can do this well - BILSTEIN
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there are plenty more.. unfortunately many ricers say stiffer is always better, and often think ride comfort and handling are mutually exclusive.

there are good adjustables and there are bad adjustables. never in between.. and normally ppl will say "you get what you pay for", but for suspension, if you buy cheap adjustables, you don't get what you pay for (at least for me).



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QUOTE(overfloe @ Feb 21 2014, 02:43 PM)
there are plenty more.. unfortunately many ricers say stiffer is always better, and often think ride comfort and handling are mutually exclusive.

there are good adjustables and there are bad adjustables. never in between.. and normally ppl will say "you get what you pay for", but for suspension, if you buy cheap adjustables, you don't get what you pay for (at least for me).
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been down that road before when i'm young. now cannot tahan the stiffness anymore, getting old......

after getting my BMW with those amazing Bilstein dampers, it's the perfect setup for my age...and my style of cornering
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post Feb 21 2014, 09:19 PM

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Hi Guys...
Im back for reporting of good news that I've got...
Yesterday I was called by Them (Patrick , Wailong & Herman).
So I went there at about 10.35AM I Arrived...
There was only him at the moment ad Wailong and Mr Richard is out for breakfast...

Once Arrived I met with Herman a person Who's incharge for me since day one I step my foot to Titan HQ for installing it on my GE8...

So we have some of discussion, at first were discuss regarding a knocking that appear on the front right side.
We didnt bother about the ride issue I've got as our goal were more on the sound issue...

Well after we went thru some explanation to each other for the ride I proceed the car to them to sattle with the knocking...
Once sattle he'll proceed with the ride tuning.

So I left the car to him and I went back home.
At about 3.50 I got a called from Herman to get to him for testing the car.
I was asking to soften the front setup at least 10% while the rear setup was already softer to 15% last week the day I wrote this thread...

So every was done I arrived there and I was first saw Wailong face...
I was a bit like ( tak sampai hati la) with the way I wrote to this thread like making a harsh complained but he still smile at me while waiting me to reach him so that we could discuss more of the setup that he himsilf, herman & Mr Richard...
By the time the knocking sound was done.

So the setup on the front was soften at least 10 percent but maintaing the current ride height...
But Wailong and Herman did notified me that the front will have rub issue while tackle corner before they gave me to test the ride...
There was also one of customer (ANIL) who I know since our 2nd tuning joining with me for a test ride as he came to reduce his sentra front spring rates .

He did also said that i'll rub the fender & tyres.
So we test the ride on a slight uphill road that a bit of beralun and I try and fast as possible taking a fast corner and suddenly as what the expected (Wailong, Herman, Mr Richard and even Anil)...
It was rubbing all the when taking the hard corner without breaking.

I retured to the base (Titan) and i doubled confirm with them with rub...
So I was suggested by Herman, Wailong and Anil to raise a bit the ride height and I asked them why cant you guy make a setup that is 2 finger gap without harsh ride quality and without rubbing and they told me that the current ride height was was 1.5 finger gap...
I was shocked that time and I walked to my car and placed my 2 finger on the gap...and It was tight to enter my 2 finger...

SO HERE I WAS THE ONE WHO WAS WRONG WITH THE GAB MEASUREMENT.

IT WAS TRUE THAT IT WAS 1.5 AS WHAT THEY TOLD ME EARLIER...

So I and herman did laugh on my stupidity...Haha

So I agreed with them and proceed the setup they suggested.
Once complete they told me to get a test on highway.
I drove the car and entered mrr2 but unfortunately it was already quite heavy traffic...

I didnt get a chance to feel the ride with 2 inch gap front and rear...
So I returned to Titan but both Herman & Wailong was out already...
It was already late evening so I returned home but I doubt about the feeling of the ride as I drove my GF CAR KIA POTATO (PICANTO LER) with a boat suspension and I feels I'm high as the suspension is really floating HAHAHAH...
So I cant tell whats the feel of in my car with new setup...

I returned home without paying any even its already 4th time tuning and even Herman did whatsapp me early in the morning today asking about the ride feel...and he dont even tell me to pay...

Today I went to them again for tighten up the mounting on the rear suspension as it tends to make knock sound because according tp Mr Richard the the mounting suspension of my car only have 1 screw with a shape of mounting of 'Kuih Talam' and its not a good as other suspension
mounting it other car.

Wailong just now even detect a knock sound for me that I've didnt notice before and he did told me to change my engine mounting.
It was only appear when we hit big or harsh potholes.

I just told him to detect the knocking sound from suspension mounting yet he discover more than I imagine in order to let my ride free of unwanted sound.
But Im ok with that as long as there is no issues or sound come from the shock.
Still he never asked me to pay for the setup yesterday...
Even Anil told me that Wailong refused to charge...

Now Im writing this to report that the ride quality is start to develop on me and while I drove back home just now from titan and I enjoy how well the shock compress all the uneven road and once i reached home I stup my engine off opened my door and I said
'IT DOES FEEL LIKE IM NOT USING ADJUSTABLE' but FEELS LIKE ONLY USE SPORT SPRING BUT TAKING CORNERS LIKE HAVING ADJUSTABLE

After a long journey with this setup...
Probably the 1st fully adjustable i'VE EVER OWN and IT ALSO DOES PROVE TO ME THAT ITS THE BEST ADJUSTABLE I'VE EVER USE BESIDE KONI WHICH WAS SEMI ADJUSTABLE...

ITS YET THE BEST AND COMFY ADJUSTABLE I HAVE...

THANKS EVERYONE AND BIG THANKS TO TITAN ESPECIALLY PATRIC (FrozenIce) WHO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE TO TITAN...HERMAN WHO'S ALWAYS WITH ME INCHARGE OF ANY PROBLEM I'VE GOT AND WAILONG WHO IS ALWAYS HELP ME IN TECHNICAL PROBLEM AND INSIST ME OF HOW TO GET THE BEST SETUP THAT SUIT ME AND THE CAR...
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so shakehead.gif ... after 3 pages blink.gif ... apparently it's a communication problem doh.gif ... much like with everything else in this world thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Feb 19 2014, 11:24 PM)
i remember last time they had kancil as their demo car.. my friend's car cant follow the kancil in winding road while we were following behind..
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tat kancil is highly tuned by them ler.. wat u expect...

and got every bar you can expect fitted into it biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(stormlcc @ Feb 21 2014, 01:08 PM)
there's one brand that can do this well - BILSTEIN

u don't need adjustables for good cornering, just need well engineered normal absorbers with stock springs to have both comfort and cornering.

also, it's well worth the money (because it's very expensive)
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missed out bolding the 2 keywords: ah beng
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QUOTE(butthead @ Feb 21 2014, 10:54 PM)
so  shakehead.gif ... after 3 pages  blink.gif ... apparently it's a communication problem  doh.gif ... much like with everything else in this world  thumbup.gif
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thinking the same too lol

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