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post Jul 22 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(slap2begin @ Jul 22 2015, 01:32 PM)
Thanks for the explaination..but what about skybox? Is it same as android box?
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You are much welcome. Skybox? Can you post a link to the box.
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post Jul 22 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 22 2015, 01:40 PM)
You are much welcome. Skybox? Can you post a link to the box.
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post Jul 22 2015, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(slap2begin @ Jul 22 2015, 01:51 PM)
Oh I see. Having never used or know anyone who does. After some light reading around, I wouldn't recommend it at all. See if you can find a seller, you will get more specific info from them.
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post Jul 22 2015, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(xngjn @ Jul 10 2015, 05:34 PM)
I cant play http://tvapp.so/ on my windows 7 and Samsung note 3.
It just keep on loading after I select the channel.
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Just tried this, can't play on Xioami Mi 3, same like your case, keeps loading after select channel.
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post Jul 22 2015, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(vergas @ Jul 22 2015, 02:44 PM)
Just tried this, can't play on Xioami Mi 3, same like your case, keeps loading after select channel.
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this tvapp.so is tricky...

v1.1.5 is working on my android very well, very smooth.

some users of the same android model say can't get it.

i hv no idea why. hmm.gif


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post Jul 22 2015, 03:24 PM

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any Himedia Q3 user? any pros and cons? BTW, can the android box output to home theater system?
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post Jul 22 2015, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(brutalsoul @ Jul 22 2015, 03:24 PM)
any Himedia Q3 user? any pros and cons? BTW, can the android box output to home theater system?
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if himedia, i advise u to get Q16 quadcore.
more expensive but worth it all round.
more impt, it is a very popular model, easy to find help later for firmwares, apps, etc.
this model can output the highest video audio playback - 4k, dtshdma, dolby digital atmos.

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post Jul 22 2015, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 22 2015, 01:11 PM)
Please do not be misled. An android box cannot simply replace your Astro box n plans cuz they don't work the same way. If you want ease of use? Stick to your Astro package. If you want LOTS of tweaking and messing around with installation files, xmls, some codes here n there, then get an android box.  A decent android box is just that, a box capable of running android apps. Will all apps work smoothly on it or all channels available 24/7? Nope! If you don't mind the above, then yeah, get a box. They are a great replacement. Buy a reputable box with support, minimum specs include a quad core CPU, 2GB ram & 16GB ROM for best results. Also bear in mind that even those myiptv or myhdtv or whatever not so legal paid subscriptions can fail at any time. No warranty/guarantees involved.

SOS: Cable cutter for almost 5 years now... nod.gif
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this is totally nonsense, u dont need to mess up with anything to use android box. Android box works like any your android phones, all apps can easily install either via apk or google play store. Plus most android box on the market usually already come pre-installed with streaming apps and kodi so you can start using out of the box. But for sure it is better to get reputable brand like minix and hi media because they always update their firmware and they have their own launcher for easy use with their remote and work better as media center
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QUOTE(slap2begin @ Jul 22 2015, 10:39 AM)
Can androiid box  get channel from astro too? I would like terminate astro and buy android box..astro too expensive..already subsribe for 10years for astro..its time to change..
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QUOTE(slap2begin @ Jul 22 2015, 01:32 PM)
Thanks for the explaination..but what about skybox? Is it same as android box?
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Yes u can get astro channel with android box but u need to subscribe and use certain apps. But there are a few con watching astro this app :
1. Quality cant beat astro because u actually streaming the content.
2. There is no option to change subtitle or audio.
3. There is no EPG or info on the show that you watch
4. It lags a few minutes compared to astro.

Pro :
1. You can watch most of the channel with a very cheap monthly subscription.


Sky Box on the other hand works exactly like Astro, so u still need to use your astro satellite. The con, you cannot get the HD channel and the server is more
likely to go down and scramble usually happen when you change the channel.
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post Jul 22 2015, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Jul 22 2015, 05:44 PM)
Yes u can get astro channel with android box but u need to subscribe and use certain apps. But there are a few con watching astro this app :
1. Quality cant beat astro because u actually streaming the content.
2. There is no option to change subtitle or audio.
3. There is no EPG or info on the show that you watch
4. It lags a few minutes compared to astro.

Pro :
1. You can watch most of the channel with a very cheap monthly subscription.
Sky Box on the other hand works exactly like Astro, so u still need to use your astro satellite. The con, you cannot get the HD channel and the server is more
likely to go down and scramble usually happen when you change the channel.
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Can you recommend me what is the best android tv box ? Cause i look too many brand and seller...so i dont know which one to choose..

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post Jul 22 2015, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Jul 22 2015, 05:37 PM)
this is totally nonsense, u dont need to mess up with anything to use android box. Android box works like any your android phones, all apps can easily install either via apk or google play store. Plus most android box on the market usually already come pre-installed with streaming apps and kodi so you can start using out of the box. But for sure it is better to get reputable brand like minix and hi media because they always update their firmware and they have their own launcher for easy use with their remote and work better as media center
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Nonsense? You don't simply assume that everyone knows how to properly fix up an android box. Sure, you can install apps from the play store & stop there, but i can tell you, most don't even know how to side-load an apk. Heck, probably don't even know what an apk means. Setting up say Kodi to nearly replace an Astro set top box is no where near as simple as installing from the marketplace and tapping the icon. Also, most boxes contain OTA firmware updates, but what happens when said firmware is problematic and or crashes the box upon update and you have to restore using a PC? Or he encounters a boot loop and needs to flash a custom recovery to backup apps, restore firmwares and pull apps + data from the backup. Yeah, you think everyone can do that? I simply let him realize what the majority of the populace don't realize before buying an android box (ending up blaming the seller or hardware). Its not a Hypptv/Astro box that auto-updates its firmware, channels and EPG data, if you encounter issues, then you call tech support to come replace the box for free. A good android box is great while it works but some day you'll require REAL hands-on.


QUOTE(slap2begin @ Jul 22 2015, 08:59 PM)
Can you recommend me what is the best android tv box ? Cause i look too many brand and seller...so i dont know which one to choose..
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There are a few out there. E.g. Minix, Amazon Fire TV, HiMedia, Wetek, Nvidia Shield TV, Tronsmart, Ugoos, etc. Seeking out the best depends on your needs and budget. So what are your needs & budget? If it's mostly streaming live TV through KODI and the occasional IPTV app, then I'd recommend the recent Minix models like the X8-H Plus or say an RPI 2 (Cheaper but not an android box). Do your require Netflix with full 1080P and 4K support? Get the Nvidia Shield box. For 1080P Netflix, the Amazon Fire TV should do just fine.

Edit: Your home internet speed is also very important to smooth streaming especially for high bit-rate full HD content or live Tv streaming. Now while 5 Mbps might be sufficient for some streams, its hardly enough especially if you have other devices utilizing the internet at the same time. Go higher, 10Mbps @ least or even the new Unifi 30Mbps package.

This post has been edited by voncrane: Jul 22 2015, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Jul 22 2015, 05:37 PM)
Android box works like any your android phones, all apps can easily install either via apk or google play store. Plus most android box on the market usually already come pre-installed with streaming apps and kodi so you can start using out of the box. But for sure it is better to get reputable brand like minix and hi media because they always update their firmware and they have their own launcher for easy use with their remote and work better as media center
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it is probably true an android phone user will find it easier.
should be ok with simple apk installation.
kodi...hmm, maybe not, unless all good addons preinstalled.
then there are updates...
a new android user will struggle with it (i did for 3 months), some will just give up - i have seen one! biggrin.gif
as for brands and models, i say it is more impt to have good continuous seller support.
and impt to have popular models so that you can share tips in a forum.

QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 22 2015, 10:50 PM)
Nonsense? You don't simply assume that everyone knows how to properly fix up an android box. Sure, you can install apps from the play store & stop there, but i can tell you, most don't even know how to side-load an apk. Heck, probably don't even know what an apk means. Setting up say Kodi to nearly replace an Astro set top box is no where near as simple as installing from the marketplace and tapping the icon. Also, most boxes contain OTA firmware updates, but what happens when said firmware is problematic and or crashes the box upon update and you have to restore using a PC? Or he encounters a boot loop and needs to flash a custom recovery to backup apps, restore firmwares and pull apps + data from the backup. Yeah, you think everyone can do that? I simply let him realize what the majority of the populace don't realize before buying an android box (ending up blaming the seller or hardware). Its not a Hypptv/Astro box that auto-updates its firmware, channels and EPG data, if you encounter issues, then you call tech support to come replace the box for free. A good android box is great while it works but some day you'll require REAL hands-on.

Now while 5 Mbps might be sufficient for some streams, its hardly enough especially if you have other devices utilizing the internet at the same time. Go higher, 10Mbps @ least or even the new Unifi 30Mbps package.
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pretty much agree with that, wasn't easy for me.

and yes, my 30mbps is coming! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 23 2015, 01:57 AM

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Is there any difference in quality for myiptv apps if I am upgrading my 5mbps unifi to 10mbps?
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QUOTE(shinchan5347 @ Jul 23 2015, 01:57 AM)
Is there any difference in quality for myiptv apps if I am upgrading my 5mbps unifi to 10mbps?
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i hv no experience with myiptv app but from other apps, big and small, 10mbps will surely be better than 5mbps, esp for hd streaming and multi-users.

5mbps give approx 600KBps, good enough if single user for most part but will be inadequate with say, 3 users each drawing 250-300KBps.

i'm going 30mbps from 10mbps, expecting good streaming all the time for multi users. wink.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 23 2015, 06:20 PM)
i hv no experience with myiptv app but from other apps, big and small, 10mbps will surely be better than 5mbps, esp for hd streaming and multi-users.

5mbps give approx 600KBps, good enough if single user for most part but will be inadequate with say, 3 users each drawing 250-300KBps.

i'm going 30mbps from 10mbps, expecting good streaming all the time for multi users. wink.gif
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Thanks for your advice because I am considering to upgrade my unifi smile.gif
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Anyway how can I mirror the display from my iPhone to the mi box?
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QUOTE(shinchan5347 @ Jul 23 2015, 07:50 PM)
Anyway how can I mirror the display from my iPhone to the mi box?
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mibox thread:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3561305/+40
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QUOTE(shinchan5347 @ Jul 23 2015, 07:50 PM)
Anyway how can I mirror the display from my iPhone to the mi box?
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You can download this IOS App. But you need have a chinese apple id. It is just few step to create through Itunes.

https://itunes.apple.com/cn/app/xiao-mi-yao...d658640994?mt=8

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QUOTE(Thalmes @ Jul 24 2015, 10:37 AM)
Hello, have spoken to few of the LYN sellers and have come to the conclusion of either of the following device:
1. HiMedia Q16
Advantage - Dedicated app - HiTV to watch more Asian Dramas/Movies
2. Minix H8
Advantage - XBMC a.k.a KODI (seller also mentioned that theres apk to install to watch asian dramas/movies on H8)
Honestly, to me the advantages does not make much of an impact because I won't tinker around with it.
I just wanna turn it on and watch. Home internet will be TIME Unlimited 10mbps Fibre Broadband.
Price wise, HiMedia is cheaper than Minx by at least RM100.
With those in mind, can you recommend me one that I should go for?
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u can make a better decision if u r clear about:

.. do u watch chinese-japanese-korean stuff? i mean mandarin w/chinese subs and not cantonese w/eng subs. if that is impt, himedia is a good choice as it comes with a couple of "proprietory" apps for that - video on demand and livetv for movies, tv shows, documentaries, news, sports - in mandarin.

.. will u use kodi heavily? might be hard to say since u may not know yet. still, if kodi is the prime purpose, minix is probably a better choice due to its involvement in kodi development and customized kodi versions.

.. will u use the device for hd audio, i.e. home theater? for playback, Q16 pass thru hd audio incl dtshdma, dolby digital truehd and dolby atmos. of course, the files must be of those types and yr home theater must have the capability. minix, i believe pass thru core dts and core dd audio only.

i am a 2 yr old user of 3 himedia units, very happy with them, esp Q16 - 16gb memory is superb for big apps, no worries for memory space. with just a few good apps, i get all i need - movies, news, sports, livetv, english, mandarin. i don't even use kodi much these days as other easier and faster apps can offer same or better content.

minix - actual users incl voncrane can advise u. there are already some comments in this thread, so do read them.

one thing i must impress on you as a new user again - an androidtv box is NOT "push button". to make it work well, u do need to spend some time to understand how it works, update firmwares and apps, file management, cleanup, use of mouse and remote, etc. which is why pre-installation, good support and continuous help is very impt. androidbox is software driven whereas dvd players and astro are hardware driven.

goodluck!

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jul 24 2015, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 24 2015, 11:08 AM)
u can make a better decision if u r clear about:

.. do u watch chinese-japanese-korean stuff? i mean mandarin w/chinese subs and not cantonese w/eng subs. if that is impt, himedia is a good choice as it comes with a couple of "proprietory" apps for that - video on demand and livetv for movies, tv shows, documentaries, news, sports - in mandarin.

.. will u use kodi heavily? might be hard to say since u may not know yet. still, if kodi is the prime purpose, minix is probably a better choice due to its involvement in kodi development and customized kodi versions.

.. will u use the device for hd audio, i.e. home theater? for playback, Q16 pass thru hd audio incl dtshdma, dolby digital truehd and dolby atmos. of course, the files must be of those types and yr home theater must have the capability. minix, i believe pass thru core dts and core dd audio only.

i am a 2 yr old user of 3 himedia units, very happy with them, esp Q16 - 16gb memory is superb for big apps, no worries for memory space. with just a few good apps, i get all i need - movies, news, sports, livetv, english, mandarin. i don't even use kodi much these days as other easier and faster apps can offer same or better content.

minix - actual users incl voncrane can advise u. there are already some comments in this thread, so do read them.

one thing i must impress on you as a new user again - an androidtv box is NOT "push button". to make it work well, u do need to spend some time to understand how it works, update firmwares and apps, file management, cleanup, use of mouse and remote, etc. which is why pre-installation, good support and continuous help is very impt. androidbox is software driven whereas dvd players and astro are hardware driven.

goodluck!
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Upon reading your comments, I am leaning a lot more towards Q16 smile.gif

The device itself looks great and of course the price is fairly cheaper.

If I can choose, I would prefer with ENGLISH subtitles while watching foreign shows (Korean especially) - so believe Q16 is better in this area?

I understand that I still need to do my own troubleshooting & update at times, but I do not wish to build a device from ground up.

Thanks.

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