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 Is the bubble finally bursting? 2014, V2

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MaxKHOO
post Jan 14 2014, 06:31 PM

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Malaysia properties will experience bubble burst if there is a significant increase in cost of borrowing, high unemployment rate, very stringent controls by BNM on loans. An increase of 25 to 50 basis point in interest rate will only have small impact on properties.
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post Jan 14 2014, 06:32 PM

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the bubble is not busted, just air escaping slowly. not 6m or a year, likely 3-5 years to be fully deflated.

by then, when all the air has escaped which means the pressure achieves atmospheric 1 bar which is same as if outright bursting occurred, we can start pump it up again.

like someone said in other thread, prop flipping is less risky than doing biz, followed by a good reply: close bursa, we all go flipping, no need to work for others or do own biz, simply flip to get rich.

there are good reasons for "boleh" and "boland" - we'll need more than indons, myanmaris n banglas, probably need to import martians and jupiterians to labor here. tongue.gif

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post Jan 14 2014, 07:11 PM

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Buy a service apt beside the new lrt extension or upcoming mrt or beside a big shopping mall & u will still make money.. watch out 4 mutiara 482 which is located bside mrt n the largest ikea in south east asia.. chance is Huat Ah!!
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post Jan 14 2014, 07:24 PM

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for those who can afford please buy now or pay higher cost in the future. wink.gif
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post Jan 14 2014, 07:26 PM

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Rich people can buy anytime. Poor people don't get to buy all the time.
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post Jan 14 2014, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(whyseej00 @ Jan 14 2014, 06:20 PM)
Bro that article is dated 2012. I just talked with my friends last weekend  doh.gif
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Just like i voted in this topic. We are not properly in a bubble yet. Still a long way to go. Why? Because look at example given peviously in the previous version, kajang still got around 300k landed house. Tell me that is not affordable...but then it is Kajang. But hey, its a house, maybe not in prime location but a house that you can live in. So guys stop whining and buy at this place. I still cant believe people complaining that properties are not affordble in Malaysia.

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post Jan 14 2014, 08:06 PM

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Kajang terrace hse will start moving rapidly when the rm26b sg buloh-kajang mrt line completes in july 2017. By then with d mrt line in place it will drastically change d way people commute to work daily. Tropicana heights recently launch double storey intermediate terrace hse is at nett rm768k after discount for 22Ă—70ft land. Kajang2 inter double storey terrace hse is fetching rm700k at recent subsale.. both r gated & guarded projects. Lurking closely is neighbor project Nadayu 92.
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:13 PM

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Great as i said buy in Kajang and stop complaining. Still got cheap...ok ok use another word, affordable properties there. Buy before it increases further. As for me i am a nearby KLCC area kind of guy. Easier for me to go to work. So i am not looking in Kajang...and of course i already bought a property of my own thats very near to KLCC.

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post Jan 14 2014, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(restful increase @ Jan 14 2014, 08:06 PM)
Kajang terrace hse will start moving rapidly when the rm26b sg buloh-kajang mrt line completes in july 2017. By then with d mrt line in place it will drastically change d way people commute to work daily. Tropicana heights recently launch double storey intermediate terrace hse is at nett rm768k after discount for 22Ă—70ft land. Kajang2 inter double storey terrace hse is fetching rm700k at recent subsale.. both r gated & guarded projects. Lurking closely is neighbor project Nadayu 92.
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Wah! U r more bullish than developers.
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(kh8668 @ Jan 14 2014, 07:24 PM)
for those who can afford please buy now or pay higher cost in the future. wink.gif
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Buying for future is a bubble, be it property or commodity.
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(gspirit01 @ Jan 14 2014, 08:14 PM)
Wah! U r more bullish than developers.
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Yes i am bullish on projects which r located beside mrt or lrt. Boom or bust, demand will b thr for rental. Better still if got mrt n big shopping mall together like tropicana garden and sunway velocity.
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jan 14 2014, 08:24 PM)
Buying for future is a bubble, be it property or commodity.
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Hie we are here again..version 2 liao.. Q1 slowing liaoo.. dat dude got problem one bought amanya maluri for long term at 575k.. 2 room lehh.. rental yeilds he say not much but he say it for long term investment oh.. funny...planning flip 750k studio 2 room.. he is mad.. bubble wont come wor.. empty units but sold how? Hold ahh?..
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:36 PM

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I dun foresee a burst of the whole malaysia. It will be a burst of certain areas and certain segments, especially those overpriced ones. Before budget announcements in 25th of october last year, KL already started to decline. See p5 of the following report to judge yourselves.

http://napic.jpph.gov.my/epsKeyStatistics/...tletWindowsnpbj
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(wbyee78 @ Jan 14 2014, 07:26 PM)
Rich people can buy anytime. Poor people don't get to buy all the time.
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They buy all d time.. to invest.. mostly rich staying in high class area.. wont go and stay.. the more they hold the better.. poor will keep renting the invested properties.. dun so confident..even can hold.. money is locked .. rich ppl dun buy cash even they have...incometax sure come one..

If money stuck in invested prop and had to hold.. new prop no chance buy liao... if u guys notice there is a forest reserve after bukit segar a big forest reserve.. who knows development lehh..
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(gspirit01 @ Jan 14 2014, 08:36 PM)
I dun foresee a burst of the whole malaysia. It will be a burst  of certain areas and certain segments, especially those overpriced ones.  Before budget announcements in 25th of october last year, KL already started to decline.  See p5 of the following report to judge yourselves.

http://napic.jpph.gov.my/epsKeyStatistics/...tletWindowsnpbj
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Gs spirit I agree the burst is targeted to inflated high rise and landed in kl and kv mostly... the other mature areas will not be affected or stagnant.. this group of ppl is pure flippers and is our aim.. the low end fliippers will drop out for sure..
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:40 PM

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This year is going to a year of

1) many sale
2) but no profit
3) cash contraction

There are significantly more property owner than actual people staying in a property.

Those with excess leverage will have to sell but not at lost but it's not with gain either. They will sell enough to stay afloat. Those who have cash can now cherry pick their property of choice at a stable price. Bank will look for good credit history people to lend.

There will be significantly more seminar/forum/talk by "guru" as a means to gain the necessary cash and show business cash flow so they can buy the right property.

Overall it's a shopping year for me. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(restful increase @ Jan 14 2014, 08:29 PM)
Yes i am bullish on projects which r located beside mrt or lrt. Boom or bust, demand will b thr for rental. Better still if got mrt n big shopping mall together like tropicana garden and sunway velocity.
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As if no more development will be allowed near to lrt or mrt stations.
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:53 PM

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What is your criteria to define bubble bursting?

Reduction in transaction?
Slowing down of annual price increment?
Reduction in transaction price?
Stagnation in transaction price?

Bear in mind that this year there are new measures significantly affecting the affordability of properties as well as "attractiveness" of property for short-mid term investors.

So what property is cheaper today compared to last year?
Any DS terrace in Bangsar, Tmn Tun, Tmn Desa, DH, Subang, Kota Kemuning, OUG, Puncak Jalil, BK, Ara D, Kelana Jaya, Tmn Mayang, Kajang, Bkt Tinggi, Setia Alam transacted at lower price so far this year compared to last?
Any Condo in MK, Bkt Jalil, Kota D, Subang transacted lower than last year?



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post Jan 14 2014, 08:55 PM

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And just saying i bought at 400k and people say it was a bubble back then. So please dont assume anything about me if anybody is trying too.
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post Jan 14 2014, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ Jan 14 2014, 06:01 PM)
Perhaps the so-called "Bubble" in the form of a significant % decrease in total transactions - both primary and secondary.

For upcoming projects, some developers are topping up 5%-20% increment in prices.

The people in the industry is seeing it like this, unfortunately.
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when there is change of policy, peoples tend to hold back, so reduc trans is expected, for me it shld not called "bubble". For the bubble,price shld go south majority and significantly for certain areas, and at least minor 4 othr areas... yet to feel it so far...!

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