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post Jan 13 2014, 02:08 AM, updated 12y ago

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Full name Liverpool Football Club
Nickname(s) The Reds
Founded 15 March 1892; 121 years ago
Ground Anfield
Capacity 45,522
Owner Fenway Sports Group
Principal Owner John W.Henry
Chairman Tom Werner
MD Ian Ayre
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 13 2014, 02:01 AM)
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to say he is the clown of the year is not worthy shakehead.gif

He just had a bad match and he is the clown now?

I think the thing to do now is the formation,as someone stated to accomodate gerrard we need to play 2 DM, which IMO a bad formation against teams like Stoke.
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Cissokho and Johnson are plain rubbish..
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FOOKIN FULLBACKSSSS
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missed the game..any highlights? its not good to see us concede 3 goals
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look at that bench!!BR only made 1 sub which says it all for me.

This is a turf where the likes of man city, chelsea and everton has failed to grab 3 points, not bad eh? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 13 2014, 02:11 AM)
look at that bench!!BR only made 1 sub which says it all for me.

This is a turf where the likes of man city, chelsea and everton has failed to grab 3 points, not bad eh? biggrin.gif
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Not bad?

Thanks god we got SaS that is!
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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Jan 13 2014, 02:09 AM)
to say he is the clown of the year is not worthy  shakehead.gif

He just had a bad match and he is the clown now?

I think the thing to do now is the formation,as someone stated to accomodate gerrard we need to play 2 DM, which IMO a bad formation against  teams like Stoke.
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I not said that..i only requote...then to said our defend (agger/skrtel/toure/sakho/enrique/johnson/flanagan/kelly) clown of the year more worthy? brows.gif
Yes.. Im the one who state that to accomodate gerrard we need to play 2 dm. That relly suck

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Coutinho need to learn how to shoot from Suarez.
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Could have scored more. Could have conceded more.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 13 2014, 02:11 AM)
missed the game..any highlights? its not good to see us concede 3 goals
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Highlights of the game? Our defense sucks big time.. I think my taman team defense can play better...
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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jan 13 2014, 02:13 AM)
Highlights of the game? Our defense sucks big time.. I think my taman team defense can play better...
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well it has been few games already our defense sucks..our def pass back and forth dangerously for the last couple of games..and we definitely need to improve on def during set piece and corner..its just a matter of time before we lose the match because of this few errors
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Mignolet was shit, crouch's ball hit the bar and he was caught ball watching... Crap
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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jan 13 2014, 02:13 AM)
Highlights of the game? Our defense sucks big time.. I think my taman team defense can play better...
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even pdrm fc better

toure skrtel cost us big time..hull away 3-1 drool.gif

nvm sakho can play next week? doh.gif

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My heart is still pumping at full speed. The blood is circling my vein. The adrenalin that this game causes is too much.

How to sleep? sad.gif
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 13 2014, 02:16 AM)
well it has been few games already our defense sucks..our def pass back and forth dangerously for the last couple of games..and we definitely need to improve on def during set piece and corner..its just a matter of time before we lose the match because of this few errors
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typical error

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Need to buy a new fullback. Glen Johnson suck this season. Cissokho is not good enough.
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Gerrard slack, we need fullbacks lol.. I cant believe this coming summer we gonna shop for defense again. Last summer we bought a keeper and 3 defender!


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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jan 13 2014, 02:18 AM)
Gerrard slack, we need fullbacks lol.. I cant believe this coming summer we gonna shop for defense again. Last summer we bought a keeper and 3 defender!
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and loan 1 fullback rclxms.gif
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Sturridge macam not really happy...just now celebration for his goal...Suarez keep hugging him,he was like dun care... sweat.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 13 2014, 02:17 AM)
My heart is still pumping at full speed. The blood is circling my vein. The adrenalin that this game causes is too much.

How to sleep? sad.gif
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Imagine everytime Stoke hoofed the ball into our penalty,fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh the heart literally stoppppppp.Damn it mad.gif
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QUOTE(K.H.A.I @ Jan 13 2014, 02:17 AM)
typical error

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yea..i think BR need to look back at his tactic for defending against set pieces and corner
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We need a DM and we dont need to buy a fullback. Dont waste money on that. Flanno will be back soon and Kelly is available.

Just drop Glenno. He needs to re-evaluate and rediscover his form again. His side was so open that Stoke kept bullying us from his side and throw in so many crosses.

A GIANT DM quickly
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 13 2014, 02:16 AM)
Mignolet was shit, crouch's ball hit the bar and he was caught ball watching... Crap
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Yaloh... I also notice that... No his good game 2nit.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 13 2014, 02:20 AM)
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Did he just do this flex.gif ? LOL. rclxms.gif
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we got 6 senior cbs and 6 fullbacks

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Skrtel need to learn not to hold opposition shirt during corner and freekick.
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cant BR try convert our cbs to play dm like sahko/agger?
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 13 2014, 02:19 AM)
Sturridge macam not really happy...just now celebration for his goal...Suarez keep hugging him,he was like dun care... sweat.gif  doh.gif
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nola, he gave credit by pointing to suarez after his goal celebration...
that assist to suarez's second goal was incredible, he look like he's going to attempt at goal...
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 13 2014, 02:21 AM)
We need a DM and we dont need to buy a fullback. Dont waste money on that. Flanno will be back soon and Kelly is available.

Just drop Glenno. He needs to re-evaluate and rediscover his form again. His side was so open that Stoke kept bullying us from his side and throw in so many crosses.

A GIANT DM quickly
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bro..we really need a FB..look at the amount of crosses that Stoke had..i dont trust GJ anymore..Kelly is injury prone
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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Jan 13 2014, 02:19 AM)
Imagine everytime Stoke hoofed the ball into our penalty,fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh the heart literally stoppppppp.Damn it  mad.gif
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Same here. My heart skipped a beat each time we defend set piece. We're pretty shite with defense.

But Thank God, Stoke didnt really passed the ball well in the 1st half but they played the ball much more better in the 2nd half but couldnt take some of the chances well when they hoof it in.

Our defense is looking more and more amateurish at the moment. sad.gif
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what v learned 2day

- sakho is our best defender

- if playing 1-2 at midfield, allen + henderson is the best partnership to press up front

v fail to grab any point at stoke for past 3 season, im happy for any kind of win

smile.gif cheers !
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QUOTE(alan_kong84 @ Jan 13 2014, 02:21 AM)
Yaloh... I also notice that... No his good game 2nit.
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Mignolet looks abit stiff.. he looks confident but at times he is slow, dunno still not convinced I would love to see Vorm tongue.gif but highly doubt so..


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QUOTE(skyz @ Jan 13 2014, 02:26 AM)
nola, he gave credit by pointing to suarez after his goal celebration...
that assist to suarez's second goal was incredible, he look like he's going to attempt at goal...
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last time suarez not smiling confirm he will be sold to RM...now sturridge not happy after suarez score pulakkkk biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jan 13 2014, 02:29 AM)
bro..we really need a FB..look at the amount of crosses that Stoke had..i dont trust GJ anymore..Kelly is injury prone
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If it's a loanee, I dont mind. But to invest in a FB meaning that GJ is given no chance at all. Means selling him end of the season. That would be too harsh la.

I hope GJ will come back strongly. Everyone have a bad patch before.
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jan 13 2014, 02:30 AM)
Mignolet looks abit stiff.. he looks confident but at times he is slow, dunno still not convinced I would love to see Vorm tongue.gif but highly doubt so..
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Probably need a backup goalie who can challenge him...Jones not good enough... Given should be a good addition if not for the high wages.
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jan 13 2014, 02:30 AM)
Mignolet looks abit stiff.. he looks confident but at times he is slow, dunno still not convinced I would love to see Vorm tongue.gif but highly doubt so..
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chooses to punch when he could have just caught the ball. need to gain his confidence back
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If it's a loanee, I dont mind. But to invest in a FB meaning that GJ is given no chance at all. Means selling him end of the season. That would be too harsh la.

I hope GJ will come back strongly. Everyone have a bad patch before.
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bad patch since 2012...
wat kind of form is tis
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Probably need a backup goalie who can challenge him...Jones not good enough... Given should be a good addition if not for the high wages.
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Yea definitely.. BR likes Jones tho he said hes a good backup GK.. he stays quiet for the team.

Summer buy!
Michel Vorm
2 better fullbacks!
And a DM

We need more depth for bench if we are gonna play in CL..
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And this one, really surprised me. Dannyboy is awesome! rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jan 13 2014, 02:36 AM)
Yea definitely.. BR likes Jones tho he said hes a good backup GK.. he stays quiet for the team.

Summer buy!
Michel Vorm
2 better fullbacks!
And a DM

We need more depth for bench if we are gonna play in CL..
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are reina out of contract nex summer?
if we in cl,possible reina wan stay oso

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 13 2014, 02:40 AM)
And this one, really surprised me. Dannyboy is awesome!  rclxms.gif

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xperlu la keeper baru,,, mignolet main dah bagus... it just the defender that are poor or even very2 poor...

we need new rb and lb quickly
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Some thoughts after the game...

When was the last time Liverpool conceded 3 goals? Yes...3-1 loss to Hull City and guess what? That was the last time Skrtel and Kolo were paired together before today.

Just 3 clean sheets in the last 16. Conceding at least 2 goals in 25 of 59 league games under Rodgers. Damn our defence is leaky!
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sorry going abit off topic..never had the chance to see how bayern play under pep..

saw this video posted in K and im amazed at their tiki taka..

they played fast 1 touch passing..

and most of the time you could see 4 players forming a square perimeter...

hopefully we can be able to play this kind of football soon


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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 13 2014, 03:18 AM)
sorry going abit off topic..never had the chance to see how bayern play under pep..

saw this video posted in K and im amazed at their tiki taka..

they played fast 1 touch passing..

and most of the time you could see 4 players forming a square perimeter...

hopefully we can be able to play this kind of football soon

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Absolutely beautiful. Sadly we don't have the personnel to play this style. Bayern v Barca would be a dream CL final.
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Have you noticed Lucas and Henderson were missing at the 2nd half of the match?
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QUOTE(keong24 @ Jan 13 2014, 02:30 AM)
what v learned 2day

- sakho is our best defender

- if playing 1-2 at midfield, allen + henderson is the best partnership to press up front

v fail to grab any point at stoke for past 3 season, im happy for any kind of win

smile.gif cheers !
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Actually we play really beautiful football when gerrard out injured. Now, we have to slow the tempo of play because he take the midfield role and stay deep at the front of cb. Gerrard doesnt intercept the pass like lucas did or do macherano tackle. His strength is passing and make run and an attempt to opponent goal. What is the use of gerrard when he can't do his job.. Miss some pass that make opponent able to score?btw, his key is from set pieces deliveries now. Suarez has score a few from his resulting free kick..
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i would like to say that we will facing different style of attacking.... so the defend has to accommodate what is coming and play at their best....
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On mY..........our defending vs our SAS...........worlds apart
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 13 2014, 02:32 AM)
If it's a loanee, I dont mind. But to invest in a FB meaning that GJ is given no chance at all. Means selling him end of the season. That would be too harsh la.

I hope GJ will come back strongly. Everyone have a bad patch before.
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yeahhh, me too..but the problem is, he's got one hell of a longgggg bad patches...against better teams, he'll get found out..for the first time i think cissokho had a better game than GJ last nite
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Suarez's stats vs the rest

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0 penalties for Suarez.

5 penalties for Ronaldo.

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Horrible defending from both teams last night. And epic goalkeeping mistakes. As usual, Johnson was horrible. Sloppy, wasteful and lazy. Didn't deserve to be in the first XI. Why he stayed for the entire game is beyond me. Kelly should have been given a chance. Cissokho, better, but still not a Liverpool starting XI quality. BR needs to invest on a fullback this January.

Our strikeforce made up for our sloppiness on the back. BR got it absolutely right by bringing in ST15. Sterling wasn't that good last night but he made up for it. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 13 2014, 02:19 AM)
Sturridge macam not really happy...just now celebration for his goal...Suarez keep hugging him,he was like dun care... sweat.gif  doh.gif
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jan 13 2014, 02:20 AM)
Am a lurker, but I HAVE to come out and post here!!! My Fav Game of the Season!!

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chooses to punch when he could have just caught the ball. need to gain his confidence back
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Btw some stats I read, not sure true or not:

1-This is first win at Britannia since 1984

2-Stoke only concede 7 goals before this match

3-The like of City and Chelsea failed to get 3 points at Britannia
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jan 13 2014, 03:49 AM)
Absolutely beautiful. Sadly we don't have the personnel to play this style. Bayern v Barca would be a dream CL final.
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come on... we all did the same right?  thumbup.gif
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one thing i learned fr this. nvr to bet wif my gf. EVERYTIME i bet wif her Liverpool lost or drew.

This time im not betting will season end. I hope we wont lose till then!
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We concede 3 because i have 3 round last night brows.gif lol laugh.gif
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jan 13 2014, 09:01 AM)
Horrible defending from both teams last night. And epic goalkeeping mistakes. As usual, Johnson was horrible. Sloppy, wasteful and lazy. Didn't deserve to be in the first XI. Why he stayed for the entire game is beyond me. Kelly should have been given a chance. Cissokho, better, but still not a Liverpool starting XI quality. BR needs to invest on a fullback this January.

Our strikeforce made up for our sloppiness on the back. BR got it absolutely right by bringing in ST15. Sterling wasn't that good last night but he made up for it. laugh.gif
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Not only Johnson, the whole defence was in shambles. BR needs to spend more time working on his defence during training as this problem has been evident for quite a while. When Liv were 2-0 up, they should have sealed the game at that point!!!! Totally pissed at our defense, allowing Stoke City came back from 2 goals down. Even Suarez was shaking his head in disbelief at half time.

Again, his attacking prowess alone saved the day for us. As for Sterling, Let's be honest, that penalty call was too harsh. There was a small nudge from the defender, and Sterling made a meal out of it. Poor poor effort from Sterling, he was slow to pick his passes when he got the ball and chose to go down that way.

I agree that the Sturridge substitution really made the difference. Coutinho was struggling yesterday and bottled a few goalmouth chances.

But hey 3 points is 3 points. Arsenal should drop points tonight against Villa if the bookie law holds true.


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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 13 2014, 07:44 AM)
Actually we play really beautiful football when gerrard out injured. Now, we have to slow the tempo of play because he take the midfield role and stay deep at  the front of cb. Gerrard doesnt intercept the pass like lucas did or do macherano tackle. His strength is passing and make run and an attempt to opponent goal. What is the use of gerrard when he can't do his job.. Miss some pass that make opponent able to score?btw, his key is from set pieces deliveries now. Suarez has score a few from his resulting free kick..
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btw, whats up with SG power header to our own goal yesterday? lucky mignolet parry the ball doh.gif
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I must say that it was the most pulsating Premiership game I've seen all season. This tops the Merseyside Derby v1.0 earlier this season in my opinion. It was end-to-end stuff and the momentum swung from end to end like a pendulum.

My player ratings :-

Simon Mignolet (6) - Could not do much about the goals he conceded. Saw all of them really late as two efforts came from between the legs of defenders and the other was planted in the far corner by an impressive Peter Crouch. A couple of routine saves but exceptional reflexes to keep out Gerrard's effort! Suspect in the air again in the land of the giants as Shawcross and Crouch constantly looked to unsettle him during setpieces.

Glen Johnson (5) - Wasteful. Lost possession on a number of occasions but either misplacing a pass or having the ball nicked off him when trying to dribble past opposition defenders.

Cissokho (5) - I don't remember a time he actually beat a player. Offered very little going forward. He was also constantly caught out of position at the back. His most significant contribution that I can remember was winning a towering header against Jon Walters.

Martin Skrtel (6) - Should have been penalised for dragging Shawcross to ground. Once again, he started the game by molesting Stoke forwards. Got better as the game wore on, winning a couple of crucial headers and making some important clearances. Was at fault for standing of Charlie Adam which led to a goal.

Kolo Toure (6) - Solid at the back and tried to bring the ball out on a number of occasions and Stevie was playing deep enough to cover the centreback position. Overall, he dealt pretty well with Stoke's aerial assault considering he was marking a bloke half a foot taller than him. Still he lost Crouch which led to a goal, and he was slow to close down Walters which led to another goal.

Steven Gerrard (6) - Had an average game by his standards. For the first time, he was the deepest of our midfield trio with Lucas taking up a more advanced role. Tenacious defensively but misplaced numerous passes when our lads were forward leaving us pretty exposed when Stoke hit us on the counter. This is where he needs to discipline himself a little, and not always look for the long, killer pass. Rather, he needs to work on passing the ball about with Henderson and Lucas.

Jordan Henderson (6) - It was his error that led to Charlie Adam's goal as he tapped the ball back into the path of the Scotsman. Else, he had an average game playing second fiddle once again to the deep lying Steven Gerrard. Drifted wide left to accommodate Sturridge in the end. Had one left footed effort fly high and wide. Can't help but feel he fades a little each time Stevie is on the field.

Lucas (6) - Spent more time in the opposition half than in previous games but to be honest, I don't remember seeing much of him.

Coutinho (6) - The lad is a wizard on the ball and has a keen eye for spotting cracks in defenses but his finishing is woeful. Scuppered his best opportunity by hitting it straight at Butland after some good build up play from the team. Faded as the game wore on having to spend most of his time defending.

Sterling (7) - Was a constant thorn in Pieter's side. Tormented him time and time again with a mixture of speed and trickery. Looks to be back to his best recently after the boss told him to sort out his personal issues. Went down a little easy to earn us a penalty but if you look at the replay, Wilson actually checked his hip and not his legs and this was always likely to send a wee lad half his size, flying.

Suarez (9) - Hardly put a foot wrong. At some points during the game, Stoke players must have mistaken him for the football. Took the hits, but kept on coming. Already run out of superlatives to describe him. Brilliant finish after his BFF set him up but it was his first goal that exemplifies just how hard Suarez works. He never ever gives up on a ball. Complete performance from his as he also dropped deep to help out in defence. At one point, I saw him at rightback, helping out Johnson.

Sturridge (8) - What a way to mark his comeback from injury with a goal and an assist. Brilliant save from Butland to keep out his first effort but good determination and control shown to first chest the ball, then heading it down onto his left foot, before finally driving it into the bottom corner. Nice to see SAS back to it's best.

Overall it was a game littered with defensive errors and we were almost punished for missing out on some gilt edged opportunities but in the end, we scored 5 goals against a team we hadn't beaten at home for 29 years, sending them to only their 2nd home defeat of the season. We've now done the double over Stoke this season.

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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 13 2014, 09:37 AM)
We concede 3 because i have 3 round last night brows.gif lol laugh.gif
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jan 13 2014, 09:58 AM)
As for Sterling, Let's be honest, that penalty call was too harsh. There was a small nudge from the defender, and Sterling made a meal out of it. Poor poor effort from Sterling, he was slow to pick his passes when he got the ball and chose to go down that way.
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Maybe it was soft penalty. But looking from angle of camera behind the goal, the contact was enough to warrant penalty.

QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jan 13 2014, 10:07 AM)
btw, whats up with SG power header to our own goal yesterday? lucky mignolet parry the ball  doh.gif
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QUOTE(farisq @ Jan 13 2014, 10:26 AM)
please plan your "round" next time ok  mad.gif
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Maybe it was soft penalty. But looking from angle of camera behind the goal, the contact was enough to warrant penalty.
Like what I read in ESPN, the header was just to show that Mignolet is still top class keeper lol  biggrin.gif
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I'm not sure what BR strategy yesterday to play SG and Lucas as DM, the team seems like lack of creativity. I prefer to play either one of them and put Alberto or Allen to move forward. I just miss how good we were to play against spurs. Again I still believe Gerrard should be rested and give chance to other lads to play. I'm not sure how important he is to the team besides his long pass.

I'm quiet impressed with sterling as he showed how committed he is to get pass through Stoke defender with his physical ability. Most of the time, he just being out muscled but he's not give up though I agree that it should not be a penalty. It looks soft to me and he fall down easily becoz of his lightweight physical.

Overall, breathtaking performance and what a win against Stoke at their home ground. YNWA.
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how come some played 40-42 games? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 13 2014, 10:22 AM)
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Cissokho (5) - I don't remember a time he actually beat a player. Offered very little going forward. He was also constantly caught out of position at the back. His most significant contribution that I can remember was winning a towering header against Jon Walters.


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Other than that I agreed with the rate given
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How can you forget his contribution for the first goal.  laugh.gif

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How can you forget his contribution for the first goal.  laugh.gif

Other than that I agreed with the rate given
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 13 2014, 07:44 AM)
Actually we play really beautiful football when gerrard out injured. Now, we have to slow the tempo of play because he take the midfield role and stay deep at  the front of cb. Gerrard doesnt intercept the pass like lucas did or do macherano tackle. His strength is passing and make run and an attempt to opponent goal. What is the use of gerrard when he can't do his job.. Miss some pass that make opponent able to score?btw, his key is from set pieces deliveries now. Suarez has score a few from his resulting free kick..
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actually gerrard did some good tackle in the early part of game, but faded away after concede the 1st goal.

i think the reason BR put gerrard in the deepest role because his aerial battle is better than lucas, n he did won few of them in the early part

when allen is fit, i would still hope the 1-2 midfield is including gerrard, with him in the deepest role, gerrard - henderson+allen

but the problem i saw so far is henderson always below par when gerrard is on the pitch sweat.gif

for the defense part im not too worry about it, because 3 of 4 of the starting defender were not our 1st choice, which shud b improve after enrique n sakho is back in few weeks time.

johnson seriously is painful to watch sometime. sweat.gif


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Yesterday's match gave me mini heart attacks. Thank goodness we have Suarez. Not sure how many times I've said that this season. The team's performance was average. Relied a lot on Suarez to make things happen going forward.
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QUOTE(melt @ Jan 13 2014, 10:41 AM)
How can you forget his contribution for the first goal.  laugh.gif

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Good performance.. but I would say.. defence got to better.. even 1 goal lead looks like we will conceed..
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We took the lead fortuitously and Stoke responded with a series of aerial bombardments as they tried to reenact Pearl Harbour. If memory serves me, we earned our first corner kick only in the second half. We did let them back into the game but on a positive note, the team responded and fought back. We didn't buckle and fold as we did in the past. If anything this was a highly motivating win.
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Stoke City vs Liverpool motd highlight
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 13 2014, 11:42 AM)
We took the lead fortuitously and Stoke responded with a series of aerial bombardments as they tried to reenact Pearl Harbour. If memory serves me, we earned our first corner kick only in the second half. We did let them back into the game but on a positive note, the team responded and fought back. We didn't buckle and fold as we did in the past. If anything this was a highly motivating win.
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the best fullbacks we have is
enrique>flanagan>>>>>>>>>>>johno-cissokho

best cbs
sakho-agger>>>>>skrtel>toure>coates>kelly

and those wisdom,robinson,kelly

wow so many defensive options yet only sakho,agger,flanagan n enrique are class. doh.gif

compared this to attacking force

suarez>sturo>>>>>>aspas

wingers

sterling>moses>ibe

AM

coutinho>hendo

and got suso,assaidi,borini on loan,scoring goals as well



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I cringe my teeth whenever Stoke has a set piece. They are the strongest in the air and to add to that, Mignolet great reflexes but clumsy on his feet and doesn't have the confidence to catch the ball.
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 13 2014, 11:58 AM)
I cringe my teeth whenever Stoke has a set piece. They are the strongest in the air and to add to that, Mignolet great reflexes but clumsy on his feet and doesn't have the confidence to catch the ball.
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every time any teams cross/set piece i sh1t on my pants..no confidence at all
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I think the overall performance was acceptable. No way near our best but I suppose it to be expected as we were using a different setup in midfield.

Gerrard was playing deep and Lucas in the advance role. For me this was a positive change despite Lucas being our best DM imo. Lucas may have not played that box to box role in a long time but i don't think we were looking for that killer attacking prowess. I think the general idea was to find a balance in midfield so that we could maintain our aggressive pressing and with Allen out injured and Alberto still raw, Lucas is the next best answer. Gerrard is no doubt the better attacking player but Lucas is better suited for that combative role. But even then i don't think Lucas played that role as good as Allen has for us this season. Gerrard had a mixed game but i reckon his game would have suffered even more had he played an advance role but at least playing deeper allowed him to play more conservatively and not get knackered at 60min mark. Hendo looked a lot more passive than usual - i think he tried to be clever at times and BR wasn't happy with that.

The real disappointment are the 2 fullbacks. I'm starting to believe that either Johnson has been told he could leave next summer or he's just upset for not getting a new contract. Whatever it is, he's been no where near good enough for us. Some some great play from him but it's becoming more and more of a rare occurrence. Cissokho probably played his worse game for us - there's just no excuse for not able to cope with Charlie Adam and when he went forward he looked like some deranged donkey trotting down some muddy field. Not sure whether to laugh or shout in anger. It was hilariously bad.

The real positive are the forward players. Suarez has scored 2 goals at Stoke where other top strikers have faltered. Sterling was immense yet again. He's fast becoming a key player for us and the fact that Sturridge came in to replace Coutinho instead of him is a testament of his current form. Coutinho struggled yesterday - he didn't look sharp and i think missing all those chances are starting to eat him up. Still a good player but Sterling current form will most likely push Coutinho out of the starting 11 to make room for Sturridge whose presence was immediately felt. With Sturridge we suddenly looked a lot more dangerous as he gave us pace, movement and lethal finish.

All in all, i enjoyed that match. Not nice to concede 3 goals but we did well to win against Stoke on a cold and wet evening.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jan 13 2014, 09:58 AM)
Not only Johnson, the whole defence was in shambles. BR needs to spend more time working on his defence during training as this problem has been evident for quite a while. When Liv were 2-0 up, they should have sealed the game at that point!!!! Totally pissed at our defense, allowing Stoke City came back from 2 goals down. Even Suarez was shaking his head in disbelief at half time.

Again, his attacking prowess alone saved the day for us. As for Sterling, Let's be honest, that penalty call was too harsh. There was a small nudge from the defender, and Sterling made a meal out of it. Poor poor effort from Sterling, he was slow to pick his passes when he got the ball and chose to go down that way.

I agree that the Sturridge substitution really made the difference. Coutinho was struggling yesterday and bottled a few goalmouth chances.

But hey 3 points is 3 points. Arsenal should drop points tonight against Villa if the bookie law holds true.
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 13 2014, 11:58 AM)
I cringe my teeth whenever Stoke has a set piece. They are the strongest in the air and to add to that, Mignolet great reflexes but clumsy on his feet and doesn't have the confidence to catch the ball.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jan 13 2014, 01:01 PM)
Not Sterlings fault he weighs 5gram. If anyone was to blame, its the ref for giving it. I dont think it was a blatant dive as well.
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In today's game players go down the moment they feel contact. In Sterling's case, there was contact around the hip area but was it enough to make him go down? Probably not but that's for the ref to interpret as you've quite rightly said. Look at is this way, players go down all the time when they're shielding the ball and they feel a bit of contact from behind. Often they go down clutching the ball as if they expect a foul to be given even when contact is minimal. Nothing to stop them from doing the same in the box.
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2 things that I'm worried.

1) Skertel shirt pulling
2) Coutinho shooting skills

Overall I'm happy and man almost had heart attack to watch last night's match
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BR said that it was a Spanish penalty so he agreed that it was a soft penalty. Yeah we were lucky with that pen but as they say, you make your own luck. Sterling made the initial run into space from his own half but a Stoke player beat him to it. But instead of giving up, he kept on pressing and put himself in a position to intercept the clearance. He carried the ball all the way into the opponent's box until the soft pen was awarded. A simple case of fortune favors the bold.
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BR deserves credit for winning at stoke.Something which previous managers have failed to do.

The entire midfield was at fault for the goals.
Contrary to popular opinion joe allen is not the solution to this problem.
FSG must spend soon and fast.
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You gotta hand it to Liverpool to grind out a win with Stoke.

keyword here: grind.

I'll take any scoreline with them as long as we win and get the three points.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jan 13 2014, 02:46 PM)
BR deserves credit for winning at stoke.Something which previous managers have failed to do.

The entire midfield was at fault for the goals.
Contrary to popular opinion joe allen is not the solution to this problem.
FSG must spend soon and fast.
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Indeed because Allen has played in that holding role before and the results were far from satisfactory.

This comes back to my point on the Allen-Lucas-Henderson being more effective than the set up we saw this morning. Firstly, there is more mobility. Allen may be built like an infant but he is tenacious and he does close down pretty effectively and when paired with Lucas, gives opposition less time on the ball. This morning, Gerrard was doing a lot of the defensive work together with Lucas and what we saw was Charlie Adam of all people given the freedom to play like he was Kaka. No one was pressuring him when he had the ball. It also frees up Henderson to play further up the park. The issue with pairing Lucas and Gerrard at the back is neither is particularly quick and thus Henderson has to drop deep to help out.

I've maintained that we need another DM since before the season began and this hasn't changed. Our way of playing requires midfielders who are quick as we favour a high pressing game, which is why someone like Charlie Adam struggled.
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Overall, I do not think it was good performance last night.

Most of the time, Liv was under pressure (particular second half despite score 3 goals all come from counter attack), and defence look shaky particularly with aerial ball.
It was the clinical forward play that make the different.

A nail biting match for fan, and exciting match for neutral.

Positive
1. The team manage to score again even losing the 2-0 lead become 2-2, which is rare last time.
2. SSS (Suarez, Sturridge, Sterling) look threatening most of the time when going forward.

Negative
1. Defence still a big issue. Without ability to keep clean sheet, there is a limit how far the team can go.
Cannot always rely on outscoring opponent to win matches, particularly against top team.

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I'm still chuffed regardless. We've finally ended the Britannia hoodoo. Too often in recent times, we've been breaking the wrong sort of records. Not an impressive performance but a significant results nonetheless. Stoke had previously beaten Chelsea and held Everton at home.
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Positives:

1. SAS partnership still looks great.
2. Finally we can win ugly
3. We didnt settle for a draw or a close shave win.
4. Scoring 3 in the second half
5. Winning away at a very very tough venue

Negatives:

1. Still very wasteful with chances.
2. Passing accuracy is still pretty 'meh'
3. Defence is suspect (alot of times) - especially during set pieces
4. Not much control in midfield
5. Sktel's shirt pulling ways
6. Couts shooting accuracy (lack of)
7. The underlying over-reliance on Stevie G
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 13 2014, 03:35 PM)
Positives:

1. SAS partnership still looks great.
2. Finally we can win ugly
3. We didnt settle for a draw or a close shave win.
4. Scoring 3 in the second half
5. Winning away at a very very tough venue

Negatives:

1. Still very wasteful with chances.
2. Passing accuracy is still pretty 'meh'
3. Defence is suspect (alot of times) - especially during set pieces
4. Not much control in midfield
5. Sktel's shirt pulling ways
6. Couts shooting accuracy (lack of)
7. The underlying over-reliance on Stevie G AND Suarez
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Jan 13 2014, 03:38 PM)
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Reliance on Suarez is not underlying ma...

I mean when Gerrard play suddenly everyone's game went down one point.
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Stoke are on average the tallest team in the Premiership at 1.87 metres (close to 6' 2"). Most teams struggle in the air against them which is why they've scored from so many set pieces. All things being equal, the taller team will have the advantage in the air but that's stating the obvious.

We have been poor at defending from dead ball situations but this has been a prevalent issue post Houllier.

To start, I don't think we have too many players that are strong in the air. We don't score many headers which is an indication of this. We don't convert that many corners and if we do, it's mostly because one of our lads lost his marker. On the odd occasion, the likes of Skrtel and Agger will tower above their markers. Toure smashed one off the post as he out-jumped Shawcross against Stoke at Anfield didn't he?

Players losing out on-one-on just means we need to buy players who are stronger in the air. What concerns me most is that our lads have a habit of losing their marks, especially the fullbacks. I've no idea what this is down to. Zonal marking? Could be we have attacking minded fullbacks who aren't that competent defensively? Most of the time we see either the winger or DM drop back to help out. We all know Glen Johnson is a bit suspect at the back and Cissoko isn't any better. Could this be the problem?

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We conceded 3 goals from open play which i think could have been prevented. Stoke first goal came from a cross which both Suarez and Johnson failed to block. What happened there ? Why did they allow the Stoke player to launch a cross ? Lack of communication ?

The 2nd goal came from a miss lay off from Hendo that fell to Charlie Adam. I think Hendo did the right thing to lay it off but Gerrard moved into space just as Hendo made that lay off. Imo Gerrard should not have vacated his previous position. If he felt he needed to readjust his position then he was in the wrong position in the first place.

The build up for the 3rd goal came from another miss communication i think. There was a loose aerial ball and both Lucas and Gerrard were in contention to win it. There may had been a late call from Gerrard as Lucas backed away at the last moment. Gerrard miscontrolled the ball and Stoke punished us for it.

So that's 2 goals involving Gerrard failing to communicate with 2 different midfielders. I'm incline to blame his lack of experience of not playing that deep for the club - he says he has for England but it's not the same with different players. I think he's capable to play there but will need time to adjust.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 13 2014, 12:40 PM)
The real positive are the forward players. Suarez has scored 2 goals at Stoke where other top strikers have faltered. Sterling was immense yet again. He's fast becoming a key player for us and the fact that Sturridge came in to replace Coutinho instead of him is a testament of his current form. Coutinho struggled yesterday - he didn't look sharp  and i think missing all those chances are starting to eat him up. Still a good player but Sterling current form will most likely push Coutinho out of the starting 11 to make room for Sturridge whose presence was immediately felt. With Sturridge we suddenly looked a lot more dangerous as he gave us pace, movement and lethal finish.

All in all, i enjoyed that match. Not nice to concede 3 goals but we did well to win against Stoke on a cold and wet evening.
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To be fair, it's not only Sterling's form that Coutinho was substituted. Let's be frank and ask ourselves, how many have we seen Coutinho M.I.A during second half. If he cant improve his mentality and and physical state to play 90minutes, he will always be the first one to be substituted. Not only he didnt attack well in 2nd half, he didn't even help out the defense like Sterling did. It's easy to understand why Sterling stay on pitch instead of him based on these reasons alone.
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I agree on defensively was poor, if you actually watched all the top 6 teams played yesterday and on Saturday. All the top team struggle to play comfortably like our Stoke game but thier defence was superb..

I am still not convinced by Mignolet the third goal was partly him and other 2 goals was defenders fault.. you let Arnautovic crosses so easily not just once, then the defensively clearance it just keep flying back towards our side hence pile more pressure..

For now I think BR focused on a DM central role.. Gerrard dropped to deeper role probably the reason why they didnt manage to get M'Vila and asked Gerrard to play that role while he and we still prefer (just) abit better with Hendo + Allen
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i agree the defense has a lot to look at but it is unfair to compare when different team are playing. Chelsea let in 3 against Stoke as well and is ranked 2nd in term of letting goal in we should then be pleased? Man City had a 0-0 draw at Stoke but leaked 23 goals. Southampton leaked 23 goals (same as man city) but is 17 points behind Man City.

when we are unlucky hitting post for zillion times and what not we wished our team can win ugly and that's what they are doing now but personally this is far from ugly. do remember this is a thin squad - again as i mentioned for N times look at that bench and how many subs BR made last night speaks it all.


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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 13 2014, 12:40 PM)
I think the overall performance was acceptable. No way near our best but  I suppose it to be expected as we were using a different setup in midfield.

Gerrard was playing deep and Lucas in the advance role. For me this was a positive change despite Lucas being our best DM imo. Lucas may have not played that box to box role in a long time but i don't think we were looking for that killer attacking prowess. I think the general idea was to find a balance in midfield so that we could maintain our aggressive pressing and with Allen out injured and Alberto still raw, Lucas is the next best answer. Gerrard is no doubt the better attacking player but Lucas is better suited for that combative role. But even then i don't think Lucas played that role as good as Allen has for us this season. Gerrard had a mixed game but i reckon his game would have suffered even more had he played an advance role  but at least playing deeper allowed him to play more conservatively and not get knackered at 60min mark. Hendo looked a lot more passive than usual - i think he tried to be clever at times and BR wasn't happy with that.
Think BR will replace Lucas with Allen when he's back, or with new signings.
Either way it doesn't look good for Lucas.

Like the idea of Gerrard playing as DLP, might help him to prolongs his career. Much like Pirlo?
However our defence needs protection, and Gerrard's contribution in this area is pretty limited IMO

QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 13 2014, 03:35 PM)
Positives:

1. SAS partnership still looks great.
2. Finally we can win ugly
3. We didnt settle for a draw or a close shave win.
4. Scoring 3 in the second half
5. Winning away at a very very tough venue
We've taken this 'winning ugly' thing to a whole new level, and I like it rclxms.gif
Just outscore the opponents and grab the 3 pts!
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As most would agree, this Liverpool side play some free flowing football. With attractive attacking football fundamental, players are encourage to find space to hurt opposition. This is the result of BR unshackling the attacking part of the team. Our approach under Houllier and Rafa were always measured, control and possession based.

With BR, there is a lax in control and in don't mean it in a negative way, instead, players are encouraged to make runs and creative passes to unlock defences. Unfortunately, this unshackling and creative freedom comes at a cost, a shakier defense - as players took risk and run into empty space which created a void in return, that can be exploited.

As such, like it or not, SG is still the figure head in midfield, being the more measured player. He took calculated risk as oppose to all out attack, and he understand that tracking back is crucial to prevent the defense from being exposed. AS such, the flow of yesterday's game was affected with SG in the side. Not blaming SG in any shape or form, but a lot of fine tuning is needed for this team to mature. I'd say it is still work in progress unless the right personnel can come in. Skrtle, altho is not world class defender, but I think is the best available option, given his balance in both aggression and pace. As such I cant see BR dropping Skrtle, and also part reason we go for Sakho, for his pace, off the ball and aggression. Without a pacey defender, we wont be able to attack as free flow as we possibly can.

Ideally, if we can get someone that fit the profile of Mark Van Bommel or Philipe Cocu, or Hamann, then I'd think we have sufficiently strengthen the squad. Again it is not easy to find the right CM. Manure been searching highlow for the right person to operate from the middle, but no avail, the reason scoles was recalled last season....and did their recent acquisition felaini solve their issue? I am sure not...all in all, January might not be the right time to get the right sort of player to fill the CM position altho I wouldn't mind Kevin DeBruyne, but how I wish...
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If there was a team in the Premier League I f*cking hate with a passion, it's bloody Stoke.

After years of bullying and physically intimidating weaker players, it's about time karma bites them in their juicy fat arses. How many times have we seen them mauling our players and then getting away with murder? Shawcross complaining being wrestled by our player? Never thought I'd live to hear that.

As for Sterling's so-called 'dive', when you're in the penalty box with no backup, you could either hold the ball up or wait for the defender to make a mistake. To be fair to him, there was contact and 9 times out of 10, it's a goal kick but the ref has his own opinion. It's the type of penalty that when awarded against us, we would moan day and night at the referee. Normally, I'd feel sorry for the victims but it's Stoke we're talking about, so f*** them.

Only thing I'm pissed off about the win last night is that our players didn't stop to ask for a cloth when taking a throw in. It's a traditional service available only at the Britannia Stadium, ffs use it.

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Alright alright, on a serious note, it wasn't our best game.

Defence should have done better. Cissokho makes Enrique look like Roberto Carlos and whatever happened to the Glen Johnson of 2012/13? Midfield should have controlled the game better. I personally think that Allen would have offered the solidarity that we sorely lacked yesterday. Gerrard's passing was way off and invited lots of unnecessary pressure when we should be steamrolling Stoke.

Then again, we never did well on a (quote) cold, wet and windy night at Stoke (/quote). Heck, it feel so damn good to beat them in such ugly fashion.

PS: Nice to see the SAS love affair again. Probably will last only until May so enjoy it while you can.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Jan 13 2014, 09:45 PM)
If there was a team in the Premier League I f*cking hate with a passion, it's bloody Stoke.

After years of bullying and physically intimidating weaker players, it's about time karma bites them in their juicy fat arses. How many times have we seen them mauling our players and then getting away with murder? Shawcross complaining being wrestled by our player? Never thought I'd live to hear that.

As for Sterling's so-called 'dive', when you're in the penalty box with no backup, you could either hold the ball up or wait for the defender to make a mistake. To be fair to him, there was contact and 9 times out of 10, it's a goal kick but the ref has his own opinion. It's the type of penalty that when awarded against us, we would moan day and night at the referee. Normally, I'd feel sorry for the victims but it's Stoke we're talking about, so f*** them.

Only thing I'm pissed off about the win last night is that our players didn't stop to ask for a cloth when taking a throw in. It's a traditional service available only at the Britannia Stadium, ffs use it.

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Alright alright, on a serious note, it wasn't our best game.

Defence should have done better. Cissokho makes Enrique look like Roberto Carlos and whatever happened to the Glen Johnson of 2012/13? Midfield should have controlled the game better. I personally think that Allen would have offered the solidarity that we sorely lacked yesterday. Gerrard's passing was way off and invited lots of unnecessary pressure when we should be steamrolling Stoke.

Then again, we never did well on a (quote) cold, wet and windy night at Stoke (/quote). Heck, it feel so damn good to beat them in such ugly fashion.

PS: Nice to see the SAS love affair again. Probably will last only until May so enjoy it while you can.
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LED! You have man up rclxms.gif I like all the colorful language. biggrin.gif

Couldnt agree more. This is one hell of a shite team that I wish would relegate one day. Which team is the enemy of football and friend of rugby? Stokey the dirty dozens. Oh it is still fresh on my mind the Huth Stamp on Suarez.

I am only sorry they didnt get more red cards than they deserved.

On the game, let's be honest. We got bullied big time in defense. Thank God for SAS or else we'll be deep fried like Shrimp. tongue.gif
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why johnson stil able to be in the starting line-up was beyond me. i think the half fit kelly should be better than him.

so whats up with the transfer news now?
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QUOTE(hotboyccds @ Jan 13 2014, 10:56 PM)
why johnson stil able to be in the starting line-up was beyond me. i think the half fit kelly should be better than him.

so whats up with the transfer news now?
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The transfer news is, well, there aint no news. As usual, the agents are asking for a few pennies more and we aint giving them any sweet candies.

So we're gonna play hardball once more but then again, it's probably worth it. I rather have players who are passionate about plying their trade with us than some greedy m0r0ns who are here to ensure they can afford a Bentley and party in downtown every week.
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QUOTE(hotboyccds @ Jan 13 2014, 10:56 PM)
why johnson stil able to be in the starting line-up was beyond me. i think the half fit kelly should be better than him.

so whats up with the transfer news now?
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It still a misery for me. Also, gerrard. No matter how poor he is, he will be automatic starter..no one has ball to drop him and some even afraid to criticize him..imagine if allen play poor like gerrard yesterday.. brows.gif
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why johnson stil able to be in the starting line-up was beyond me. i think the half fit kelly should be better than him.

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kelly nak berlari pun x larat ko cakap better than glen? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 13 2014, 11:27 PM)
It still a misery for me. Also, gerrard. No matter how poor he is, he will be automatic starter..no one has ball to drop him and some even afraid to criticize him..imagine if allen play poor like gerrard yesterday.. brows.gif
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kelly nak berlari pun x larat ko cakap better than glen?  rolleyes.gif
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yes I agree.. should be the other way around.. half fit or 50% glen is better than Kelly..

there is potential in Kelly.. but don't think he offer much offensively compare to glen..
long way to go for Kelly..
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 13 2014, 11:27 PM)
It still a misery for me. Also, gerrard. No matter how poor he is, he will be automatic starter..no one has ball to drop him and some even afraid to criticize him..imagine if allen play poor like gerrard yesterday.. brows.gif
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Well Allen is crocked and Alberto is largely untested so fielding Stevie G was a no brainer considering our options, or lack of it.

Gerrard has served the club with distinction and you won't come across many one club players these days. Carra and Gerrard are a dying breed. I will never resort to calling him names because I have as much respect for him as I do King Kenny. However, if his presence hampers the club, then he should be rotated and used sparingly. When Carra was benched he didn't complain and he did say that if his presence in the team harms the it, he's willing to sit on the bench and bide his time. I don't know if Stevie is the same. He loves the club just as much but his hunger for a Premier League title may just blind him to the obvious fact that the team does have to accommodate him and not the other way around. I reckon it's time he plays to suit the team.
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One other thing I've noticed of late. With Downing having been sold and Enrique crocked, we have no left footers in the team who can take free kicks other than Agger, who isn't an automatic starter these days. Makes it easier for opposing goalkeepers to set up their walls.
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Why are they making such a big deal out of this? Ashley Young has dived when receiving zero contact to earn a penalty as has numerous other players but when Sterling goes down under some contact at least, the ref has to issue a statement ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ony-Taylor.html
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 14 2014, 08:20 AM)
Why are they making such a big deal out of this? Ashley Young has dived when receiving zero contact to earn a penalty as has numerous other players but when Sterling goes down under some contact at least, the ref has to issue a statement ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ony-Taylor.html
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Bro, if you look at it on a positive side, the ref is owning up to his mistake. I like that.

I wish the linesman that ruled Raheem's goal vs MC will man up and do the same.

Same goes for Mike Jones in Newcastle Vs MC for ruling Tiote's goal off which was a huge mistake.

The only difference is, Anthony Taylor has the right attitude.
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Gerrard has the capabilities to be a dm.In fact he can be one of the best dm around.The only problem is whether he can curb his instincts to go forward at times which will leave the defence exposed.
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Bro, if you look at it on a positive side, the ref is owning up to his mistake. I like that.

I wish the linesman that ruled Raheem's goal vs MC will man up and do the same.

Same goes for Mike Jones in Newcastle Vs MC for ruling Tiote's goal off which was a huge mistake.

The only difference is, Anthony Taylor has the right attitude.
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On the flipside, the authority of the referee will always be questioned if they keep fessing up to making bad decisions. I do want match officials to apologise since managers and players have to but I can understand why they don't usually. If a ref apologises for every mistake he makes, players and managers will pounce on him each time he makes a big decision like awarding a penalty.
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jan 13 2014, 06:40 PM)
As most would agree, this Liverpool side play some free flowing football. With attractive attacking football fundamental, players are encourage to find space to hurt opposition. This is the result of BR unshackling the attacking part of the team. Our approach under Houllier and Rafa were always measured, control and possession based.

With BR, there is a lax in control and in don't mean it in a negative way, instead, players are encouraged to make runs and creative passes to unlock defences. Unfortunately, this unshackling and creative freedom comes at a cost, a shakier defense - as players took risk and run into empty space which created a void in return, that can be exploited.

As such, like it or not, SG is still the figure head in midfield, being the more measured player. He took calculated risk as oppose to all out attack, and he understand that tracking back is crucial to prevent the defense from being exposed. AS such, the flow of yesterday's game was affected with SG in the side. Not blaming SG in any shape or form, but a lot of fine tuning is needed for this team to mature. I'd say it is still work in progress unless the right personnel can come in. Skrtle, altho is not world class defender, but I think is the best available option, given his balance in both aggression and pace. As such I cant see BR dropping Skrtle, and also part reason we go for Sakho, for his pace, off the ball and aggression. Without a pacey defender, we wont be able to attack as free flow as we possibly can.

Ideally, if we can get someone that fit the profile of Mark Van Bommel or Philipe Cocu, or Hamann, then I'd think we have sufficiently strengthen the squad. Again it is not easy to find the right CM. Manure been searching highlow for the right person to operate from the middle, but no avail, the reason scoles was recalled last season....and did their recent acquisition felaini solve their issue? I am sure not...all in all, January might not be the right time to get the right sort of player to fill the CM position altho I wouldn't mind Kevin DeBruyne, but how I wish...
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A lot of goal conceded, come from DM or CB not closing down opponent attacker, clearly seen with 2 Stoke's goals.
This is the mistake that Liv need to rectify.
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The criticism on Gerrard is not justified.

The squad is thin, if not playing Gerrard at DM or CM, who should be the starting XI?

Even I viewed Gerrard had a sub-par game against Stoke (number of miss-passes), there is no other better candidate to fill up the boot.
Gerrard can still quite good is spraying diagonal passes around, that lead to assist on goal.

You can't expect an energetic run, box to box from a 33 years old midfielder, scoring screamer 20~30 yards goal like last time out, carry the team single handed.

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Jan 14 2014, 09:39 AM)
Gerrard has the capabilities to be a dm.In fact he can be one of the best dm around.The only problem is whether he can curb his instincts to go forward at times which will leave the defence exposed.
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gerrad can be our yaya toure.. its all about going up at the right time.. he can even be better than yaya with his shooting range
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The criticism on Gerrard is not justified.

The squad is thin, if not playing Gerrard at DM or CM, who should be the starting XI?

Even I viewed Gerrard had a sub-par game against Stoke (number of miss-passes), there is no other better candidate to fill up the boot.
Gerrard can still quite good is spraying diagonal passes around, that lead to assist on goal.

You can't expect an energetic run, box to box from a 33 years old midfielder, scoring screamer 20~30 yards goal like last time out, carry the team single handed.
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honestly unlike most fans.. I am not a fan of gerrard.. due to his inconsistency and don't think he is vocal enuff as a captain..

however.. his below par performance is still better than lucas n allen..and he has admitted that he need abit of time to adapt to the defensive role..


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can lfc.. charge the fa back over the comment for sterling con for penalty..

wtf.. ref makes wrong decision others cannot comment.. then they say got conned.. they r some joke
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The criticism on Gerrard is not justified.

The squad is thin, if not playing Gerrard at DM or CM, who should be the starting XI?

Even I viewed Gerrard had a sub-par game against Stoke (number of miss-passes), there is no other better candidate to fill up the boot.
Gerrard can still quite good is spraying diagonal passes around, that lead to assist on goal.

You can't expect an energetic run, box to box from a 33 years old midfielder, scoring screamer 20~30 yards goal like last time out, carry the team single handed.
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No, we are not expecting him to be 10 years younger, but we do expect him to not give possession away unnecessary and draw pressure back to us, which he did many times on Saturday. You yourself mentioned in your previous post that the DM is part of the fault for the goals. Gerrard WAS the deepest midfielder.

Contrary to what you have said, we do have options. We could have started Henderson and Lucas in the middle, why not? I rather take safe passes than what Gerrard offered on Saturday.

All I was saying is Gerrard had an off game. The difference between Gerrard having an off game today than 10 years ago is that, with the lack of pace and legs, he will be a bigger burden to the team. I'm sure when he returns to his usual sharpness, he would spray those long, early passes. But that doesn't mean he was above criticism on Saturday.
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If I review SG as a player, I can hardly find any fault both technically and physically. He is at the right height, strong physical strength, great ability with his feet...not to mention 2 footed packed with power. A player that excel in open play as well as set pieces, ohh and nearly miss out - a decent header of the ball too....

I must admit that since SG return in the match vs Stoke, our midfield is less fluent, with some dynamic movement curtailed to a certain degree...but as I said earlier, there will be a lot of fine tuning and education from BR's part to make it work...the switch from attack to defend and vice versa is not as easy as a flip of the switch...I am sure SG can play the role of the DM or even Sweeper if needed, he is after all a marvelous tackler of the ball....I am just glad that BR sent out the message that SG will play a deep lying midfield..it is also a message to prospective players that the position is vacant and that we need strengthening. You'll never know whether the name SG will scare away good prospects, and how SG will affect them, just look at Hendo and Aquaman...




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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jan 14 2014, 12:13 PM)
If I review SG as a player, I can hardly find any fault both technically and physically. He is at the right height, strong physical strength, great ability with his feet...not to mention 2 footed packed with power. A player that excel in open play as well as set pieces, ohh and nearly miss out - a decent header of the ball too....

I must admit that since SG return in the match vs Stoke, our midfield is less fluent, with some dynamic movement curtailed to a certain degree...but as I said earlier, there will be a lot of fine tuning and education from BR's part to make it work...the switch from attack to defend and vice versa is not as easy as a flip of the switch...I am sure SG can play the role of the DM or even Sweeper if needed, he is after all a marvelous tackler of the ball....I am just glad that BR sent out the message that SG will play a deep lying midfield..it is also a message to prospective players that the position is vacant and that we need strengthening. You'll never know whether the name SG will scare away good prospects, and how SG will affect them, just look at Hendo and Aquaman...
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Good points. But I do wonder if that midfield configuration was just a one off thing to cope with Stoke's physical/aerial threat or something we're looking to make permanent. It worked against Stoke because Gerrard being over 6 feet tall could slot in between the 2 CBs and become a 3rd CB. He's got the height and aggression to win most aerial duels. But it's worth pointing out that his mirror opponent was Charlie Adam who did us some favor by drifting out wide (tho credit to Charlie, he did torment Cissokho). And even then, Charlie Adam was able to capitalize from Hendo/Gerrard mistake. In any case, the top half of the table don't play like Stoke and will have the right personnel to counter Gerrard so I'm incline to believe that we may see further tinkering from BR.
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Been wanting to see Gerrard play a deeper role from the start of the season despite numerous suggestions from fans and pundits that he should take up a spot behind the forwards. Why don't I think this will work?

Simple. We play a high pressing game as does a number of Premiership sides. Thus, we need players serving on our front line to be quick and mobile, not giving defenders time to dally on the ball. Just as how the big man - small man combination has been phased out, supporting strikers that do not have pace are a dying breed - think Bergkamp, Sheringham or Litmanen. Thus it makes sense that Stevie drop further back in the same fashion Ruud Gullit did. He should reinvent himself to be a Xabi Alonso, interchanging with Lucas and allow Hendo to take up his former role. This is if we do field Gerrard.
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No, we are not expecting him to be 10 years younger, but we do expect him to not give possession away unnecessary and draw pressure back to us, which he did many times on Saturday. You yourself mentioned in your previous post that the DM is part of the fault for the goals. Gerrard WAS the deepest midfielder.

Contrary to what you have said, we do have options. We could have started Henderson and Lucas in the middle, why not? I rather take safe passes than what Gerrard offered on Saturday.

All I was saying is Gerrard had an off game. The difference between Gerrard having an off game today than 10 years ago is that, with the lack of pace and legs, he will be a bigger burden to the team. I'm sure when he returns to his usual sharpness, he would spray those long, early passes. But that doesn't mean he was above criticism on Saturday.
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You have the point, I also had the same view about Gerrard sub-par performance.
I don't say Gerrard had a good game. smile.gif

Lack of fast closing down, mobility and miss-passes were valid criticism.

Just prior before the match, if you are the manager, you need to draft starting XI, if put Henderson and Lucas in the middle, means Gerrard on the bench, who to slot in?
Sturridge (just return from injury, don't think so), it just means drop Gerrard and put Aspas or Alberto?

The point I highlighted is that prior before the match start, we do not know Gerrard will deliver a sub-par performance or not.
Just like below review mentioned. smile.gif


QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jan 14 2014, 12:13 PM)
If I review SG as a player, I can hardly find any fault both technically and physically. He is at the right height, strong physical strength, great ability with his feet...not to mention 2 footed packed with power. A player that excel in open play as well as set pieces, ohh and nearly miss out - a decent header of the ball too....


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honestly unlike most fans.. I am not a fan of gerrard.. due to his inconsistency and don't think he is vocal enuff as a captain..

however.. his below par performance is still better than lucas n allen..and he has admitted that he need abit of time to adapt to the defensive role..
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I'm assuming you are referring to the current Gerrard and not the one man task force of old? I've watched Stevie G grow as a player and mature into a captain from when he was a 17 year old looking to break through into the first team. He has been consistent over the years and has single handedly brought the club back from the brink of defeat. Currently however, he is a pale shadow of his former self which is to be expected. Still, he has a massive influence over the other players at the club. Suarez himself said that Stevie played a big part in him staying and younger lads always talk about what an honour it is to train beside him. He still has a role to play at the club albeit more so off the pitch.

He isn't a vocal lad, this I agree but he's not that sort of captain. He leads by example. If he were a civil war officer, he'd be leading the Calvary from the front. Look back to Istanbul and see how he rallied the players and crowd after he scored our first goal. Jamie Carragher was the perfect foil for him. The soul to LFC's heart. The lad who never stopped barking instructions. The Roberto Ayala of English football. Without Carra, Anfield is a quieter place.

Fernando Torres was club captain as a teenager but he's usually as quiet as a mouse in the pitch. However, he was Atletico's best player. Some lead by example and the rest follow. Some bark instructions for others to follow like Bryan Robson.

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Been wanting to see Gerrard play a deeper role from the start of the season despite numerous suggestions from fans and pundits that he should take up a spot behind the forwards.  Why don't I think this will work?

Simple. We play a high pressing game as does a number of Premiership sides. Thus, we need players serving on our front line to be quick and mobile, not giving defenders time to dally on the ball. Just as how the big man - small man combination has been phased out, supporting strikers that do not have pace are a dying breed - think Bergkamp, Sheringham or Litmanen. Thus it makes sense that Stevie drop further back in the same fashion Ruud Gullit did. He should reinvent himself to be a Xabi Alonso, interchanging with Lucas and allow Hendo to take up his former role. This is if we do field Gerrard.
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I think it depends on the system Duke. Back at the start of the season, we tend to use the 4231 with Sturridge as the lone striker and then the 352 when Suarez returned from suspension. With 4231, Gerrard didn't play behind the forward because Coutinho is simply better than him at that role. Maybe not shooting wise but Coutinho has superior ball control and short passing skill that makes him the ideal player to operate in tight spaces. Similarly, the 352 also relied on 2-1 configuration with Gerrard and Lucas deployed behind Coutinho. It's also worth mentioning that Hendo was deployed on the right side for a number of games - even as a wingback when we used 352.

But we have since revert to the more fluid 433 and the midfield configuration changes from 2-1 to 1-2. Instead of 2 deep midfielders supporting the AM, we now use 1 deep midfielder with 2 box to box midfielders. Lucas taking up the pivot DM role with Allen and Hendo as the 2 supporting central midfielders. This pushes Coutinho out wide but it also opens up space in the middle for the 2 CMs to operate. Resulting us gaining more possession and control over the other teams. It's been working well mainly because of Allen and Hendo are 2 mobile and energetic midfielders who could press all day long.

I think it's clear that BR still prefer the 1-2 combo as he deployed Lucas alongside Hendo against Stoke. Gerrard was okay-ish as DM but I have a feeling he only played there because BR felt he was more than capable to handle Charlie Adam. It will be interesting to see if Gerrard still plays deep against stronger sides.
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gerrard cannot operate as the lone DM. He's too slow nowadays for the defensive part of DM. He'd be ok as the playmaker in a 2DM 1 AM setup (Lucas + Gerrard at the moment), but then you lose the high pressing of 2 advanced midfield.
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You have the point, I also had the same view about Gerrard sub-par performance.
I don't say Gerrard had a good game.  smile.gif

Lack of fast closing down, mobility and miss-passes were valid criticism.

Just prior before the match, if you are the manager, you need to draft starting XI, if put Henderson and Lucas in the middle, means Gerrard on the bench, who to slot in?
Sturridge (just return from injury, don't think so), it just means drop Gerrard and put Aspas or Alberto?

The point I highlighted is that prior before the match start, we do not know Gerrard will deliver a sub-par performance or not.
Just like below review mentioned.  smile.gif
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But you just said the criticism for Gerrard is not justified yet you outlined some criticisms? I personally thought he should have started the game as there was no other alternatives and i think he did well for most part of the game. But he was also sloppy at times and were involved in at least 2 of the goals we conceded.
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I'm assuming you are referring to the current Gerrard and not the one man task force of old? I've watched Stevie G grow as a player and mature into a captain from when he was a 17 year old looking to break through into the first team. He has been consistent over the years and has single handedly brought the club back from the brink of defeat. Currently however, he is a pale shadow of his former self which is to be expected. Still, he has a massive influence over the other players at the club. Suarez himself said that Stevie played a big part in him staying and younger lads always talk about what an honour it is to train beside him. He still has a role to play at the club albeit more so off the pitch.

He isn't a vocal lad, this I agree but he's not that sort of captain. He leads by example. If he were a civil war officer, he'd be leading the Calvary from the front. Look back to Istanbul and see how he rallied the players and crowd after he scored our first goal. Jamie Carragher was the perfect foil for him. The soul to LFC's heart. The lad who never stopped barking instructions. The Roberto Ayala of English football. Without Carra, Anfield is a quieter place.

Fernando Torres was club captain as a teenager but he's usually as quiet as a mouse in the pitch. However, he was Atletico's best player. Some lead by example and the rest follow. Some bark instructions for others to follow like Bryan Robson.
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i strongly believe if there is no gerrard for the past decade, liverpool is just a mediocre team team like newcastle or everton until now.

he single handedly brought liverpool back into glory. the 2005 champs league is the turning point for this team after the darkness era of 90's.

his passion n love for the club change the fate of this team, without him, there will be no:

- 2005 champs league
- 2006 FA cup
- gerrard + torres combo, 2nd place in 08-09 BPL
- suarez might already leave last summer

imho, the current liverpool that v are loving would not ever exist, if this man is never shown up for the last decade!

the fate of this club will be totally different without him.

and of coz he single handedly make me fall in love with this team, after this goal




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But you just said the criticism for Gerrard is not justified yet you outlined some criticisms? I personally thought he should have started the game as there was no other alternatives and i think he did well for most part of the game. But he was also sloppy at times and were involved in at least 2 of the goals we conceded.
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I posted when I read below 2 comments. smile.gif
Especially dropping Gerrard from starting XI in Stoke match. (who know Gerrard can be sloppy and not provide diagonal passes or through passes that lead to goal assist in the match before the match started?),

There is not many option if the manager want to draft the start XI, to be fair.

If not starting Gerrard and Johnson, I cannot brain other option with current set up and personality that Liv current available.

Somemore, Gerrard did score a penalty with a cool head instead blast it (just like Palace penalty vs Spurs match, I watched the match). It seems easy in TV, but many did blast it to the roof of stadium or wide easily.

Gerrard was poor in the match, end of story. Never did I say Gerrard had a good match.

Only if Gerrard consistently poor across, only then the criticism of dropping Gerrard is justified.
Gerrard is still the leading goal assist player in the team so far, and a player that still showing ability to provide dangerous cross in for attacker to score. (flash in my mind was Sturridge goals against Everton in 3-3)

QUOTE(hotboyccds @ Jan 13 2014, 10:56 PM)
why johnson stil able to be in the starting line-up was beyond me. i think the half fit kelly should be better than him.

so whats up with the transfer news now?
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It still a misery for me. Also, gerrard. No matter how poor he is, he will be automatic starter..no one has ball to drop him and some even afraid to criticize him..imagine if allen play poor like gerrard yesterday.. brows.gif
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Ahh so you were talking about dropping Gerrard from starting 11. Fair enough then. I thought you meant criticizing Gerrard in general.
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To be fair, I believe every Liverpool fans respect Gerrard presence and contribution, and yea Liverpool will not be like today if there is no Gerrard. But don't you think we should be fair to the other players? Apart from the penalty that day, Gerrard was kinda poor, lots of miss pass and lost of possession, I am suggesting that not to drop Gerrard from starting 11 instantly, but sub him off when his performance is below par.

Didn't you guys notice that before he injured, he started every game, and played full 90mins even though every game he display different performance? I am well supporting and agree on rotating them, but not simply bench him. Whoever display below par performance, sub him out, just like how Carragher was benched previously and he didn't complain because its for the greater good for the team.
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Let's not joke ourselves... Besides the likes of Suarez and Sturridge, Gerrard is still the bargaining chip we use to persuade player joining us... Who doesn't want to play with the Captain of England?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 14 2014, 04:02 PM)
I posted when I read below 2 comments.  smile.gif
Especially dropping Gerrard from starting XI in Stoke match. (who know Gerrard can be sloppy and not provide diagonal passes or through passes that lead to goal assist in the match before the match started?),

There is not many option if the manager want to draft the start XI, to be fair.

If not starting Gerrard and Johnson, I cannot brain other option with current set up and personality that Liv current available.

Somemore, Gerrard did score a penalty with a cool head instead blast it (just like Palace penalty vs Spurs match, I watched the match). It seems easy in TV, but many did blast it to the roof of stadium or wide easily.

Gerrard was poor in the match, end of story. Never did I say Gerrard had a good match.

Only if Gerrard consistently poor across, only then the criticism of dropping Gerrard is justified.
Gerrard is still the leading goal assist player in the team so far, and a player that still showing ability to provide dangerous cross in for attacker to score. (flash in my mind was Sturridge goals against Everton in 3-3)
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Personally, I haven no problems starting Gerrard. While his performance this season has been a hit or miss, whenever he's given the space to roam, he has been outstanding.
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To be fair, I believe every Liverpool fans respect Gerrard presence and contribution, and yea Liverpool will not be like today if there is no Gerrard. But don't you think we should be fair to the other players? Apart from the penalty that day, Gerrard was kinda poor, lots of miss pass and lost of possession, I am suggesting that not to drop Gerrard from starting 11 instantly, but sub him off when his performance is below par.

Didn't you guys notice that before he injured, he started every game, and played full 90mins even though every game he display different performance? I am well supporting and agree on rotating them, but not simply bench him. Whoever display below par performance, sub him out, just like how Carragher was benched previously and he didn't complain because its for the greater good for the team.
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Former Liverpool winger Luis Garcia has announced his retirement at the age of 35.

The Spain international scored the notorious "ghost goal" that took the Reds past Chelsea and into the 2005 Champions League final.

Garcia spent three seasons at Anfield after manager Rafa Benitez brought him to the club from Barcelona for six million pounds in 2004.

The 35-year-old scored 30 times in 121 appearances for Liverpool -- but his most famous effort was one that Blues boss Jose Mourinho claimed should not have counted.

It came in the second leg of the Champions League semifinal between Benitez’s Liverpool and Mourinho’s Chelsea in May 2005.

With the score at 0-0 following the first leg, Milan Baros knocked the ball past keeper Petr Cech, and Garcia got a touch to claim the only goal of the tie.

However, Mourinho was convinced that William Gallas had hooked the ball away before it crossed the line, and later described it as a “ghost goal."

Garcia helped Liverpool to win the Champions League in 2005, but missed their defeat to AC Milan in the 2007 final because he was recovered from cruciate knee ligament damage. He also missed the 2006 FA Cup final win over West Ham because he was suspended.

In a statement on his website, Garcia said: “Today I’ve decided to retire as a professional footballer, thanking the interest of the teams that talked to me in recent weeks, but I think it’s time to end this important chapter in my life and move to the next page.”

He also paid tribute to Liverpool, saying: “[Thanks] to Liverpool FC, for making me pass through the history of international football and be part of the Red family forever.

“[And thanks] to each and every one of the people over 17 years of [my] career that have been with me, have helped me and supported me at every stage I have lived, and although not mentioned one by one, I will be forever grateful.”

Garcia began his career in the youth set-up at Barcelona and progressed to their B team before leaving to join Atletico Madrid in 2002 after loan spells at Valladolid, Toledo and Tenerife, where he first played for Benitez.

He returned to Barcelona in 2003, before following Benitez to Anfield a year later.

After leaving Liverpool, Garcia went back to Atletico Madrid, before finishing his career with spells at Racing Santander, Greek club Panathinaikos and Mexican sides Puebla and Pumas UNAM.

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YNMA

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The best attacking power team bar city...if u have world class midfielder at his prime to complement it...better
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Give the captain a break. I think too much focus has been on him. If he's not excellent, he's poor. Come on guys. He's not at his best, no doubt. He's not at his preferred position, no doubt.

Is he gonna be starting as DM with Lucas in every game? I certainly hope not! I hope to see him in a more central role distributing long dangerous passes.

The game against Stoke, he was basically covering up with Lucas and that was assigned to him. Let's hope it's a one-off. Opinion starts to swing when he comes back strongly with a few good performances.

So let's be realistic. Continue the system that has started strongly from the beginning and that is SAS + Couts + Gerrard.

The headache here is fitting Sterling and Hendo in after Dannyboy has return. Well, it's a welcome problem isnt it? That means we have options.

If we cant find the giant DM we needed, hopefully Big G can turn into that. But he gotta need games to turn into that.
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Out of 3 captains we have in squad, only Agger didn't vote for Suarez...Then again we all know Suarez has no chance at all of winning....
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Let's not joke ourselves... Besides the likes of Suarez and Sturridge, Gerrard is still the bargaining chip we use to persuade player joining us... Who doesn't want to play with the Captain of England?
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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/footb..._medium=twitter

Out of 3 captains we have in squad, only Agger didn't vote for Suarez...Then again we all know Suarez has no chance at all of winning....
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That's why he needs and wants CL football. If we can't get it this season, time to say goodbye.

Rodgers really need to speed up with the transfers. Don't hold back on the money FSG! If we want to remain in CL spot, we need to invest on quality players.

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Our transfer news seems like a bit low this days. Now we already in the mid of January and no players coming?
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Guys, I dream last night Liverpool get no.4 at end of the season. And I straight away wake up and telling myself "Impossible. Should get higher." tongue.gif

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Guys, I dream last night Liverpool get no.4 at end of the season. And I straight away wake up and telling myself "Impossible. Should get higher."  tongue.gif
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i dont think so there will be any signing this month. some source said we dont have a realistic target yet and BR don't want to spend the money just for the sake of buying players.
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i dont think so there will be any signing this month. some source said we dont have a realistic target yet and BR don't want to spend the money just for the sake of buying players.
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I think there will be at least a signing. Our squad is very thin now.

If LFC really aiming for UCL , they need to sign a new player.

For me the reason LFC so quiet now is because last time when we hu-ha , every club took the players from us.
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everyone praise sturridge and coutinho, saying still can get bargain in Jan. So all jack up price la tongue.gif
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Our transfer news seems like a bit low this days.  Now we already in the mid of January and no players coming?
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Maybe a strategic loan player  is on the way...  brows.gif Looking at previous deal, maybe BR will be looking at Stamford Bridge again...  doh.gif
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everyone praise sturridge and coutinho, saying still can get bargain in Jan. So all jack up price la tongue.gif
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We were very lucky.

Well, let's hope another average Joe who is actually very talented but not been on the radar is available somewhere for BR to sign. tongue.gif

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i strongly believe if there is no gerrard for the past decade, liverpool is just a mediocre team team like newcastle or everton until now.

he single handedly brought liverpool back into glory. the 2005 champs league is the turning point for this team after the darkness era of 90's.

his passion n love for the club change the fate of this team, without him, there will be no:

- 2005 champs league
- 2006 FA cup
- gerrard + torres combo, 2nd place in 08-09 BPL
- suarez might already leave last summer

imho, the current liverpool that v are loving would not ever exist, if this man is never shown up for the last decade!

the fate of this club will be totally different without him.

and of coz he single handedly make me fall in love with this team, after this goal


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I think you misunderstood the discussion here. No one deny what a gift gerrard to us. His contribution, his passion, his goal, his tackling, his shooting is WORLD class. But. LATELY, gerrard been degrading and its obvious. He cannot press higher, or even chase the opponent in full 90 minutes. When he injured we see that the team is more mobile and play really good football again the like m.city and chelsea. Imagine gerrard has to chase hazard or silva/navas during counterattack?scary right?
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wat i kenot brain is why gerrard shuld play as deep midfield.. why cant no 10 role>?
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wat i kenot brain is why gerrard shuld play as deep midfield.. why cant no 10 role>?
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Sometimes I wonder too, off form or not, Gerrard is still a great distributor. He isn't as creative as Coutinho on his feet but he is in my opinion still a better passer than Coutinho and most definitely a better goal scorer.
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 15 2014, 01:51 PM)
Sometimes I wonder too, off form or not, Gerrard is still a great distributor. He isn't as creative as Coutinho on his feet but he is in my opinion still a better passer than Coutinho and most definitely a better goal scorer.
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u know wat.. coutinho bring more shit whenever i see him play lately.. he tend to make more shoot rather than pass.. he's the worst the shooter on par with allen... u'll see how frustating his teammate when he take the shot
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I just realised that up until 21 games played, we have the best defence (at HOME) in the League with only 6 conceded (same goes for Arsenal & Man City).

And we have the best attack AWAY from home with 24 goals scored.

We really need to improve on defending away from home if we are to maintain being in top 4, or even challenging for the title this season.

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wat i kenot brain is why gerrard shuld play as deep midfield.. why cant no 10 role>?
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Here's the way I see it as explained before. Just my opinion of course.

The game has evolved and it's continued to do so. In the old days, the traditional English centreforward consisted of a bloke who was tall and built like a tank, much like Duncan Ferguson or Jon Toshack. Some teams still adopt the "Route 1" approach like Stoke, hence why they field Peter Crouch or Bolton who used Kevin Davies as a battering ram. Since then, the more successful sides have deployed forwards with not just brawn but with some pace as well. Why? Since the days of Ian Rush, forwards were required to defend as well and hence they needed more mobility. This is also no doubt in part to the implementation of the offside rule so teams could no longer park their skyscrapers in front of opposition goals. Forwards now had to track back and get back into onside positions, and then toe the line, looking to break the offside trap when their team was in possession.

Back to your question then. Gerrard still offers bursts of pace but he no longer maintains that for as long as he did. As like most of the top sides, BR favours a high pressing game which is why you see the likes of Suarez, Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge, Allen and Henderson burst a lung to close down the opposition on their own half, often chasing down one centreback after another. This requires that you have a high level of fitness and stamina. When your forwards and midfielders cannot keep up with their opposite numbers, it places more stress on the defenders.

This article was written in 2013 and notice what they all have in common? http://magazine.topman.com/category/lifest...world-football/

They are all fairly quick and industrious. Because teams close down so quickly these days, players aren't afforded a lot of time on the ball which makes someone like Coutinho suitable for the no. 10 role. He's quick but not only in terms of pace, but in terms of playing his passes. When you are so high up the pitch, you aren't afforded the time to pick out a killer pass. A simple flick or dink can send your teammate through and this is where Gerrard isn't as effective at the young Brazilian. Stevie G was renowned for his lung bursting runs forward, taking huge strides with his long legs, powering the ball towards goal after locking in, not for his ability to unlock tight defences with a quick instinctive short pass. He favours what was coined "the Hollywood pass".

For these reasons, I'm more comfortable with him playing deep.
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The intent of deploying Gerrard closer to the CBs is understandable but whether he cna play there effectively over the long run is another question. I think he can just about play the role but he's got a long way to go before reaching the Pirlo or Xavi or Xabi level. Mind you the likes of Xabi and Pirlo took years to hone their craft, Gerrard hasn't got the time on his side. To illustrate the challenge, take a look at the following pic.

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 15 2014, 02:57 PM)
The intent of deploying Gerrard closer to the CBs is understandable but whether he cna play there effectively over the long run is another question. I think he can just about play the role but he's got a long way to go before reaching the Pirlo or Xavi or Xabi level. Mind you the likes of Xabi and Pirlo took years to hone their craft, Gerrard hasn't got the time on his side. To illustrate the challenge, take a look at the following pic.

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Against Stoke, what was noticeable was that he often took up a position between the two centrebacks who drifted out wide as they have been since BR took over. In a sense, Gerrard did play the role of the now defunct, "Libero" or sweeper. In this regard he offers something that Lucas or any other defensive midfielder doesn't. The sweeper used to be the deepest player who would dictate play right from the back because he offers a range of passing that other defenders do not. The benefit that I can see from having someone in the sweeper position is that he can send long, raking passes up the park quicker and with more accuracy than if we were to have say Martin Skrtel punt a Hail Mary pass forward. Only difference is he doesn't start as a sweeper so what? A "false no 5"?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 15 2014, 04:08 PM)
Against Stoke, what was noticeable was that he often took up a position between the two centrebacks who drifted out wide as they have been since BR took over. In a sense, Gerrard did play the role of the now defunct, "Libero" or sweeper. In this regard he offers something that Lucas or any other defensive midfielder doesn't. The sweeper used to be the deepest player who would dictate play right from the back because he offers a range of passing that other defenders do not. The benefit that I can see from having someone in the sweeper position is that he can send long, raking passes up the park quicker and with more accuracy than if we were to have say Martin Skrtel punt a Hail Mary pass forward. Only difference is he doesn't start as a sweeper so what? A "false no 5"?
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I agree that he did look to release the forwards a lot quicker with long range passes - like a quarterback. In theory, it could catch a lot of defense off guard especially against teams that play with a high line. He did this a few times against Stoke but a lot of those passes were incomplete as depicted by the analysis i posted. It's definitely a work in progress and i wouldn't pit all the blames solely on him because the other midfielders didn't look as comfortable themselves. It's not just Gerrard that needs to settle in his new role, Lucas too has to get used to his new forward midfield role. In a way, it's a great opportunity for both Gerrard and Lucas (both of whom can be said to have stagnated) to reinvent themselves. It's ironic that both of these players may end up reversing their roles - hopefully it will come full circle and to our benefit.

If it works out, it will be one of BR's most amazing coaching achievements.
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Based on current play, a number of players need to adapt and quickly, in order to maintain our sort of attacking play, these includes Hendo, SG, Allen and Lucas...I cant emphasize enuf that we are both short and sufficient in the middle of the park, depending on what formation we play with...but one type of player we definitely cant get enough is Coutinho type - more fluid, excellent control & 1st touch...good passing range, altho mostly within the box or just outside, a softer type of player. A good comparison is between ronaldo and messi...where the former is more power packed, strong running and turns, bullet of a shot and thunderous free kick, whereas the latter - is softer, more placing than power, breathtaking 1st touch and fluid play with constant interplay, not to mention an eye for quick pass into the channel...For me gerard is more ronaldo-ish...than say messi-ish...age is also unforgiving, as such, i would say no no to play SG in advance role..as he neither the 1st touch nor fluidity...not least, SG's dink and thru passing is unimpressive.
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holtby will suit our playstyle although we may dream to get him
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Transfers or rather the lack of it have been really disappointing so far.

This is the best chance to cement top 4 place or if luck favouring a title challenge.I am suspecting it is FSG who are reluctant to spend.
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/9117282/

A good read about news position..he complete pass is shocking in last match and some error leading to stoke goal.. He need to adapt fast there. Lost balll in our defensive area can cause us goal..
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I think moving SG to DM is a brilliant idea...

Firstly it can prolong SG career... Need lesser stamina... Lesser running..
His long range pass is perfect for the role... Best for fast attacking attribute...
SG is tough... Strong in tackling.... Good header of the ball....
SG definitely got all the attributes to be a good DM...

He just need a few matches to get used to it... To program his mind to being a DM....
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 15 2014, 05:16 PM)
I agree that he did look to release the forwards a lot quicker with long range passes - like a quarterback. In theory, it could catch a lot of defense off guard especially against teams that play with a high line. He did this a few times against Stoke but a lot of those passes were incomplete as depicted by the analysis i posted. It's definitely a work in progress and i wouldn't pit all the blames solely on him because the other midfielders didn't look as comfortable themselves. It's not just Gerrard that needs to settle in his new role, Lucas too has to get used to his new forward midfield role. In a way, it's a great opportunity for both Gerrard and Lucas (both of whom can be said to have stagnated) to reinvent themselves. It's ironic that both of these players may end up reversing their roles - hopefully it will come full circle and to our benefit.

If it works out, it will be one of BR's most amazing coaching achievements.
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Indeed but we are basing our comments on the Stoke game alone as it was the first time he's been played that deep. I do agree however when counterattacking, you sometimes do not have much to aim at and yet, you need to play a quick pass thereby affecting your pass completion percentage. We play much more counterattacking football now than we did under Rafa so Xabi was afforded more time to pick out a pass and I'm assuming he therefore had more targets to pick out and we would often venture forward patiently unlike now. In a sense, Stevie has to take more risks which is fine when we're counterattacking. It's when we the opposition has tracked back and we are building up our attack that I don't want Stevie playing suicidal passes, leaving us exposed as our fullbacks are usually in the opposition half at this point.

In the case of Lucas, I hope it's a case of riding a bicycle. Earlier footage of him playing for Gremio depict a box-to-box type midfielder who would burst forward from midfield into the opposition box. As Anfield, seeing Lucas take a shot on goal is as rare as a sighting of Bigfoot.
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Gerrard n Agger didnt vote for Suarez haha. Only Skrtel did.
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This is no way rivals Stevie's call to arms in the tunnel during half-time in Istanbul but still, I like to hear managers challenge their players all the time.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/45...Brendan-Rodgers

Our lads showed some bottle alright.
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Gerrard n Agger didnt vote for Suarez haha. Only Skrtel did.
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As based on the previous season/calendar year, perhaps.

Suarez has no, well not much rivals this year, if he keeps this up, with a good showing with uraguay. There is little to dispute the fact he is indeed the ONE for top honours

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It was after all the 2013 BaloonDoor award.

Ronaldo is top tbf..Suarez is close but no way I would put Suarez 1st. Skrtel was obviously was too impressed with the nutmegs he had to endure during training.

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Luis Garcia's retirement has got me reminiscing about Istanbul. Each time I get frustrated or disheartened, I remember what Maradona said.

Diego Maradona: "The English club proved that miracles really do exist. I've now made Liverpool my English team. They showed that football is the most beautiful sport of all. You knew they could defend but the team showed they could play too and wrote a page in the history books. The match will last forever. The Liverpool supporters didn't let me go to sleep the night before. There were 10 of them to every three Milan supporters. They showed their unconditional support at half-time when they were losing 3-0 and still they didn't stop singing."




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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 16 2014, 03:21 PM)
Luis Garcia's retirement has got me reminiscing about Istanbul. Each time I get frustrated or disheartened, I remember what Maradona said.

Diego Maradona: "The English club proved that miracles really do exist. I've now made Liverpool my English team. They showed that football is the most beautiful sport of all. You knew they could defend but the team showed they could play too and wrote a page in the history books. The match will last forever. The Liverpool supporters didn't let me go to sleep the night before. There were 10 of them to every three Milan supporters. They showed their unconditional support at half-time when they were losing 3-0 and still they didn't stop singing."
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In my opinion it isn't as much an observation of all Liverpool fans as it is a code we should learn to live by. How many of us here would have stood up and sung our anthem given the circumstances? I had my head in my hands and was slumped in my chair. I use quotes like these for inspiration as I would like nothing more than to emulate the passion and undying loyalty displayed by those who were at the Attaturk that day, and of those who travel to follow the team, or stand at the Kop and sing YNWA after each game, win, lose or draw.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 16 2014, 03:40 PM)
In my opinion it isn't as much an observation of all Liverpool fans as it is a code we should learn to live by. How many of us here would have stood up and sung our anthem given the circumstances? I had my head in my hands and was slumped in my chair. I use quotes like these for inspiration as I would like nothing more than to emulate the passion and undying loyalty displayed by those who were at the Attaturk that day, and of those who travel to follow the team, or stand at the Kop and sing YNWA after each game, win, lose or draw.
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Actually when I used the term 'us', I dont literally mean you, me and dillon over there.

But the Liverpool supporters, especially those that patron the KOP end week in week out (and midweek).

I mean so far, I have not willingly stop watching a Liverpool game at any point just because we were behind. Even when we play like shite to the point where if not for restrain, I'd have smashed the TV.

I know how the Scouse feel. Coz I support my local team just as much - I try to go to games when I can and stick behind the team when we arent playing well.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 16 2014, 03:45 PM)
Actually when I used the term 'us', I dont literally mean you, me and dillon over there.

But the Liverpool supporters, especially those that patron the KOP end week in week out (and midweek).

I mean so far, I have not willingly stop watching a Liverpool game at any point just because we were behind. Even when we play like shite to the point where if not for restrain, I'd have smashed the TV.

I know how the Scouse feel. Coz I support my local team just as much - I try to go to games when I can and stick behind the team when we arent playing well.
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Same bro. I can't bear to turn the telly off even if we're getting hammered. I know the team doesn't know I'm watching but I feel like I'll be abandoning them if I did. Each time I miss a game, I'm filled with a feeling of guilt.

To the fans that went to the Attaturk, they have my full respect. Some fellas are wealthy and could afford the trip but some are just blue collared workers who dug deep into their savings to make the arduous journey. I vaguely remember a story of one cab driver in particular who used up almost his entire savings just to watch the team play one game.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 16 2014, 03:58 PM)
Same bro. I can't bear to turn the telly off even if we're getting hammered. I know the team doesn't know I'm watching but I feel like I'll be abandoning them if I did. Each time I miss a game, I'm filled with a feeling of guilt.

To the fans that went to the Attaturk, they have my full respect. Some fellas are wealthy and could afford the trip but some are just blue collared workers who dug deep into their savings to make the arduous journey. I vaguely remember a story of one cab driver in particular who used up almost his entire savings just to watch the team play one game.
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Its these kind of things that remind us that football is more than big players and big money. It's also about the passion of the not-so-wealthy and all the people that make the game what it is today.

For the lads at the Attaturk who stayed and sang at half-time whilst 3-0 down against a formidable AC Milan side, it truly was and forever will be one of the most amazing things in Football History.
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i actually just re watched the match. fans during half time was magnificent. out of this world. they truly deserve to see the team winning the trophy as they make history that night.

even the entire Liverpool squad knows it. the support that the fans show brought them back into the game. after the penalties, every Liverpool player rushed to celebrate with the fans across the stadium. really shows how much they appreciated the support that they've given them throughout the match. stevie cant even stop talking about the fans during the post game interview!
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 16 2014, 04:39 PM)
i actually just re watched the match. fans during half time was magnificent. out of this world. they truly deserve to see the team winning the trophy as they make history that night.

even the entire Liverpool squad knows it. the support that the fans show brought them back into the game. after the penalties, every Liverpool player rushed to celebrate with the fans across the stadium. really shows how much they appreciated the support that they've given them throughout the match. stevie cant even stop talking about the fans during the post game interview!
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Hi bro,

I've only managed to watch the highlights.. Can you provide me the link?

Would like to watch the entire full game and relish the "moment". I've been an LFC fan since 2007 only (still baby conpared to the sifus here notworthy.gif )

thanks.

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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 16 2014, 04:39 PM)
i actually just re watched the match. fans during half time was magnificent. out of this world. they truly deserve to see the team winning the trophy as they make history that night.

even the entire Liverpool squad knows it. the support that the fans show brought them back into the game. after the penalties, every Liverpool player rushed to celebrate with the fans across the stadium. really shows how much they appreciated the support that they've given them throughout the match. stevie cant even stop talking about the fans during the post game interview!
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Indeed. This is the reason I'm a Liverpool fan and although we're a fallen giant of sorts, my support will never waver knowing what a special bunch of fans we have. Also, I don't believe any other club gives as much acknowledgement to its fans.
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QUOTE(vickno @ Jan 16 2014, 04:52 PM)
Hi bro,

I've only managed to watch the highlights.. Can you provide me the link?

Would like to watch the entire full game and relish the "moment".  I've been an LFC fan since 2007 only (still baby conpared to the sifus here  notworthy.gif )

thanks.
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ah dang. i just deleted it from my personal server. luckily i found the original source where i downloaded the match. i'll pm u the links.
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ah dang. i just deleted it from my personal server. luckily i found the original source where i downloaded the match. i'll pm u the links.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 16 2014, 05:04 PM)
Indeed. This is the reason I'm a Liverpool fan and although we're a fallen giant of sorts, my support will never waver knowing what a special bunch of fans we have. Also, I don't believe any other club gives as much acknowledgement to its fans.
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ah dang. i just deleted it from my personal server. luckily i found the original source where i downloaded the match. i'll pm u the links.
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can i have the link too.. thanks
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 16 2014, 05:04 PM)
Indeed. This is the reason I'm a Liverpool fan and although we're a fallen giant of sorts, my support will never waver knowing what a special bunch of fans we have. Also, I don't believe any other club gives as much acknowledgement to its fans.
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My personal experience is that Liverpool fans always acknowledge each other around the world (well except maybe Thailand and its multitude of the old Carlsberg jerseys). Countless times I'm in coffee shops having dinner wearing my LFC jersey, I would exchange greetings with fellow Kopites as if like we're bonded somehow.

Never notice such behavior with other club fans.
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Jan 16 2014, 05:25 PM)
My personal experience is that Liverpool fans always acknowledge each other around the world (well except maybe Thailand and its multitude of the old Carlsberg jerseys). Countless times I'm in coffee shops having dinner wearing my LFC jersey, I would exchange greetings with fellow Kopites as if like we're bonded somehow.

Never notice such behavior with other club fans.
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kops are brotherss  rclxms.gif
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Brothers in Unison!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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John Henry is gonna be there in the stadium watching the match against Aston Villa this Sunday.
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The Astro SuperSport presenter has been appointed as the new international presenter for the official Liverpool Football Club TV

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Malaysian television presenter Reem Shahwa expressed her delight after she was appointed as Liverpool TV's new international presenter last week.

Reem, who also works for Astro SuperSport, is the first ever Malaysian correspondent to be given the opportunity to work with the media department of Liverpool FC, and she is ecstatic about the opportunity.

More here : Source

dunno posted here already or not. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jan 16 2014, 07:47 PM)
The Astro SuperSport presenter has been appointed as the new international presenter for the official Liverpool Football Club TV

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Malaysian television presenter Reem Shahwa expressed her delight after she was appointed as Liverpool TV's new international presenter last week.

Reem, who also works for Astro SuperSport, is the first ever Malaysian correspondent to be given the opportunity to work with the media department of Liverpool FC, and she is ecstatic about the opportunity.

More here : Source

dunno posted here already or not.  laugh.gif
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Great job LFC for spoting our local talent. blush.gif
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Jan 16 2014, 05:25 PM)
My personal experience is that Liverpool fans always acknowledge each other around the world (well except maybe Thailand and its multitude of the old Carlsberg jerseys). Countless times I'm in coffee shops having dinner wearing my LFC jersey, I would exchange greetings with fellow Kopites as if like we're bonded somehow.

Never notice such behavior with other club fans.
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You're exactly right. Same thing has happened to me on countless occasions. Was wearing my personalised Shankly t-shirt and some bloke went, "nice shirt" as I was walking about BSC. At the Curve I was wearing my jersey with "Carragher" in the back and some block went," you hardly see his name on jerseys" and we had a 10 min conversation after. Countless other times I've exchanged knowing nods with fellow kopites. It's a special club I tell ya
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like Men United?  unsure.gif

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Sources claim, Henry wanted to sit down talk with BR about transfers thing and budget...

My sixth sense tells me..maybe it's about the deal for BR.... BR deal end next year...Common, he deserves one new deal, no?
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 15 2014, 02:57 PM)
The intent of deploying Gerrard closer to the CBs is understandable but whether he cna play there effectively over the long run is another question. I think he can just about play the role but he's got a long way to go before reaching the Pirlo or Xavi or Xabi level. Mind you the likes of Xabi and Pirlo took years to hone their craft, Gerrard hasn't got the time on his side. To illustrate the challenge, take a look at the following pic.

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Let's not forget, Lucas took few years to adapt from AM to DM... So, I m not putting high hope that Gerrard can play there effectively....
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Liverpool are set to make a move for Southampton star Jay Rodriguez, according to the Daily Star.
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Liverpool are set to make a move for Southampton star Jay Rodriguez, according to the Daily Star.
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ah dang. i just deleted it from my personal server. luckily i found the original source where i downloaded the match. i'll pm u the links.
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So hendo is going to be the donut mascot ?
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Lucas Crucial to Liverpool's Title Aspirations

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ben-mcalee..._b_4602123.html
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 17 2014, 12:30 AM)
Lucas Crucial to Liverpool's Title Aspirations

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ben-mcalee..._b_4602123.html
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his statistic normally showed that he's one of the best DM in league but whenever i see him play, i'm hardly impressed.. maybe it just the matter of he's underrated or i dont like him hmm.gif
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The Astro SuperSport presenter has been appointed as the new international presenter for the official Liverpool Football Club TV

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Malaysian television presenter Reem Shahwa expressed her delight after she was appointed as Liverpool TV's new international presenter last week.

Reem, who also works for Astro SuperSport, is the first ever Malaysian correspondent to be given the opportunity to work with the media department of Liverpool FC, and she is ecstatic about the opportunity.

More here : Source

dunno posted here already or not.  laugh.gif
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THIS IS DEFINITELY A MARQUEE SIGNING! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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So hendo is going to be the donut mascot ?
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But why Coutinho in there?
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THIS IS DEFINITELY A MARQUEE SIGNING!  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif
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You should visit her blog if you haven't
http://thekopsalad.com/

Then you will appreciate this marquee signing even more
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so this new signing, can play what position? brows.gif
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will sakho be playing tonight? thinking of buying him for my fantasy team...
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so this new signing, can play what position?  brows.gif
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errr....missionary, 69, cowgirl ride, doggy, etc LMFAO tongue.gif
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errr....missionary, 69, cowgirl ride, doggy, etc LMFAO tongue.gif
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...kin-Donuts.html

Have any if u heard. Sponsorship deal with dunking donuts group. This includes Baskin Robbins as well! Buy donut or.ice cream and win free trip.to anfield is a promo possibility wink.gif

You'll Never Dunk Alone!!!
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will sakho be playing tonight? thinking of buying him for my fantasy team...
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Liverpool vs Aston Villa, FA Youth Cup Fourth Round 2013-14 highlights

Guys..Found this..Faster Watch B4 Taken Down!



Our very own "Wales Wonderkid @ Harry Wilson". Should make 1st team appearance in 2014. Confirmed!

Cheers.

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Our very own "Wales Wonderkid @ Harry Wilson". Should make 1st team appearance in 2014. Confirmed!

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Great composure and finish there. And looks like a lefty too. Hopefully he develops well.
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jan 16 2014, 05:07 PM)
ah dang. i just deleted it from my personal server. luckily i found the original source where i downloaded the match. i'll pm u the links.
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PM me the link too. Need to vault it into my trophy cabinet.

QUOTE(terryfu @ Jan 17 2014, 04:07 PM)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...kin-Donuts.html

Have any if u heard. Sponsorship deal with dunking donuts group. This includes Baskin Robbins as well! Buy donut or.ice cream and win free trip.to anfield is a promo possibility wink.gif

You'll Never Dunk Alone!!!
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YNDA

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LOL.

PSG want to bid Suarez for 42m

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LOL.

PSG want to bid Suarez for 42m
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They're offering about 3-4 players as well including Lavezzi & Pastore. Not worth it in my opinion.
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They're offering about 3-4 players as well including Lavezzi & Pastore. Not worth it in my opinion.
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if 42m+thiago silva that more than enough
silva-sakho psg pride in defence

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found this kavadi. impressive!! happy thaipusam! icon_rolleyes.gif

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found this kavadi. impressive!! happy thaipusam!  icon_rolleyes.gif

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Tomorrow starting line up will be interesting..no way BR will drop gerrard. For now, he liability to the team because he give away ball in our final third so often from last match.
The one to be drop :
Countinho - although his shooting is poor, but the link up play and passing open up space for suarez and co
Henderson - his form and passing when play in the middle really suprise us. Been forced to play at the right limit his ability.
Lucas - he important to destroy opponent move and intercept some opponent passing. BR is mad if drop him to accomodate gerrard at dm position. Is really kill us if opponent has very pacey player
Sterling - he really shine for us this season. He need to improve his shooting and finishing and he will be a complete winger

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The most susceptible player in the team is lucas.
Hasn't been to his best and I think should be back up for gerrard.

SAS to win the game but benteke against skrtel toure is a major cause for concern.

Lets not forget villa won 3-1 at anfield last season.

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Why is the Kop picture not attachment to the tered? If liverpool lost tonite due to that who will be accountable? Mod or TS?
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Who will make way for Sturridge? U think Sterling will be benched guys?
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Why is the Kop picture not attachment to the tered? If liverpool lost tonite due to that who will be accountable? Mod or TS?
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Brendan Rodgers or the players themselves.

I have already PM the admins regarding this issue, it might a bug inside Invision Power Board coding.
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Jan 18 2014, 07:04 PM)
Brendan Rodgers or the players themselves.

I have already PM the admins regarding this issue, it might a bug inside Invision Power Board coding.
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I smell the sabo is strong here in liverpool coz Man Utd just open new tered but they got the tered pic there but us. hmm.gif

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jan 18 2014, 07:41 PM)
I smell the sabo is strong here in liverpool coz Manure just open new tered but they got the tered pic there but us. hmm.gif
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If you didn't notice, even the Malaysia Football Team thread is having the same problem. With that in mind, i hope you won't say we're anti Malaysians now.

While we're at it, please refrain from name calling other football clubs.

Edit it, or i'll issue a warning.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jan 18 2014, 07:01 PM)
Who will make way for Sturridge? U think Sterling will be benched guys?
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So Lucas is the fall guy
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QUOTE(TheWhacker @ Jan 18 2014, 07:04 PM)
Brendan Rodgers or the players themselves.

I have already PM the admins regarding this issue, it might a bug inside Invision Power Board coding.
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Eh? A Liverpool fan, who is Mod or Staff of LYN?

Apart from Bro Cherroy, now we got 2 cybercops who are from The Kops thumbup.gif

Just issue the warning to Yeelong anyway. Yeelong, it is the 10% brotherhood trademark. To join us, take the mark tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 18 2014, 08:10 PM)
Eh? A Liverpool fan, who is Mod or Staff of LYN?

Apart from Bro Cherroy, now we got 2 cybercops who are from The Kops  thumbup.gif

Just issue the warning to Yeelong anyway. Yeelong, it is the 10% brotherhood trademark. To join us, take the mark tongue.gif
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Do not want, i still wanna keep ma warning virgin as long as i could.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jan 18 2014, 08:12 PM)
Do not want, i still wanna keep ma warning virgin as long as i could.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 18 2014, 08:13 PM)
Oh Come on! We are Gladiators  flex.gif That's our brotherhood mark smile.gif
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Ok, since you are insist, i would rather break it for bigger achievement on liverpool. Like if they can finished top 4....
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jan 18 2014, 08:15 PM)
Ok, since you are insist, i would rather break it for bigger achievement on liverpool. Like if they can finished top 4....
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That's okay. Duke called upon everyone here to do a tattoo on our body if Liverpool win the EPL. Now that is quite a request as I dislike Tattoo. biggrin.gif
But what the hell, if we win, which is quite a miracle in itself, why not. flex.gif
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Just issue the warning to Yeelong anyway. Yeelong, it is the 10% brotherhood trademark. To join us, take the mark tongue.gif
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I'll let him go for now.

Next time he'll get a warning for name calling.

Keep it clean, name calling other football clubs brings some trouble than the fun of it.
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Lol really. I got that warning a year ago for the same reason but it's.gone now.
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QUOTE(terryfu @ Jan 18 2014, 08:48 PM)
Lol really. I got that warning a year ago for the same reason but it's.gone now.
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QUOTE(K.H.A.I @ Jan 18 2014, 08:51 PM)
pls no aly n johno
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Not an option la, Khai. BR will surely start them
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 18 2014, 08:55 PM)
Alamak. Agger is still injured. I forgot  doh.gif

Not an option la, Khai. BR will surely start them
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tiago in lb n kolo kolo kolo toure in rb can? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(K.H.A.I @ Jan 18 2014, 09:01 PM)
tiago in lb n kolo kolo kolo toure in rb can? hmm.gif
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We're up against Gabby Agbonlahor and possibly Marc Albrighton on left and right. Not sure those 2 can handle them.
Ilori dont stand a chance at the moment.

Or maybe 3-5-2 but that means Raheem and Hendo will be wing back and Lucas, G and Couts in the middle.

Then we can have Sakho-Skrtel-Kolo
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4-0

heavy odds for Liverpool to win.. giving 2 goals handicapped..
sudah mcm real Madrid and barca
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Haha...I like your analogy.
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Who will make way for Sturridge? U think Sterling will be benched guys?
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Who will make way for Sturridge? U think Sterling will be benched guys?
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 18 2014, 11:02 PM)
If u judge by the previous game performance, it ought to be Hendo or Gerrard but then they seems undroppable...
TheWhacker is an old timer... Haven't see him posting for ages... He is unbiased and cool... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 18 2014, 09:39 PM)
We're up against Gabby Agbonlahor and possibly Marc Albrighton on left and right. Not sure those 2 can handle them.
Ilori dont stand a chance at the moment.

Or maybe 3-5-2 but that means Raheem and Hendo will be wing back and Lucas, G and Couts in the middle.

Then we can have Sakho-Skrtel-Kolo
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hoping for sakho to start with skrtel while toure on the bench. can back up for glen johnson. we got kelly as well. but didn't see much action of him after coming back from injury.

sas to start. grab a two goals lead then subs out giving the younger lada the opportunity to perform.
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Why Lucas is dropped? Whyyyy?
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Why Lucas is dropped? Whyyyy?
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Liverpool FC
Mignolet, Johnson, Cissokho, Skrtel, Toure, Gerrard, Henderson, Sterling, Coutinho, Sturridge, Suarez

subs: Jones, Kelly, Lucas, Moses, Allen, Aspas, Alberto
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attacking minded. sakho still not back yet?
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 12:35 AM)
Liverpool FC
Mignolet, Johnson, Cissokho, Skrtel, Toure, Gerrard, Henderson, Sterling, Coutinho, Sturridge, Suarez

subs: Jones, Kelly, Lucas, Moses, Allen, Aspas, Alberto
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------------------- Mignolet --------------------------

----------Skrtel---------------Toure-----------------

-------------------Gerrard----------------------------

------------Hendo---Alberto--Coutinho--------------

--------Aspas--Suarez--Sturridge--Sterling--------


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are we in for another heart attack inducing game??
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QUOTE(fariq_azad @ Jan 19 2014, 01:21 AM)
are we in for another heart attack inducing game??
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Skrtel pls pls don't strip opponent ... Pretty pretty pls.....
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BR has told Couts to strike it quick instead of aiming for perfection. tongue.gif

So we may see bang bang bang. biggrin.gif
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We shoud've been 0-1 down..wow..heart attack a bit.
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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Jan 19 2014, 01:32 AM)
We shoud've been 0-1 down..wow..heart attack a bit.
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Lucas not playing seem midfield no control...
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gerrard can't play the dm role, we need lucas to break villa attack. right now the midfield are messed up
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QUOTE(alan_kong84 @ Jan 19 2014, 01:47 AM)
Lucas not playing seem midfield no control...
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Villa control the game.they have few clear chance now. I already said before, its crazy to drop lucas for his defensive side of the team just to accomodate old gerrard. Gerrard been poor. He not the same old gerrard. When the last time we saw hollywod pass and long shooting goal?

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well deserved...

yes SAS is back

but then again...

so is gerrard sad.gif
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Gerrard is giving the ball needlessly
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correct me if im wrong. is this the first time we started with a flat 4-4-2 ? i cant seemed to recall the last time we played or at least started with 4-4-2. the games where we had SAS, it was usually 3 at the back with 2 wing backs.

4-4-2 doesnt seem to be working for now as the midfield duo is being over runned by villa. mind you, villa has a better record on the road than at home this season, they have the best away record for teams in the bottom half when playing away.

ryan bertrand is playing well left back, bitter mou doesnt want to loan him to us, pretty sure he will get the nod over cissokho if hes with us. i blame cissokho n gerrard for ball watching in the goal.
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i cant believe how our def could let a striker walk freely in our penalty box..
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thank steven gerrard. U can jog around the field and give ball away. Thank BR also

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blame lucas
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I saw the team lineup with no Lucas can already feel the impeding doom.
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Mignolet as usual... Not good in the air
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 19 2014, 02:08 AM)
thank steven gerrard. U can jog around the field and give ball away. Thank BR also
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Now see if br has got the gut to replace gerrard with Lucas in second half...
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Wow....totally WOW from Cisokkho, if that's a first timing shot, I'd be "oh well, no luck". But he freaking stop the ball and use 1 sec to aim, and that's the shoot he made? shocking.gif shocking.gif
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i think BR is telling them to lose the match since the owner will be watching and hope that john w henry would splash out a big transfer budget
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 17 2014, 10:44 PM)
Tomorrow starting line up will be interesting..no way BR will drop gerrard. For now, he liability to the team because he give away ball in our final third so often from last match.
The one to be drop :
Countinho - although his shooting is poor, but the link up play and passing open up space for suarez and co
Henderson - his form and passing when play in the middle really suprise us. Been forced to play at the right limit his ability.
Lucas - he important to destroy opponent move and intercept some opponent passing. BR is mad if drop him to accomodate gerrard at dm position. Is really kill us if opponent has very pacey player
Sterling - he really shine for us this season. He need to improve his shooting and finishing and he will be a complete winger
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Reqoute My post earlier..Can read what happen if br drop lucas today just to accomodate gerrard. mad.gif

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 02:13 AM)
painful. really painful to watch.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 19 2014, 02:16 AM)
i think BR is telling them to lose the match since the owner will be watching and hope that john w henry would splash out a big transfer budget
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N sacking BR lel
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Its has been like this rite? One miracle win one time n silly form the next. Magic
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No. It's only because we have one big hole in the middle with the number 8 on the back
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jan 19 2014, 02:17 AM)
No. It's only because we have one big hole in the middle with the number 8 on the back
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Yes...we know dat wud be suicide...why do it?
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Hendo unpredictable flick and pass is getting better huh?
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Jan 19 2014, 02:16 AM)
Its has been like this rite? One miracle win one time n silly form the next. Magic
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At least some hope. Thanks Suarez to Henderson to sturridge
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Jan 19 2014, 02:18 AM)
Yes...we know dat wud be suicide...why do it?
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I was like "what the hell this dude is doing?" he knows we are losing right? mad.gif
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We're lucky trailing by one goal... Unless br drop gerrard for Lucas to keep agbolanghor in checked... There's no way we could overturn the deficit... That Gabriel is too pacey for toure or even skrtel to handle...
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 19 2014, 02:20 AM)
Farkkkkkkk offffff Johnson... rubbish player
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Seriously Johnson looks like a normal footballer that could be found in any stadium in the world.
His routine is so easy and he earns so much pay from it.

"Oh hey, teammate pass a ball to me, I'll hold for a while, and pretending that I have vision by looking around, nah I am just joking, turn back and back pass."

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Thank you Sturridge. We can still win this but our midfield struggled just then. Gerrard couldn't get into the game because he hasn't got the workhorse doing the heavy lifting i.e. Lucas. We can't afford to lose this game so i hope BR will sort it out at half time.
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If BR doesn't drop Gerrard or Coutinho for Lucas, then we're truly farked.

And why the fark Kelly is still on the bench?
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Some people believe we dont need lucas at home...including BR, how wrong. I hope people will realise how important DM is to d team. Stop with experimenting and stick with d winning formation.
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First goal conceded: Kolo against pacey Agbon = Suicidal

They played rough and they have good target man. We didn't match them until in 3oth min. I observed Hendo started to rough up a bit and match their physicality.

Gerrard struggle in his new role.

We have shitty backup in Ally. Henry please take note and take out the cheque book.

Sterling also not having his normal influence. So that's both flank not contributing. No wonder Strurridge have to drop deep...

Coutinho, thank you for not trying to shoot in build up of our goal.
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QUOTE(farisq @ Jan 19 2014, 02:27 AM)
First goal conceded: Kolo against pacey Agbon = Suicidal

They played rough and they have good target man. We didn't match them until in 3oth min. I observed Hendo started to rough up a bit and match their physicality.

Gerrard struggle in his new role.

We have shitty backup in Ally. Henry please take note and take out the cheque book.

Sterling also not having his normal influence. So that's both flank not contributing. No wonder Strurridge have to drop deep...

Coutinho, thank you for not trying to shoot in build up of our goal.
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Our wing backs are driving me crazy.. when ure not dominating while asking the wings to lose ball u gonna get it.. we are lucky not to concede more..

Gerrard needs someone to pamper him at the middle.. means u need a proper dm.. sorry but Gerrard middle just cant make it.. U all know Gerrard he doesn't have good touches like Pirlo so stop comparing him.. U need Gerrard's energy infront not slowing him down

Cissokho is a joke.. if you just looking at him he doesnt do shit apart from throwing ball in, running back and fort. He doesnt cut in to midfied like Johnson or Enrique


Argh frustrating
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 19 2014, 02:24 AM)
Thank you Sturridge. We can still win this but our midfield struggled just then. Gerrard couldn't get into the game because he hasn't got the workhorse doing the heavy lifting i.e. Lucas. We can't afford to lose this game so i hope BR will sort it out at half time.
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but....you still dreaming if kept thinking he will do instanbul now.. he not the same old gerrard. He just jogging and wait ball closer to him then make a move. His age limit him. Remember lampard issue before?
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I dont understand how Lucas will change things? Is he a fast player? Nil.

Is he good in the Air? Nil.

We are losing 2nd ball and on air and pace on the counter attack.

BR will sort it out. I trust him. Let's keep the faith. Aston Villa cant hustle us for the whole 90 mins unless they took Steroids.
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Also surprised to see BR sticking with this back four especially the center pairings considering our suicidal defense at dealing with crosses and targetman against Stoke. No surprise it was Kolo and Skrtel who conceded 3 against Hull 2 against Stoke now 2 against Villa.
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The midfield is basically non existent.... Crap.... And sg for dm is suicide
His touch is horrendous
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 02:30 AM)
I dont understand how Lucas will change things? Is he a fast player? Nil.

Is he good in the Air? Nil.

We are losing 2nd ball and on air and pace on the counter attack.

BR will sort it out. I trust him. Let's keep the faith. Aston Villa cant hustle us for the whole 90 mins unless they took Steroids.
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And I don't understand how Gerrard sticking is gonna change things? Is he a fast player? Nil.

Good in the air? Nil.




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Lucas in
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Better Gerrard replace Ally, and LUcas in. At least he can cross
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Ok here we go. Can we come back? Let's see.
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I think u dont need 2 wingers when u have 2 considered pacey strikers.. u let wingers to take risk take on defender but u need to dominate midfield to take the ball back and give the winger another chance

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 02:30 AM)
I dont understand how Lucas will change things? Is he a fast player? Nil.

Is he good in the Air? Nil.

We are losing 2nd ball and on air and pace on the counter attack.

BR will sort it out. I trust him. Let's keep the faith. Aston Villa cant hustle us for the whole 90 mins unless they took Steroids.
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He good in intercept opponent move in the middle before let us been expose. He sit just in front of back four to give better protection. THE PROBLEM is gerrard doenst provide it. For second ball he just delay, and delay and last moment allow opponent cross to score...didnt you see that? icon_rolleyes.gif
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lucas on, coutinho off
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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Jan 19 2014, 02:31 AM)
That fan who took out his camera really disgraceful.
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Less one problem... Gabriel out
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Penalty... Pls score...
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That gerrard strentgh..his holywood passing. That like him

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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 19 2014, 02:34 AM)
He good in intercept opponent move in the middle before let us been expose. He sit just in front of back four to give better protection. THE PROBLEM is gerrard doenst provide it. For second ball he just delay, and delay and last moment allow opponent cross to score...didnt you see that? icon_rolleyes.gif
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for godness sake stop playing gerrard so deep, look at that!!
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Now we control the game.. Now can see how important dm is icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 02:42 AM)
Calm down bro. He just scored the penalty tongue.gif
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Ada wang ada amoi, ada lucas ada midfield...
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I dont know what johnson do lately..since everton game he losing his foot..cissokho is better than him right now laugh.gif
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QUOTE(alan_kong84 @ Jan 19 2014, 02:49 AM)
Ada wang ada amoi, ada lucas ada midfield...
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Aw Lucas
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i dont think we can afford a draw..we need a win
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oh my..we might be stuck with gerrard in DM for the next few matches
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jan 19 2014, 02:55 AM)
oh my..we might be stuck with gerrard in DM for the next few matches
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That scary. Pity england if gerrard play dm for them laugh.gif

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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 19 2014, 02:58 AM)
That scary. Pity england if gerrard play dm for them  laugh.gif
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Why mignolet insist to keep his goal kick short? Huh
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We need to win again villa..cannot afford to lose anymore again lower team..
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thats scary...
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Looks like a draw game ... sad.gif
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QUOTE(redrum77 @ Jan 19 2014, 03:06 AM)
Looks like a draw game ... sad.gif
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Just dont be clumsy pls
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the first half is just so wasted
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i hope after this game BR would see his mistake in putting gerrard in DM
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1st half tactic cost the game.
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Cissokho really useless... Worst LB in the league...
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We made mistake at first half. Hope bR learn this hard lesson. Before he already learn not to use 3 at the back again big team (remember chelsea game)?today he learn that gerrard cant be a dm
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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jan 19 2014, 03:21 AM)
Cissokho really useless... Worst LB in the league...
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Johnson more worst than cissokho lately. Non forward run today...
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Why the fook we kept attacking from the left wing? Seriously. And BR's golden boy is just undroppable is he?
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Fking pissed at Cissokho cant believe we actually loaned him god help us..
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Seriously, so much focus on the Suarez Penalty. Christ sake, replay after replay and the goalkeeper did touch him. Period. It was soft and yes he tumble down easily, so?

Anyway, 2 silly points lost today down to wrong strategy.

When the thread has something wrong, BR's strategy also will go wrong tongue.gif. Put back the Liverpool Logo for us! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jan 19 2014, 03:25 AM)
Why the fook we kept attacking from the left wing? Seriously. And BR's golden boy is just undroppable is he?
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gerrard is just a burden whenever he plays as dm. No way he got the time to adjust into that role, even more so we can't afford anymore slip ups. Teams are cathing up.
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 19 2014, 03:24 AM)
Johnson more worst than cissokho lately. Non forward run today...
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Cissokho cant outpace opponent,cant cross,weird dribbling motion.

and yeah i agree Johnson loses his touch. So we screwed up in both fullback position.

Isn't Flanagan or Kelly available now?

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By our tonight standard, bersyukurlah can draw
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maybe lucas wasn't fit as well? Hope that one is not a major sideline again sweat.gif
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villa deserve a point. we play like shiat today.

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Guess what boys. Everton is next shocking.gif

No Lucas, No Agger, No Flanno, No Sakho.


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So tmrw sapork menyu or chelsea??
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 03:30 AM)
Guess what boys. Everton is next shocking.gif

No Lucas, No Agger, No Flanno, No Sakho.
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Lukaku + fast winger...here we go again sweat.gif
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I hope Couts play ahead of Sterling.. ya he does all the running and all but the end result not good enough.. I see Villa not very tight midfield side we would have pounce them in the middle

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And another bad news. I am coming back on the 28th to celebrate CNY. So if we lose, dont blame me biggrin.gif. I have to come back. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 03:30 AM)
Guess what boys. Everton is next shocking.gif

No Lucas, No Agger, No Flanno, No Sakho.
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Put all players at post
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We dont have existence lb that fit except cissokho.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 03:30 AM)
Guess what boys. Everton is next shocking.gif

No Lucas, No Agger, No Flanno, No Sakho.
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no problem. our players gonna be on steroid when it against everton biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 03:30 AM)
Guess what boys. Everton is next shocking.gif

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Haih...same like tnite first half lorr
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I hope Henry n BR realised that we need reinforcement s, urgently..
AV players look so sharp and fit compared to our players.. might be due to our squad which is so thin..plus the injuries..

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Cissokho really cannot dribble. How he been a footballer? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 03:30 AM)
Guess what boys. Everton is next shocking.gif

No Lucas, No Agger, No Flanno, No Sakho.
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Another 2 points drop most probably if gerrard is playing same position as today. Will send them kangkung to boost their energy.
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jan 19 2014, 03:33 AM)
Cissokho really cannot dribble. How he been a footballer? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(coolmast3r @ Jan 19 2014, 03:33 AM)
I hope Henry n BR realised that we need reinforcement s, urgently..
AV players look so sharp and fit compared to our players.. might be due to our squad which is so thin..plus the injuries..
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jan 19 2014, 03:31 AM)
No what I meant was that we kept going forward from the left wing when Cissokho is an utter garbage. Our midfield was totally invisible throughout the game. If Henry doesn't spend, then we're screwed. Squad is riddled with injuries and deadwoods
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As usual, all the deals are locked in negotiations due to agent's fees.

But at the moment, he's focusing on attacking players more than defensive ones. So I dont know man. Can Carra come back? tongue.gif

We experimented Johnson on the left and Kelly on the right. Maybe Johnson will play better there linking up with Suarez?
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QUOTE(redrum77 @ Jan 19 2014, 03:34 AM)
Another 2 points drop most probably if gerrard is playing same position as today. Will send them kangkung to boost their energy.
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Mignolet, Toure, CISsoko, Gerrard(1st half), Coutinho all played badly today.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 19 2014, 03:38 AM)
Mignolet, Toure, CISsoko, Gerrard(1st half), Coutinho all played badly today.
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We got bullied on air bro. So many high balls we lost. We lost the 2nd ball as well. They did well in using that Bolton strategy on us.

Key point is, Sakho's missing. He would have neutralise them abit on air. But we need a giant DM with the size of Toure's brother YaYaYaYa.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 03:36 AM)
As usual, all the deals are locked in negotiations due to agent's fees.

But at the moment, he's focusing on attacking players more than defensive ones. So I dont know man. Can Carra come back? tongue.gif

We experimented Johnson on the left and Kelly on the right. Maybe Johnson will play better there linking up with Suarez?
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I agree with more attacking players. Attack is the best defence. Just look at City. However if our RB and LB are total clowns, then the results will still be the same.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Jan 19 2014, 03:41 AM)
We got bullied on air bro. So many high balls we lost. We lost the 2nd ball as well. They did well in using that Bolton strategy on us.

Key point is, Sakho's missing. He would have neutralise them abit on air. But we need a giant DM with the size of Toure's brother YaYaYaYa.
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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Jan 19 2014, 03:27 AM)
Cissokho cant outpace opponent,cant cross,weird dribbling motion.

and yeah i agree Johnson loses his touch.  So we screwed up in both fullback position.

Isn't Flanagan or Kelly available now?
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Rubbish performance. Very frustrating. Outplayed at home in from of Linda!

Cissokho is so rubbish.. no idea what hes doing. Passing was shit. Everyones passingwas shit. Sterling is pacey... but stupid as a rock. He cant decide whether to pass or shoot or fluff a chance.

The only person at the back id trust is Skrtel. Toure looked out of sorts. Johnson need to go out - the exit, permanently.

I felt Only Hendo did okay. Others were shitty. No supply for the boys up front.

Could have easily lost.

Consistency - our biggest enemy
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And Mignolet cant punch for shit.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 19 2014, 03:47 AM)
Rubbish performance. Very frustrating. Outplayed at home in from of Linda!

Cissokho is so rubbish.. no idea what hes doing. Passing was shit. Everyones passingwas shit. Sterling is pacey... but stupid as a rock. He cant decide whether to pass or shoot or fluff a chance.

The only person at the back id trust is Skrtel. Toure looked out of sorts. Johnson need to go out - the exit, permanently.

I felt Only Hendo did okay. Others were shitty. No supply for the boys up front.

Could have easily lost.

Consistency - our biggest enemy
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Even Bjornebye and Traore plays better than Fking Cissokho.... sorry for repeating I just cant help it.. feel like slapping him when he complains no one to pass to and complain to ref saying he was being faulted..

Funny fellow

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Draw after trailing by 2 goals. One point gained.
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Ops I missed 1 out even Konchesky plays better hahhaa god
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jan 19 2014, 03:57 AM)
Even Bjornebye and Traore plays better than Fking Cissokho.... sorry for repeating I just cant help it.. feel like slapping him when he complains no one to pass to and complain to ref saying he was being faulted..

Funny fellow
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lookin how super good our fullbacks are
riise,arbeloa n aurelio are messiah compared to them
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Really bad game. I predicted that Coutinho would make way for sturridge but BR chose Lucas instead. So much huge gap in the midfield in the 1st 45 mins. And both full backs get terrorized like boys vs men. We are lucky Gabby had to pull out injured, and the penalty was given.

Can't way we didn't deserve the win, and was like shouting goal when Suarez miss the free kick by inches from the post for the winner.

Was looking forward to Everton game but now dreading it. Hope results tomorrow go our way.
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We seemed not to do particularly well againsts physical teams, well generally any teams will struggle against (overtly) physical team/player.

As must as it's seen as 2 point lost esp it's a home game, for the longest time I think we could crawl back from 0-2. (Even if luck may have seen as to play a part in getting the penalty)

BR will access this game. Like I said before we may have more home games on the 2 half of the remaining season, but it's no guarantee of maximum points. We'll shrug off this hiccup & continue our sights on getting 4th placed and above.

Johnson may have seen to have lost some of his defense ability but "defending" was never his strongest point (ie traditional type defender ala carrrager, and it's been said those type of defenders are getting rare & it's mainly due to the nature of expectations of the modern footballer. He (Johnson) still have some more from his game to contribute. We will see
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From the bottom of my broken heart, this is the thing I want BR to know,
I expect to win, we end up drawing, from the first goal to the very last try

From the bottom of my broken heart, there are some times we are lucky enough,
I expect to win, we end up drawing, from the first touch, we were not good enough....

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It is not the first time, BR get the tactic and personnel wrong.
I hope the manager master the tactical issue fast.

It is a point gain, instead loss of 2 points, if judge from the match performance perspective.

As I had said many time, defence fragility issue needs to be sorted out, if not even 4th place is hard to achieve without a good defence.
Defence fragility is one of reason, why Liv is not having good result (in fact, most loss) against top team.
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Drop Cissokho.. drop johnson.
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QUOTE(Mikeshashimi @ Jan 19 2014, 10:54 AM)
Drop Cissokho.. drop johnson.
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I think the very best option now, kelly at rb, johnson push back to left
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We did well to get back into the game and despite the disappointing draw, coming back from 2 goal deficit will go a long way to improve our mentality. In any case, we tend to struggle whenever we play with a 2 man midfield - especially when Gerrard is one of the midfielders - think back to the draws against 10 man Newcastle, Swansea and the loss to Southampton at Anfield. The 2 man midfield just doesn't give us the same kind of control and possession that we normally enjoy with a 3 man midfield.

Yesterday we played a lot better when Gerrard was relieve of his defensive duty. The effect was almost immediate and we stopped conceding. Gerrard doesn't have to be outright dropped but that doesn't mean we should force the issue and complicate things. Right now he looks like a square peg in a round hole. It's not just an issue of whether he can settle into the new role but also the danger of other teams looking at him as a potential weakness to exploit. So not only has he got to play the role to perfection but he's got to able to cope with whatever the oppositions throw at him. And this is a real pickle, deep lying midfielders usually take years to hone their craft - that's why they are rare and why we still use the same players i.e. Xavi, Xabi, Pirlo etc as the benchmark.

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 19 2014, 11:20 AM)
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Didnt catch the match in full as I was out, but still manage to catch glimpses of the match in the 1st half and all 3 goals - we didnt start playing until the end of the half....essentially this match is another new experience for the boys..it is 4-2-4 in a way...not that i blame BR for being gungho as owners flew in from the states and it is a match play at own turf's in anfield afterall..but the case in point, there is no triangle for BR to flip..that became our problem - our midfield stronghold was loose and there is no pressing both upfield and own-half....both fullbacks dint add credence to attack and defensive duties add to the frailties..having said this, it is the 1st match Sturij started, which means the whole team need readjustments..and mignolet had a poor game, and i mean games, not only yesterday but the past few games now...

The only few positives we had 1) our home record is intact 2) mentality of the lads is strong, the will to get back into the game is good 3) hendo came to grip with the return of SG...plus AV is no pushover, altho they are not consistent, but they did turn up yesterday..against Arsenal, they arent too bad either, could be a sign of return to form for the Villans, which itself is good, probably they could nick a point or two from other top 4 aspirants...

There is no quick fix for Mignolet, at best he is a strong no2...for now..
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Remember the team is building guys. And BR is not off the shelves experienced manager compared to wut we used to haf in the past. Important thing is move on and learn fr mistake.

Cliche yes. BR had the right intention last nite but it didt work well. I mean how wud he know dat if he didnt try it rite?

We r 11 points better than last season. Dats 3 wins and 2 draws better.if we haf won Hull n Soton, we wudve been on top now. Dat little difference
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Yup. Judge by end of the season. Pointless to complain now. BR make mistakes just like anybody who plays Football Manager without cheat code. Think the main thing is focus on next game and keep catching up. Other teams will drop points going into midway of second half season.

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