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KYPMbangi
post Feb 20 2014, 02:01 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 20 2014, 01:54 AM)
Who is that fella?
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Kua Kia Soong is the fella that one says that our 2 ships was destroyed by pirates
That angmoh is Colin Archer, from International Peace Bureau, prolly to back him up on anti-war/defence thing
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post Feb 20 2014, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 20 2014, 02:00 AM)
i think reporter

macam pernah dengar
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I see.

QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 20 2014, 02:01 AM)
Kua Kia Soong is the fella that one says that our 2 ships was destroyed by pirates
That angmoh is Colin Archer, from International Peace Bureau, prolly to back him up on anti-war/defence thing
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Lolol.
He were lucky if it were me prepare for law suites.
big 1.
colin archer more like a penipu scammer.
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post Feb 20 2014, 08:51 AM

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February 19, 2014 9:17pm

Lockheed tech lets U.S. Apache helicopter pilots aim in color

By Andrea Shalal-Esa

HUNTSVILLE, Alabama (Reuters) - The U.S. Army has unveiled new technology that will for the first time allow AH-64 Apache helicopter pilots to see targeting and surveillance data in full, high-resolution color, instead of the fuzzy black and white images they get now.

An Army official said new sensors developed by Lockheed Martin Corp over the past four years could help avoid mistakes such as the 2007 attack by two U.S. Apache helicopters that killed 12 people in Baghdad, including two Reuters news staff, after they were mistaken for armed insurgents.

U.S. Central Command has said an investigation of the incident found that U.S. forces were not aware of the presence of the news staffers and believed a camera held by one of the men was a rocket-propelled grenade launcher.

"This additional situational awareness ... will give soldiers what they need to make the right decisions on the battlefield," Army Lieutenant Colonel Steven Van Riper, the Army's product manager for the Apache sensors, told reporters when asked if the new technology help avert such mistakes.

"That's our goal ... This will cut dramatically the amount of voice communications and other things that take precious time on the battlefield, time that could be used better to make decisions," he said during a demonstration at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama, where the Army tests new aircraft.

"Now they can focus on those tasks and not worry, 'Am I looking at the right thing?'"

Van Riper said the new sensors would help pilots better track suspicious cars identified by troops on the ground by their color, or even individuals tagged in specific clothes.

"We'll be able to see the red car versus the blue car, or the yellow building versus the green building, whereas before we were totally reliant on being able to communicate either verbally or through tactical text messages," he said.

Army officials showcased the new equipment during a flight at the sprawling facility in Huntsville, showing reporters a side-by-side comparison of the black-and-white video captured by the current sensors on Boeing Co Apache helicopters, and the new high-definition color equipment.

Van Riper said the Army was moving to implement the technology as quickly as possible, but said it could take seven years before all 680 Apache E-models are retrofitted with the new color sensors and displays. He said the equipment would be the most advanced on any rotorcraft used by the regular Army, although some special forces had similar equipment.

The technology changes, developed at a cost of $60 million over the past four years, grew out of an effort to remove obsolescent parts from the overall sensor package, which was first developed 30 years ago, Army officials said.

Apache pilots are enthusiastic about the changes.

Chief Warrant Office Paul Steele, an experimental test pilot who has been flying Apache helicopters since 1991, told reporters that the new equipment marked "a great leap" in a pilot's ability to operate on the battlefield.

Van Riper said the Army hoped to award Lockheed a contract to start building the sensor upgrade kits in fiscal year 2015, which begins October 1, after completing additional flight and environmental testing in coming months.

He declined to estimate what the new equipment would cost, saying the amount had yet to be negotiated with the company.

Matthew Hoffman, the Lockheed official in charge of the Apache sensor upgrade programs, said the new system was nearly three times more reliable and easier to maintain that the old one. The new sensors also allows pilots to see near-infrared imaging data together on one screen with the color imagery.


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post Feb 20 2014, 08:56 AM

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RI to focus on 7 weapon systems this year

Novan Iman Santosa, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | National | Wed, February 19 2014, 7:09 PM

Indonesia will focus on developing and producing seven weapon systems this year to modernize its arsenal and strengthen local defense industries to reduce the dependence on foreign suppliers.

The systems are submarines, jet fighters, medium tanks, missiles, radars, propellants and communications devices, said Defense Industry Policy Committee (KKIP) special staff for cooperation and institutional relations Silmy Karim on Wednesday.

Both the submarines and jet fighters are being developed as national programs with South Korea while the medium tank is being developed in cooperation with Turkish company FNSS Defense System.

While there is already missile cooperation with China, Silmy said the KKIP was still looking at partners for the local production of radar and communication devices.

“We will soon have a propellant factory that is important if we want to develop our own ammunition, missiles and rockets,” he said, without revealing which country the cooperation was being held with. (dhi)


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post Feb 20 2014, 10:07 AM

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Local weapons ramped up

Novan Iman Santosa, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | Headlines | Thu, February 20 2014, 8:25 AM

Seven indigenous weapons systems will be developed and produced this year to modernize the domestic arsenal, strengthen local defense industries and reduce dependence on foreign suppliers.

The systems are submarines, jet fighters, medium tanks, missiles, radars, propellants and communication devices, Silmy Karim, the Defense Industry Policy Committee (KKIP) special staff for cooperation and institutional relations, said Wednesday.

Speaking at a press conference at the ministry, Silmy said the systems would be developed with particular attention to the country’s archipelagic geographical condition.

“We will also develop indigenous amphibious armored vehicles because we have so many islands,” he said. “We also want to develop our own unmanned aerial vehicle [UAV].”

On Monday, the House of Representatives’ Commission I approved the disbursement of US$250 million to state-owned shipyard PT PAL to build the country’s first locally-made submarine with technical assistance from South Korea.

Indonesia signed a contract in 2011 with Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering (DSME) to build three submarines worth some $1.07 billion. Two will be built in Korea while the third will be built in PT PAL’s facilities in Surabaya, East Java.

The work on the third submarine will start in 2015, it is slated for completion in 2018.

“As submarines and jet fighters are long-term projects, they have been designated as national programs to safeguard continuity,” said Silmy.

Despite the order of three submarines from Korea, KKIP implementation team head, Adm. (ret) Sumardjono said that Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro had also set a policy to procure Kilo-class submarines from Russia in motion.

“This is a stop-gap measure as we need 12 submarines to safeguard our waters,” he said.”

“Five of nine strategic maritime choke points are located in our territory.”

Earlier in January, the South Korean government announced the continuation of the KFX/IFX jet fighter project. The prototype is expected in the next decade.

The medium-tank project is being developed in cooperation with Turkish company FNSS Defense System, which Silmy said would be a clean-slate design.

“Considering our geographical condition, we also need a lighter tank but with heavy firepower [to accompany the Leopard 2 main battle tank],” he said.

Indonesia signed an agreement with Turkey to develop the tank in May 2013.

State-owned weapons and land system maker PT Pindad will jointly design and develop the tank with FNSS Defense System, a joint venture between Turkish industrial group Nurol Holding and British defense giant BAE System.

While there is already a cooperation with China to locally build C-705 anti-ship missiles, Silmy said the KKIP was still looking at partners for the local production of radar and communication devices.

“We will soon have a propellant factory, which is important if we want to develop our own ammunition, missiles and rockets,” he said, without revealing what country the cooperation would be with.

“The propellant can also be used by Pindad to make large caliber ammunition for our tanks and artillery guns.”

Silmy emphasized that by mastering the technology to build these weapon systems, “we will no longer be easily dictated”.

The Defense Ministry was assigned a budget of Rp 83.4 trillion ($7.08 billion), the largest among other ministries and agencies as well as the highest ever recorded, from the 2014 State Budget.

Silmy, however, underlined that the defense budget was only at 0.8 percent of gross domestic product (GDP) while Singapore was at 4 percent. (dhi)

State-owned defense industries

• PT PAL
Established: 1980
Products: Surface vessels for commercial, security and military missions
Project: Building Indonesia’s first ever locally-made submarine under technical assistance from South Korea

• PT Pindad

Established: 1950
Products: Small firearms, ammunition, armored vehicles
Project: Medium tank with Turkish FNSS Defense System

• PT Dirgantara Indonesia

Established: 1976
Products: Airplanes and helicopters
Project: KFX/IFX jet fighter in a joint cooperation with South Korea

• PT Dahana
Established: 1966
Products: Explosive for commercial and military missions
Project: High-explosive plastic bombs for special forces
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thpace
post Feb 20 2014, 10:57 AM

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While i in Malaysia look in envy at Indonesia weapon procurements and development
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 20 2014, 10:57 AM)
While i in Malaysia look in envy at Indonesia weapon procurements and development
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long time we got defence companies, where we had made trucks, boats...but too much songlap...

bet in 5-10 years time, even Pinoy weapon procurements and developments surpasses us
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post Feb 20 2014, 11:24 AM

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ok

now let us check what ATM have got since year 2000 till now;

licenced built ACV-300 Adnan- checked
licenced built Frigates - checked
licenced built OPV - checked
SU-30MKM - checked
PT-91M - checked
URO VAMTAC - checked
Scopene Sub marine - checked
Atross II MLRS - checked
Next Generation LCS - Confirmed & on the way
AV8 - Confirmed & on the way
next-gen MRCA - by hook or by crook it will roll out

at the time ATM received all the assets, Indonesia at that particular timeline struggling with embargo & political instabilities..at that time, only a few not-so-significant procurement have been made to modernize their inventory

its not a surprise that they go on shopping spree this time around as their politics environment already stable, their embargo has been lift-off & their economy showing positive improvement

its not like ATM has slowed down, its just that Indonesia wanna catch up things that they have left behind years ago, hence the shopping
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:24 AM)
ok

now let us check what ATM have got since year 2000 till now;

licenced built ACV-300 Adnan- checked
licenced built Frigates - checked
licenced built OPV - checked
SU-30MKM - checked
PT-91M - checked
URO VAMTAC - checked
Scopene Sub marine - checked
Atross II MLRS - checked
Next Generation LCS - Confirmed & on the way
AV8 - Confirmed & on the way
next-gen MRCA - by hook or by crook it will roll out

at the time ATM received all the assets, Indonesia at that particular timeline struggling with embargo & political instabilities..at that time, only a few not-so-significant procurement have been made to modernize their inventory

its not a surprise that they go on shopping spree this time around as their politics environment already stable, their embargo has been lift-off & their economy showing positive improvement

its not like ATM has slowed down, its just that Indonesia wanna catch up things that they have left behind years ago, hence the shopping
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By the time they receive all their equipments, we will be mostly outdated sweat.gif

we also suppose to get SPG since like 10 years ago but till no news wink.gif
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Anybody read the article by TigerTalk on Mykini website.?

He write about jet leasing . My tought at the article is that it is fking piece of shit.


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post Feb 20 2014, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 20 2014, 11:27 AM)
By the time they receive all their equipments, we will be mostly outdated  sweat.gif 

we also suppose to get SPG since like 10 years ago but till no news wink.gif
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im not so sure which part that we will be mostly considered outdated when Indonesian received all of their equipment

what asset that will considered outdated compare to Indo procurement that u mean?
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Feb 20 2014, 11:24 AM)
ok

now let us check what ATM have got since year 2000 till now;

licenced built ACV-300 Adnan- checked
licenced built Frigates - checked
licenced built OPV - checked
SU-30MKM - checked
PT-91M - checked
URO VAMTAC - checked
Scopene Sub marine - checked
Atross II MLRS - checked
Next Generation LCS - Confirmed & on the way
AV8 - Confirmed & on the way
next-gen MRCA - by hook or by crook it will roll out

at the time ATM received all the assets, Indonesia at that particular timeline struggling with embargo & political instabilities..at that time, only a few not-so-significant procurement have been made to modernize their inventory

its not a surprise that they go on shopping spree this time around as their politics environment already stable, their embargo has been lift-off & their economy showing positive improvement

its not like ATM has slowed down, its just that Indonesia wanna catch up things that they have left behind years ago, hence the shopping
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18 SU-MKM with its R-77 and Krypton missiles are Malaysia's most important asset to defend against air and naval threats. Others like Hornet, frigates and PT-91M have supporting roles.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 20 2014, 11:27 AM)
By the time they receive all their equipments, we will be mostly outdated  sweat.gif 

we also suppose to get SPG since like 10 years ago but till no news wink.gif
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why the obsession with SPG? noticed you would spend monet on k9 sph. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ET-Force @ Feb 20 2014, 12:15 PM)
Anybody read the article by TigerTalk on Mykini website.?

He write about jet leasing . My tought at the article is that it is fking piece of shit.
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talk kok
leasing fighter jets is common
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 20 2014, 11:27 AM)
By the time they receive all their equipments, we will be mostly outdated  sweat.gif 

we also suppose to get SPG since like 10 years ago but till no news wink.gif
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but by the time they received all their equipment, we might on a buying spree, Pak-Fa, DDGs and whatnot tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 20 2014, 04:34 PM)
why the obsession with SPG? noticed you would spend monet on k9 sph.  hmm.gif
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K9, dgn NK pun kenot target NK's arty positions...
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ Feb 20 2014, 04:34 PM)
why the obsession with SPG? noticed you would spend monet on k9 sph.  hmm.gif
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well it look nice plus come with reload vehicle attached the back

Korean product no bad also smile.gif plus cheap
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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 18 2014, 07:48 PM)
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 20 2014, 04:36 PM)
but by the time they received all their equipment, we might on a buying spree, Pak-Fa, DDGs and whatnot  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
K9, dgn NK pun kenot target NK's arty positions...
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didn't SK use K9 to counter artillery the NK's barrage in Yeonpyong incidents?
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Hope and You May Get…

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KUALA LUMPUR: Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein told the Armed Forces today
that he will do whatever it take to get the necessary funds to re-capitalise the services.

He said 35 years ago his father – who was then the Defence Minister – had initially ordered only 5 Nuri
helicopters as they had only enough funds for the five. However, Hishammuddin said after listening to the
arguments of the leaders of the Armed Forces then, his father Tun Hussein made sure that enough funds
were allocated to buy another 35 Nuris.

More..
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He has spoken, good news or what?.. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 20 2014, 08:43 PM)
He has spoken, good news or what?..  sweat.gif
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maybe..maybe not..
dun get your hopes up smile.gif

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