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post Feb 19 2014, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 19 2014, 12:40 PM)
It quite norm to cancel off procurement.
as for malaysia it is about political list.
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political survivability > country defense against enemy

doh.gif Malaysia boleh!
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post Feb 19 2014, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2014, 12:58 PM)
political survivability > country defense against enemy

doh.gif  Malaysia boleh!
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What to do.
Even the opposition very eager to cut our budget down to 10%.
I have shoot some of my fren in dap which they felt there is no need for military as police can do the jobs.
But my member in sabah have change opinion on military become very supportive on military after the ld.

as for bn also cannot harap 1.

Not sure about pas though.
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post Feb 19 2014, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2014, 01:58 PM)
political survivability > country defense against enemy

doh.gif  Malaysia boleh!
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military is,and always, intertwined with politics. sun tzu acknowledged it, Jomini acknowledged it, von Clausewitz acknowledged it,etc.

up in strategic level, politics is the word of the day. from dictating militry doctrine,movement to assets procurement.

so if one say politic should be separated with military, he might as well living in his own utopian world
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post Feb 19 2014, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 19 2014, 01:11 PM)
What to do.
Even the opposition very eager to cut our budget down to 10%.
I have shoot some of my fren in dap which they felt there is no need for military as police can do the jobs.
But my member in sabah have change opinion on military become very supportive on military after the ld.

as for bn also cannot harap 1.

Not sure about pas though.
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ramai ex-military including retired generals and admirals joined PAS wat
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post Feb 19 2014, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 19 2014, 04:45 PM)
ramai ex-military including retired generals and admirals joined PAS wat
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tp aku berani cakap most of them join PAS pasal ada vendetta kat UMNO
contoh tak dapat projek


semua all man for himself

tp tak semua, ikhlas aku cakap
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post Feb 19 2014, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Feb 19 2014, 07:32 AM)
Good enough to begin with.... 1st experience with VDS. Among the scariest sound for submariners..... low freq sonar with very long howling sound....
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some sonar sound felt like hearing ghost/langsuir tgh weeping..wonder how u sonar guys can cope with all those weird and sometimes scary sounds.. ohmy.gif
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post Feb 19 2014, 08:25 PM

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Just wondering

which of our armed forces now need more attention?

sea, land or air?
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post Feb 19 2014, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2014, 08:25 PM)
Just wondering

which of our armed forces now need more attention?

sea, land or air?
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all, buleh?

for me its the navy!
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post Feb 19 2014, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2014, 08:25 PM)
Just wondering

which of our armed forces now need more attention?

sea, land or air?
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definitely navy
only have few modern ships with adequate equipment
the rest tunggu masa je nak jadik terumbu tiruan
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post Feb 19 2014, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2014, 08:25 PM)
Just wondering

which of our armed forces now need more attention?

sea, land or air?
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These 1 hard to pick.
but I prefer a more balance procurement for all 3 department.
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post Feb 19 2014, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 19 2014, 06:54 PM)
tp aku berani cakap most of them join PAS pasal ada vendetta kat UMNO
contoh tak dapat projek
semua all man for himself

tp tak semua, ikhlas aku cakap
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yg tu aku setuju. janji ABU tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 19 2014, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 19 2014, 08:56 PM)
yg tu aku setuju. janji ABU  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Lel tak kisah siapa yg ambik power result still the sama kebajikkan military selalu menjadi mangsa.
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post Feb 19 2014, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 19 2014, 08:25 PM)
Just wondering
which of our armed forces now need more attention?
sea, land or air?
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For me it's air force

and GAPU
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post Feb 19 2014, 09:10 PM

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kenapa x beli gripen? brazil beli 36 Gripen NG dpt 100% TOT..nnt malaysia boleh la keluarkan jet pejuang nasional pulak dan eksport ke negara2 yg x byk budget untuk military.. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 19 2014, 08:56 PM)
yg tu aku setuju. janji ABU  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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haha tp pak cik aku (kazen ayah aku)
sampai skrg tak brani jumpa bapak aku
walhal bapak aku pencen mejar je

hahahah
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post Feb 19 2014, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 19 2014, 09:10 PM)
haha tp pak cik aku  (kazen ayah aku)
sampai skrg tak brani jumpa bapak aku
walhal bapak aku pencen mejar je

hahahah
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laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

politics aside, dgn budget constraint ni, rasa2 yer utk 3-4 tahun, ko ada semangat ke nak pi DSA atau LIMA? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Feb 19 2014, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(leon-chua @ Feb 19 2014, 09:10 PM)
kenapa x beli gripen? brazil beli 36 Gripen NG dpt 100% TOT..nnt malaysia boleh la keluarkan jet pejuang nasional pulak dan eksport ke negara2 yg x byk budget untuk military.. rclxms.gif
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No need, you need to have strong aerospace manufacturing industry for utilizing the ToT
We simply dun have that capability, and it cost huge moneh also

Why you sound like heckline? are you heckline?
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post Feb 19 2014, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 19 2014, 09:12 PM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

politics aside, dgn budget constraint ni, rasa2 yer utk 3-4 tahun, ko ada semangat ke nak pi DSA atau LIMA?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Dey, DSA aku ada aaa, dah booking hotel daaa

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post Feb 19 2014, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 19 2014, 09:13 PM)
No need, you need to have strong aerospace manufacturing industry for utilizing the ToT
We simply dun have that capability, and it cost huge moneh also

Why you sound like heckline? are you heckline?
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salah orang ni..heckline = king of fighter
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post Feb 19 2014, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(leon-chua @ Feb 19 2014, 09:10 PM)
kenapa x beli gripen? brazil beli 36 Gripen NG dpt 100% TOT..nnt malaysia boleh la keluarkan jet pejuang nasional pulak dan eksport ke negara2 yg x byk budget untuk military.. rclxms.gif
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me thinks this is better to leave to the procurement team!

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