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post May 3 2014, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(kinabalu @ May 3 2014, 11:46 PM)
WIKI say they are the best anti guerrilla unit on earth, wonder how is ours compare to them?  hmm.gif
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can't say for certain
if our commandos fight those insurgents, they won't be fighting mano-o-mano with them like pinoy probably does..
like in LD, ours will fight with the support of artillery, air strike..thus, higher chance our commandos will win..
or maybe our Senoi Praaq will be enough to annihilate the insurgents.. notworthy.gif
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post May 3 2014, 11:59 PM

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Best in the world based on some hyped up propaganda and wikipedia? Please kill me now.

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 3 2014, 11:39 PM)
true that..wonder what kind of training those insurgents have for them to able to fight as equal to the commandos? hmm.gif
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Fighting in their own turf. they know every nook and cranny of which to hide from the army. The Sulu peoples have been fighting since they were kids. Mostly among themselves. They dont view death as a tragedy like most people are, instead death to them is like accidently twist an ankle to us.
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QUOTE(red streak @ May 3 2014, 11:59 PM)
Best in the world based on some hyped up propaganda and wikipedia? Please kill me now.
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I cant say much about it... hmm.gif

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The Scout Rangers, known officially as the First Scout Ranger Regiment, is a Philippine Army Special Operations Command unit, and specializes in anti-guerrilla warfare. The regiment has been boasted as one of the world's best anti-guerrilla fighters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Scout_Rangers
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QUOTE(kinabalu @ May 3 2014, 11:46 PM)
WIKI say they are the best anti guerrilla unit on earth, wonder how is ours compare to them?  hmm.gif
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during the 70s and 80s, our soldiers was considered among the best in jungle warfare. The reason is very simple. At that time, we face an active insurgency. Even the Wataniah at that time was a highly experience soldiers. There's no substitute to real combat experience in shaping a soldier. There's nothing like a real threat of death to push a person beyond their limit.
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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ May 4 2014, 12:10 AM)
during the 70s and 80s, our soldiers was considered among the best in jungle warfare. The reason is very simple. At that time, we face an active insurgency. Even the Wataniah at that time was a highly experience soldiers. There's no substitute to real combat experience in shaping a soldier. There's nothing like a real threat of death to push a person beyond their limit.
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true true.. nod.gif
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post May 4 2014, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 3 2014, 10:52 PM)
after watching multiple spec ops training TV documentaries, i think i can say that the toughest spec ops are among those from Asia's nations..and the most hardcore of them all are among the South East Asia nations' spec ops..  ohmy.gif

and btw, is it true that pinoy actually send their spec ops's trainees on an actual combat mission against insurgents as a final test for the recruits to passed before they are approved as part of the particular spec ops unit?  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif

edited: i found out which spec ops unit is that..Phillipine's Scout Rangers..good lord, they actually send them to actual combat before their graduation ceremony..  ohmy.gif
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Though this "test" mission is more like recon only, sometimes they got unlucky too, ambushed and whatnot.. every year got casualties sad.gif

Last year.. rip

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Slain soldiers in Sulu were on test mission

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ZAMBOANGA CITY—“We still haven’t learned our lessons,” retired Col. Ariel Querubin, a former superintendent of the Philippine Marine Corps Training Center, said of the killings of seven Marines in a clash with Abu Sayyaf bandits in Patikul, Sulu, on Saturday.

“They were on a test mission, these were students, they may be the best considering they were with the Recon (reconnaissance team), they belonged to the Marines’ elite team but the doctrine of the Recon is basically just to go out there to gather data and they are not there to engage their enemies,” Querubin said Sunday in a phone interview.

Around 20 soldiers on two teams of the Force Reconnaissance Battalion were sent to Tugas, a hilly jungle in Patikul, for the purported test mission that led to the incident in which seven Abu Sayyaf bandits were also killed.


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post May 4 2014, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ May 4 2014, 01:06 AM)
Though this "test" mission is more like recon only, sometimes they got unlucky too, ambushed and whatnot.. every year got casualties sad.gif

Last year.. rip
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i don't know whether to call it brave or effective or smart or idiotic to send trainees into actual combat..

the comments are right in this one>>
"If it was indeed a test mission, why send them into hostile terrain, and with a military objective? If it was a bonafide combat mission, why send green troops under an inexperienced junior officer into unfamiliar, enemy-infested country? Weren't there any other Marine units, who have years of experience fighting the Abus, and who know the territory, who could have been sent?"
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List of TNI armaments procurement in MEF phase I (2010-2014), based on recent data released by Kementerian Pertahanan RI.
There are no more purchases until the new president is elected and new cabinet is formed in October this year, which is also the start of MEF Phase II (2015-2019).

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post May 4 2014, 11:59 AM

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ooo... They are buying EC-725 too
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QUOTE(yinchet @ May 3 2014, 12:37 PM)
RMN and JMSDF Conduct PASSEX In The East China Sea

The RMN and its Japanese counterpart, the JMSDF have jointly conducted Eks Goodwill, a passing exercise (PASSEX) involving the Kasturi class corvette, KD Kasturi (F-25) and two destroyer namely the Kongo class guided missile destroyer, JDS Chokai (DD-176) and Murasame class general purpose destroyer, JDS Harusame (DD-102).

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JDS Chokai

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JDS Harusame

The Harusame also deployed its Mitsubishi SH-60J Seahawk helicopter as part of the exercise.

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JDS Harusame organic SH-60J aviation element

Eks Goodwill was conducted on April 27 over the East China Sea in which it involved several elements of the exercise including exercise publication, tactical manouvers, RASAP and PHOTEX. Interestingly, the PASSEX between the two countries were executed in Sea State 4 (Moderate) condition.

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Battlejacks of the RMN and the JMSDF.
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apa ni indo pun mau tiru nak beli Cougar jugak..beli la lain~ mad.gif

they're buying a whole lot of artillery and ATGM too..damn..those Javelins too.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kinabalu @ May 4 2014, 10:59 AM)
ooo... They are buying EC-725 too
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Most of the parts are made by PT.DI

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 4 2014, 05:42 PM)
apa ni indo pun mau tiru nak beli Cougar jugak..beli la lain~  mad.gif

they're buying a whole lot of artillery and ATGM too..damn..those Javelins too..  sweat.gif
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Besides Malaysia, Indonesia purchased 6 units & Thailand purchased 4 units.

Parts of the airframe of the Cougar were being made by PT.DI.

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Additionally, the Indonesian company has been supplying upper and lower fuselage sections and tail booms for the EC725/EC225 since 2012 for a total production currently set at 125 shipsets. It also serves as the customization and delivery center for AS365 N3+ Dauphin, EC725 Cougar and AS350/AS555 Fennec helicopters ordered by the Indonesian government through PT Dirgantara Indonesia.

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6th annual Warrior Competition at the King Abdullah II Special Operations Training Center (KASOTC)

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 3 2014, 10:52 PM)
after watching multiple spec ops training TV documentaries, i think i can say that the toughest spec ops are among those from Asia's nations..and the most hardcore of them all are among the South East Asia nations' spec ops..  ohmy.gif

and btw, is it true that pinoy actually send their spec ops's trainees on an actual combat mission against insurgents as a final test for the recruits to passed before they are approved as part of the particular spec ops unit?  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif

edited: i found out which spec ops unit is that..Phillipine's Scout Rangers..good lord, they actually send them to actual combat before their graduation ceremony..  ohmy.gif
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what I heard is that our SpecOps trainees had to 'capture' police station as one of their final test...when they 'captured' the police station, then they will rang the district police officer to come down and signed the acknowledgement papers that they had successfully 'captured' the police station..
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ May 5 2014, 11:30 AM)
what I heard is that our SpecOps trainees had to 'capture' police station as one of their final test...when they 'captured' the police station, then they will rang the district police officer to come down and signed the acknowledgement papers that they had successfully 'captured' the police station..
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Capture bukit aman will unlocked new achievement. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ May 5 2014, 11:16 AM)
6th annual Warrior Competition at the King Abdullah II Special Operations Training Center (KASOTC)

http://www.recoilweb.com/recoil-is-on-the-...l#ixzz30o7G5VFy
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Ni yg bila punye ni...klu tahun lepas x salah china police commando menang...followed by palestin then china lagi
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anyone have information on PSSTLDM? Do they have intake for this year?

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