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post May 2 2014, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ May 1 2014, 04:49 PM)
I will give my comment later on the questions
1. Why we need ASW ship?
2. Why take out torpedo from laksamana?
Tgh bz shooping ni
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In 2nd question...laksamana class ship is really a robust ship...only use for war. Pakai habis punye...why I said so...because theres no possibilities to access to any main equipment in case need to be taken out for repair. Iraq use this only for war purpose.

Talking about ASW capability like sonar & torpedo, to be an ASW ship, it must be silent.....in this case laksamana is noisy, so it defeats the purpose to be an ASW ship
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Army thinking local to modernize weapons system

The Jakarta Post, Jakarta | National | Wed, April 30 2014, 10:01 AM

The Indonesian Army is planning to transform its primary weapons defense system through increased collaboration with local universities and homegrown military industries.

Army chief of staff Gen. Budiman said that the plan, which will cover 2015 through 2019, had been approved by the government and the House of Representatives.

“We have stated in our work plan submitted to the House that more funds in our budget will be allocated for the weapons system,” he said at a press conference following the unveiling of a speedboat from the project at Ancol Beach in North Jakarta on Tuesday.

Budiman said upgrading the weapons system was greatly important as the trend in battle and warfare was to rely more on higher-speed, more accurate and better-measured weaponry.

Budiman said the House approved a total budget of Rp 36 trillion (US$3.09 billion) for the Army this year. A large portion of the budget, 72 percent, will go toward salaries. Around 17-18 percent is allocated for operations and maintenance and 9 percent for weaponry and equipment.

“We are using the 9 percent, which means around Rp 3.5 trillion, to fund the weapons system and all research needed for that,” he said.

To prevent graft and wasteful spending in the modernization program, Budiman said he had asked generals and high-ranking officers in the Army to sign an integrity pact to ensure that all procurement and research programs for the weapons system would be transparent and efficient.

On Tuesday, the Army unveiled a new model of speedboat called the “Komando”, built in collaboration with a group of technicians and experts from local universities, including Surya University, a campus established by prominent Indonesian scientist Yohannes Surya.

Other universities involved in the project are the Surabaya-based 10 November Institute of Technology (ITS), Bandung Institute of Technology (ITB) and the Semarang, Central Java-based University of Diponegoro (UNDIP). The Army also invited PT KKB, PT Tesco Indomaritim and PT Dok and Perkapalan Kodja Bahari Galangan IV to manufacture the boats.

Budiman said that as of now, the Army and its partners had built two of the speedboats, but planned to have another eight this year. He said that one of the boats cost Rp 12 billion, cheaper than buying from abroad.

“Finland manufactures the same type of speedboat and it costs Rp 24 billion, so it’s far cheaper if we build them by ourselves,” he said.

Budiman said the Army would use the speedboats to patrol border areas such as Natuna, Bangka Belitung, Aceh and East Nusa Tenggara.

The “Komando” speedboats can be operated on the high sea, coastlines, rivers and swamp areas, and have a capacity of 31 passengers and three crewmembers. “Currently, the boats can only reach a maximum of 35 knots, but we are developing newer ones that can reach 45 knots,” he added.

Also in the pipeline are programs to build laser guns, remote weapon systems, UAV/Super Drone, Integrated Optronic Defense System, Gyrocopter, Multi Rotor and Flapping Bird.

Another piece of sophisticated equipment in development by the Army and its contractors is the nanosatellite, which can be used for land-imaging and monitoring. “We plan to export more of our locally made weapons and equipment, but currently we are focusing on research and improving capability,” Budiman said. (gda)


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post May 2 2014, 01:26 PM

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Ukraine crisis update:

The Ukrainian army is said to have opened an offensive on the separatist-held city of Slaviansk, eastern Ukraine. Gunfire and explosions can be heard near and inside the city. Unconfirmed reports say a Mi-24 helicopter has been shot down by separatist militias, it's pilot is reported dead and the assistant pilot/gunner is injured but alive and have been captured by separatist militias. Another helicopter (unknown what type) is also reported to have made an emergency landing due to as yet unknown reasons.

Reports also said some armored vehicles are seen burning,but whether they belong to government or separatists is still unknown.

Operations are reportedly still ongoing. More updates as they happen.

Update: unconfirmed reports have surfaced saying another Ukraine military helicopter have been shot down by separatist militias.

Update: The earlier report of Ukraine army Mi-24 helicopter shot down has been confirmed by Ukraine Interior Ministry via SkyNews and BBC. Reports say it was shot down with a guided Missile of unknown type by separatist militias. The pilot was reported to be KIA while the injured assistant pilot/gunner has been captured by separatist militias and have been sent to the hospital for treatment.

Update: Ukraine Defense Ministry confirms another Mi-24 Helicopter have been shot down by separatist militias and a Mi-8 helicopter have been forced to an emergency landing due to small arms fire. The fate of the crew of both helicopters are currently unknown.

Ukraine Defense Ministry confirms Helicopters shot down in Slaviansk

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post May 2 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Apr 30 2014, 02:11 PM)
Tidak....jangan la post lagi psl indon punye procurement. Terseksa batinku.... melihat senangnye diornh shopping compare dgn kita
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mostly hutang tu bang...
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Apr 30 2014, 02:11 PM)
Tidak....jangan la post lagi psl indon punye procurement. Terseksa batinku.... melihat senangnye diornh shopping compare dgn kita
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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ May 2 2014, 03:13 PM)
mostly hutang tu bang...
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yeah, but also got some locally-made or assembled, good for their local industry..

takper, this is their time, next will be ours..
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 2 2014, 01:26 PM)
Ukraine crisis update:

The Ukrainian army is said to have opened an offensive on the separatist-held city of Slaviansk, eastern Ukraine. Gunfire and explosions can be heard near and inside the city. Unconfirmed reports say a Mi-24 helicopter has been shot down by separatist militias, it's pilot is reported dead and the assistant pilot/gunner is injured but alive and have been captured by separatist militias. Another helicopter (unknown what type) is also reported to have made an emergency landing due to as yet unknown reasons.

Reports also said some armored vehicles are seen burning,but whether they belong to government or separatists is still unknown.

Operations are reportedly still ongoing. More updates as they happen.

Update: unconfirmed reports have surfaced saying another Ukraine military helicopter have been shot down by separatist militias.

Update: The earlier report of Ukraine army Mi-24 helicopter shot down has been confirmed by Ukraine Interior Ministry via SkyNews and BBC. Reports say it was shot down with a guided Missile of unknown type by separatist militias. The pilot was reported to be KIA while the injured assistant pilot/gunner has been captured by separatist militias and have been sent to the hospital for treatment.
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probably IGLA..Russia must have give them AA to the separatists..
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post May 2 2014, 04:21 PM

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Ukrainian military Mi-8 taking a lot of small arms fire.


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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Apr 25 2014, 09:27 PM)
kecik dan ringan. macam apache tu berat gila especially bila bawak longbow radar.
cuba tengok afghanistan campaign, mana ada US apache bawak longbow radar along. only the british does it because of their rolls-royce engine (note: Westland Apache, not Boeing)
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Apr 25 2014, 09:38 PM)
moar powah

waktu british order apache tu, dia memang mintak tukar engine stock kepada rolls-royce engine which provide at least 25-30% more power. bila naik kawasan gunung macam kat afghanistan sambil bawak longbow radar, terus jadi pekara mudah.

US on the other hand, terus buang longbow radar tuh sebab berat sangat nak panjat gunung.
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Looks like the British are now looking to procure the AH-64E Guardian as the WAH-64D Block 1 are rapidly becoming unsupportable.

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AH-64E looking increasingly likely for UK

Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

19 March 2014

The UK looks increasingly likely to procure the Boeing AH-64E Apache Guardian attack helicopter, following comments made by a senior government minister on 17 March.

Answering questions in the House of Commons, Philip Dunne, Minister for Defence Equipment, Support, and Technology, said that the government is currently considering options to sustain the British Army's Apache fleet until its planned out of service date in 2040.

The 66 WAH-64D Block I helicopters in the UK inventory are rapidly becoming unsupportable, as the US Army and Boeing shift their attention to the AH-64D Block II and AH-64E (formerly known as AH-64D Block III) fleets as operated by the US and most international customers. While the Ministry of Defence (MoD) is known to be looking at options to replace the army's current AgustaWestland-Boeing WAH-64D Apache Longbow AH.1 fleet, ministers have previously only spoken about retaining the capability as opposed to retaining the Apache specifically. Options previously touted included the procurement of a new helicopter type altogether.

Given the success of the Apache in Afghanistan and Libya, the British Army has made clear its desire to upgrade its current WAH-64D Block I helicopters with the latest variant AH-64E. Speaking at the IQPC International Military Helicopter conference in London in January, the deputy commander of the tri-service Joint Helicopter Command (JHC), Brigadier Neil Sexton, said that the army "rather hopes" that the AH-64E will be the chosen successor, for fielding before 2020.

Boeing officials have previously told IHS Jane's that AH-64E programme delays incurred by sequestration in the United States were having the unintended consequence of buying the United Kingdom time in making its decision, although a decision will need to be made before too much longer.

The MoD is currently undertaking a capability sustainment programme (CSP) to sustain the UK's attack helicopter capability out to 2040 and beyond, but has declined to say when it will report the findings of this study.


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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ May 2 2014, 04:21 PM)
Ukrainian military Mi-8 taking a lot of small arms fire

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Production standard AH-6i Little Bird makes maiden flight

Gareth Jennings, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
01 May 2014
   
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The first production standard Boeing AH-6i Little Bird light attack/reconnaissance helicopter seen during its maiden flight out of the company's Mesa production facility in Arizona. Source: Boeing

The first production standard Boeing AH-6i Little Bird light attack/reconnaissance helicopter has made its maiden flight, the company announced on 1 May.

The flight, which took place at Boeing's Mesa production facility in Arizona, lasted about 20 minutes and saw the helicopter flown in forward, rearward, and sideward directions at low elevations. Future tests will expand the flight envelope over the next several months.

In November 2013 Boeing disclosed it had signed its first customer for the AH-6i, which has been developed specifically for the international market (a version for the US Army is designated AH-6S). While company officials have so far declined to name that customer, IHS Jane's understands it to be the Saudi Arabian National Guard, which is to receive 24 helicopters.

Developed from the 1960s-era Hughes Model 369 (OH-6 Cayuse in US Army service), the AH-6i is the latest incarnation of the venerable Little Bird-series of helicopters currently fielded by international MD 500-series operators, and the US Special Operations Command in the guise of the AH/MH-6 Mission Enhanced Little Bird (MELB).

The AH-6i shares a lot of the attributes that made the OH-6 and later MD 500-series helicopters so successful, including the helicopter's diminutive size (the main rotor system is only 8.33 m in diameter, and from tip-to-tail it is only about 9.95 m in length), and a highly crash-resistant A-frame with rugged skid landing gear. Also, as with previous models, the AH-6i does not use hydraulics but utilises a straight mechanical flight-control system, making it more responsive to the pilot's commands, while simplifying maintenance.

The AH-6i advances the Little Bird in terms of its powerplant, payloads, and avionics. Its full-authority digital engine control (FADEC)-equipped Rolls-Royce 250-C30R/3M powerplant (generating 650 shp but limited by the helicopter's drive system to 600 shp) is linked to a new six-bladed main rotor assembly with composite blades (compared to five metal blades before). This makes the AH-6i compliant with the US Army's 6k/95 benchmark for hovering out of ground effect (HOGE) with a typical mission weight (about 1,800 kg comprising two crew members, full fuel, and weapons), and allows it to carry a four-station weapons plank as opposed to the usual two-station plank of previous generation Little Birds.

The AH-6i's payload fit includes the Dillon M134D 7.62 mm Gatling gun, General Dynamics GAU-19 12.7 mm Gatling gun, FN Herstal M3P 12.7 mm chain gun, Lockheed Martin AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missiles, as well as a variety of seven-shot 'dumb' or laser-guided 70 mm rocket systems.

The enhanced avionics are based on the same software as the Boeing AH-64E Apache Guardian attack helicopter, affording it superior performance and increased interoperability, and comprises a digital 'glass' cockpit that features colour multifunctional display units for both pilots, and a reduced number of avionics boxes which brings down the aircraft's overall weight (again, feeding into an increased payload performance). As the AH-6i has been developed for the international market, all the avionics are compliant with the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The AH-6i is also equipped with a chin-mounted L-3 Wescam MX-15Di electro-optic/infrared (EO/IR) sensor turret.

Boeing has previously estimated a potential global market of around 700 helicopters for the Little Bird, including the US Army's Armed Aerial Scout requirement, the future of which is unclear at this time. This market is predominately geared at replacing ageing MD 500-series and AH-1 Cobra platforms.


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Indonesian Navy to acquire 16 ASW helicopters

Ridzwan Rahmat, Singapore and James Hardy, London - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
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The Indonesian Navy has chosen the AS565 Panther helicopter for its ASW requirement. Source: IHS/Patrick Allen

The Indonesian Navy (Tentera Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL) is to acquire 16 AS565 Panther anti-submarine warfare (ASW) helicopters from Airbus Helicopters, it announced on 28 April.

"The contract is in the final stages of being approved by the defence ministry. However, we are not able to give a timeline as to when the helicopters will be delivered", said Vice Admiral Untong Suropati, the TNI-AL's head of communications. He added that the aim is to embark the aircraft on vessels such as the SIGMA 10514-class guided-missile corvettes.

According to the TNI-AL, the decision to purchase the AS565 was made at the recommendation of aircraft manufacturer PT Dirgantara Indonesia (PTDI), which will be involved in the production of the aircraft. PTDI has previously worked with Airbus on the manufacture of CN235 medium transport aircraft.

A PTDI spokesperson told IHS Jane's on 2 May that the company will be working with Airbus Helicopters in manufacturing the airframes and dipping sonar equipment. PTDI and Airbus Helicopters may produce all 16 aircraft in Bandung. Details for any joint production arrangements will be finalised once the contract has been confirmed by TNI-AL.

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The navy's ASW helicopter requirement is one element of Jakarta's ongoing programme to develop what it calls a 'Minimum Essential Force' (MEF), which also includes the development of a defence industrial base through transfer of technology (ToT), joint production and joint development.

Divided into three phases - 2010-2014, 2015-2019, and 2020-2024 - the navy's procurements include the ASW helicopter; the phased mid-life modernisation of two corvettes for an estimated USD100 million; two hydrographic and oceanographic research ships (USD100 million); a new sail training ship (USD80 million); and two CN 235 maritime patrol aircraft (USD60 million).

The naval air arm is organised into two wings: Udara 1 at Juanda (the main training base) and Udara 2 at Tanjung Pinang. The most modern helicopters in service are four Bell 412 EP helicopters delivered in 2012. In 2011 the navy said that the Kaman SH-2G Super Seasprite was a contender for the helicopter requirement; this was likely due to the availability of SH-2Gs that were ordered and then cancelled by Australia - these aircraft have since been purchased by New Zealand.

The requirement for ASW helicopters reflects the increase in subsurface fleets in Southeast Asia. Singapore is expanding its submarine fleet from four to six boats with the procurement of two Type 218SGs from ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, while Vietnam recently received the first two of six 'Kilo'-class boats from Russia. Indonesia itself is purchasing three Chang Bogo-class diesel-electric attack submarines from South Korea, while China's ongoing naval build-up includes attack and ballistic missile submarines.


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RMN and JMSDF Conduct PASSEX In The East China Sea

The RMN and its Japanese counterpart, the JMSDF have jointly conducted Eks Goodwill, a passing exercise (PASSEX) involving the Kasturi class corvette, KD Kasturi (F-25) and two destroyer namely the Kongo class guided missile destroyer, JDS Chokai (DD-176) and Murasame class general purpose destroyer, JDS Harusame (DD-102).

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JDS Chokai

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JDS Harusame

The Harusame also deployed its Mitsubishi SH-60J Seahawk helicopter as part of the exercise.

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JDS Harusame organic SH-60J aviation element

Eks Goodwill was conducted on April 27 over the East China Sea in which it involved several elements of the exercise including exercise publication, tactical manouvers, RASAP and PHOTEX. Interestingly, the PASSEX between the two countries were executed in Sea State 4 (Moderate) condition.

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Battlejacks of the RMN and the JMSDF.
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MMEA adds nine high-tech 'Thunder Boats'

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KOTA KINABALU: The Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) will receive nine advanced technology new boats ‘Thunder Boats’ to further strengthen its defense assets, especially within Eastern Sabah Security Zone (ESSZone).

MMEA deputy director-general (operations) Maritime Admiral Datuk Ahmad Puzi Ab. Kahar (pictured) said the additional assets were important in monitoring the waters bordering the southern Philippines, for the purpose of investigation and operations.

“The additional assets will help MMEA to step up patrol duty effectively and enable MMEA to react faster to complaints or information on criminal activities. The boats will be undergoing safety test,” he told reporters here yesterday.

He said the boats, with rescue and interception capacity, were capable of intercepting any threat of intrusion with a speed of 65 knots.

“In addition, this boat is able to conduct patrols in three to four hours for a distance of 74.08km (40 nautical miles),” he said.

Ahmad Puzi said MMEA was also expanding its radar control system for detection of any intrusions, especially by small boats.

“However we still need the close cooperation of villagers especially those living in the coastal areas to channel information to the local authority should they come across any elements of intrusion in their surroundings,” he said. Meanwhile, Ahmad Puzi said the agency was planning to build a Malaysian Maritime Air Base in Kota Kinabalu and Sandakan.

“If this materialises, we will station two aircraft and six AW139 helicopters at the base. The base is to further enhance the operations of MMEA,” he said.

He said the total strength would also be increased to more than 1,000 by the year end, in addition to the current number of about 800 officers in Sabah.
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after watching multiple spec ops training TV documentaries, i think i can say that the toughest spec ops are among those from Asia's nations..and the most hardcore of them all are among the South East Asia nations' spec ops.. ohmy.gif

and btw, is it true that pinoy actually send their spec ops's trainees on an actual combat mission against insurgents as a final test for the recruits to passed before they are approved as part of the particular spec ops unit? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

edited: i found out which spec ops unit is that..Phillipine's Scout Rangers..good lord, they actually send them to actual combat before their graduation ceremony.. ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 3 2014, 10:52 PM)
after watching multiple spec ops training TV documentaries, i think i can say that the toughest spec ops are among those from Asia's nations..and the most hardcore of them all are among the South East Asia nations' spec ops..  ohmy.gif

and btw, is it true that pinoy actually send their spec ops's trainees on an actual combat mission against insurgents as a final test for the recruits to passed before they are approved as part of the particular spec ops unit?  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif

edited: i found out which spec ops unit is that..Phillipine's Scout Rangers..good lord, they actually send them to actual combat before their graduation ceremony..  ohmy.gif
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Yeah.....so much agony too  blush.gif
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damnnn they are THAT hardcore ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

how the heck MILF/MNLF/Abu Sayyaf/Commies still survive fighting these guys? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 3 2014, 11:13 PM)
damnnn they are THAT hardcore  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif

how the heck MILF/MNLF/Abu Sayyaf/Commies still survive fighting these guys?  rclxub.gif
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Bcoz MILF/MNLF/Abu Sayyaf/Commies are tougher than those spec ops guys? hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(acapniamaxtor @ May 3 2014, 11:28 PM)
Bcoz MILF/MNLF/Abu Sayyaf/Commies are tougher than those spec ops guys? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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true that..wonder what kind of training those insurgents have for them to able to fight as equal to the commandos? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ May 3 2014, 11:39 PM)
true that..wonder what kind of training those insurgents have for them to able to fight as equal to the commandos? hmm.gif
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WIKI say they are the best anti guerrilla unit on earth, wonder how is ours compare to them? hmm.gif

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