Well said girls! I do read about avoid using those toner with alcohol and I have used it on myself too from Clinique range. It is like a burning sensation to my skin. Even though it says it is dermalogical tested.

From my experience, don't totally 100% believe on those word, be a wise consumer. Do research and make comparison, you don't risk your skin with products that are not suitable.

wow I thanks for the explanation jinyee..

anyway you ever heard about NATASHA product? most of my friends already try it.. and all of them seems works but Im afraid to use it since Im fairly OK with clearasil..

so what you think?

oh yea my skin condition is good, there are no big/wild acne ..but sometimes a little/tiny spot ..not that much

This post has been edited by Youko_Misaki: Jul 17 2006, 07:38 PM

jinyee~
since you so knowledgeable in ANCE
can u gv some advise for me..
wha's the best cleanser should i use to cure my ance problem...
im oily skin ..
i did use OXY

To Youko Misake,

I'm so sorry that I just could not provide you any advice because I never heard NATASHA before and if you could, please provide me the HTTP link to the website that has information about it, perhaps I can have a look and let you know roughly about the product's pros and cons. Clearisil is too aggresive I would say to the skin, the P.acne bacteria which causes acne will get tendency towards Triclosan, which is also the main ingredient used to prevent acne in Clearisil. As I always emphasized, go for really MILD cleanser and MILD moisturizer. Don't think that moisturizer with a lots of skin benefiting ingredients from A-Z in a product will help your skin much. No, it did not because imagine that you are applying a one-and-for-all solution on your skin. Your skin will get exhausted which it did not only develop acne as consequences, but it may also bring on other skin problems.

Since you say your skin is good, I would advise you to use mask at least once per week for moisturizing purposes. Once a blue moon of break out is very normal, don't really take it too hard!


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To rainwen,


Oily skin, acne...are popular words among teenagers welcoming the puberty stage. Well, which OXY do you really use? the 5% BP or the 10%? Oily skin doesn't mean its bad, practically oily skin owner tends not to get frickles as dry skin people. So, you wouldn't look old when you are 'old'. It is just that you must know how to deal with your skin, then acne wouldn't be a problem at all. Please let me know your cleanser, moisturizer, toner types and your diet, jobs and relevant info before I start my advise.

great info from ya jinyee

im using neutrogena pore refining cleanser currently....hmm i think the scrub tat present in the foam had make my skin thinner ... any better solution?

fyi, my skin type .... oily at t-zone...erm....obvious acne during menstrual period ....n my hands r juz cnt stop themselv frm pressing the pimples help me pls gals *pray*

Qi_iQ,

You have combination skin. Cleanser, I would say perhaps its your psychology makes you think that your skin is thinner because you did not wash your face for an hour, you wash it around 3-5minutes which it will not show significant impact on your skin.

No pressing. You will tend to cause other bacteria to get into your inner skin. If you would like tp press, its ok, but make sure your hand is clean, and use a what people call it as an acne tool which it has a hole on the centre and you may apply equal force to force the pus out from the acne. Make sure you clean the tool as well when you use it. Then, apply either tea tree oil or other calming properties to soothe the skin. Anyway, I would return to my old thought that you shouldn't press acne, it will cause severe scars if you did it wrongly. Why would you wan to risk yourself, especially your face?

Acne, due to menstrul, unstable hormone decretion. Perhaps some contraceptive pill might help but its not advisable. If you would like to have flawless skin, you gona invest on it. Perhaps you can go for Diane35 if you afford it. Take a look

http://www.diane35.com/html/index.html

Anyway, take note that there's NO evidence saying that your acne will grow out, meaning that they will stop automatically. Anyway, I would not say 100% wouldn't, some might, esepcially those who due to hormone, will stop getting acne when they reach certain age.

Many people tend to get acne, majority reason is that they use the wrong skincare products. Apply everything auntie A said its ok, then when you didn't see result in 2 days( standard time for your skin to reflect the result of the usage of certain skincare products would be at least 1.5 months), you change straight to auntie B's recommendation. Your skin just can't tolerate to change this, and suddenly that.

thanks...i will hold myself better not to press the pimples

btw, do i need to cont use the neutrogena pore refining or i can cahnge to other cleanser? hmm....i planning to get elianto anyone heard of it?

Its up to u Qi_iQ for the pore refining stuff. Anyway, heard their pore refining essence contains vitamin A and other properties but it might irritate fragile skin.

Never heard of Elianto before. Perhaps you could provide me the hyperlink.

wahh good explanation here, thanks to jinyee for opening this kind of thread

Hi, i have a questions here.
I have quite serious pimples marks on my back. How can i get rid/ ligthen the marks away? Coz u know sometimes is really annoying, as wanna wear spagetti / singlet, then can see those marks obviously. So sad
I 've tried to use T3 body wash and the scrub as well. But it doesn't help much. Now using body shop T3 scrub and spray toner on my back, also the same thing.
IT is better to consult skin specialist and apply the medicine they provide?? Please advise. thanks

tis the Elianto links....but it provide not muc info bout the products @_@

http://www.elianto.biz

bt heard tat is korean product made of fruits worr.....

oh ya jinyee, is it good if i oways change my facial products, under same brand but for diff purpose used ?

Well, tomato_gal, if I were you, I would not use any products again for my back, except MILD soap that did not strip the natural sebum of the skin. The marks are also called as hyperpigmentation. Given the time, it will heal itself as our body is able to heal itself. So, do not scrub too much, it hurts the skin, perhaps once per week is ok.

Okie, since many people is using NeuCare T3 acne products, I will comment this brand here. Its main ingredient in its acne facial cleanser and spot gel would be purely tea tree oil. Tea tree oil has the antiseptic function but yet it irritate some's skin. Some might develop itchness while some might feel tingling and so on so forth. T3 body wash contains not only tea tree oil, but also triclosan. Again, it will be very drying if you use two 'anti-acne' agents together though it lets you think that the more they put in, the faster you gonna heal.

One key word, very important key word you need to bear in mind when facing with acne problem would be 'PATIENT'. Do research about one product before you try it on your skin. Don't listen to those auntie A claims or auntie B's praise towards the products. Yup, some might works for some people but not every skincare products suit everyone. Therefore you saw so many skincare companies producing various products for various target market.

Lastly, I would conclude that, use MILD soap, scrub once per week and wear clothes that could evaporate your sweats fast. Because the longer it retains on your skin, the more chance the bacteria might cause skin problems.

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To Qi_iQ,

Made from fruits, okie, talking about natural products, we should not miss out the famous pioneer BODYSHOP. Well, bodyshop's products are well known but do you really believe that their products are totally made from natural ingredients without any artifical addictative? The answer is NO because if lets say they use banana to make shampoo, the manufacturer is at UK and their target market is worldwide, do you think if they did not add in anything to preserve the shelf life of their products. Overall, it returns to business. Try to stick on brand that you are familiar with. Because your skin has turned into the mode to suit the skincare products already.

Always change...erm..no advisable but if let's say scrub is ok...but you really need to have a facial cleanser that you wouldn't change that frequently because its the first step in skincare and the first step is essential.

U mentioned MILD soap. What kind of soap it that?? Any recommendation?? Have u ever heard of Cetaphil? Sold in guardian and watson as well as hospital. It got both facial and body care products. I am thinking of using this for body wash. It that ok? Well, yeah, i use scrub normally is 1-2 per week only. Never scrub everyday, coz will harm our skin. I have been patient for long le... my back marks still won't disappear.so sad la

oh sorry I dont think there is a web about NATASHA product

well i'll follow your advice about the mask.. which mask product is good?

Yes, Cetaphil is among the top two MILD cleanser that I recommend it to some other people with acne. It is so MILD that sometimes when you are in hurry, just pour some on the cotton ball and wipe it on your face and you are ready to go. You don't have to rinse it as its so mild that it just wouldn't harm your skin. Anyhow, if you are not in hurry, apply in on your face, massage a little bit, then flush away with water.

About the back acne. Okie, since you mentioned that you have been LONG being patient for that, then perhaps you could go for some skin lightening stuffs, go for some shower which contains skin whitenning properties. Such as Kojic Acid( but its hard to get in M'sia, cos expensive), lactic acid( milk based shower cream such as J&J), Tocopheryl Acetate (vitamin E), Ascorbyl Palmitate (vitamin C/antioxidant) and etcetra. Say NO to Hydroquinone because it will cause side effect to your kidney.

Regarding mask, there's two kind of mask in the market. Hisatmitsu comes out with the revolutionary tear and wear mask, but this kind of mask would not nourish your skin as the conventional mask will do. I am using SK-II currently but I don't really have a brand to recommend it to you because last time Neutrogena came out with a good acne mask but they stop producing already. You could find it and send the name and hyperlink for me, perhaps I can help you to have a look on it.

I tried to use natural path whitening, but can't help le..
For J&J i haven't try b4. But with this kind of whitening shower gel really can help to ligthen the marks?? Now, after i bath, i apply toner on my back. Then i will apply the nivea nite whitening lotion on my back (for a bit only coz scare oily), but dunno like this will works or not. Or can i apply those whitening product use for face and apply on my back? Which whitening product is good that you can recommend??
what can is get those product u mention, Tocopheryl Acetate(vit E), Ascorbyl Palmitate ?? It is 1 of the ingredients in the products??

Jinyee...since u very know about acne treatment, y dont u sell to us some drugs that we cant get it from guardian, such tetracycline, etc

This post has been edited by dya_ungu: Jul 21 2006, 10:07 AM

im using oxy 10% oni apply at acne spot..
last 2 month i use ponds,currently just start use Cetaphil..i didnt use any toner and mosturizer la..
i dun take proper meal coz my daily routine very messy ..hmmm but i did drink alot of water ,2 liter per day..
so SAD!..after came Kl for study, my skin condition getting horrible..
back home oso not like this ler....
this few days,ance keep on pop out....

dya_ungu,

I can't sell those drugs for you even if I could get it because selling those not OTC drugs is against the law. Its ok if you are alright after you take those pills but what if you are not, then probably you will sue me. Anyway, in Malaysia, tetracycline, doxycycline, monocycline, accutane and etc are all prescribed drug, so you need to get to doctors, dermatologists or physicians in order to get those drugs. Its just same as viagra


rainwen,

Ponds did leave residue on skin. Cetaphil is good, keep on using it and you may see result within 1.5months or more, depends on your skin's tendency whether it is able to adapt to those cleanser fast or slow. OXY 10% is too harsh for your skin. It contains Benzoyl Peroxide ( you should know that, if not, look at the ingredient of MXY), which it tends to dry out your skin. So, basically 2.5% is okie already if you use it daily to prevent new acne from forming. 5% one is considered strong too. Anyway, in M'sia market, you could find one brand providing 2.5% of BP, its NEUTROGENA ON-THE-SPOT. You may find it at typical drugstore.

Diet did affect partially. Anyway, keep on balance diet is important. When I was young, the old people tends to tell us to eat more vege so that we wouldn't get acne easily. They are not completely wrong because acne is caused because your skin is too acidic. Vege is alkaline, while meat is acidic. Anyway, a friend of mine, she is completely carnivor, ( honestly NO vege, everytime chicken, mutton, fish, cuttlefish, pork, beef.....) but her skin is silky smooth. So, we could not conclude that by eating vege then you wouldn't get acne.

Anyway, keeping balance diet is not meant to prevent acne only, its for your health as well. So, try to get balance diet. Drink a lot of water is a good action. Well done! It helps to keep away bad breathe too!


tomato_gal,

If I were you, I would not apply any toner and cream or lotion on my back. Just leave it and wear cotton clothes so your skin can breathe. Normally it took 2-3years for those marks to diminish. So, be patient. The more thing you apply, the more worst it will be because there's friction between your skin and your clothes.And sweats too...so the skin will feel hard to breathe. For those products with the ingredients that I mentioned about, yup, you are right, its one of the ingredient. When a product is meant for the face, you don't use it on your body and vice versa. This is because the the skin of our face is thinner than the back one. So, concentrated formula will be used for our back while the face version will be a lite version.

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jul 20 2006, 09:38 PM