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post Mar 24 2023, 07:35 AM

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Hi sifu, any 1 heard about vatti? planing get new hood & hob & the sales person very hard sales of this china brand, according to him vatti is among top 3 brand in china, same level with fortile & robam.
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 23 2023, 10:29 AM)
Dear all, I have shortlisted these 2 models. The hood will be boxed up by cabinet.

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Con: easy to knock the head, since I am using induction stove and max recommended distance of hood is 700mm from the stove. 700mm + 850mm (tabletop height) is rather low.

Pros: cheaper with higher airflow, quieter and lower motor wattage, cleaner although traditional look

Sloped:
Con: unsure of its performance as I've never used before.
Will it easily kena oil splash, say when deep frying something?

Pros: less likely to knock on it?
More modern design?

Which one is easier to clean and maintain? Any thoughts? TIA.
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if u r using electric hob, u can make ur table higher 900mm no nd 850mm.

performance wise JQG9009T will be better than EMG9035 because of the design
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post Mar 24 2023, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(Mattrock @ Mar 23 2023, 02:56 PM)
I am planning for a kitchen re-do. Can anyone (esp the brand/store reps) here suggest best combo for a 3k budget and 4k budget? Does not need to be same brand.

My priorities are:
1. hob - 2 burner, high heat and safety cut-off.
2. hood - air flow about 1400m3/hr, not very noisy and looks good as it will be on its own without any wall cabinets at the sides.

I see there are even combos on offer for less than 2k, e.g., Rubine. Are these ok, or to be avoided?

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u can get Livinox Nite + Lotus2b, should b ard 2k budget range. ofcoz if got higher budget around 3k get can get better performance Livinox Rose + lgh-588 (dc motor lower noise level and higher suction power)

up lagi for best Fotile AMG9007i + GAG86210 ard 5k+

For me i consider Livinox ROSE + LGH588 combo is very good performance already

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post Mar 24 2023, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(terrytong99 @ Mar 24 2023, 07:35 AM)
Hi sifu, any 1 heard about vatti? planing get new hood & hob & the sales person very hard sales of this china brand, according to him vatti is among top 3 brand in china, same level with fortile & robam.
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Nd to compare spec, design, price and technology cant just compare brand in general, may b u can share those info here for ppl to comment worth buying or not. However vatti is new in malaysia i think 1yr or less if not mistaken, so sales person must be very hard sell if not cant get sales.

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QUOTE(terrytong99 @ Mar 24 2023, 07:35 AM)
Hi sifu, any 1 heard about vatti? planing get new hood & hob & the sales person very hard sales of this china brand, according to him vatti is among top 3 brand in china, same level with fortile & robam.
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It is not about how good it is and very popular there. The most important thing is if anything wrong with it, can you easily get it serviced. How long the brand will survive here smile.gif
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 23 2023, 10:29 AM)
Dear all, I have shortlisted these 2 models. The hood will be boxed up by cabinet.

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T type:
Con: easy to knock the head, since I am using induction stove and max recommended distance of hood is 700mm from the stove. 700mm + 850mm (tabletop height) is rather low.

Pros: cheaper with higher airflow, quieter and lower motor wattage, cleaner although traditional look

Sloped:
Con: unsure of its performance as I've never used before.
Will it easily kena oil splash, say when deep frying something?

Pros: less likely to knock on it?
More modern design?

Which one is easier to clean and maintain? Any thoughts? TIA.
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Easier to clean or not is a matter of design regardless which type you choose.

I think no matter what type of stove, the height rule probably the same. It is all about how the air flows inside the kitchen. Too far the cooking vapor get carried away before being suck into chimney. The windows too close, the hood is sucking external air but not the cooking vapor.

Noise is related to suction power which is depends on fan type and size. As you can see, the smaller fan makes more noise and bigger one laugh.gif

My hob is both induction and ceramic. I use modular type. So each one is independent. If anything wrong with power supply, I still have other hobs to use biggrin.gif I have been using the slant type hood. Most of the time I use speed 1 (very quiet) and have good suction. The kitchen cabinet is clean and never felt oily due to oil vapor. Well, my hood vents out air, not circulating anyway. Been using this for almost 20 years and extremely satisfied with it.
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 24 2023, 08:25 AM)
Nd to compare spec, design, price and technology cant just compare brand in general, may b u can share those info here for ppl to comment worth buying or not. However vatti is new in malaysia i think 1yr or less if not mistaken, so sales person must be very hard sell if not cant get sales.
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this is the model he recommended to me. currently having promo with RM3399 come with 10yrs motor warranty.


Do you have any recommended, my kitchen size very small 19.65m3, 3.5m(L) x 1.97m(W) x 2.85m(H). 1 week will cook 4-6 days, just normal stir fry. Budget for hood & hob RM4K, better easy maintenance as well.




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post Mar 24 2023, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 24 2023, 08:29 AM)
It is not about how good it is and very popular there. The most important thing is if anything wrong with it, can you easily get it serviced. How long the brand will survive here  smile.gif
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Yes, this is 1 of my concern also as l totally never heard this brand in Malaysia, really worry their after sales service
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QUOTE(terrytong99 @ Mar 24 2023, 08:53 AM)
Yes, this is 1 of my concern also as l totally never heard this brand in Malaysia, really worry their after sales service
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Just go for known establish brand in Malaysia. High end EU brand for kitchen hobs also I heard the service also slow laugh.gif
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Isit this one?
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 24 2023, 08:23 AM)
u can get Livinox Nite + Lotus2b, should b ard 2k budget range. ofcoz if got higher budget around 3k get can get better performance Livinox Rose + lgh-588 (dc motor lower noise level and higher suction power)

up lagi for best Fotile AMG9007i + GAG86210 ard 5k+

For me i consider Livinox ROSE + LGH588 combo is very good performance already
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Bro, wads the diff btw Livinox LEH-3118CS, LEH-3218CS n LEH-3318CS?
As for Livinox Rose, roughly Rm2.8k?
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 24 2023, 08:18 AM)
if u r using electric hob, u can make ur table higher 900mm no nd 850mm.


performance wise JQG9009T will be better than EMG9035 because of the design
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Hmm...why didn't I think about this since induction hob pan/wok position is 50-60mm lower compared to gas stove...

Good point to consider.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 24 2023, 08:43 AM)
Easier to clean or not is a matter of design regardless which type you choose.

I think no matter what type of stove, the height rule probably the same. It is all about how the air flows inside the kitchen. Too far the cooking vapor get carried away before being suck into chimney. The windows too close, the hood is sucking external air but not the cooking vapor.

Noise is related to suction power which is depends on fan type and size. As you can see, the smaller fan makes more noise and bigger one  laugh.gif

My hob is both induction and ceramic. I use modular type. So each one is independent. If anything wrong with power supply, I still have other hobs to use  biggrin.gif  I have been using the slant type hood. Most of the time I use speed 1 (very quiet) and have good suction. The kitchen cabinet is clean and never felt oily due to oil vapor. Well, my hood vents out air, not circulating anyway. Been using this for almost 20 years and extremely satisfied with it.
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Went to HN to try out the sloped type. When operating, a flap will open. Looks like the knocking head risk is also the same.

You installed 2 individual single "burner" hobs? How do you connect the power supply? 13A plug or dedicated circuit?

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QUOTE(terrytong99 @ Mar 24 2023, 08:51 AM)
this is the model he recommended to me. currently having promo with RM3399 come with 10yrs motor warranty.
Do you have any recommended, my kitchen size very small 19.65m3, 3.5m(L) x 1.97m(W) x 2.85m(H). 1 week will cook 4-6 days, just normal stir fry. Budget for hood & hob RM4K, better easy maintenance as well.
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spec looks ok price similar to Fotile but sometimes those suction power in malaysia cannot 100% trust, many brands like to over rate as no guidelines how they measure suction power.

So if u wan more accurate can compare user manual, here are the spec i got from user manual Vatti Vs FOtile

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So, VATTI website claim 2500m3/h vs fotile 1850m3/hr but user manual if compared turbo mode is 1440 vs 1400m3/h
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QUOTE(SIEWBAO @ Mar 24 2023, 10:08 AM)
Bro, wads the diff btw Livinox LEH-3118CS, LEH-3218CS n LEH-3318CS?
As for Livinox Rose, roughly Rm2.8k?
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LEH3318 is regular shinny glass surface and max sharing 2800W

LEH3218cs most expensive becuase using EUROKERA and EGO (german) heating element but also max sharing 2800W

LEH-3118cs is using brushed finish glass so scratches will be less visible, no power sharing, hence u can use max heat for both sides

My CHOICE ---> LEH3118cs
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 24 2023, 11:50 AM)
Hmm...why didn't I think about this since induction hob pan/wok position is 50-60mm lower compared to gas stove...

Good point to consider.
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table top higher better bcoz sink area will b higher also, ezier to was, no nd bend so low
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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 24 2023, 11:54 AM)
Went to HN to try out the sloped type. When operating, a flap will open. Looks like the knocking head risk is also the same.

You installed 2 individual single "burner" hobs? How do you connect the power supply? 13A plug or dedicated circuit?
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Most showroom cabinets are not installed based on actual kitchen height and size, here are some photos in my showroom, i specifically designed my showroom to be same as kitchen height, so these photos are more accurate

still cant decide? Drop by my shop to get a feel of the product before buying

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 24 2023, 11:54 AM)
Went to HN to try out the sloped type. When operating, a flap will open. Looks like the knocking head risk is also the same.

You installed 2 individual single "burner" hobs? How do you connect the power supply? 13A plug or dedicated circuit?
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The modular type normally has 2 burners vertically arrange. I have 1 pair ceramic, 1 pair induction and 1 grill arranged with grill in the middle

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Yes. Each one has its own circuits. By having own circuit I don;t need too big wire gauge but just normal 2.5mm². Each one is under 20A MCB. I pulled it from a DB I installed in kitchen. The cable to DB was pulled from main DB in hall before the main DB switch. So, it is independent.
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 24 2023, 12:38 PM)
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Most showroom cabinets are not installed based on actual kitchen height and size, here are some photos in my showroom, i specifically designed my showroom to be same as kitchen height, so these photos are more accurate

still cant decide? Drop by my shop to get a feel of the product before buying
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weird. i couldnt reply yr msg.
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 24 2023, 12:38 PM)
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Most showroom cabinets are not installed based on actual kitchen height and size, here are some photos in my showroom, i specifically designed my showroom to be same as kitchen height, so these photos are more accurate

still cant decide? Drop by my shop to get a feel of the product before buying
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Thanks for taking the effort to post comparison photos.
Agree with you about non-std height of showroom. This, plus we're wearing shoes make it difficult to gauge.

Is 900mm kitchen tabletop height abnormal? Installer says 850mm is "standard".

Not in KV, so can't drop by to check with you.

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