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mushigen
post Jun 20 2020, 12:32 PM

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Guys, do you know what is wrong if the cooker hood blower:
1. Sometimes can run, sometimes cannot run (but it's becoming increasingly cannot run).
2. Always runs much slower than usual - if it can run.

Brand: Firenzzi. What is the ballpark figure for repair?
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post Feb 24 2023, 08:42 PM

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Dear All,
I saw the installation manual for Fotile's latest induction cooker hob. It says requires 3 ventilation holes at the bottom part of cabinet.
How are these holes normally done? Most kitchen cabinets are fully enclosed.

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post Feb 25 2023, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Feb 25 2023, 01:54 PM)
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if no other appliances under the hob then no nd, do not do drawers under the hob, then u should have sufficient space for ventilation. If u plan to use it for long hours then u can add louver on ur cabinet door for better ventilation
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I see. I missed the "other appliances" part while reading the manual.

Thank you for the tips on how to overcome overheating. Much appreciated.
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post Mar 14 2023, 11:34 AM

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Dear all,
I intend to lay a new 4mm cable from DB for my induction hob.
As for hood, may I know whether it's suitable to tap power from this new cable since the 4mm wire capacity is bigger than what the hob requires (hob requires 3-5kW?) ? I keep reading "induction hob requires dedicated power supply".

The other alternative is to tap from existing twin-SSO, which I try to avoid because need to use oven, etc.

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post Mar 22 2023, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(jenli_84 @ Mar 21 2023, 09:09 AM)
prefer double gas hob side by side instead of front n back.
was 850m really very light cooking wo

is there any cooker hood no need to drill the wall hole for the hose
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Then you need to look for recirculation type.
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post Mar 23 2023, 10:29 AM

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Dear all, I have shortlisted these 2 models. The hood will be boxed up by cabinet.

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T type:
Con: easy to knock the head, since I am using induction stove and max recommended distance of hood is 700mm from the stove. 700mm + 850mm (tabletop height) is rather low.

Pros: cheaper with higher airflow, quieter and lower motor wattage, cleaner although traditional look

Sloped:
Con: unsure of its performance as I've never used before.
Will it easily kena oil splash, say when deep frying something?

Pros: less likely to knock on it?
More modern design?

Which one is easier to clean and maintain? Any thoughts? TIA.
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post Mar 24 2023, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 24 2023, 08:18 AM)
if u r using electric hob, u can make ur table higher 900mm no nd 850mm.


performance wise JQG9009T will be better than EMG9035 because of the design
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Hmm...why didn't I think about this since induction hob pan/wok position is 50-60mm lower compared to gas stove...

Good point to consider.
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post Mar 24 2023, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 24 2023, 08:43 AM)
Easier to clean or not is a matter of design regardless which type you choose.

I think no matter what type of stove, the height rule probably the same. It is all about how the air flows inside the kitchen. Too far the cooking vapor get carried away before being suck into chimney. The windows too close, the hood is sucking external air but not the cooking vapor.

Noise is related to suction power which is depends on fan type and size. As you can see, the smaller fan makes more noise and bigger one  laugh.gif

My hob is both induction and ceramic. I use modular type. So each one is independent. If anything wrong with power supply, I still have other hobs to use  biggrin.gif  I have been using the slant type hood. Most of the time I use speed 1 (very quiet) and have good suction. The kitchen cabinet is clean and never felt oily due to oil vapor. Well, my hood vents out air, not circulating anyway. Been using this for almost 20 years and extremely satisfied with it.
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Went to HN to try out the sloped type. When operating, a flap will open. Looks like the knocking head risk is also the same.

You installed 2 individual single "burner" hobs? How do you connect the power supply? 13A plug or dedicated circuit?

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post Mar 24 2023, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Mar 24 2023, 12:38 PM)
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Most showroom cabinets are not installed based on actual kitchen height and size, here are some photos in my showroom, i specifically designed my showroom to be same as kitchen height, so these photos are more accurate

still cant decide? Drop by my shop to get a feel of the product before buying
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Thanks for taking the effort to post comparison photos.
Agree with you about non-std height of showroom. This, plus we're wearing shoes make it difficult to gauge.

Is 900mm kitchen tabletop height abnormal? Installer says 850mm is "standard".

Not in KV, so can't drop by to check with you.
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post Mar 24 2023, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 24 2023, 12:53 PM)
The modular type normally has 2 burners vertically arrange. I have 1 pair ceramic, 1 pair induction and 1 grill arranged with grill in the middle

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Yes. Each one has its own circuits. By having own circuit I don;t need too big wire gauge but just normal 2.5mm². Each one is under 20A MCB. I pulled it from a DB I installed in kitchen. The cable to DB was pulled from main DB in hall before the main DB switch. So, it is independent.
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Ah, I see what you mean. That means you have a big kitchen.

2.5mm² cukup kah? I always thought minimum (for peace of mind) is 4mm².

Great idea to sub a DB to kitchen. I didn't think of this, instead I pulled a 6mm² set to the stove, but maybe it's overkill for my small kitchen.
What's the thickness of the wire you used to connect the kitchen DB from main DB? That sub-DB cukup for how many amps?
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post Mar 24 2023, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 24 2023, 02:54 PM)
My bad... it is 4mm². Normal for socket.

The cable is the same size as the cable from TNB pole to the house. JUst tap is before the 63A main DB switch.

During renovation time the cable was put under concrete, go up through a riser, laid across ceiling, down through another riser at the back of the house, under concrete again and up to the kitchen DB.All inside a white PVC. The riser actually is for water piping  shakehead.gif

Done this with my friend. Cost me just about 1k perhaps. Long time already. If contractor probably 10x the cost  laugh.gif

My house is still single phase and it has been almost 20 years.
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Thinking back, I should have pulled a 10mm² cable to a sub-DB in kitchen (tap off after main DB switch). Easier to tap for future installation/addition in kitchen, instead of having to pull all the way from msin DB again.

And that's how budget overrun happens.

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post Apr 13 2023, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(cheekiat95 @ Apr 11 2023, 10:02 AM)
Hi, my condo will be VP by mid of 2024. I have surveyed and planning to get Fotile AMG9007i and GAG86210 combo for my kitchen. I might get them this year if the price is attractive during year end sales or some other promotions. Same goes to other electrical appliances (especially the built in one like oven, microwave, dishwasher and refrigerator). The reason of doing so are:
1. Getting at a cheaper price
2. Can start paying earlier with monthly instalment
3. Secure the appliances and get the dimensions ready for my ID to design and build kitchen cabinet

May I know if you shop is able to do booking and deliver later like my scenario above? Thanks.
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I'm currently in the same dilemma, except I'm not sure when I can move in to the new house even though I have received VP.

As TS said, by the time we're ready to move in, the model may become old. Especially in my case where I'm buying an induction hob.

No comment on points 1 and 2, but for point 3, you don't need that long lead time to provide the information to your kitchen cabinet contractor. You can probably start shortlisting the appliances once your place is near to VP handover.

Also, when you get keys to the house, you'll want to check for defects first before starting any work.

Btw, good choice on amg9007i. Looks nice and doesn't pose much risk of knocking into it.

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post Jul 12 2023, 10:51 AM

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Dear all,

For Fotile AMG9007i (refer to photo), recommended installation height is 285mm - 325mm from the surface of the hob. I'm using induction hob so the 50mm pan support height is not required. Installer suggests 300mm but I remember someone here said to go for max allowable. I prefer max allowable to avoid any boiling liquid/oil splashing (imagine the frying process when cooking sambal, for example).
Higher height is also good if I should switch to gas hob in future.

Q1) should I go for 300mm as suggested by installer, or 325mm (my preference)?

Q2) any harm if I go even higher, say 350mm? I understand the higher the hood, the less it smoke it can capture.

Thank you.

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post Jul 13 2023, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 12 2023, 03:53 PM)
1) If u r using induction hob, u can consider to make ur table top higher too, standard 850 to 900mm to offset the wok support height

2) For hood installation, i would prefer max height in case u got any tall pots. so 325mm
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Tall pots is also my consideration too. Thanks for your input.
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post Sep 11 2023, 10:06 AM

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Dear all, for those "holiday home", is there any risk of having cockroaches or lizards making their way and dying inside the exhaust chute of kitchen hood?

Dead lizards, especially big ones really stink. Is it advisable to put a additional layer of finer mesh over the existing "grill" on the outlet? I understand it creates a backpressure.

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post Dec 2 2023, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(atilla @ Dec 2 2023, 10:15 PM)
I had the same thought but I think the chances are very rare because there is normally a mesh/filter of some sort blocking the entry of insects to the fan and other parts so there is nothing for them to eat. And when I opened my very old style hood to clean, there were no signs of dead bugs or droppings which I was expecting. But if you are still worried about it, there are kitchen vent covers which have a mesh that can prevent lizards and adult roaches from going in. I bought one online but haven't installed yet.
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I am worried lizards will enter, then got trapped inside the "maze" - it can't find its way out - and dies inside.

Hmm, I didn't think of putting a cover over the vent when leaving the house vacant for a stretch. Thanks for the idea.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Sep 6 2024, 05:30 PM)
Hi,

(1) Who will do the installation, the shop or the cabinet maker or need to hire a separate installer? I asked 2 shops and both said they just sell, no installation.

(2) Can the hood be fixed on a tiled wall?

(3) What is the required amp for hood and induction hob?

(4) Planning to get below. Any comment?

Hood - RCH Monza X-BL
Hob - induction RIH Rekka 44-BL

Requirement for hood is flat top, above 1500 suction, less noise and easy to clean. I think Fotile is out budget. Any similar combo/non-combo from Livinox, Midea or Elba sub 2.5K?

TQ
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Based on my own experience, so don't take it as the holy grail.

1) shop doesn't provide installation but they can recommend installer.
You can also request/nego for cabinet maker to install (i think this is better).

2) yes.

3) for your hob, it says max 2.0 + 2.2kW, so a 20A should be sufficient. My Teka has total 4.6kW and the user manual says it only needs 15 or 16A mcb iirc. Mine comes with a 15A plug. 4mm² wires should be more than enough. I was too kiasu and ran a 6mm² wiring.

Hood uses very little power, so they normally tap from your 13A sso per advice from my electrician.

4) no idea.

Note: if I am redoing my kitchen, I'd run separate cables from main DB and set up another DB in the kitchen. Makes things easier if you want to add new 13A SSOs without having to limit electricity loading on the existing SSO circuit (using oven, or clothes dryer for example, if the dryer is using the existing shared circuit).


 

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