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 How to choose a good Cooker Hoods & Gas Hobs ?, Kitchen appliances hood / hob / oven

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post Jun 17 2014, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 17 2014, 10:39 AM)
Sub con, even Main con all cannot give 100% trust la, must have backup plan, and put in buffer. If you need your house ready by May, tell them you need it by March. If you move in on 21st, tell them you move in 10th even to the seller be it BH or someone else. No doubt BH give you ASSURANCE. Alternative DIY and install your own, save money and gain experience like I do. Always remember, we are dealing with human (especially Malaysian with the rubber band habit)
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post Jun 17 2014, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jun 17 2014, 03:29 PM)
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I always tell the contractor /installer to call me the day before appointment to confirm.

If he don't call I will call him.

If no confirmation consider appointment is off. I won't wait. Better he suffer for his inefficiency, not me.
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post Jun 17 2014, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Fazab @ Jun 17 2014, 04:24 PM)
I always tell the contractor /installer to call me the day before appointment to confirm.

If he don't call I will call him.

If no confirmation consider appointment is off.  I won't wait. Better he suffer for his inefficiency, not me.
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If he off, he only loose one contract from you, but your entire schedule may get screw. Imagine you plan move in on Sat, and expect contractor to come fix your A/C on Wed, painter going to come Thurs to finish up the work after a/c installed. Suddenly A/C contractor "no show", and ok he don't get the job. But who going to do your job?
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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 17 2014, 04:57 PM)
If he off, he only loose one contract from you, but your entire schedule may get screw. Imagine you plan move in on Sat, and expect contractor to come fix your A/C on Wed, painter going to come Thurs to finish up the work after a/c installed. Suddenly A/C contractor "no show", and ok he don't get the job. But who going to do your job?
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This is in addition to a buffer period AND the phone number of a backup contractor (get 3 quotations -mah).

Also try not to schedule tasks back-to -back. Guaranteed something or someone will screw you up.

World cup some more, sure many people cannot wake up.

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post Jun 18 2014, 12:07 AM

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I m terribly sorry bro, this installer has been installing our hoods for several years and had been reliable until recently World Cup. I already warned him not to be late this time and will remind him again on thursday and friday morning.
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jun 18 2014, 12:07 AM)
I m terribly sorry bro, this installer has been installing our hoods for several years and had been reliable until recently World Cup. I already warned him not to be late this time and will remind him again on thursday and friday morning.
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QUOTE(Jcyteh @ Jun 11 2014, 12:49 PM)
Normally the built-in oven uses 13 A or 15 A plug?  Is it safe to use 13 A plug if 15 A is required?
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Play safe, ready 15amp. i heard some of them said that 13amp can use also but cant cook for long... if cook dish more than 1 or 2hrs, thats a possibility electric will trip.. wink.gif
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post Jun 18 2014, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jun 18 2014, 12:07 AM)
I m terribly sorry bro, this installer has been installing our hoods for several years and had been reliable until recently World Cup. I already warned him not to be late this time and will remind him again on thursday and friday morning.
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If world cup is the reason, is better to ditch them. That is unreliable.
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Any comments on the Fotile V hood? Specifically, how does the performance compare to the fotile hood with air curtain?

This post has been edited by azleena: Jun 18 2014, 05:27 PM
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post Jun 19 2014, 09:06 AM

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I hate how there is a glass that opens out on the Fotile V hood. Somebody might bang their head on it
For that kind of price, I will get the more elegant Teka DVL 90

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post Jun 19 2014, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 19 2014, 09:06 AM)
I hate how there is a glass that opens out on the Fotile V hood. Somebody might bang their head on it
For that kind of price, I will get the more elegant Teka DVL 90
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One product can't fit all, unlike rice one type of rice 100s type of people eat. As for me, I won't use such a long pot to make soup.
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post Jun 19 2014, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(azleena @ Jun 18 2014, 03:43 PM)
Any comments on the Fotile V hood? Specifically, how does the performance compare to the fotile hood with air curtain?
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Hi azleena,

Thanks for your enquiry about FOTILE hoods.

Also thanks for your question that you did post in this thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=68760435 rclxms.gif

Wow! It does require a lengthy explanation on this 2 series of hood for its features (capability), performance, built-up, product value and your ACTUAL REQUIREMENT for a cooker hood in your kitchen. cool2.gif

My best suggestion to you is to help yourself WALK-INTO ANY of FOTILE DEALER showroom to check into this 2 hoods. To be franked, ALL FOTILE COOKER HOODS was engineered and built with its different conceptual design and capabilities to suit for each individual kitchen requirement. For sure all FOTILE hoods is JUST ENOUGH to perform in any kitchen for cooking needs. As I always asked all my clients to either go to FOTILE FLAGSHIP SHOWROOM in Solaris Dutamas or their FOTILE main office to experience the products. You will get UNBIASED opinion and suggestion. icon_rolleyes.gif

Alright. Come back to your very general question on the performance of JQG9009 compare to the group: EH10BQ/CHS9006W/CHS9007W. If you based on FOTILE catalog and compare the specification of these models, I would say EH10BQ/CHS9006W/CHS9007W models have the extra more feature for its 3D Ionised Air Curtain. For the best price and performance of every model in FOTILE range of cooker hoods, EH10BQ is consider ALL-ROUNDED performance cooker hood.

Fast and simple answer to your question above. I would say you may consider with the additional extra of RM1,000++ (from FOTILE package deal), the FOTILE JQG9009 (aka FOTILE-V) will be your right choice if you are looking for FOTILE'S NEW CONCEPTUAL HOOD. Again, somehow I have tested and experienced it with our clients' installed JQG9009 houses that this JQG9009 have had A LITTLE BIT of STRONG pressure AIR-FLOW at the outlet (end-cap outside the house), with the standard 8 feets length ducting distance. brows.gif

Azleena, at the moment; you may search thru YOUTUBE for the 3D Ionise Air Curtain and JQG9009 video to see how they performance. icon_idea.gif

For a simply features explanation (if you have time to read this), please check the below:-


JQG9009 (aka FOTILE-V)

Capabilities:
1) Design to LOCKS "airborne grease" and LEADS it from the chamber entrance to the internal exhaust system in "ONE STRAIGHT LINE" with ZERO to minimal obstruction. (Meaning from the point of the hob to the chamber entrance to the fan extractor to the exhaust outlet is in-one-vertical-straigt-line with minimal obstruction. With this conceptual design, the hood was position at the "RIGHT" height distance from the hob (smoke generator) at 580mm apart before the smoke start to spread, all the smoke & grease will be guided to the chamber entrance. FOTILE has study that the OPTIMAL airborne grease CONTROL Zone is located precisely at 580mm above the kitchen hob. JQG9009 is designed and engineered to lock the airborne grease COMPLETELY before smoke start to spreads.)

2) Wider Chamber Entrance to capture oil and airborne grease efficiently. (Meaning that this wide design make the suction effectively and evenly capturing smoke at every corner within the 90cm-wide chamber entrance. Hence allow JGQ9009 to capture smoke FAST and QUICKLY).

3) The window opening, we called it BUFFER PLATE was design at 110-degree opening to helps forms air compression to prevent airborne grease from escaping. The buffer plate was designed with a 13cm-wide, helps to prevents oil and smoke from coming into contact with the user. (Meaning that when the hood is running, the buffer plate will pressurises airborne grease and really preventing the smoke from spreading. Again the buffer plate create a buffer between the user and the airborne grease, which prevent the user from coming into the contact with the airborne grease. Also when the hood is shut-off the plate buffer will close the chamber entrance and this will prevents backflow of airborne grease.)

4) JQG9009 also engineered with automatic TURBO system to increase the extraction power to increase the pressure in the exhaust up to 350Pa when it detects that the exhaust is low in pressure. (Meaning once it sense the resistance in suction, the turbo mode will be activated to ensure that the exhaust is able to release airborne grease smoothly and effectively.)



EH10BQ/CHS9006W
with 3D Ionized Air Curtain.

Capabilities:
1) Generates an invisible wall in the smoke spread zone, which can prevent smoke escape and ensure smoke return to negative pressure zone until it is directed into the filter system. (Just considered the invisible Air Curtain as a smoke guard in preventing smoke from escaping).

2) It generates anion for air purification to keep the surrounding air refreshing. (To clean the air a little bit).

3) Using the patented clean & clear filter buffer that make use of the aerodynamics theory to ensure the hood achieves highly efficient oil filtration and odor reduction. (Meaning the filter is easy to clean and maintains and provide high efficient suction).

4) The hood canopy with deep smoke collection chamber design, which produce large negative pressure area to collects smoke rapidly and avoiding smoke from escaping. (Meaning the large wide and deep canopy is able to smoothly collecting and guide smoke to flow into the filter system, hence smoke find no way to be escaped).

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QUOTE(azleena @ Jun 19 2014, 08:32 AM)
Can't make it to kepong at the moment... Maybe later when things settle down. You talked about the hob, but didn't mention if the new hood is more effective than the old?
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Well after using it twice, in fact JQG 9009 is better not just in terms of suction power but in other aspect such as odor, heat reduction and etc. However, the noise level is slightly higher but still acceptable, still quieter than CTS9004. TO know more you need to drop by our showroom as it is difficult to explain everything here bcoz it will be kinda lengthy and also there are things that could not be captured through camera such as odor and cooking experience which my mom can later share with u and other forumers who are interested when u drop by.

What i can say is, money well invested smile.gif

QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 19 2014, 09:06 AM)
I hate how there is a glass that opens out on the Fotile V hood. Somebody might bang their head on it
For that kind of price, I will get the more elegant Teka DVL 90
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This is what most customers are worried as well bt after using it twice my mom didnt have this problem. Well if compared to a normal Chimney hood, the probability of some1 banging it would b higher. The baffle plate is to prevent airborne grease from spreading and also to cover up the filter after cooking, so u cant c your dirty and yellowish filter. This is one important feature that makes the hood so effective.

However, if you are using a tall pot like mine and using a long ladle , the baffle plate could b blocking the ladle, just need to b careful or close the plate.

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QUOTE(ubzteam.bayu @ Jun 19 2014, 01:17 PM)
Hi azleena,

Thanks for your enquiry about FOTILE hoods.



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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jun 19 2014, 09:25 PM)
Well after using it twice, in fact JQG 9009 is better not just in terms of suction power but in other aspect such as odor, heat reduction and etc. However, the noise level is slightly higher but still acceptable, still quieter than CTS9004. TO know more you need to drop by our showroom as it is difficult to explain everything here bcoz it will be kinda lengthy and also there are things that could not be captured through camera such as odor and cooking experience which my mom can later share with u and other forumers who are interested when u drop by.

Thanks so much UBZTEAM and Zheilwane for the replies!

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post Jun 20 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(azleena @ Jun 20 2014, 06:44 AM)
Thanks so much UBZTEAM and Zheilwane for the replies!
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No problem. You're most welcome rclxms.gif

At your convenient, from Mon-Sat you can just visit our Kota Damansara outlet to ask on "HOW-TO" for the JQG9009 to blend into your kitchen or any related matter regards to kitchen. brows.gif

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QUOTE(ubzteam.bayu @ Jun 20 2014, 11:57 AM)
No problem. You're most welcome  rclxms.gif

At your convenient, from Mon-Sat you can just visit our Kota Damansara outlet to ask on "HOW-TO" for the JQG9009 to blend into your kitchen or any related matter regards to kitchen.  brows.gif

You may just log-into and LIKE our FB at facebook.com/URBANEZ for better information.

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my area for hob is only 70cm... which hob is suitable?

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QUOTE(storm04 @ Jun 20 2014, 09:43 PM)
my area for hob is only 70cm... which hob is suitable?
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70cm is kinda small, my smallest is rubine lotta but 71cm.
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sorry but I am still not convince about this Fotile V hood design.

1. if you are tall, the glass baffle might obstruct your view

2. if you are short, you might hit your head on the glass baffle

3. the hood is too low, all the oil, kicap, sauce, etc may end up on the glass surface and you will have to clean it after every cooking session For normal Chimney hood, it is set high, no sauce or bits of food can travel that high meaning less mess to clean up

4. the opening of the baffle is too small, I think this is making it noisy as air rushes through it.

5. the opening of the filter holes are too big so all the oil droplets will land inside the motor assembly and housing.

I am curious to learn how the 3D curtain thing works. Is there a bunch of electrodes along the rim to generate anion as claimed?




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QUOTE(idoblu @ Jun 20 2014, 10:53 PM)
sorry but I am still not convince about this Fotile V hood design.

1. if you are tall, the glass baffle might obstruct your view

2. if you are short, you might hit your head on the glass baffle

3. the hood is too low, all the oil, kicap, sauce, etc may end up on the glass surface and you will have to clean it after every cooking session For normal Chimney hood, it is set high, no sauce or bits of food can travel that high meaning less mess to clean up

4. the opening of the baffle is too small, I think this is making it noisy as air rushes through it.

5. the opening of the filter holes are too big so all the oil droplets will land inside the motor assembly and housing.

I am curious to learn how the 3D curtain thing works. Is there a bunch of electrodes along the rim to generate anion as claimed?
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