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post Jan 6 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 6 2014, 01:31 PM)
2 bottle of SP3 kah or XP3. Now XP3 very hard to find. Maybe discontinued. Now car got used to SP3 since my last change over 5K mileage ago. Initially feel a bit draggy and more obvious gear change.

For me, XP3 will make gear changing less noticeable but SP3 still is the next best ATF (or only ATF guaranteed no issue. Don't want try others and take risk of damaging gear box).
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what color is the XP3 fluid? I rmb saw somewhere stated it was blue?
but proton sp3 is red, right?
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 6 2014, 01:31 PM)
2 bottle of SP3 kah or XP3. Now XP3 very hard to find. Maybe discontinued. Now car got used to SP3 since my last change over 5K mileage ago. Initially feel a bit draggy and more obvious gear change.

For me, XP3 will make gear changing less noticeable but SP3 still is the next best ATF (or only ATF guaranteed no issue. Don't want try others and take risk of damaging gear box).
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bought 2 bottle proton sp3.
These 2 bottle going to use on changing power steering oil.

They said damn good, then i come back here ask. sweat.gif
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post Jan 6 2014, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 6 2014, 05:37 PM)
what color is the XP3 fluid? I rmb saw somewhere stated it was blue?
but proton sp3 is red, right?
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Petronas XP3 color is red.

not sure about proton oil.
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post Jan 6 2014, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(waiket @ Jan 4 2014, 09:35 PM)
check out the manual to understand the mechanism, its a clip.. slightly push to left or right to unlock it...
unlock is easy, but when install it.. my finger like tangle, not enuf space.
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Thanks, still coudn't take out the hook.

I end up go to some accessories shop, paid RM10 and installed nicely sad.gif
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post Jan 6 2014, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Jan 6 2014, 06:06 PM)
Petronas XP3 color is red.

not sure about proton oil.
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sp 3 also red in color...

any 1 here know where i can get the PE radio casing?
cause i changing mine radio to single din.
need change the casing as well.
thanks
voscar
post Jan 6 2014, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(punkLOL @ Jan 6 2014, 06:06 PM)
Petronas XP3 color is red.

not sure about proton oil.
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oh, found out the blue fluid is the Petronas XP, I guess this is before XP3!
http://www.mymesra.com.my/?ch=mm_2011&pg=p...pl=2011_article

MyMesra long time did not update their website...

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post Jan 6 2014, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jan 6 2014, 11:40 AM)
Preve ANCAP of course...if budget allows
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Right now Preve is top of the list but just a few more "research' needs to be done..

The overall running cost compare to Persona... of course it is bound to be higher, higher segment and more comfortable but just of course to make sure the rm25k extra does justify of the overall value you received. 1 more thing Persona is in my mind because it is a matured model all issues and workarounds are known of as of today.

Hmmm... wondering how is the Preve EXEC FC vs the Persona's too...

1 being heavier but with CVT, 1 being lighter but without CVT...

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post Jan 7 2014, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Jan 6 2014, 10:57 PM)
Hmmm... wondering how is the Preve EXEC FC vs the Persona's too...
1 being heavier but with CVT, 1 being lighter but without CVT...
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can summon mengsuan
he have preve and persona.
u can look up at preve thread.

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 6 2014, 09:12 AM)
I only have approximation for mixed city and highway as my daily travel is from Puchong to KL, a location with lots of jam sometimes. Persona is about 8L/100KM, Preve is about 9L-10L/100KM. Preve has instant fuel consumption meter, at highway cruising about 80km/h, it can score very well about 5-6L/100KM.

Preve is a heavier car, C-segment compared to Persona's B segment, gives greater comfort and has greater engine power, slightly higher fuel consumption is certain.
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Cavino
post Jan 7 2014, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Jan 6 2014, 09:57 PM)
Right now Preve is top of the list but just a few more "research' needs to be done..

The overall running cost compare to Persona... of course it is bound to be higher, higher segment and more comfortable but just of course to make sure the rm25k extra does justify of the overall value you received. 1 more thing Persona is in my mind because it is a matured model all issues and workarounds are known of as of today.

Hmmm... wondering how is the Preve EXEC FC vs the Persona's too...

1 being heavier but with CVT, 1 being lighter but without CVT...
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IMO, if you got the dough, Preve is the way to go especially the one with CVT for better FC efficiency.

Why buy a 6 year old model (although got IAFM and minor upgrade along the way)? While PE is good enuf for a 2 person driving, long term wise, Preve bigger space will make more sense. Most ppl only go for PE if they don't have enuf budget for Preve Exec.

I too like a matured model but not when its practically at its end of life (if you look at it, PE is going the way for wira, keep facelift coz the need to fill in the gap in segments). PE IS a good car for its price albeit not FC friendly.

One think I really hated abt Preve is the boot space where the car wheel arc intruding greatly into the middle width of the boot. Initially I tot that's a bad design as it is the only car where the wheel arcs eat up so much space it practically pigeon hole the width of the boot (could not seat my daughter's portable organ flat horizontally, even PE can do that) but in turns out not a bad design but a cost cutting one where the current wheel arc is much cheaper than the usually one (at least that's what I read somewhere from a formal article...not forum).l

This post has been edited by Cavino: Jan 7 2014, 08:54 AM
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post Jan 7 2014, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Jan 6 2014, 09:57 PM)
Right now Preve is top of the list but just a few more "research' needs to be done..

The overall running cost compare to Persona... of course it is bound to be higher, higher segment and more comfortable but just of course to make sure the rm25k extra does justify of the overall value you received. 1 more thing Persona is in my mind because it is a matured model all issues and workarounds are known of as of today.

Hmmm... wondering how is the Preve EXEC FC vs the Persona's too...

1 being heavier but with CVT, 1 being lighter but without CVT...
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What's higher cost on Preve CFE is fuel and maintenance. Preve Exec (without turbo) has better fuel efficiency all round, although the sheer driving fun is not there. I've seen people posting 700KM per tank with Preve Exec, but you cannot achieve that with Preve CFE. Especially with CFE's lower compression engine (as requirement for turbo engine with ordinary RON95 fuel), fuel consumption suffers at traffic as efficiency is reduced.

Persona being lighter swifter, uses less fuel than Preve CFE and takes corner like a boss. Preve handling is good too but just feels heavier with the stiffer than average feeling (feeling approximation when cornering at 130-140km/h). Both does cruising near 170KM/h like a boss, with Preve leading better in comfort.

Preve wins hands down in safety. The airbag, braking system and ESC. Too good.
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post Jan 7 2014, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 7 2014, 10:17 AM)
What's higher cost on Preve CFE is fuel and maintenance. Preve Exec (without turbo) has better fuel efficiency all round, although the sheer driving fun is not there. I've seen people posting 700KM per tank with Preve Exec, but you cannot achieve that with Preve CFE. Especially with CFE's lower compression engine (as requirement for turbo engine with ordinary RON95 fuel), fuel consumption suffers at traffic as efficiency is reduced.

Persona being lighter swifter, uses less fuel than Preve CFE and takes corner like a boss. Preve handling is good too but just feels heavier with the stiffer than average feeling (feeling approximation when cornering at 130-140km/h). Both does cruising near 170KM/h like a boss, with Preve leading better in comfort.

Preve wins hands down in safety. The airbag, braking system and ESC. Too good.
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I actually most worried is Preve EXEC would suffer in day-to-day city driving.

Being a heavy machine, its weight-to-power ratio does not look on the good side from how I look at it so I thought CFE's FC should be around the same or could be slightly better although it's a turbocharged engine.

Look like I am wrong here.

How about Preve EXEC vs PE's in term of FC?

Preve Exec is priced at RM62K which is actually pretty worth considering it has all those safety features but I wouldn't want to suffer with a superb underpowered car given its weight that at the same time may result in higher fuel consumption.

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post Jan 7 2014, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 7 2014, 10:17 AM)
What's higher cost on Preve CFE is fuel and maintenance. Preve Exec (without turbo) has better fuel efficiency all round, although the sheer driving fun is not there. I've seen people posting 700KM per tank with Preve Exec, but you cannot achieve that with Preve CFE. Especially with CFE's lower compression engine (as requirement for turbo engine with ordinary RON95 fuel), fuel consumption suffers at traffic as efficiency is reduced.
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Does that means CFE boosted torque actually increased FC at heavy traffic vs the iafm version?

What abt low end pickup at heavy traffic, which is better, iafm or CFE?
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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 7 2014, 04:47 PM)
Does that means CFE boosted torque actually increased FC at heavy traffic vs the iafm version?

What abt low end pickup at heavy traffic, which is better, iafm or CFE?
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If the driver keep entering boost, FC will suffer. FC will be okay for occasional 1-2 seconds boost to keep the momentum at slopes, best is that the car is driven without boosting it. Still, it depends on right foot. If NA engine is driven without loading it near 100%, the FC will be good too.

I haven't tried IAFM version. Start stop traffic for heavy Preve is not nice to drive but I have gotten use of it. I move off like a sluggish snail and slowly gain momentum.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 7 2014, 04:55 PM)
If the driver keep entering boost, FC will suffer. FC will be okay for occasional 1-2 seconds boost to keep the momentum at slopes, best is that the car is driven without boosting it. Still, it depends on right foot. If NA engine is driven without loading it near 100%, the FC will be good too.

I haven't tried IAFM version. Start stop traffic for heavy Preve is not nice to drive but I have gotten use of it. I move off like a sluggish snail and slowly gain momentum.
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If like that, I can imagine IAFM version faring better than CFE but with the increased weight fare worst than PE.

Stock PE is already pretty bad at start stop traffic condition....

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Jan 7 2014, 05:44 PM)
If like that, I can imagine IAFM version faring better than CFE but with the increased weight fare worst than PE.

Stock PE is already pretty bad at start stop traffic condition....
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At least Preve IAFM can put LCP inside. brows.gif
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Jan 7 2014, 04:55 PM)
If the driver keep entering boost, FC will suffer. FC will be okay for occasional 1-2 seconds boost to keep the momentum at slopes, best is that the car is driven without boosting it. Still, it depends on right foot. If NA engine is driven without loading it near 100%, the FC will be good too.

I haven't tried IAFM version. Start stop traffic for heavy Preve is not nice to drive but I have gotten use of it. I move off like a sluggish snail and slowly gain momentum.
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when wanna convert to NGV?
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post Jan 7 2014, 06:23 PM

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9L-10L/100km is not bad at all, better than what I expect of the Preve.

My Popiah does almost the same most of the time. But maybe if I drive Preve the figure would be much worse tongue.gif

My friend's new Accord 2.0 also yield similiar FC with ECO mode on all the time.
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To me, that FC is very acceptable. Often there is too much hypothetical values on internet, quoting too-good-to-be-true FC for godlike Myvi and Vios
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Hello fellow Persona owners smile.gif

Just incase if anyone is interested, am selling off my disc brakes hahhaa !

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3092668

Thank you !
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QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Jan 6 2014, 01:04 PM)
Of what? W-40 FS oil? Manyak brand ada.
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manyak meh? i means the usual satria SC use la. for proton cars that still in warranty. tongue.gif

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