Pantang? Haha this one i am not really sure. I guess open sea less pantang kot

full name is call Shakespeare ugly stik tiger rod
this model been in the market for almost 30 years

getting a solid reputation of unbreakable fishing rod
is famous to use as a bottom fishing rod

I would recommend you try getting
make in USA ( Very RARE) but not the make in china


Old Model look



New model look






usually is the boatman that got pantang be sure always ask first

Is there any difference in term of performance and durability between both of them? USA made going around 500 for new old stock but china one only around 300++.

the difference is in the action and sensitivity , by holding on hand you wont notice it

but when fish nibbling on the bait then you can see the rod action and sensitivity



pls do keep in mind that the reason why the rod is unbreakable is due to it unique
fiberglass construction , and is also the reason when compare to carbon rod it will lose
in terms of sensitivity

u shd adv location n depth.
eg, fishing at straits of melaka uses heavy weights cos water rushing into narrow 'longkang'. if go far out, u wl nd a very big reel or 2 speed reel. and ugly stick rod not recommended cos too 'soft' to handle the weights.

jig on melaka straits especially klang need 180gm minimum on usual basis. 200,230,250 is standard la. current so strong.

if u go further down nearer to indon water then u need 250,280,300.
if u go further up north to jarak/sembilan, then need 150,180,200.

unless tekong bring u 10m depth near carey island then u 120gm enuf liao.

u go south cina sea that side like rompin, pekan, mersing, seidili , use 40-80gm also nice liao. not deep and calmer waters unless u near monsoon season. on usual time like march, april, then best lor, use 40-80gm micro jig also can up many tengiri .

just got some horrible news.

Natural Exotic Rawang is closing down its operations and moving to its new premise in Behrang, Tanjung Malim. Sigh........ gotta drive so far just to test gear.


We will be moving to Behrang 2020, Tanjong Malim,Perak and our current operation will be stop at 13.03.2017, 8:00am.
We will update our new operation date, charges, rule & regulations soon.
我们即将搬迁......Behrang 2020,Tg. Malim.
我们万绕钓鱼场即将关闭，暂停营业于13.03.2017，早上8时。
一切条规，收费和营业时间会另外再通知大家。
Natural fishing pond akan tutup berniaga pada masa 13.03.2017, pukul 8 pagi.
Peraturan, pembayaran dan tarikh mula berniaga akan diumumkan kemudian.


more info u can get from here

https://www.facebook.com/NEFFP/

ugly stick is soft

but not ugly stick tiger .......
with the correct lb rod , it can handle any weight you throw at it.....

Wow seem like u know a lot about jigging. Any open trip in the near future? I have jigging gear but don't have guru to learn with. Also now looking forward for my 1st jigging licence. Trial and error before but no result.


I second this

my bad then. I have one ugly stick bought more than 10 yrs back. never did like d parabolic action cos I use 1.5kgs weight most of the time n sometimes 80mtrs n abv depth. not sensitive enough in deep waters n it doesnt set d hook on the fish as gd as faster actions rods in deep water. kinda difficult to fight against a grouper fm swimming back to its hole during its 1st run after hook sets.

got alot of type jigging

slow jigging , fast jigging , light jigging , micro jigging

all use different type of gear

Guys any comments on okuma reels? Got intro ajiking rodand okuma reel for deep sea

which model ?

Sorry my bad. Reel for okuma is cedros. For ajiking rod it is pro italy pop

you planning to use this setup as a bottom or popping ?????

pro italy pop is a popping rod , i seen plenty of people use it for casting but not for bottom

for the reel okuma was never famous for it spinning reel and i never
own 1 before cant tell the performance but for their round reel is famous

I tell the guy i plan bottom tho. He intro me this

i can understand why he recommend you that

if you decide to use this rod for other type of fishing then you still able to use it

if you buy a genuine bottom setup , you can only use it for sea bottom fishing

not to mention cedros is quite expansive , if i m not mistaken you around rm 7xx
for that price i recommend you take biomaster 5000 or saragosa 5000


forget to ask what kinda weight you planning on using ?

i can understand why he recommend you that

if you decide to use this rod for other type of fishing then you still able to use it

if you buy a genuine bottom setup , you can only use it for sea bottom fishing

not to mention cedros is quite expansive , if i m not mistaken you around rm 7xx
for that price i recommend you take biomaster 5000 or saragosa 5000


forget to ask what kinda weight you planning on using ?

Cedros he offer me is 360. I see ok. Since im new u think i should take that or not. Or just use a purely bottom rod

u get good tekong help u. i not yet fully trained. nobody can know everything except unker david aka ironman. jig technique cannot just watch utube to learn. u get basic knowledge from utube ok la. real llife u dunno how hard they jerk or how hard they apply force for fast jig, how the speed pace, how the lift, how much they spool in. so get good tekong willing to share.
i go out alot with unker david. for 9 years oredi. i think maybe i got 3% of his knowledge in fishing. ah chuah got more because he got more deep pokets. my finance is limited bajet.

my advice is get a good jigging tekong help u. u chartter his boat out, learn from him. he can tell u weather conditions and the gear to prepare.

if klang u no use heavy jig is will float till heaven. i just came back klang yesterday. super strong undercurrent. jig weight around 300gm only can reach bottom. normal usual days, u can use 150gm-200gm. hardly u can use 40gm. if in klang water u can use 40gm means is called air mati. during air mati, u drop what shit also wont catch anything 1. trust me on this. experienced tekong can advice u .

klang water is roughly 15m-65m depend on tide. 15m usually is lepak place for tengiri . u jig must fast run mid jig range with fast retrieve. tengiri is chase fish. if u nothing for them chase, u will spook them.

so some things to consider when jigging

1 - water depth. (how deep , the how heavy the gear, the jigs colors u use. got color spectrum underwater u can refer to chart using google)
2 - target fish. u wan target what fish will depend on jig style. slow jig, fast jig, crank bait, jerkbait, softbait, micro jigging, fast retrieve, slow retrieve, bottom dwelller, top dweller etc etc
3 - sea conditions. high tide mean strong current and means u need heavier jig if u wan reach bottom and not let your partner fak 97 u.
4 - location. if u fish in klang and expect a marlin or dolphin and u prepared your setup for it, then u will dissapoint. if u bring popper setup to kuala selangor u will be dissapoint. so see location and what fish available thhere.


with this in mind u can prepare your gears.
i give u 2 example.

1 - klang

if u fish in klang yesterday, i went 30nm off carey, i know the depth area is around 40m. water is not clear, undercurrent super strong around 3knot and i am target jenahak and tengiri and baracuda.

so i prepared, 5000 reel with 30lb braid and 50lb leader 3 depa cause is deep and fish is with sharp gigi, rod i use senses pe 3-6 cause jig weight will be about 300gm-350gm. yes i use spinning reel with slow fall jig and slow pitch rod. i not like open reel. my thumb pain. jig color used to be yellow and oren but since i use for 2 years oredi, all color come out and become silver. my jig is for target tengiri/baracuda so i drop between 5m-15m. i no play jenahak bottom dweller or tong gas.

2 - mersing

if u fish in mersing yesterday, which is high tide coz my friend just balik from there, the depth around pulau sri buat is 30m. water is clear, undercurrent strong around 1.1knot and target is tengiri.

so prepare 4000 reel with 20lb braid and 50lb leader 3 depa cause not deep but gigi super sharp. rod can use pe 0.8-1 or 1-2/1-3 cause jig weight will be 40gm-80gm. chase tengiri is fast retrieve so crankbait good. if no crankbait can fast retrieve 40-60gm metal jig also. put bulu just in case. they say bulu very good to attract tengiri but i no try before.


so u see, the setup of diff location, diff time, diff target fish, diff undercurrent , diff water visibility all take into consider. u must know where u gonna fish, what time, when and determine how u wanna fish.

u can jig, fast or slow. u can soft bait, but that also got fast and slow. u can bottom, which is apolo or reban. u can crankbait for tengiri or GT. popping dun play la. damn tiring 1. need teknik to popping and not easy wor. i try before after 3 minit i give up liao. the popping rod so stiff i think can use make as tiang for house ah.

anyway i hope this help u little bit by little bit. many thing to learn for jigging. i also tableh habis learning 1.



okuma good. helios for mid jigging. cedros for bottom fishing. they got baitrunner series very good very effective. can compare with even better than shimano baitrunner. of all the okuma reel, i most like is their trio 55s i think. baitrunner. is good for bottom/deep sea 1.
they also got nice rod, pe1 i think, nemesis. very nice feel like abu garcia verdict but less than 1/2 the price. i remember last time i wanted the verdict. RM 300+ then i discover nemesis. RM 95. i straight wanted buy nemesis. end up i go buy expert graphite i regret like shit. i kena poison by friend buy EG. i shudda bought nemesis.