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post Mar 10 2017, 06:44 PM

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jig on melaka straits especially klang need 180gm minimum on usual basis. 200,230,250 is standard la. current so strong.

if u go further down nearer to indon water then u need 250,280,300.
if u go further up north to jarak/sembilan, then need 150,180,200.

unless tekong bring u 10m depth near carey island then u 120gm enuf liao.

u go south cina sea that side like rompin, pekan, mersing, seidili , use 40-80gm also nice liao. not deep and calmer waters unless u near monsoon season. on usual time like march, april, then best lor, use 40-80gm micro jig also can up many tengiri .
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post Mar 10 2017, 08:43 PM

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just got some horrible news.

Natural Exotic Rawang is closing down its operations and moving to its new premise in Behrang, Tanjung Malim. Sigh........ gotta drive so far just to test gear.


We will be moving to Behrang 2020, Tanjong Malim,Perak and our current operation will be stop at 13.03.2017, 8:00am.
We will update our new operation date, charges, rule & regulations soon.
我们即将搬迁......Behrang 2020,Tg. Malim.
我们万绕钓鱼场即将关闭,暂停营业于13.03.2017,早上8时。
一切条规,收费和营业时间会另外再通知大家。
Natural fishing pond akan tutup berniaga pada masa 13.03.2017, pukul 8 pagi.
Peraturan, pembayaran dan tarikh mula berniaga akan diumumkan kemudian.


more info u can get from here

https://www.facebook.com/NEFFP/

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post Mar 13 2017, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Mar 11 2017, 01:50 AM)
Wow seem like u know a lot about jigging. Any open trip in the near future? I have jigging gear but don't have guru to learn with. Also now looking forward for my 1st jigging licence. Trial and error before but no result.
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u get good tekong help u. i not yet fully trained. nobody can know everything except unker david aka ironman. jig technique cannot just watch utube to learn. u get basic knowledge from utube ok la. real llife u dunno how hard they jerk or how hard they apply force for fast jig, how the speed pace, how the lift, how much they spool in. so get good tekong willing to share.
i go out alot with unker david. for 9 years oredi. i think maybe i got 3% of his knowledge in fishing. ah chuah got more because he got more deep pokets. my finance is limited bajet.

my advice is get a good jigging tekong help u. u chartter his boat out, learn from him. he can tell u weather conditions and the gear to prepare.

if klang u no use heavy jig is will float till heaven. i just came back klang yesterday. super strong undercurrent. jig weight around 300gm only can reach bottom. normal usual days, u can use 150gm-200gm. hardly u can use 40gm. if in klang water u can use 40gm means is called air mati. during air mati, u drop what shit also wont catch anything 1. trust me on this. experienced tekong can advice u .

klang water is roughly 15m-65m depend on tide. 15m usually is lepak place for tengiri . u jig must fast run mid jig range with fast retrieve. tengiri is chase fish. if u nothing for them chase, u will spook them.

so some things to consider when jigging

1 - water depth. (how deep , the how heavy the gear, the jigs colors u use. got color spectrum underwater u can refer to chart using google)
2 - target fish. u wan target what fish will depend on jig style. slow jig, fast jig, crank bait, jerkbait, softbait, micro jigging, fast retrieve, slow retrieve, bottom dwelller, top dweller etc etc
3 - sea conditions. high tide mean strong current and means u need heavier jig if u wan reach bottom and not let your partner fak 97 u.
4 - location. if u fish in klang and expect a marlin or dolphin and u prepared your setup for it, then u will dissapoint. if u bring popper setup to kuala selangor u will be dissapoint. so see location and what fish available thhere.


with this in mind u can prepare your gears.
i give u 2 example.

1 - klang

if u fish in klang yesterday, i went 30nm off carey, i know the depth area is around 40m. water is not clear, undercurrent super strong around 3knot and i am target jenahak and tengiri and baracuda.

so i prepared, 5000 reel with 30lb braid and 50lb leader 3 depa cause is deep and fish is with sharp gigi, rod i use senses pe 3-6 cause jig weight will be about 300gm-350gm. yes i use spinning reel with slow fall jig and slow pitch rod. i not like open reel. my thumb pain. jig color used to be yellow and oren but since i use for 2 years oredi, all color come out and become silver. my jig is for target tengiri/baracuda so i drop between 5m-15m. i no play jenahak bottom dweller or tong gas.

2 - mersing

if u fish in mersing yesterday, which is high tide coz my friend just balik from there, the depth around pulau sri buat is 30m. water is clear, undercurrent strong around 1.1knot and target is tengiri.

so prepare 4000 reel with 20lb braid and 50lb leader 3 depa cause not deep but gigi super sharp. rod can use pe 0.8-1 or 1-2/1-3 cause jig weight will be 40gm-80gm. chase tengiri is fast retrieve so crankbait good. if no crankbait can fast retrieve 40-60gm metal jig also. put bulu just in case. they say bulu very good to attract tengiri but i no try before.


so u see, the setup of diff location, diff time, diff target fish, diff undercurrent , diff water visibility all take into consider. u must know where u gonna fish, what time, when and determine how u wanna fish.

u can jig, fast or slow. u can soft bait, but that also got fast and slow. u can bottom, which is apolo or reban. u can crankbait for tengiri or GT. popping dun play la. damn tiring 1. need teknik to popping and not easy wor. i try before after 3 minit i give up liao. the popping rod so stiff i think can use make as tiang for house ah.

anyway i hope this help u little bit by little bit. many thing to learn for jigging. i also tableh habis learning 1.



QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Mar 11 2017, 05:12 PM)
Guys any comments on okuma reels? Got intro ajiking rodand okuma reel for deep sea
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okuma good. helios for mid jigging. cedros for bottom fishing. they got baitrunner series very good very effective. can compare with even better than shimano baitrunner. of all the okuma reel, i most like is their trio 55s i think. baitrunner. is good for bottom/deep sea 1.
they also got nice rod, pe1 i think, nemesis. very nice feel like abu garcia verdict but less than 1/2 the price. i remember last time i wanted the verdict. RM 300+ then i discover nemesis. RM 95. i straight wanted buy nemesis. end up i go buy expert graphite i regret like shit. i kena poison by friend buy EG. i shudda bought nemesis.


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post Mar 13 2017, 07:52 PM

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cedros u buy 8000 or 10000 ?

cannot jig la, dun crazy la. too heavy already, u muscular meh ? u wan jig use mid range 4000 5000 ok la. still can sustain. cedros i know is 8000 and 10000 very popular. u see the weight oredi wan pengsan. cedros is like penn battle 2. sturdy but heavy like fuark oni. dun siao meh. we not gwailou leh, we weakling leh.
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post Mar 13 2017, 09:58 PM

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start with micro jigging. go pekan or sedili. good ground to start.

with micro jig 20gm/40gm/60gm then u can feel what is slow retrieve and fast retrieve. your action also easier when jig is light. the more action u impart will determine your jig movement.

most fish attack when jig fall. so u need impart enough force for jig to fall gracefully. if not it not look like dying fish .

light jigging not ngam port klang unless water very calm.

also your setup, your rod pe 2 not light jigging oredi. pe0.8 or 1 is light jigging. pe2 quite hard can take up 40lbs pressure. pe 3-6 can take up 50lbs pressure.

stiff rod more hard on muscle to impart action on jig. tired very fast bro.


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post Mar 15 2017, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Mar 14 2017, 12:19 PM)
planning to fish at damai, kuching. but then again its not deep sea la. 5k is not too big ka? i still newbie bo. btw anyone tries buying jigging accesories at taobao? cheap? good quality?
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cedros for bottom nobody buy under 8k la.

bottom fishing normally gear very heavy. depend on depth depend on current.

u imagine, bottom fishing, u put sinker size 12 also enough die liao. so your braid line normally 50lbs+60lbs leader. then u got multiple hook with bait. u use chop kembung fish oredi is added weight. then u got 2-3 hook mean 2-3 hook with kembong. 4000 reel where enough to line out ? fish bite how ? your drag cannot lock also, u let loose then the fish will bring your line out. sea fish very strong 1. can pull 100m or more even.

usual fishing depth is between 15-40m. imagine 15m of your line gone, then fish pull apa maciam ? not only that, nobody can gerenti u at the bottom wont latch onto things 1. the sea is filled with dead coral and all. u potong tali that time how many meter u left back in your reel ?

on average, fishing in south china sea u require at least 150m-200m worth of fishing line. coz the sea is really filled with rubbish. if u kena latch onto rubbish at bottom u potong at least u still have line. i kena b4. fishing out kena snag 2 time, straight 100m gone. my reel size 6000 from penn last time. lucky i braid with 40lbs only so i can spool in 230m of line. after that i change straight the reel to twin power 8000. beh tahan, spool in 50lbs. can get around 250m.


jigging accesory can buy from taobao. my friend use still can up fish and sotong. dont buy those bulu bulu 1 . msia fish not like bulu bulu stuff 1. metal jig still ok . shiny then good enough liao. if rod and reel pls dun. that kingcast brand really cacat like hell. they report u numbers that are not for human to believe 1.

my friend buy the baitcaster king cast, wa piang eh, same size as my scorpion xt. mahem there state drag 6kg. my scorpion baru max drag 4kg wei. 2kg drag is a lot. end up try try manaaaaaa ada 6kg. bou dai sou 1.
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post Mar 15 2017, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ Mar 15 2017, 11:31 AM)
okay advised noted.  thumbsup.gif  i will try to use this current budget for jigging. bottom i wil use heavy duty one lo.  ugly tiger and drum. but this bottom 1 i can do it later la. tight budget . i see how it goes for my first trip first.
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concentrate on 1 first. jigging is jigging. bottom is bottom.

jigging boat is always drifting. botttom boat is anchored down.

u cannot do 2. u got no time to do 2. only heroes do 2 together. when they intend to jig more than bottom, their bottom rods all super heavy gear and sink to 2-3m above seabed. that way when boat is drifting u less chance snag into anything. their heavy gear all also is super strong to enable the fish to tire and wear out themself while they have time to pull up the jig and run to heavy gear to pull up.

trust me dun hero. even i also dun dare hero. the worst thing when on boat is trying to fix chau bihun. when bottom not fully sink, mean your leader to hook is float according to where current bring u. if u leader 3-4m , then is 3-4m radius. so u jig within the 3-4m radius u sure ham 7 . straight big chance to chau bihun then u spend 1-2 hour to remove the bihun instead of catching fish.

u can do both, provided u got many space. if u on board tuna 3 those expert level boat, if whole boat jig, u jig. if whole boat bottom, u bottom. no 1/2 1/2 type geh. if anyone apollo or what, u will kena tiau from 7-8 ppl on board.
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post Apr 17 2017, 10:50 AM

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team ironman goes fishing to new exotic fishing pond at behrang tanjung malim.




can see unker david at 6:20

i no go. i sick.
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post Apr 25 2017, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(katsumoto2011 @ Apr 24 2017, 09:20 PM)
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16kg tenggiri !!!!!  rclxm9.gif
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a challenger has arrived

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50+kg cobia in klang waters (not zeezone)



lightest geaar on board the boat ........1 hour 22 minutes to bring up.
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post Apr 26 2017, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Apr 25 2017, 08:00 PM)
Jigging trip?
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jigging and apolo. air mati that time drop apolo syiok wei. alot of cencaru these few months in klang waters
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post Apr 26 2017, 02:36 PM

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anyone interested to pekan ? maybe tentatively june 11. fiber boat pure jigging only. no bottom.

medium boat fit 8 max. fishing off 30nM - 35nM. 7am - 6pm.
now i got 4 confirmation another 2 on hold. still got slot.
RM200/pax

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post Apr 28 2017, 05:58 PM

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ANGLING EXPO at setia city convention today tomorow and sunday. 28-30

alot of goodie bag.

for more info

https://www.facebook.com/aorfair/



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post May 2 2017, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(ex24dec02 @ Apr 29 2017, 10:12 PM)
Got mine yesterday

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fuuuuuuuu best wei. u waited for daily lucky draw and grand draw ? i know the grand prize is stella 4000
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post May 15 2017, 03:29 PM

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for casting i usually go to lvl 1 of my condominium around 1am and do casting at the swimming pool. can see top water action lure like my sinking minnow and mini minnow. sometime i change to spoon and try diff pull back.

i think the best casting place is still at my friend condominium at mont kiara there. got olimpik size pool and got 4m deep end. we usually sneak to the pool and start casting non stop. when bored that time change to jerkbait and soft paddle tail to improve on actions.
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post May 18 2017, 02:01 PM

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Go Puchong tasik prima for casting. Catch some angry pb . Good for practice.
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post May 22 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(g r a p e k e y @ May 22 2017, 12:24 PM)
Is it the one in front of Vista Millennium? You fish in Puchong?
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no i no fish in puchong. puchong not for human go 1.

if pond, i am kbpl kaki and member. if it is sea fishing then i onz !
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post May 23 2017, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(seikoho1 @ May 23 2017, 11:52 AM)
anyone can guide me where to hv sea fishing and share our slot together? anyone hv extra tools pls lend me? wanna experience...
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see type of fishing.

sea fishing bottom or jig ?
wood boat around 500-800 bucks can get. fiber boat normally 6 ppl around 1200-1300 like that. big fiber like tuna 2 tuna 3 around 2500-3200 like that.

tools can lend. gear cannot lend. sacred. is like ask ppl lend u underwear like that.
split ring kiap, leader /floro/batu can la. rod and reel and jig is cannot 1. hook maybe can share share, assist hook definitely no share share 1.


QUOTE(froggyx @ May 23 2017, 11:57 AM)
Hi bro...mind sharing location for apollo in klang...never tried before..always fish near the sinked ship near northport but if apollo area available would like to try.thanks in advance.
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around this region

2.835344, 101.234131

cencaru and selar spots. wait i check my gmaps later. i tag it before on my phone. usually is inside my garmin nav but that unit is not woth me now.
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post May 24 2017, 08:40 AM

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QUOTE(froggyx @ May 23 2017, 12:45 PM)
Thank you sifu...waiting ur reply...thanks again.
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ok selar spot

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2.822625, 101.190153



cencaru + vietnam rose spot (set drift around 1/2nm radius)

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2.844089, 101.238040




sek pan + ang zhou spot (set drift around 1/2 nm radius)

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2.659762, 101.325171


these are confirm spots. but beware the sek pan spot yah. underneath i think i lost about.......14 jigs jor. approx 120-150gm on calm current should be good.


QUOTE(seikoho1 @ May 23 2017, 02:33 PM)
can pm me if you have any fishing sea trip? wanna join and share cost...
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i wont be going anymore until late next year. this year sotong trip also i have to cancel. my wife giving birth and due in 2 months time. no more fishing until at least 1 year. u wan u can go join my friends or take tekong contact from me.


QUOTE(Proclaimer @ May 23 2017, 10:55 PM)
LOL, like lending underwear eh?  laugh.gif
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correct wat lol
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post May 24 2017, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Relentless @ May 24 2017, 11:01 AM)
Any  coastal place good for fishing in klang?
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2.909519, 101.311106

2.908155, 101.309973



these 2 spot. 1 is near sand mining the other is port. shaded with many trees and best douuuu.

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post May 24 2017, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(g r a p e k e y @ May 24 2017, 11:29 AM)
There's one place in puchong got pond in front of kopitiams. Ambient wise looks breezy and comes with hut for shelter.

What's a kbpl?

how to onz? wife delivering right lol. Congrats
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https://www.facebook.com/kolambukitlanchongKPBL/

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