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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V56, Kuda kuda kuda kuda kuda!

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TitanRev
post Jan 3 2014, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Jan 3 2014, 01:27 PM)
guys about flx stock spring , mine already change to proride blm sport spring which is harder than stock blm spring ..
as far as i know flx spring oso harder than blm spring so right now changing to proride sport spring contribute nothing on handling compare to flx spring? just for cosmetic lower look or the lowered center of gravity itself can make my flx handles better? so far i think proride spring on my flx feel soft as stock flx before this ...sumore now im using 15 inch rim compare to 13inch steel rim before..i do feel rear side same soft like before..but front not cos abs koyaked i think..kepish2, kriekk2 sound got ady..
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Actually changing to sport spring won't improve your handling very much....want to upgrade handling and can feel it tremendously you need to go for coil overs.


QUOTE(MylesAuto @ Jan 3 2014, 02:01 PM)
silverstone a big NO! almost cost me an accident brand new tyre somemore when i change from hankook on my weekend car  mad.gif
mine no cooler yet no issue, where the turbo with intercooler overheat..  whistling.gif
SUPERCHARGE or TURBO Charged saw it at mudah
both also will not think about it  doh.gif

below is what i got in mind
- increase stability of the car ( bar / shock / spring ) still researching what to do
- increase engine smoothness ( plug / filter / exhaust ) still researching what to do
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Stability of car....you can refer to the otai here you want all out handling? or 50/50.....for engine also can refer here but need to be specific like what you want to achieve and your target but be reasonable on your target. It will be best to join TT so that you can see how the cars are setup...
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 3 2014, 02:07 PM)
Actually changing to sport spring won't improve your handling very much....want to upgrade handling and can feel it tremendously you need to go for coil overs.
Stability of car....you can refer to the otai here you want all out handling? or 50/50.....for engine also can refer here but need to be specific like what you want to achieve and your target but be reasonable on your target. It will be best to join TT so that you can see how the cars are setup...
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can i c ur car setup sifu.. wub.gif wub.gif
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 3 2014, 02:07 PM)
Actually changing to sport spring won't improve your handling very much....want to upgrade handling and can feel it tremendously you need to go for coil overs....
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so adjustable is better choice for handling right sifu?
2014 start funding for adjustable..hehe

btw thanks brah
r3apers
post Jan 3 2014, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Jan 3 2014, 02:16 PM)
so adjustable is better choice for handling right sifu?
2014 start funding for adjustable..hehe

btw thanks brah
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most probably yes...
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:27 PM

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Damn miss this taikor car...

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Fubar20
post Jan 3 2014, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Jan 3 2014, 01:07 PM)
u duno i am from the future meh??lol..
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 3 2014, 02:12 PM)
can i c ur car setup sifu..  wub.gif  wub.gif
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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Jan 3 2014, 02:16 PM)
so adjustable is better choice for handling right sifu?
2014 start funding for adjustable..hehe

btw thanks brah
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For me yes. Take example:
You change to sport spring but not satisfy then you will ask for sport absorber. After that maybe better but you not satisfy again then you will think about adjustable but you have spent your money on sport spring and absorber why not save up more and one shot drop in the best. Also you no need to pay so many time for labour to open, fix, open, fix your suspension...those also money...1st you need to really know what you really want...all out handling then don't complain no comfort...want comfort then handling won't be top...
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(MylesAuto @ Jan 3 2014, 02:01 PM)
silverstone a big NO! almost cost me an accident brand new tyre somemore when i change from hankook on my weekend car  mad.gif
mine no cooler yet no issue, where the turbo with intercooler overheat..  whistling.gif
SUPERCHARGE or TURBO Charged saw it at mudah
both also will not think about it  doh.gif

below is what i got in mind
- increase stability of the car ( bar / shock / spring ) still researching what to do
- increase engine smoothness ( plug / filter / exhaust ) still researching what to do
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Ya, is a big NO that's why I mentioned if you like 'Oversteer' then can get LOL! laugh.gif
I got into accident with Silverstone too but road was wet though when taking that corner.

Know the tyre's limit but wanted to push more and see on wet. Sendiri Cari pasal laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 3 2014, 12:54 PM)
Since it's 2014....you guys got what 2014 resolution for your car??
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 3 2014, 02:33 PM)
For me yes. Take example:
You change to sport spring but not satisfy then you will ask for sport absorber. After that maybe better but you not satisfy again then you will think about adjustable but you have spent your money on sport spring and absorber why not save up more and one shot drop in the best. Also you no need to pay so many time for labour to open, fix, open, fix your suspension...those also money...1st you need to really know what you really want...all out handling then don't complain no comfort...want comfort then handling won't be top...
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In terms of car mods, nothing will be able to satisfy you for long provided you enjoy every single upgrades yawn.gif
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:37 PM

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my 2014 resolution :
keeping car as factory assembled stock as can be. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 3 2014, 12:49 PM)
ada cvt cooler mia... better thn auto car no cooler...  :sweat
should put Stalker Funker in ur sticker...lololololo
u attract mat lat lou alot...
i also stock suspension but with sum bars on only...
2molo? apa brg?
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Yours front is XM2 right? How was the grip? Lots of wheel spin?

QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 3 2014, 02:34 PM)
Ya, is a big NO that's why I mentioned if you like 'Oversteer' then can get LOL!  laugh.gif
I got into accident with Silverstone too but road was wet though when taking that corner.

Know the tyre's limit but wanted to push more and see on wet. Sendiri Cari pasal  laugh.gif
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Same here. Accident in the wet on Silverstones but was straight road and car in front slam brakes because the car in front of him want to last minute turn into junction. sweat.gif
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 3 2014, 12:54 PM)
Since it's 2014....you guys got what 2014 resolution for your car??
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 3 2014, 02:27 PM)
Damn miss this taikor car...

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post Jan 3 2014, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 3 2014, 03:07 PM)
Actually changing to sport spring won't improve your handling very much....want to upgrade handling and can feel it tremendously you need to go for coil overs.
Stability of car....you can refer to the otai here you want all out handling? or 50/50.....for engine also can refer here but need to be specific like what you want to achieve and your target but be reasonable on your target. It will be best to join TT so that you can see how the cars are setup...
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just increase better handling than stock while can maintain reasonable amount of comfort... smile.gif hence i plan getting harder shock, strut bar might be enough or maybe different spring rate.... all the while maintain ride height...

for engine i just wan smoother drive or better low - mid range power for daily usage... auto car for travelling only not hardcore driving.. once in a while genting cruise whistling.gif


QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 3 2014, 03:34 PM)
Ya, is a big NO that's why I mentioned if you like 'Oversteer' then can get LOL!  laugh.gif
I got into accident with Silverstone too but road was wet though when taking that corner.

Know the tyre's limit but wanted to push more and see on wet. Sendiri Cari pasal  laugh.gif
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my experience was understeer during dry.. sad.gif
i made a mistake that time thinking no matter how bad the tyre it should be better than my near to botak fancook tyres...
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Jan 3 2014, 02:33 PM)
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For me yes. Take example:
You change to sport spring but not satisfy then you will ask for sport absorber. After that maybe better but you not satisfy again then you will think about adjustable but you have spent your money on sport spring and absorber why not save up more and one shot drop in the best. Also you no need to pay so many time for labour to open, fix, open, fix your suspension...those also money...1st you need to really know what you really want...all out handling then don't complain no comfort...want comfort then handling won't be top...
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 3 2014, 02:37 PM)
my 2014 resolution :
keeping car as factory assembled stock as can be.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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factory ur head u got ular oren and sticker liao... whistling.gif

QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jan 3 2014, 02:42 PM)
Yours front is XM2 right? How was the grip? Lots of wheel spin?
Same here. Accident in the wet on Silverstones but was straight road and car in front slam brakes because the car in front of him want to last minute turn into junction. sweat.gif
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yes my front XM2... dry grip ok la... maybe pressure not enuff so dunno grip is there or not... currently in 31 psi only... but wet grip fuiyo not bad... run into water puddle also ok wont said will pull u to 1 side..
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QUOTE(MylesAuto @ Jan 3 2014, 02:46 PM)
just increase better handling than stock while can maintain reasonable amount of comfort...  smile.gif hence i plan getting harder shock, strut bar might be enough or maybe different spring rate.... all the while maintain ride height...

for engine i just wan smoother drive or better low - mid range power for daily usage... auto car for travelling only not hardcore driving.. once in a while genting cruise  whistling.gif
my experience was understeer during dry..  sad.gif
i made a mistake that time thinking no matter how bad the tyre it should be better than my near to botak fancook tyres...
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hmm.gif But most modern FWD are designed to understeer instead of oversteer which is easier to control than having the car to oversteer.

Most of the time I'm losing lots of grip at the rear. So, did oversteer once, but sendiri ask for it one haha!
Just felt the same la cars not much grip at corners, maybe understeering a lot like you.

Somehow just feel the tyre is not keeping the car on the ground.
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 3 2014, 03:47 PM)
factory ur head u got ular oren and sticker liao...  whistling.gif
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i said keeping as factory stock as can be.
some blardy stick the damn sticker, not me.. whistling.gif

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Jan 3 2014, 02:37 PM)
my 2014 resolution :
keeping car as factory assembled stock as can be.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Jan 3 2014, 02:47 PM)
factory ur head u got ular oren and sticker liao...  whistling.gif
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nod.gif Stock kepala OX funker. Change bulb also dunno how many times already. whistling.gif
And tyres also should not been stock mia, right? brows.gif
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post Jan 3 2014, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 3 2014, 03:52 PM)
hmm.gif  But most modern FWD are designed to understeer instead of oversteer which is easier to control than having the car to oversteer.

Most of the time I'm losing lots of grip at the rear. So, did oversteer once, but sendiri ask for it one haha!
Just felt the same la cars not much grip at corners, maybe understeering a lot like you.

Somehow just feel the tyre is not keeping the car on the ground.
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mine is the car is not turning to the direction i want which is understeer....
i ended up release gas & turn my steering more & more to force the car turn instead of crash to the divider... shocking.gif

if u oversteer then u will turning more than u should during the turn, which is much more scarier in my point of view shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(2JayZ @ Jan 3 2014, 02:52 PM)
hmm.gif  But most modern FWD are designed to understeer instead of oversteer which is easier to control than having the car to oversteer.

Most of the time I'm losing lots of grip at the rear. So, did oversteer once, but sendiri ask for it one haha!
Just felt the same la cars not much grip at corners, maybe understeering a lot like you.

Somehow just feel the tyre is not keeping the car on the ground.
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ohh... i try to buang my car few times but cannot... dunno apa hal.... lolx whistling.gif

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