Interested to test drive?

Elantra is quite spacious. 6 footer customer quite happy. Space for him and space behind him pretty good

Come have a look? I'm at Hyundai Glenmarie

Elantra is nice, but it was over my budget...
havent test drive Elantra yet, but quite satisfied after test drive cerato

Get a pre owned unit lor. We're selling off our company cars.

Whatsapp me at 0124727002 and i will send u our list

Zenix, I think many bros and sisters here patiently await your come back . Of course includes me as well. Hehe

This unit only 6 mths old, one owner malay, traded for an X1, BMW selling this for 185k, mileage currently is 3868km only, is worth buying? This is 1.8tfsi model...



What's your opinion?

This post has been edited by Scissorshand: Mar 10 2015, 08:58 PM

Not much of a korean car person.
The car might be good but you have to think of other things beside the car.

1. service network - i think by now this isn't a problem as many workshops can handle hyundai's but if you insist on a 3s, they're still limited
2. parts - spare parts availability and price becomes an issue if your car isn't a common one. regular service items like fuel filter, air filter, etc. wouldn't be an issue, you might run into issues when you need other things like bearings, mountings, etc.
3. rv - is pretty bad so you unless you're going to keep it for 10 years, better off getting something else.

You're welcomed!

Our car market is pretty sad nowadays as B-segment cars have inflated to be capped as under 100k cars, a top spec City is in the 90k-ish range while the Mazda 2 isn't that much cheaper being around 88k OTR. So which is better value?

Mazda 2 Skyactiv (M2S) in either hackback/sedan form is the same price and spec wise it looks to trump the Honda City (HC) with better looks inside and out, and also has a very sporty dashboard. Performance wise Mazda claims the Skyactiv cars would be as good as hybrid cars in fuel consumption without the complicated and heavy hybrid hardware. I think the problem with Mazda now is Bermaz hasn't rolled out enough 3S or appointed enough dealers to handle the brand, if you're outside of the klang valley this would be an issue.

Car vs Car I think M2S beats HC hands down in price and spec.

If I am not mistaken there is a LYN member also selling pre-reg VW's here.
I think it is a good deal as long as you get full warranty and everything as good as a new car.
If they say suppose to be 5 years warranty but because it is a 2013 car now is less 2 years warranty, it isn't such a sweet deal.
But depends on you coz RM60k you can't buy anything C-segment anyway, and most A/B-segment cars in that price range are usually 3 years warranty anyway.

I think I can cut it short as someone already did research on this.
Please read the link here.
Also Honda Civics and Mit/Toyo/Ford pickups are hot too.
A few months before the merdeka race usually highly modified or high spec protons will go missing.

Hi Zenix!

Thanks so much for the feedback. Much appreciated.

I've been doing a bit of test driving and it seems like the choice has really come down to the X1 sDrive20i or the GLA.

My follow-up questions/comments are:

The X1 is about RM30k cheaper than the GLA 200 and the GLA 200 is in turn RM30k than the GLA 250.
Next to the GLA, the X1 looks boring and dated.
I'm not a car enthusiast but performance wise the GLA 250 seems to lose out on the X1 (I test drove only these two models). But I don't understand why, given that the GLA 250 has more HP than the X1.
Looks and technology aside, I don't think there's much you can complain about the X1 other than the fact that the X1's transmission tunnel is huge and makes it almost impossible to seat a third rear passenger.

1. The GLA 200 is a 1.6l engine. My fear is that it would be under-powered. Should the GLA 200 even be considered? Or is it a trap for those who want to get their hands on a GLA but can't stretch their budget for the GLA 250?

2. If the GLA 200 isn't worth the money then between the GLA 250 and X1, which would you choose? And why?


Thanks again! I know this is aimed at Zenix but any other opinions/feedback is welcomed.

This post has been edited by bobsj: Mar 11 2015, 04:00 PM

Hello everyone,

I'm looking for MPV, midsize or full size because me with another 3 family members like to travel on every weekend.
Appreciate to share your knowledge & experience with me

1. Brand : any
2. Budget : 40~85k
3. New/Used/Unreg : any
4. Specs : comfortable
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI : any
7. Type : MPV
8. Remarks:
-Prefer something value for money,
-Less problematic, I don't mind about wear & tear part issue as long as easy to find spare parts (not DSG type issue)
-Roadtax price - no problem (1500cc to 3500cc)
-RV not an issue
-Currently in the watch list Nissan Elgrand E51, Odyssey RB series, Citroen C8 & Exora Bold (New)
9.Others recommendation?

Thanks in advance.

n/a

This post has been edited by pjkl: Mar 14 2015, 04:24 PM

yes, it is possible the car was involved in accident and the owner forked out his own money to pay for it.
but this would usually involve small accidents as the driver would need to repair his own car and also pay for the repairs of the other car he banged.
usually people won't do this if it is more than rm2000 for both cars, he rather just lose out on the NCB and pay the rm300 saman when the owner of the car he banged makes a police report to claim insurance.

so two ways you can check....
1. insurance claims
2. police report

both base on the number plate and vehicle type (as some people recycle the number plates).


Firstly, there is nothing wrong in choosing a manual over an auto transmission. The clutch on cars with less than 1500cc are pretty light these days, not like the old Datsun 120Y (for those who can still remember) a small cc car but clutch quite heavy. However, the market being very much bias towards automatics nowadays it would be easier to sell on or have slightly better RV when you trade-in or sell direct later on.

I know that there is a Skim Graduate but I recommend against it if you have your parents support just do the normal loan because usually those "skim this or that" you'll suffer at the end of the loan. Either the loan amounts to begin with are small then the last few installments are very expensive or the loan is too long until there is no RV. e.g. used car market value is 10k but you still owe 10k to the bank and need to pay for another year.

The newest myvi has an ANCAP of 4/5, which is good.



What help you need bro?

I think 4k salary kena income tax already, so why so scared?
I did a quick search on oto.my I think the price quoted to you is around there but depending on the final spec and condition.

If you have 20k cash, just pay.
LHDN won't audit you unless you buy something over 100k by cash
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here are the basic differences in reality

Accord - technology usually a step ahead however maintenance is slightly more expensive due to lesser parts carryover, wide service network, no parts issue (many stockist keep stock).
Camry - updates in technology from model to model are slow, maintenance cost is lower because the carryover parts from the previous model, wide service network, no parts issue.
Teana - updates in technology from model to model are slow, maintenance cost is lower because the carryover parts from the previous model, wide service network, no parts issue.
Mazda6 - technology usually a step ahead but maintenance expensive due to lesser parts carryover, service network limited if consider authorized service centers this is a point to consider if buying new but buying used you can go for any workshop not much of an issue there, nowadays mazda cars are quite popular so no longer having parts issue (need to wait for stock) but you pay a premium as mazda cars nowadays are usually at the bleeding edge of technology for japanese passenger cars.

so while we compare cars to cars.....the network and support behind it is also important.....which is why people flock to certain brands eventhough their products aren't so stellar.

I saw comments/issues about the i-Stop feature, such as i-stop not working properly/battery not charging and drainage/cannot start car after not driving, my understanding this i-Stop feature uses a high voltage battery to stop/start the engine, there will be a battery replacement required of every cycle and requires to do a system restore/reset.

I understand that Mazda offers 3 years of warranty and free service, but what happens after the warranty is over?

If it really requires to change the battery that often, i think saving a little bit of fuel is not worth it.

I did sent my query to Mazda but there is no reply for the battery maintenance cost and replacement cycle of period.

Hi. Zenix

plan to buy a used car
which one have the low fuel consumption and low maintenance?
1. 2010 Nissan Sylphy 2.0
2. 2010 Ford Focus TDCI 2.0


This post has been edited by nycdist: Mar 17 2015, 08:55 AM

What do you guys think of a kitted up Mazda 2?

sorry for missing our on yours earlier, i thought I replied, anyone that I skipped unintentionally please notify me

2010 Nissan X-Trail - this used to be what i think as the king of value because it doesn't have a complicated AWD system very consumer friendly (push button), unlike some other makes that only just sell us in either 2WD or AWD this always gives you an option to change, then being Nissan maintenance and spare parts are always wallet friendly (however please take not this is an SUV not Kancil so it isn't going to be RM50 per service, okay?). However, now with the new X-Trail which looks amazing and offers more of the same I think the RV of this model in the future isn't going to be as good as it is now being that this model although is value for money is damn ugly!

2010 Nissan Dualis - so what is the alternative? well you could choose it's import only brother called Dualis. All the mechanical stuff is identitcal so maintenance is the same but it looks alot nicer and closer to Murano's kind of design language. Not much to worry about this model except if you get into a big accident where doors/glass/etc needs to be replaced those would be either hard to find or expensive.

Other than that there are options like Mitsubishi ASX but not many in the used market like this one, I guess it is a good car and people keep it around. You also can consider Honda CRV and I think the used ones are in a good price bracket for used car buyers now.

Good thing about ASX and CRV is that they're the current models being sold new by the manufacturers now so you don't get the "i bought an old model" syndrome of unhappiness eventhough you made a financially sound decision. However, the replacement for the CRV should be coming soon either this year or next. But the Dualis being import only will still loom fresh for a long time due to it's rarity.

I'm usually against such deals for the Polo Sedan because that means although you can get the car easily you're only going to suffer at the end because they will force you to take a 9 year loan which seems good, lower repayment which seems good, then on the 8th year when the car starts to fall apart due to heavy use you decide to trade-in but find out the current market value for the car is (for example) RM10k your amount owing to bank is RM13k so you need to forkout additional RM3k when you buy the next car or creatively settle the issue via discount from salesman or put it into the new car loan. A headache I think you'll want to avoid unless you're desperate now.

The Elantra like the Polo Sedan is a C-segment car and although back in the 90's that would mean a 1600cc engine nowadays 1800cc and 2000cc is common because C-segments have grown in size and weight due to additional equipment for NVH and safety -- don't think you'll enjoy the Elantra 1600cc much. Further more RV is probably the worst of the 4 choices.

Mazda 2 would be a good choice, the car itself is good and RV for Mazda's nowadays isn't that shit. Only issue now is they don't have enough 3S/authorize workshop so you either need to drive quite far to reach one or appointment times are usually packed.

Honda City has grown much it is a very complete car, like the Almera it is longer so there is extra room at the back for passengers. The top spec has a great touch screen dashboard. Enough creature comforts and spec (like VSC) to rival C-segment cars. So if you can't afford a new C-segment car this is pretty close to it. Service network isn't an issue with Honda either. The only problem would be maybe you might feel it is a little bit boring since there are many on the road, but remember boring ones are usually cheaper to maintain due to economics of scale.

Myvi would be your best bet, you can even get a new one with that budget but since you're open to the idea of used cars let me provide you some options which are better and wound't hurt your pocket.

2009 Nissan Latio - this car is a good compromise between updated safety features of cars in this era, being affordable and also avoiding complicated engine and gearboxes. Take it to service at workshops outside (not nissan authorize dealers) the bill will be about the same as if you're maintaining a Persona/Myvi. Although this is a sedan car, if you prefer there is a hatchback version like this and if you put on the Impul bodykit, it looks really smart.

2010 Toyota Vios TRD - this looks like a really good price for a TRD spec, if you like it better quickly give the seller a call because these babies don't come into the market often and at this price. While it has some cheeky accessories to tell it apart from other boring Vios's it is still a normal Vios so maintenance is cheapo like all of them with high reliability.

I think since you're on the highway mostly you'll at least need a B-segment, with your budget you can afford a basic spec B-segment, or a better spec C-segment used car.

If talking about B-segment new there isn't much choice if you're on a budget, it is either going to be a Nissan Almera or Toyota Vios J, you get to have a new car but at the lower end of the B-segment spectrum. Additionally, since you travel alot on the highway you might want to consider a C-segment as it has more safety features especially critical because you drive on highways more -- even if you don't speed others will so you need to be prepared. However, another forumer did mention a 2013 pre-reg VW Polo Sedan can be had for around RM60k, that would be a good deal if the car is in good condition and you still get full warranty and new car loan -- it is a C-segment car with good safety features only minus point is the engine might not be enough to make driving fun for you.

2006 VW Golf GTI - you might see this car within your budget and it is a really fun car but just remember it is a 2006 car so next year it is going to be a 10 year old car, so after you're done with a 5 year loan it is going to be a 14 year old car which cannot be loaned if you wanna sell it on so private buyers will need to fork out cash or you trade-in to buy your new car. This is a good car I don't think the RV will be that bad so after 5 years it might still be around 30-40k range used car price so not really alot of cash buyers. That is if you change cars frequently. So what if you keep it for long term? Well, VW do make good cars and usually German makes will have parts support for at least 30 years of the cars lifetime so don't have to worry about it as Golf's have become pretty common nowadays so no issues getting parts but don't expect it to be as cheap as a Civic/Altis eventhough they're in the same C-segment bracket. There isn't the gearbox or engine failure issues in the GTI as in the TSI so no worries on that but as far as I remember there is a part (iinm a sensor that usually goes faulty at 100,000kms) which cost RM5000 currently, in future maybe it is cheaper dunno. You've gotta further check that with GTI owners to double check.

2006 BMW 118 - alternatively a cheaper option in terms of purchase price would be this baby, they're quite rare of the roads so be sure to not crash it else getting replacement parts for anything more than a bumper would be either costly or need to wait (if you're talking about authorized workshops getting original parts, imho get the chop shop parts is good enough). It is not a turbo so it wouldn't give you that crazy surge of power but being a BMW it isn't going to be underpowered either but the benefits of non-turbo comes in maintenance. So at about 10k cheaper than the GTI the above would be the trade off's. Prestige wise probably BMW is better than GTI but a BMW hatch maybe isn't as good as a sedan 3-series when it comes to prestige. There are 3-series within your budget like 2008 BMW 320 which are within your budget, in terms of maintenance cars in this range they're all about the same in terms of cost so don't expect anything below RM300 when you go for a service interval.

The above are expensive choices so here are some sensible ones 2010 Toyota Altis 1.8 G-Spec , 2011 Honda Civic Hybrid , 2010 Honda Civic FD1 Facelift and 2009 Mazda 3 2.0 would be relatively fun, relatively sporty looking and kinder on your wallet. Mazda 3 the 2000cc variant is good and parts are cheap nowadays for this version but you might feel abit down when you see the newer Skyactiv versions on the road they look better and have better technology, so if you handle handle such envy better give it a skip. The Civic for this generation is considered a golden generation as it has better looks and engine in the K20 but that is if you choose something like 2009 Honda Civic FD2, the one in this advert has everything ready for you the much wanted RR bodykit and RR color paintwork the modifications aren't overboard and looks good, however you can choose the FD1 if you want similar luxuries as the FD2 interior minus the powerful K20 engine but usually FD1's for the same price as FD2 would be younger. So it is your choice older with better engine or newer with relatively better engine. I say relatively because the FD1 is using the R-series engine which is the same as the current generation of Civic's -- purist will say new one is SOHC old one is DOHC so old is better. Actually the performance figures on paper are the same the R-series is better at passing newer emissions standards but if you don't care and want power the R-series is known for being very compatible with force-induced upgrades such as this kit. While the K20 is more on tuning and mechanical upgrades to the cams, air in-take, etc. to get to better performance but still NA. The direction is up to you, or you want a Hybrid? I left out the Sylphy coz it is boring but the Altis is worth a shot as it has a nice look and decent engine, cheap to maintain too -- for better handling just change the shocks.

Bro, your comment on Polo Sedan seems more on loan repayment period. Sticking back to the comment (HMMaster) which is the current promotion, the 0% downpayment (basically the car cost at 91k++ minus 9k) and 0% interest; if buyer opts for 5 years or 7 years loan, is entirely 0% interest. The car cost RM 83k over 7 years. If its 9 years, interest about 0.52% throughout the 9 years, additional close to RM 5k interest). This can be confirmed by any VW SA. I am not VW SA and don't work in automobiles industry. Just that I went to the VW roadshow at Bkt Jalil. =)

With that said, bro zenix hows the recommendation as compared to the other 3 whose top specs City V, Mazda 2 and Elantra which would have cost more than 100k assuming 90%/100% loan, a possible more than 20k difference? Still not reckon? Any opinion on technical, performance and specs-wise? =)

Hi Zenix,
Too bad I have to drop Mazda2 as I have to cut my budget to 65-75K
I have some in my mind but still not sure which one to get...pls help me...

JAZZ E SPEC around 76k after disc
ALMERA 2014 STOCK is 66k while 2015 is 74k, however I heard almera is not really powerful
FIESTA 1.5 Sport, they have crazy offer now, and some dealers even quoted 75k which is very much different from the 80k quoted from Ford Malaysia, however dealer told their car is brand new and not yet registered, I was wondering if it is a re-con?

pls help me to pick the right car, I won't be using my car that often (only two weeks a month) cause I always travel overseas...

Any idea why this guy can sell so cheap ?

http://www.oto.my/tonyshcnake?display=list

I'm looking for small car, currently driving accord 2.4

Spotted Nissan march 2004, selling 32k. Was quite impressed by the internal and push start system although this car was 10years back.

May anyone here give some comments about this car ?

thanks for the advice Chrix. will definitely bring along a trusted mechanic when visiting the used car show room.

btw - when checking the accident record against insurance company/police report - is it there is such a service provider? or i can just walk into police station and give them the car plate no.? or go to each and every insurance company to check?

This post has been edited by showcase: Mar 17 2015, 03:47 PM

Hi Guru, what do you think the coming GST? will it impact for the new car price to increase? i am thinking to get a new car, should i rush to do it now before April 1?

http :// paultan . org /2015/03/14/gst-impact-car-industry-malaysia/

This post has been edited by waisang: Mar 18 2015, 06:42 AM

i read most of zenix reply, i think polo sedan is a b segment. not c segment.