QUOTE(bobsj @ Mar 11 2015, 03:50 PM)
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Hi Zenix!
Thanks so much for the feedback. Much appreciated.
I've been doing a bit of test driving and it seems like the choice has really come down to the X1 sDrive20i or the GLA.
My follow-up questions/comments are:
The X1 is about RM30k cheaper than the GLA 200 and the GLA 200 is in turn RM30k than the GLA 250.
Next to the GLA, the X1 looks boring and dated.
I'm not a car enthusiast but performance wise the GLA 250 seems to lose out on the X1 (I test drove only these two models). But I don't understand why, given that the GLA 250 has more HP than the X1.
Looks and technology aside, I don't think there's much you can complain about the X1 other than the fact that the X1's transmission tunnel is huge and makes it almost impossible to seat a third rear passenger.
1. The GLA 200 is a 1.6l engine. My fear is that it would be under-powered. Should the GLA 200 even be considered? Or is it a trap for those who want to get their hands on a GLA but can't stretch their budget for the GLA 250?
2. If the GLA 200 isn't worth the money then between the GLA 250 and X1, which would you choose? And why?
Thanks again! I know this is aimed at Zenix but any other opinions/feedback is welcomed.
It is true the GLA really does have a fantastic design and look but it will have the same faults as the A-Class and CLA being from the same chasis/platform, rear passenger comfort and legroom is sacrificed for that dramatic sleek raking roof. Nowadays 1600cc turbo engine's are quite the norm for european makes, you can ask anybody owning a VW Golf 1.4TSI if it is a powerful car or not just being 1400cc (ignore the breakdown issues VW is famous for).
I think GLA200 isn't that bad.
Generally for European makes there are three main small turbo engine lineage;
1. Prince (BMW, Peugeot, Citroen, Mini, etc.)
2. EA111/211 (VW Group)
3. M270/274 (Mercedes)
The issues with Prince are well known. BMW's variant for their own 3-series cars is designated as N20 which is supposed to have fixed all the bugs (ultimate driving machine MAH!), everyone knows VW is in deep trouble because of DSG and Engine failure issues, however there haven't been much complaints of Merc's but that isn't to say they're bullet proof.
QUOTE(home_made @ Mar 11 2015, 06:58 PM)
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Hello everyone,
I'm looking for MPV, midsize or full size because me with another 3 family members like to travel on every weekend.
Appreciate to share your knowledge & experience with me
1. Brand : any
2. Budget : 40~85k
3. New/Used/Unreg : any
4. Specs : comfortable
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI : any
7. Type : MPV
8. Remarks:
-Prefer something value for money,
-Less problematic, I don't mind about wear & tear part issue as long as easy to find spare parts (not DSG type issue)
-Roadtax price - no problem (1500cc to 3500cc)
-RV not an issue
-Currently in the watch list Nissan Elgrand E51, Odyssey RB series, Citroen C8 & Exora Bold (New)
9.Others recommendation?
Thanks in advance.
I'm still quite biased against Proton so I don't think I can elaborate much on Exora, though I think it would be quite underpowered on full load.
Citroen C8 are cheap in the used car market but maintenance cost would be quite high as conti's usually only specialist workshops would do a good job but they're not cheap (although more cheaper than authorized workshops/3s) and also parts is another issue.
I'd recommend either an Estima/Odyssey.
2006 Toyota Estima - they're very common on our roads (eventhough they're grey import only cars) and every spare part shop will carry their parts and any workshop can handle it. In terms of maintenance I think no issue it will be friendly to your pocket. But there are alot of models and different spec out there at different prices and remember Toyota's usually have high RV so if it is too cheap there might be an issue with it.
QUOTE(waisang @ Mar 12 2015, 11:09 AM)
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I saw comments/issues about the i-Stop feature, such as i-stop not working properly/battery not charging and drainage/cannot start car after not driving, my understanding this i-Stop feature uses a high voltage battery to stop/start the engine, there will be a battery replacement required of every cycle and requires to do a system restore/reset.
I understand that Mazda offers 3 years of warranty and free service, but what happens after the warranty is over?
If it really requires to change the battery that often, i think saving a little bit of fuel is not worth it.
I did sent my query to Mazda but there is no reply for the battery maintenance cost and replacement cycle of period.
i'm not too sure about this either but sometimes these gimmicks aren't really worth it.
i've a 7 year old honda city, nowadays maybe car old already on engine also like very difficult even after changing starter.
cannot imagine it turn off/on constantly while i am driving in the city, scared it off then cannot on back.
that's abit old skool of me
QUOTE(nycdist @ Mar 12 2015, 11:02 PM)
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Hi. Zenix
plan to buy a used car
which one have the low fuel consumption and low maintenance?
1. 2010 Nissan Sylphy 2.0
2. 2010 Ford Focus TDCI 2.0
The nissan would be a better choice, the 2000cc is better than the 1800cc variant as it has a good power to weight ratio, thus no feeling of underpower or heavy fuel consumption due to heavier foot while driving to poke it to move. Generally, toyota/honda/nissan parts are afford able in malaysia thus low maintenance cost.
Focus TDCI is a great car, far far superior to the Sylphy in many ways but maintenance cost will be very high. It is not a common model on our roads so all parts need to be sourced from authorized service centers or 3S thus not price competitive but it will have a much better fuel consumption compared to the Sylphy because it runs on diesel, as on average most diesels give you back around 500km per tank, that's the average in general for any diesel engine, highway use and light footed use will give you more.
Sylphy would be the safe choice, but TDCI would be the choice if you want a spirited drive and good mileage but don't mind on the maintenance cost.
QUOTE(boonheng87 @ Mar 14 2015, 12:38 AM)
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Bro, your comment on Polo Sedan seems more on loan repayment period. Sticking back to the comment (HMMaster) which is the current promotion, the 0% downpayment (basically the car cost at 91k++ minus 9k) and 0% interest; if buyer opts for 5 years or 7 years loan, is entirely 0% interest. The car cost RM 83k over 7 years. If its 9 years, interest about 0.52% throughout the 9 years, additional close to RM 5k interest). This can be confirmed by any VW SA. I am not VW SA and don't work in automobiles industry. Just that I went to the VW roadshow at Bkt Jalil. =)
With that said, bro zenix hows the recommendation as compared to the other 3 whose top specs City V, Mazda 2 and Elantra which would have cost more than 100k assuming 90%/100% loan, a possible more than 20k difference? Still not reckon? Any opinion on technical, performance and specs-wise? =)
I understand where you're coming from, I am just giving the general idea of how these things work thus choosing one extreme to showcase an example to let you know the worst case scenario so you can make a more informed decision, as many people when entering a showroom wouldn't know what to expect and i am afraid brainwashing by salesman would fog your decision and regret later.
But after knowing it and the salesman is able to offer you something which you think is good even after my advise then you've made a better informed decision
Elantra is always going to win the spec on paper, accessories level and exterior design but a few things to consider before buying one are RV and after sales service;
1. RV - this model has been around for sometime already look at the older ones how much is their RV now to have an indication of the drop to see if you're okay with that.
2. After sales service - the location of an authorize service center/3S is important, you don't wanna drive far away to do service or claim warranty, check on their website or with the SA on scheduled maintenance cost to see if it is something you're comfortable with.....don't buy something you cannot afford to maintain.
Alot of people give up on older Korean cars because maintenance vs RV doesn't seem justified.
Mazda 2 has the latest and best design for a b-segment car currently IMHO and it's Skyactiv engine is supposed to be as good as a Hybrid (gimmicks aside it's FC is quite good judging from previous Skyactiv models ) in terms of RV it is better nowadays since Mazda turned a corner with their new designs so maybe RV isn't a problem now as it was last time but keep in mind Mazda parts ain't always going to be cheap like Honda/Toyota if that is your basis for comparisons plus eventhough their network is growing not everywhere will have a 3s or AW.
City are Vios are usually boring choices, people usually choose them because of less headache eventhough their designs kind of boring because service network is huge and if you service outside using OEM/PI parts it is cheaper to maintain, plus RV is usually high. Though the new city has a few benefits the top spec has a really nice space age touch screen like dashboard center console....imho looks nice but abit figety when you're driving on malaysian bumpy roads, the longer wheelbase like almera is good for rear passengers so if you can't afford a c-segment this is a good choice vs almera because it has a good power to weight ratio so you never feel it is underpower.