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 [Official] Perodua Alza MPV Club V3, Car One Moment ,MPV The Next

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post Jun 30 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(stelamezie @ Jun 27 2014, 09:23 PM)
The problem is I can't read where this nut head driver from Penang (no offence penang brothers / sisters) wants to go, a minute they are 30% on left lane 70% on right lane, the next minute they sped off to the right lane then made a sharp left turn.
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It is okay.. no offence one la. I also Penang lang, but did not stay in PG. I do agree with you that some nut head not just from PG, but in Puchong+PJ also like that.

Worst case during weekend, it is like their brain is on slow mode, driving slowly in fast lane all the way. Then they also donno where they are going. I am not driving fast, in LDP, at least 70-90 la.. not 30-50. They just can't keep left.

Also, found out that why at each interchange in federal hiway or LDP, it is jam!?!? Becos another type of nut heads, coming out from interchange, must keep right one. They just force their way to the right even when it is already packed with cars. Sigh, I donno how their brain is setup?? blink.gif

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QUOTE(stelamezie @ Jun 27 2014, 09:23 PM)
The problem is I can't read where this nut head driver from Penang (no offence penang brothers / sisters) wants to go, a minute they are 30% on left lane 70% on right lane, the next minute they sped off to the right lane then made a sharp left turn.
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That nuthead driver is possibly another tourist, rented a car...

QUOTE(stelamezie @ Jun 28 2014, 09:04 PM)
Agree, I drove estima to Penang once and Johor once. Then Triton around KL area few times. Both also not my car, and it's old so I don't feel that stressful to be honest LOL.

Alza much more stressful is cause of my hard earn money XD

By the way, I know this is out of topic. But I believe Alza club member should see this, as I drove in Ipoh near by "Lou Wong Chicken Rice" restaurant area. There is a lot of so call "Parking Assistant Person" around that area giving you "assist" in your parking then they ask for RM5 - RM10 or more.

See below photo, there's a guy standing on the left of my car front wind screen? I was actually parked there then he walked to me and ask for money, of cause I refuse. He threaten to scratch my car if I do not pay up, so fine I reverse out and drove away, he actually pointed international finger at me, though my cheap car cam can't capture it clear enough.
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Parking assistant, can cause accidents one... I have seen one time, they helped a car reverse into an oncoming truck, and ran off...
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post Jun 30 2014, 12:13 PM

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Entertainment: Great, I modified the Main Screen to be able to watch Movie even in drive mode. (So that my front
passenger can do co-driver duty instead of falling asleep)


how you modify? Go to SC?
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QUOTE(ERiKoChAn @ Jun 30 2014, 12:13 PM)
Entertainment: Great, I modified the Main Screen to be able to watch Movie even in drive mode. (So that my front
passenger can do co-driver duty instead of falling asleep)
how you modify? Go to SC?
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I request my SA to do it for me before I receive my car. But please, drive safe. Even i switch on the movie, i only listen to the sound not watching the screen.
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post Jun 30 2014, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(Kiefer @ Jun 30 2014, 09:54 AM)
It is okay.. no offence one la.  I also Penang lang, but did not stay in PG.  I do agree with you that some nut head not just from PG, but in Puchong+PJ also like that.

Worst case during weekend, it is like their brain is on slow mode, driving slowly in fast lane all the way.  Then they also donno where they are going.  I am not driving fast, in LDP, at least 70-90 la.. not 30-50.  They just can't keep left.

Also, found out that why at each interchange in federal hiway or LDP, it is jam!?!?  Becos another type of nut heads, coming out from interchange, must keep right one. They just force their way to the right even when it is already packed with cars.  Sigh, I donno how their brain is setup??  blink.gif
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Agree agree, but in Klang Valley area for some reason I can read when they are going of cause some of them I couldn't read and end up had to Honk at them to wake them up.
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post Jun 30 2014, 05:05 PM

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okthanks. By the way, you play with dvd? or USB? I try usb after convertion, but it cause me lag...donno is faulty or wat

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post Jun 30 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 30 2014, 11:47 AM)
That nuthead driver is possibly another tourist, rented a car...
Parking assistant, can cause accidents one... I have seen one time, they helped a car reverse into an oncoming truck, and ran off...
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Agreed on the illegal parking assist, actually why no one take action on them? With the technology now, phone camera, cheapo china made car camera and all. I know some time is convenient for tourist, but shit do happen!
There's so many available authorized coupon seller at the shop, just a walking distance can purchase d.


Regarding on penang, maybe there is tourist from random places rented a car.
Car I still can accept, but motorcyclist I can't. In singapore motorcycle can use the road same as a car as they are not allowed to use emergency lane/clip to the lane lining. But SG motorcyclist maintain a decent speed along with the car.

In penang no, those motorcyclist out of no where rush out from a junction which almost cost accident ride out to the middle of the road with speed the slow it down to 20-30km/h. It is superduper risky actually, for car to do it at least car is big size / visible to be spot by others car.
Motorcycle is smaller, lets say when I am near to an interchange, the motorcyclist rushed out to middle of the road and blocked by my car. another car from my back which tried to overtake me may bang into the motorcyclist.

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post Jun 30 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(ERiKoChAn @ Jun 30 2014, 05:05 PM)
okthanks. By the way, you play with dvd? or USB? I try usb after convertion, but it cause me lag...donno is faulty or wat
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I am afraid it's either the USB port on the car is slow / the screen system got issue, I play movie with DVD no issue, but my music play back with my Kingston 8GB 3.0 Thumb drive always lag when I browsing the folder / shuffle music in my Alza Advance, worst some time I unable to answer voice call on bluetooth as the screen freezed, some time the screen freezed even without switching it on as the Time on screen frozen, the GPS also will freeze the screen from time to time and I had to do a hard reset.

And by the way, I though maybe the micro SD provided by Perodua was slow, so i copy and paste my GPS to my new 32GB Class 10 micro SD, the problem still exist.

Conclusion, the vendor which Perodua use to Design the screen interface and system really sucks or Perodua give low budget to them due to cost cutting.
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post Jun 30 2014, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(epsilonbuilding @ Jun 29 2014, 12:14 PM)
Hi any suggestion for add on to absorber? The alza absrber are some how too soft...
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Too soft...?

I find it too hard for my liking... whack any potholes, feels like the car gonna rip apart... those stock absorbers ain't doing their work... If you've driven a Camry before, now that's soft...
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post Jul 1 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jun 30 2014, 11:40 PM)
Too soft...?

I find it too hard for my liking... whack any potholes, feels like the car gonna rip apart... those stock absorbers ain't doing their work... If you've driven a Camry before, now that's soft...
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Can't compare apple to durian bro.
Bear in mind the suspension of alza is design to take the load from 1 passenger - 7passenger, hence the design operating window is comparatively wider than the camry suspension. assuming 70kg per pax, in camry your max load delta would be 280kg, and in alza you have the delta of 420kg. And alza is comparatively lighter than camry which make the suspension tweaking harder compared to camry. Don't forget the price you pay for the car as well.

The alza suspension is good when it's 2-4pax, it gets soft when it's fully loaded. it behave like 1st gen myvi when you throw in in the corner when fully loaded. That's my feeling on it.
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post Jul 1 2014, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(singk @ Jul 1 2014, 11:10 AM)
Can't compare apple to durian bro.
Bear in mind the suspension of alza is design to take the load from 1 passenger - 7passenger, hence the design operating window is comparatively wider than the camry suspension. assuming 70kg per pax, in camry your max load delta would be 280kg, and in alza you have the delta of 420kg. And alza is comparatively lighter than camry which make the suspension tweaking harder compared to camry. Don't forget the price you pay for the car as well.

The alza suspension is good when it's 2-4pax, it gets soft when it's fully loaded. it behave like 1st gen myvi when you throw in in the corner when fully loaded. That's my feeling on it.
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Try driving in 110km/h - 130km/h at the highway which connected LDP to Sepang fast lane. Suspension / absorber pro or cheapo type also die standing. LOL
Driving on that highway = Riding on a Speed boat on the sea in storm + windy condition. Bounce and hopping like mad rabbit.

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QUOTE(singk @ Jul 1 2014, 11:10 AM)
Can't compare apple to durian bro.
Bear in mind the suspension of alza is design to take the load from 1 passenger - 7passenger, hence the design operating window is comparatively wider than the camry suspension. assuming 70kg per pax, in camry your max load delta would be 280kg, and in alza you have the delta of 420kg. And alza is comparatively lighter than camry which make the suspension tweaking harder compared to camry. Don't forget the price you pay for the car as well.

The alza suspension is good when it's 2-4pax, it gets soft when it's fully loaded. it behave like 1st gen myvi when you throw in in the corner when fully loaded. That's my feeling on it.
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QUOTE(stelamezie @ Jul 1 2014, 04:24 PM)
Try driving in 110km/h - 130km/h at the highway which connected LDP to Sepang fast lane. Suspension / absorber pro or cheapo type also die standing. LOL
Driving on that highway = Riding on a Speed boat on the sea in storm + windy condition. Bounce and hopping like mad rabbit.
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Undulating roads aside, the Alza is still shit with the absorbers not being able to handle potholes and randomly patched roadworks... I'm not talking about the sampan effect of the Alza... If you've driven an Alza and an MyVi despite being totally different segment of cars, you'll know they both have the same problem - harsh ride on potholes and patched roadworks. Somehow Perodua cars cannot handle these kinda bumps smoothly...

If you wanna talk about sampan effect, my old XV3x Camry even more floaty - that is the meaning of soft...

Alza can sapu corner better than my old Camry... But then again absorbers are still shit not becoz of sapu corners, but becoz of the absorbers not working the way it should be... Even my Jazz absorbers do better works than MyVi absorbers... Don't lecture me about comparing Apples and Durians... Jazz and MyVi belongs to the same category, the only thing that differentiates them is that stupid tax levied on foreign cars so they can stuff their local branded killing machines up our throats...

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post Jul 1 2014, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(singk @ Jul 1 2014, 11:10 AM)
Can't compare apple to durian bro.
Bear in mind the suspension of alza is design to take the load from 1 passenger - 7passenger, hence the design operating window is comparatively wider than the camry suspension. assuming 70kg per pax, in camry your max load delta would be 280kg, and in alza you have the delta of 420kg. And alza is comparatively lighter than camry which make the suspension tweaking harder compared to camry. Don't forget the price you pay for the car as well.

The alza suspension is good when it's 2-4pax, it gets soft when it's fully loaded. it behave like 1st gen myvi when you throw in in the corner when fully loaded. That's my feeling on it.
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Can try add spring buffer to make the ride a lighter harder.

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Jul 1 2014, 05:06 PM)
Undulating roads aside, the Alza is still shit with the absorbers not being able to handle potholes and randomly patched roadworks... I'm not talking about the sampan effect of the Alza... If you've driven an Alza and an MyVi despite being totally different segment of cars, you'll know they both have the same problem - harsh ride on potholes and patched roadworks. Somehow Perodua cars cannot handle these kinda bumps smoothly...

If you wanna talk about sampan effect, my old XV3x Camry even more floaty - that is the meaning of soft...

Alza can sapu corner better than my old Camry... But then again absorbers are still shit not becoz of sapu corners, but becoz of the absorbers not working the way it should be... Even my Jazz absorbers do better works than MyVi absorbers... Don't lecture me about comparing Apples and Durians... Jazz and MyVi belongs to the same category, the only thing that differentiates them is that stupid tax levied on foreign cars so they can stuff their local branded killing machines up our throats...
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undeniable perodua cars suspension setting wasn't on par. however, the suspension performance does relates to a more complex thingy like chasis stiffness, torsional rigidity sort of stuff... you may blast that i'm trying to lecture you but let me ask you a question, will myvi suspension behave like a jazz if you stuff in the same brand? My bet is the difference is still there.
Another good example is comparing the ride & handling of a saga (BLM/FL/FLX) vs vios, same segment but still different feeling, i would vote for saga for better ride and handling. Blame it on tax again? Cheer up bro, we just can't get best of both world. I bet everyone likes to have a car with good fuel economy, good suspension, good pick up, good top speed and yet cheapo, so do i. but too bad that the rule is, you want it, you pay for it. biggrin.gif
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In either way it i, Car Mods Workshop is here in the market for a reason tongue.gif

I may consider installing Buffers despite its life span short / long, at least it helps reduce some impact on absorber.

And stupid KLIA2 car park = =, the Metal Hump so damn big some more they did not paint it in visible color, yesterday I just went through it without slowing down. Shit.
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QUOTE(singk @ Jul 2 2014, 02:02 AM)
undeniable perodua cars suspension setting wasn't on par. however, the suspension performance does relates to a more complex thingy like chasis stiffness, torsional rigidity sort of stuff... you may blast that i'm trying to lecture you but let me ask you a question, will myvi suspension behave like a jazz if you stuff in the same brand? My bet is the difference is still there.
Another good example is comparing the ride & handling of a saga (BLM/FL/FLX) vs vios, same segment but still different feeling, i would vote for saga for better ride and handling. Blame it on tax again? Cheer up bro, we just can't get best of both world. I bet everyone likes to have a car with good fuel economy, good suspension, good pick up, good top speed and yet cheapo, so do i. but too bad that the rule is, you want it, you pay for it. biggrin.gif
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Yup, count me in as I need everything yet cheapo too. brows.gif

Alza is not the best car and may not even good for some.
Yes, Alza's absorbers are soft when it may like sampan but good enough for so called comfort ride. May not be comfort for some as it may not have good handling.

Suspension wise, if big potholes, ya.. it will 'pang pang' instead of 'poop poop'. Almost like kena bang. But if the better tyres slots in with good tyre pressure (not super hard), it can handle so-so uneven / newly pathed road.
If tyre pressure is hard, i will be dancing 'gang-bxng style' in the car going thru this roads. sweat.gif

As long as the car not giving me much problems and served me as RM50k+ value.. nothing much i can request.

QUOTE(stelamezie @ Jul 2 2014, 08:12 AM)
In either way it i, Car Mods Workshop is here in the market for a reason tongue.gif

I may consider installing Buffers despite its life span short / long, at least it helps reduce some impact on absorber.

And stupid KLIA2 car park = =, the Metal Hump so damn big some more they did not paint it in visible color, yesterday I just went through it without slowing down. Shit.
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With your case of having so many ppl in the car, add in the buffer should helps.
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post Jul 2 2014, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(chicken7 @ Jul 1 2014, 09:43 PM)
Can try add spring buffer to make the ride a lighter harder.
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Could anyone suggest on WHERE to get that absorber buffer installed in Puchong?
I call up the SC in PUCHONG (Both Puchong Jaya and the Bkt Puchong) but they only offer to add the buzzer sound, no option to order buffer from them.

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post Jul 2 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(stelamezie @ Jul 2 2014, 08:12 AM)
In either way it i, Car Mods Workshop is here in the market for a reason tongue.gif

I may consider installing Buffers despite its life span short / long, at least it helps reduce some impact on absorber.

And stupid KLIA2 car park = =, the Metal Hump so damn big some more they did not paint it in visible color, yesterday I just went through it without slowing down. Shit.
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ramp through a hump without slowing down = ouch.
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post Jul 2 2014, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(singk @ Jul 2 2014, 10:09 AM)
ramp through a hump without slowing down = ouch.
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I know! And I was focusing on looking for a car park space >< Damn, I think i was driving 20-30km/h as I was late for my appointment.
below are how to Hump looks like, freaking Height.

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They should have paint it in visible colors to people can notice it! It's every where in KLIA 2 carpark ><

Any way as a Bonus photo, well done myvi!

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Hybrid Myvi parked at Hybrid car park space XD

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QUOTE(epsilonbuilding @ Jul 2 2014, 09:22 AM)
Could anyone suggest on WHERE to get that absorber buffer installed in Puchong?
I call up the SC in PUCHONG (Both Puchong Jaya and the Bkt Puchong) but they only offer to add the buzzer sound, no option to order buffer from them.
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The Perodua Segambut branch said they can offer this service to me with additional workmanship charges actually. I prefer to let them install since the absorber / suspension still under warranty, don't want later after install and some shit happen to the absorber on the road, went back to claim have trouble.

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