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nick67
post Dec 16 2013, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(mayonnaiseeeee @ Dec 15 2013, 10:12 PM)
P1 Sheila from Elit.
P3 Michael Mainwaring's Taught Course + IRC is sufficient.

i studied my p1 under sheila. she was able to covered about 25 pyq (if i remember correctly. i guess more than that). cases were discussed in detail. i think that's really important. anyone doing acca would recognise the importance of getting familiar with the pyq. but i believe she has covered more than the syllabus. the only drawback as long as i'm considered. so her notes is thick but after all well organised. she's helpful and very kind.

as for p3, i did mine with parminder. honestly not to my liking. but it really depends. lots of them said he's good and that's also why i picked him. he never discuss pyq. his notes is unorganised. messy. and also, okay, this is my feeling. for me he tends to beat around the bush with everything. i don't know. but some people really enjoy i guess. sometimes it's really frustrating because i got to rush to his class after work knowing there're works piled high on my desk and that day he'd discuss just 3-5 pages maybe.

i then attended michael's irc for p3 because i wasn't confident in passing the paper. his teaching is good. his note is good. i've learnt a lot, really a lot, in just 3 days, amazing. i didn't know he got something called taught course. otherwise i'd go. i'm very sure his 4 days taught course (4 days i guess) can cover whole syllabus. because he could cover all important topics in the 3 days irc i attended besides discussing cases and exam techniques. so i'm sure he can do a lot more with the another 4 days.

but i need to know about p2. any info on p2? comments on lecturers? thanks!
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I've been under Menon for P2. Well, I didn't really like her because she was super strict and the hours could be too long for me. But, I did pass P2 under her. She really knows her stuffs and her notes are very complete. Also, being a P2 lecturer for so long I think she only missed her predictions once so far. That was the sem that Sunway's P2 pass rates dropped. Says a lot about her experience. I'd recommend her especially if you're hardworking.


Oh and she covers a crazy amount of PYQs especially during her revision class. Sometimes the revision could end as late as 10pm. But no complains because she is also sacrificing her time to help us.

QUOTE(oOoproz @ Dec 16 2013, 04:31 AM)
P2 and P3 next sem... Should I take p3 after result?? what do u think? I scare i can't catch up only
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Why take after results? Is there a purpose or just want to take an extra 2 months break? I'm pretty sure P3 wouldn't be a problem to catch up. It's mostly theory which you can get by reading the textbook. Classes aren't even a must for this subject in my opinion.

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post Dec 16 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(nick67 @ Dec 16 2013, 11:16 AM)
Why take after results? Is there a purpose or just want to take an extra 2 months break? I'm pretty sure P3 wouldn't be a problem to catch up. It's mostly theory which you can get by reading the textbook. Classes aren't even a must for this subject in my opinion.
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Wait a second, you mean can we self-study for P3? But I heard it is the most difficult paper among P1, P2 and P3 hmm.gif
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post Dec 16 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Dec 16 2013, 11:21 AM)
Wait a second, you mean can we self-study for P3? But I heard it is the most difficult paper among P1, P2 and P3  hmm.gif
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Oh no my friend, for me its P2 which is the killer. Not because its difficult. But because the amount of things we need to cover in the syllabus. Ms Menon has showed me how the examiner can ask even the most minute detail in any standard. Seriously, its almost as if if you didn't know the standard thoroughly you would get caught there. Of course, you can just study tips and pray it comes out, but to play it safe you would have to cover everything inside and out which is not easy.

For P3, I only studied about 1-2 weeks before finals because I was focusing on P2. I ended up passing P3 (although in the 50s). P3 is mostly theory. Just keep writing and you'll be fine. I didn't even mention a single model in my exam.

Maybe for other people P3 might be more difficult. From my own experience, this is not the case.
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post Dec 16 2013, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(nick67 @ Dec 16 2013, 11:47 AM)
Oh no my friend, for me its P2 which is the killer. Not because its difficult. But because the amount of things we need to cover in the syllabus. Ms Menon has showed me how the examiner can ask even the most minute detail in any standard. Seriously, its almost as if if you didn't know the standard thoroughly you would get caught there. Of course, you can just study tips and pray it comes out, but to play it safe you would have to cover everything inside and out which is not easy.

For P3, I only studied about 1-2 weeks before finals because I was focusing on P2. I ended up passing P3 (although in the 50s). P3 is mostly theory. Just keep writing and you'll be fine. I didn't even mention a single model in my exam.

Maybe for other people P3 might be more difficult. From my own experience, this is not the case.
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Lets see how it goes for me then!
I personally like P2 since I prefer number than words laugh.gif
Since I have taken an early start, I hope I don't mess up later in this sitting!!!
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post Dec 16 2013, 06:50 PM

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any comment on Martin Windle @ FTMS and Philip Woo @ Ellitejaya?
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post Dec 16 2013, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(nick67 @ Dec 16 2013, 11:47 AM)
Oh no my friend, for me its P2 which is the killer. Not because its difficult. But because the amount of things we need to cover in the syllabus. Ms Menon has showed me how the examiner can ask even the most minute detail in any standard. Seriously, its almost as if if you didn't know the standard thoroughly you would get caught there. Of course, you can just study tips and pray it comes out, but to play it safe you would have to cover everything inside and out which is not easy.

For P3, I only studied about 1-2 weeks before finals because I was focusing on P2. I ended up passing P3 (although in the 50s). P3 is mostly theory. Just keep writing and you'll be fine. I didn't even mention a single model in my exam.

Maybe for other people P3 might be more difficult. From my own experience, this is not the case.
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Any of your classmates under Menon for P2 had been doing BPP practice questions? Is that necessary?
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post Dec 16 2013, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(imbenji @ Dec 16 2013, 06:50 PM)
any comment on Martin Windle @ FTMS and Philip Woo @ Ellitejaya?
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Gonna take P3 from Marty in this sitting. Heard a lot of positive stuff from my friends and even watching his tips on youtube made me curious to go to his class.
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post Dec 16 2013, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(CLian @ Dec 16 2013, 06:56 PM)
Any of your classmates under Menon for P2 had been doing BPP practice questions? Is that necessary?
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What do you mean? Are you asking if extra practice (BPP) is necessary if you are under Menon? No definitely not. Never heard any of my friends do that. I'd be surprised if you had extra time to do BPP questions as well unless you are very hardworking and if that's the case, by all means do so. smile.gif
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Sorry if its inappropriate to ask something on A-Levels accounting here.

http://www.cie.org.uk/images/93127-2014-syllabus.pdf

According to page 23, part (ii) of the link, I don't understand the part of the last sentence.

"[Uses NPBI – Net Profit before interest, i.e. add back interest ]"

Can someone explain the bold-ed part?
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post Dec 16 2013, 08:00 PM

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any comment on Peter Thoo (P4,P5) and Andrew Pang (P4) in KSA?
going to take P4 and P5 for next sitting ><
any recommended lecturer for this 2 paper? ^^
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post Dec 16 2013, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Screen @ Dec 16 2013, 07:42 PM)
Sorry if its inappropriate to ask something on A-Levels accounting here.

http://www.cie.org.uk/images/93127-2014-syllabus.pdf

According to page 23, part (ii) of the link, I don't understand the part of the last sentence.

"[Uses NPBI – Net Profit before interest, i.e. add back interest ]"

Can someone explain the bold-ed part?
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Revenues
GROSS REVENUES (including INTEREST income) xxxxx
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Expenses:
ADVERTISING xxxx
BANK & CREDIT CARD FEES xxx
BOOKKEEPING xxx
SUBCONTRACTORS xxx
ENTERTAINMENT xxx
INSURANCE xxx
LEGAL & PROFESSIONAL SERVICES xxx
LICENSES xxx
PRINTING, POSTAGE & STATIONERY xxx
RENT xxxx
MATERIALS xxxx
TELEPHONE xxxx
UTILITIES xxxx
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TOTAL EXPENSES (xxxxx)
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Net Profit before Interest and Tax xxxxx
Interest (xxx)
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Net Profit Before Tax xxxx


This is your pro forma for the profit and loss account. Here, as you can see, after deducting all the expenses we get the Net Profit before Interest and tax. So if we have a Net Profit after Interest and Tax, for getting back to Net Profit before Interest And Tax, simply add back the Interest and Tax to come to PBIT!!!!
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post Dec 16 2013, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(nick67 @ Dec 16 2013, 07:02 PM)
What do you mean? Are you asking if extra practice (BPP) is necessary if you are under Menon? No definitely not. Never heard any of my friends do that. I'd be surprised if you had extra time to do BPP questions as well unless you are very hardworking and if that's the case, by all means do so. smile.gif
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I see i see.

Because i have just done the f7, f8 & f9 final in the recent sitting. For f7, i wouldnt have time for BPP questions, while for f8 & f9, i managed to do them.

Btw, what about P1 & P3? I will b under Mr Goh & Mr Dineesh.
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It appears that we have someone here to 'hard-sell' marty and tom.

I believe that there is NOT one 'best' lecturer. This will backfire.

A lecturer will help in the progress of learning and studying. Ultimately, it depends on individuals' effort.






QUOTE(donizback @ Dec 16 2013, 06:58 PM)
Gonna take P3 from Marty in this sitting. Heard a lot of positive stuff from my friends and even watching his tips on youtube made me curious to go to his class.
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post Dec 16 2013, 11:23 PM

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I thought so as well. They may be good. But other lecturers are comparatively good and may be better.

It is never which lecturer is 'the best' but it is whether he/she is 'suitable' for individual student.

This forum is to discuss geniune issues relating to ACCA instead of use for free-marketing for lecturers. rclxm9.gif




QUOTE(Olivertan888 @ Dec 16 2013, 10:55 PM)
It appears that we have someone here to 'hard-sell' marty and tom.

I believe that there is NOT one 'best' lecturer. This will backfire.

A lecturer will help in the progress of learning and studying. Ultimately, it depends on individuals' effort.
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post Dec 16 2013, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(Olivertan888 @ Dec 16 2013, 10:55 PM)
It appears that we have someone here to 'hard-sell' marty and tom.

I believe that there is NOT one 'best' lecturer. This will backfire.

A lecturer will help in the progress of learning and studying. Ultimately, it depends on individuals' effort.
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Well well well, I was expecting someone to write to me as regards to this lol and it happened to be you biggrin.gif

Nick and I has already debated about it 3 or 4 months back so I won't really say a lot this time.

I agree that the lecturer is just to guide us and it is student's effort to do something great in the exam. However, the lecturer plays a very important role in the student's studies. I shall give my example here, I studied F7 under Mr. Lim Bee Khaim and it was a disaster. Yes a total disaster. He was unfriendly, couldn't explain properly in the class etc. Studied F8 under Joey Wong, didn't hear a lot of good opinions from my seniors about him but I enjoyed his class since he could answer my questions and we used to debate sometimes in the class as well.

So concluding, even though only the student's effort would help him pass the paper but the lecturer can make the paper so much easy and interesting and yup Tom and Marty can certainly make the papers easy. This isn't what I am saying, this is what Kaplan Financial students say on their forums about Tom and those pages/groups on fb say about Marty!

Hope you got my point! Its not that I am marketing(even you know who I am lol) for these lecturer but I want all the students to benefit from the Legends.
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QUOTE(Wmar @ Dec 16 2013, 11:23 PM)
I thought so as well. They may be good. But other lecturers are comparatively good and may be better.

It is never which lecturer is 'the best' but it is whether he/she is 'suitable' for individual student.

This forum is to discuss geniune issues relating to ACCA instead of use for free-marketing for lecturers.  rclxm9.gif
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Hello hello Mr. You went a bit too far there! No one is marketing for the lecturers for your kind information. Is there any lecturer of P2 capable of writing exam articles? If yes, then why isn't he doing so lol

Yeah I know I lack professional behavior but indirectly calling me that I am marketing for lecturer doesn't make sense even though you know very well about me!!!!!
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QUOTE(nick67 @ Dec 16 2013, 11:16 AM)
I've been under Menon for P2. Well, I didn't really like her because she was super strict and the hours could be too long for me. But, I did pass P2 under her. She really knows her stuffs and her notes are very complete. Also, being a P2 lecturer for so long I think she only missed her predictions once so far. That was the sem that Sunway's P2 pass rates dropped. Says a lot about her experience. I'd recommend her especially if you're hardworking.

Oh and she covers a crazy amount of PYQs especially during her revision class. Sometimes the revision could end as late as 10pm. But no complains because she is also sacrificing her time to help us.
Why take after results? Is there a purpose or just want to take an extra 2 months break? I'm pretty sure P3 wouldn't be a problem to catch up. It's mostly theory which you can get by reading the textbook. Classes aren't even a must for this subject in my opinion.
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yes menon but sunway is too far. but i'm still thinking. i've narrowed my choices down to 2, either joe fang or menon. struggling. i'm curious to know the fastest conso method by joe fang. hahaha. nick, thank you very much for telling me about menon. i like lecturers who crazily cover pyq. lol.

hello people please actively share lecturers' teaching style. i'm sure it's in high demand now. lol.

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post Dec 17 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(CLian @ Dec 16 2013, 10:24 PM)
I see i see.

Because i have just done the f7, f8 & f9 final in the recent sitting. For f7, i wouldnt have time for BPP questions, while for f8 & f9, i managed to do them.

Btw, what about P1 & P3? I will b under Mr Goh & Mr Dineesh.
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P1 and P3 are heavily based on theory. Mr Goh's style is to read the textbook and elaborate all the points in there. He says he is afraid student who just memorize the textbook couldn't elaborate in exam so he elaborates all the points. So basically you'll be writing down everything he dictates which may be rather excessive. He will be confident in giving tips, claiming its 100% accurate and that he guarantees it. Take it with a pinch of salt because his predictions were completely off for my sem. Also he is a family man so sometimes he may be a little late in the morning because dropping his kids to school tongue.gif

Mr Dinesh, brother of Ms Menon but totally opposite character..Sometimes I find him a little lazy. And its boring so I always space out in class. Oh and sometimes he pretends he is super strict and just call you out for the littlest thing that you do such as highlighting while he's talking. Don't be late for his class unless you are prepared to be embarrassed in front of everyone else.

All in all, with these 2 papers you could do a lot by reading the textbook yourself because its essentially what they do in class.

QUOTE(mayonnaiseeeee @ Dec 17 2013, 12:01 AM)
yes menon but sunway is too far. but i'm still thinking. i've narrowed my choices down to 2, either joe fang or menon. struggling. i'm curious to know the fastest conso method by joe fang. hahaha. nick, thank you very much for telling me about menon. i like lecturers who crazily cover pyq. lol.

hello people please actively share lecturers' teaching style. i'm sure it's in high demand now. lol.
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Ms Menon claims her conso method is the fastest and that no one else on the market is able to match her method. I truly believe this and she made it pretty easy to follow the steps (what to look out for, which figures go where, which needs adjustments etc). She's really good if you can handle the stress of being in her class. She's fierce in front of the class but when you see her face to face she's really nice and friendly. She stays back a while after class so that students can ask her questions. Most importantly, her tips are awesome.
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post Dec 17 2013, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(nick67 @ Dec 17 2013, 10:49 AM)
Ms Menon claims her conso method is the fastest and that no one else on the market is able to match her method. I truly believe this and she made it pretty easy to follow the steps (what to look out for, which figures go where, which needs adjustments etc). She's really good if you can handle the stress of being in her class. She's fierce in front of the class but when you see her face to face she's really nice and friendly. She stays back a while after class so that students can ask her questions. Most importantly, her tips are awesome.
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Have you seen Martin Jones conso method? That one looks kinda straight forward. I don't know how Ms Menon teaches however, I am studying under Martin and practicing the basic conso questions of P2 which roughly takes me 20 mins to finish the question by using his method hmm.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Dec 17 2013, 11:07 AM)
Have you seen Martin Jones conso method? That one looks kinda straight forward. I don't know how Ms Menon teaches however, I am studying under Martin and practicing the basic conso questions of P2 which roughly takes me 20 mins to finish the question by using his method  hmm.gif
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Nope, Ms Menon's one works for me so I didn't bother to look elsewhere. If you are happy with Martin's one I suggest you just stick to it. Looking at other lecturer's method may confuse you.

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