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post Dec 17 2013, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(nick67 @ Dec 17 2013, 11:21 AM)
Nope, Ms Menon's one works for me so I didn't bother to look elsewhere. If you are happy with Martin's one I suggest you just stick to it. Looking at other lecturer's method may confuse you.
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I like his method since it is fast and efficient. I have to see Tom's method as well so then only would assess which one is better!!!
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post Dec 17 2013, 01:49 PM

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i see.

Thanks again, bro. icon_rolleyes.gif

U have cleared all your papers?

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QUOTE(donizback @ Dec 16 2013, 11:55 PM)
Well well well, I was expecting someone to write to me as regards to this lol and it happened to be you biggrin.gif

Nick and I has already debated about it 3 or 4 months back so I won't really say a lot this time.

I agree that the lecturer is just to guide us and it is student's effort to do something great in the exam. However, the lecturer plays a very important role in the student's studies. I shall give my example here, I studied F7 under Mr. Lim Bee Khaim and it was a disaster. Yes a total disaster. He was unfriendly, couldn't explain properly in the class etc. Studied F8 under Joey Wong, didn't hear a lot of good opinions from my seniors about him but I enjoyed his class since he could answer my questions and we used to debate sometimes in the class as well.

So concluding, even though only the student's effort would help him pass the paper but the lecturer can make the paper so much easy and interesting and yup Tom and Marty can certainly make the papers easy. This isn't what I am saying, this is what Kaplan Financial students say on their forums about Tom and those pages/groups on fb say about Marty!

Hope you got my point! Its not that I am marketing(even you know who I am lol) for these lecturer but I want all the students to benefit from the Legends.
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Thought you said your F7 is under Spencer, now becomes Lim Bee Khiam! rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(IMF @ Dec 17 2013, 02:43 PM)
Thought you said your F7 is under Spencer, now becomes Lim Bee Khiam!  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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I never said my F7 was under Spencer lol I would have better self-studied for it laugh.gif
I said, in an earlier post, that my friend was under spencer who told me that he ignores the questions asked my him! He is of my best friends and my senior and we discuss a lot on these issues nod.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Dec 17 2013, 03:28 PM)
I never said my F7 was under Spencer lol I would have better self-studied for it laugh.gif
I said, in an earlier post, that my friend was under spencer who told me that he ignores the questions asked my him! He is of my best friends and my senior and we discuss a lot on these issues  nod.gif
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laugh.gif you are a REAL JOKE. LOOK at your own post on this link https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2278491/+2860

Post number 2860. You clearly stated "I was taught F7 by Spencer ...." So either you have temporary memory loss, permanent head damage.

Btw it's interesting that your post seems to promote FTMS a lot, especially the white guy, left me wondering why do these white guy here in Msia, is it they r being rejected in UK so no choice ended up here in Msia. cry.gif cry.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 06:10 PM

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I will not consider Ms Menon method as the fastest method, but
once you mastered her method, you are unlikely to loss any marks from consolidation part: she has considered any situation that will be happened in the future exam question. What you need to do, is only look at the requirement, think about the adjustment and do according to the method.

If I not mistaken, i scored almost full marks in 2012 Dec group account,
but the discursive question took me so many time, at the end i unable to finish 15~18% and still helped me to scored 67%.

I heard from my friends that Ms Menon facing time constraint recently (due to her health problem also, hope she get well soon), but she still try her best effort to cover the "P2" part as she could.

Yes, u got the key word. She only able to cover the addition topic to P2 syllabus but not the P2 whole. It means you have to be the master of F7 , and develop your analytical skill and understanding the implication of standards.


I attempted the 2013 Dec question recently, i feel the cash flow is full of info but the examiner has actually done his effort to include alot of "cash" information which reduce the time spend on formulate the T acc.

I feel the examiner is going to test the candidates not only the knowledge/application of IFRSs/IASs, but also the ability to construct information from raw data sea. Besides that, on my sitting onward, he also tend to test the ability of candidate on understand and elaborate the rationale of the established standard requirement.

for example:
Why RA must be higher of VIU and FV-Cost to sell
Why the criteria of IFRS 5:Assets held for sale focus on probability to make the sale?

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post Dec 17 2013, 06:12 PM

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hi, I am actually in dilemma right now on whether I should take up P1 & P2 while waiting for my results for F7,8 & 9...Just worried that I might fail my F7 & 9 though...

Any good advice, seniors? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 06:49 PM

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Take P2 class. If fail first attempt, can re-sit in future together with other papers. Lol!! Just go for Michael's P3 3-days revision class n you will pass. P1 self-stdy.
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post Dec 17 2013, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(IMF @ Dec 17 2013, 03:42 PM)
laugh.gif you are a REAL JOKE. LOOK at your own post on this link https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2278491/+2860

Post number 2860. You clearly stated "I was taught F7 by Spencer ...." So either you have temporary memory loss, permanent head damage.

Btw it's interesting that your post seems to promote FTMS a lot, especially the white guy, left me wondering why do these white guy here in Msia, is it they r being rejected in UK so no choice ended up here in Msia.  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Well in that post, it wasn't me and I didn't post that and I recently called my friend who said that he used my account on a number of occasions.

My posts doesn't promote FTMS but rather promote the white lecturers since they are far far better than lecturers found here lol rclxub.gif

You think Tom was rejected in the UK after teaching for more than 25 years in there? Written so many technical articles which can still be found in the ACCAGlobal website. He has been awarded by PQ Magazine in 2009 if I am not mistaken, do you think anyone here is capable of it? whistling.gif

Here, in this world, there are still people who care about Humanity unlike you who is so silly to think that those people are rejected in the UK and they resettle themselves in M'sia. Its not always about making money dude, sometimes its about caring and helping others!

Listen Mr. IMF, whoever you are, seems like you have quite close relationships with Spencer so no need to post anything as regards to him here alright. If he is such a great guy then why do he need so much of marketing from you doh.gif
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post Dec 17 2013, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(pynic @ Dec 17 2013, 06:12 PM)
hi, I am actually in dilemma right now on whether I should take up P1 & P2 while waiting for my results for F7,8 & 9...Just worried that I might fail my F7 & 9 though...

Any good advice, seniors?  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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P1 is quiet easy and the syllabus is very narrow. I have been waiting for my results of my final 3 Fundamentals and has started studying for P1, P2 and P3 in the meantime. Guess what, I have done around 60% of the syllabus(of course didn't practice any questions) in just 10 days. So I don't really think P1 would be a problem for you. And if you wish not to study, it doesn't really matter.

As regards to P2, yup start it now from today onward. The syllabus is huge and there are some tricky points. Start your studies by doing Consolidation and by the time classes commence, you should be able to understand and pick stuff easily.
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post Dec 17 2013, 10:21 PM

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Hey guys, so I just finished my accounting degree at INTI Nilai (collab with Uni. of Hertfordshire) and am seriously thinking about taking ACCA at either INTI subang or Sunway.

I've seen a lot of other places offering ACCA as well, like Kasturi and such and was wondering what these places are all about? Are these like tuition centres and do I need to take lessons from a few different places for different papers?

Hope someone will be able to answer my questions. Any suggestions and answers to clear my doubts would be extremely helpful. Thanks.
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post Dec 17 2013, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(JusTaTin @ Dec 17 2013, 10:21 PM)
Hey guys, so I just finished my accounting degree at INTI Nilai (collab with Uni. of Hertfordshire) and am seriously thinking about taking ACCA at either INTI subang or Sunway.

I've seen a lot of other places offering ACCA as well, like Kasturi and such and was wondering what these places are all about? Are these like tuition centres and do I need to take lessons from a few different places for different papers?

Hope someone will be able to answer my questions. Any suggestions and answers to clear my doubts would be extremely helpful. Thanks.
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Those are tuition providers. ACCA is flexible in the sense that you can go anywhere (or don't go) to study and take the exams.

All those you mention are tuition providers. Some are smaller ones such as Kasturi.
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post Dec 18 2013, 02:17 AM

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Hi IMF,

I somehow agree with you.

Just wondering the reason (or motive) that this active forum-er is actively promoting them.

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QUOTE(IMF @ Dec 17 2013, 03:42 PM)
laugh.gif you are a REAL JOKE. LOOK at your own post on this link https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2278491/+2860

Post number 2860. You clearly stated "I was taught F7 by Spencer ...." So either you have temporary memory loss, permanent head damage.

Btw it's interesting that your post seems to promote FTMS a lot, especially the white guy, left me wondering why do these white guy here in Msia, is it they r being rejected in UK so no choice ended up here in Msia.  cry.gif  cry.gif
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post Dec 18 2013, 02:43 AM

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Wow….amazing!. You are so informed about them.

I do agree that there are good lecturers from UK. However, when one is able to produce research articles does not mean that he/she is able to lecture well or is suitable for all students. By the way, I am not saying that they are bad.

However, please DO NOT discount the local lecturers. There were students taught by local lecturers in China, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Hanoi etc. who scored much better than and/or scored much higher pass rate than those UK lecturers.

Skin color does not differentiate the ability of one to another.

I am not a student of Spencer. However, there are reasons for Spencer to be a lecturer who drawing a good crowd. biggrin.gif

Despite the fact that there are many UK tuition providers cutting their lecturers, we cannot conclude that those lecturers being made-left voluntarily are rejected there. flex.gif

But, it is bad taste to market them in such a way that they are 'far far superior' than the local lecturers. hmm.gif




QUOTE(donizback @ Dec 17 2013, 07:19 PM)
Well in that post, it wasn't me and I didn't post that and I recently called my friend who said that he used my account on a number of occasions.

My posts doesn't promote FTMS but rather promote the white lecturers since they are far far better than lecturers found here lol  rclxub.gif

You think Tom was rejected in the UK after teaching for more than 25 years in there? Written so many technical articles which can still be found in the ACCAGlobal website. He has been awarded by PQ Magazine in 2009 if I am not mistaken, do you think anyone here is capable of it?  whistling.gif

Here, in this world, there are still people who care about Humanity unlike you who is so silly to think that those people are rejected in the UK and they resettle themselves in M'sia. Its not always about making money dude, sometimes its about caring and helping others!

Listen Mr. IMF, whoever you are, seems like you have quite close relationships with Spencer so no need to post anything as regards to him here alright. If he is such a great guy then why do he need so much of marketing from you  doh.gif
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post Dec 18 2013, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(Wmar @ Dec 18 2013, 02:43 AM)
Wow….amazing!. You are so informed about them.

I do agree that there are good lecturers from UK. However, when one is able to produce research articles does not mean that he/she is able to lecture well or is suitable for all students. By the way, I am not saying that they are bad.

However, please DO NOT discount the local lecturers. There were students taught by local lecturers in China, Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, Hanoi etc. who scored much better than and/or scored much higher pass rate than those UK lecturers.

Skin color does not differentiate the ability of one to another.

I am not a student of Spencer. However, there are reasons for Spencer to be a lecturer who drawing a good crowd. biggrin.gif

Despite the fact that there are many UK tuition providers cutting their lecturers, we cannot conclude that those lecturers being made-left voluntarily are rejected there.  flex.gif

But, it is bad taste to market them in such a way that they are 'far far superior' than the local lecturers. hmm.gif
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I am not informed about them but I keep myself up-to-date and have enough knowledge to debate with different people. I have always been saying stuff about Francis Braganzia, Rob Sowerby, Martin Jones etc. who would never be coming to M'sia and they are really some awesome lecturers.

I didn't say that local lecturers are nothing rather my point was that how can you compare the local non-native English speakers with the Natives and then saying that locals are better!!!!! I know many of the M'sians prefer the local lecturers because of their accent which is easier to understand. As regards to scoring better and having a better pass rate, this is nothing to praise them since passing is all the effort of the student. The lecturer can just make the topic easier to understand.

Firstly, I don't agree with you that UK lecturers have lower pass rates as compared to the local ones. But just assume it is, then the reason behind it is that many people here find it difficult to understand the UK accent. I have done some research and I have got to know that students,in schools, are taught the American Accent and that vary quite a lot and many students aren't even good in English and are used to BROKEN English.

Well if Spencer was that great, then he shouldn't have been ignoring questions asked by my friend so I highly doubt his qualities. Rather I would love to give the example of Joey Wong here,under whom I studied F8. He marked more than 50 answers I did and submitted to him every week. He never said that he is busy or anything. He answered all the questions I asked in class and some of them were kinda silly as well. He NEVER ignored!!! Then why did Spencer? whistling.gif

Okay do me a favor, take one of your local lecturer, lets take Spencer since everyone is in LOVE with him and do a simple comparison of his performance in F9 with Elliot Betts and conclude who is better!

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post Dec 18 2013, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(misskucen @ Dec 17 2013, 06:49 PM)
Take P2 class. If fail first attempt, can re-sit in future together with other papers. Lol!! Just go for Michael's P3 3-days revision class n you will pass. P1 self-stdy.
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Thanks for the advice! but if I fail F7 I am worried that I won't be able to catch up with P2 cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif



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post Dec 18 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(donizback @ Dec 17 2013, 07:26 PM)
P1 is quiet easy and the syllabus is very narrow. I have been waiting for my results of my final 3 Fundamentals and has started studying for P1, P2 and P3 in the meantime. Guess what, I have done around 60% of the syllabus(of course didn't practice any questions) in just 10 days. So I don't really think P1 would be a problem for you. And if you wish not to study, it doesn't really matter.

As regards to P2, yup start it now from today onward. The syllabus is huge and there are some tricky points. Start your studies by doing Consolidation and by the time classes commence, you should be able to understand and pick stuff easily.
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I guess my problem is that I am unsure with my results of F7 & F9...after all I am just an average student.Let's say if I fail both the papers, taking P2 might along might be a little heavy to me sweat.gif rclxub.gif

and actually considering whether to take OBU as well...

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post Dec 18 2013, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(pynic @ Dec 18 2013, 09:47 AM)
I guess my problem is that I am unsure with my results of F7 & F9...after all I am just an average student.Let's say if I fail both the papers, taking P2 might along might be a little heavy to me  sweat.gif  rclxub.gif

and actually considering whether to take OBU as well...
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Well Pray as much as you can laugh.gif
Both of these papers are not difficult and its not difficult to pass F7.

Lets say you only fail 1 paper(hope you don't), if it is F7 then don't think about P2 but if it is F9 then you have to go for P2 since you have got some basics in F7 which are likely to help you in P2. It took me 1 week to revise all the consolidation since I forgot so much of it sad.gif

I hope you can pass all the papers you attempted this sitting. Best of Luck for the results icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 18 2013, 10:22 AM

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Is this the lecturer you say don't care about his student?
www.spencercheah.com

He has a website to provide e learning support for his student.
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post Dec 18 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(IMF @ Dec 18 2013, 10:22 AM)
Is this the lecturer you say don't care about his student?
www.spencercheah.com

He has a website to provide e learning support for his student.
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Then why does he ignore students' queries?

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