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post Feb 11 2014, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 11 2014, 05:42 PM)
Seriously 4.5m x 4.5m still can fit in 1hp?

Die die must go for 1.5hp and no regret.

You just telling us, you driving kancil 660cc and fit in 5 adults and try to pull till end of accelerator to when up hill.
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sorry for noob question blush.gif

i got 2 rooms need to install aircon, one masterbed room about 12ft++ x 11ft++ x height not sure, 1 adult, window didnt exposed to sun all day, 1HP is sufficient? or i need to go for 1.5HP?

another room is 9.5ft++ x 7ft++ x height not sure, facing west, sunlight come in from window on afternoon until evening, will be insulated with curtain and tint film, 1 adult. 1HP is enough, right?

ME inverter vs york inverter, overall ME is better? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ivan92 @ Feb 11 2014, 08:55 PM)
sorry for noob question blush.gif

i got 2 rooms need to install aircon, one masterbed room about 12ft++ x 11ft++ x height not sure, 1 adult, window didnt exposed to sun all day, 1HP is sufficient? or i need to go for 1.5HP?

another room is 9.5ft++ x 7ft++ x height not sure, facing west, sunlight come in from window on afternoon until evening, will be insulated with curtain and tint film, 1 adult. 1HP is enough, right?

ME inverter vs york inverter, overall ME is better? hmm.gif
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Anywhere your room size still able to install 1hp inverter unit.

ME definitely is better than York
Once is imported and one is local made.

If you install 1.5hp really overkill.

Unless your room size really bigger than 5m x 5m x 3m Height then go for 1.5hp.
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QUOTE(vicbro_95 @ Feb 11 2014, 06:53 PM)
bro,your room size is 15X15 feet right...almost like mine...must use 1.5HP...haha...if you put 1HP inverter definitely not enough...mine also take like 10-15minutes to get it cool down to temperature 25Deg...but once it is on 25Deg,you'll feel comfortable...
I agree totally with you...
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Bro thanks for your reply, i come home and remeasure and my dad even told me my room is 12 feet x 12 feet x 11 feet... do i still need 1.5HP?

QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 11 2014, 07:51 PM)
Why not try to get York inverter?
You didn't compare the indoor & outdoor design was almost same and only York inverter does not built in eye motion to capture human in bedroom or leaving the room to increase 1 more deg only.
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Kimsim, i dont understand why york and not daikin? and you mention york did not build in eye motion to capture human in bedroom,
and daikin does? what is the disadvantages of that?


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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 11 2014, 09:06 PM)
Anywhere your room size still able to install 1hp inverter unit.

ME definitely is better than York
Once is imported and one is local made.

If you install 1.5hp really overkill.

Unless your room size really bigger than 5m x 5m x 3m Height then go for 1.5hp.
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thanks, hopefully can get good price for ME aircon from the shop smile.gif
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 09:49 PM)
Bro thanks for your reply, i come home and remeasure and my dad even told me my room is 12 feet x 12 feet x 11 feet... do i still need 1.5HP?
Kimsim, i dont understand why york and not daikin? and you mention york did not build in eye motion to capture human in bedroom,
and daikin does? what is the disadvantages of that?
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York is under daikin company and sharing same technology from daikin low budget design and cut cost for without eye motion in York Y Series inverter.

These is same like Toyota = Daikin
Perodua = York
But both also have passo or Myvi right.

From here if you can't understand then go for google it out notworthy.gif

Just noted that Daikin compressor using E-Scoll type & York compressor use DC Rotary type.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 11 2014, 10:31 PM
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post Feb 11 2014, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 11 2014, 10:11 PM)
York is under daikin company and sharing same technology from daikin low budget design and cut cost for eye motion in York Y Series inverter.

These is same like Toyota = Daikin vs Perodua = York
But both also have passo or Myvi right.

From here if you can't understand then go for google it out notworthy.gif

Just noted that Daikin compressor using E-Scoll type & York compressor use DC Rotary type.
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yea i understand you... but ur statement kinda wrong is it? on the 1st paragraph u said daikin is low budget and york is toyota

and 2nd paragraph mention daikin is toyota and york is perodua

this confuse me... which 1 is toyota actually? =.=
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Feb 11 2014, 10:17 PM)
yea  i understand you... but ur statement kinda wrong is it? on the 1st paragraph u said daikin is low budget and york is toyota

and 2nd paragraph mention daikin is toyota and york is perodua

this confuse me... which 1 is toyota actually? =.=
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Haiya

Daikin = Toyota la...lol

Where got worldwide company worst than malaysia smaller peanut company.

Anywhere if you wanna know more thier feature and power input watt, just go to 1st page and viewing the data sheet.

This post has been edited by kimsim: Feb 11 2014, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(kimsim @ Dec 10 2013, 09:28 PM)
previous thread : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751278

we restart again here to be discussion on non inverter or inverter aircond for our living needs.  rclxms.gif

some data tips only, but price may asking for latest seller.

Download Air Cond Data here!

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post Feb 11 2014, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 11 2014, 10:11 PM)
York is under daikin company and sharing same technology from daikin low budget design and cut cost for without eye motion in York Y Series inverter.

These is same like Toyota = Daikin
Perodua = York
But both also have passo or Myvi right.

From here if you can't understand then go for google it out notworthy.gif

Just noted that Daikin compressor using E-Scoll type & York compressor use DC Rotary type.
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may i ask, what's the different? What's the pros and cons?

A quick Google came up with this http://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent...84&context=icec

it says with R22 gas like what Daikin is using, Rotary is only better up to 8000 BTU. With R410a gas, rotary is better up to 24,000btu.



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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 11 2014, 10:52 PM)
may i ask, what's the different? What's the pros and cons?
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Not sure leh... Maybe you can search and collect more detail on Mazda RX8 rotary engine vs normal engine got any pro & cons..lol

For me of my house can keep more cooling and more power saving should be my right choice smile.gif

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post Feb 11 2014, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(kimsim @ Feb 11 2014, 11:11 PM)
York is under daikin company and sharing same technology from daikin low budget design and cut cost for without eye motion in York Y Series inverter.

These is same like Toyota = Daikin
Perodua = York
But both also have passo or Myvi right.

From here if you can't understand then go for google it out notworthy.gif

Just noted that Daikin compressor using E-Scoll type & York compressor use DC Rotary type.
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Sure or not? Where you get this info, or its just speculation? shocking.gif What i know, acson is under york. Never heard york is under daikin.

N what the problem with low budget? High budget doesn't necessary means its good. Take example proton n toyota. Did expensive proton have greater quality than a cheap toyota? No right?
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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Feb 11 2014, 11:17 PM)
Sure or not? Where you get this info, or its just speculation?  shocking.gif What i know, acson is under york. Never heard york is under daikin.

N what the problem with low budget? High budget doesn't necessary means its good. Take example proton n toyota. Did expensive proton have greater quality than a cheap toyota? No right?
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Daikin owns OYL. OYL owns York, Ascon and several other brands. Google.



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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Feb 11 2014, 11:17 PM)
Sure or not? Where you get this info, or its just speculation?  shocking.gif What i know, acson is under york. Never heard york is under daikin.

N what the problem with low budget? High budget doesn't necessary means its good. Take example proton n toyota. Did expensive proton have greater quality than a cheap toyota? No right?
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Well, does brand matters? I doubt so. The quality and easiness of getting repair and service are more important.
Since you take Proton vs Toyota, guess you need to think twice before saying Toyota is good. My friend just bought a Vios J recently and he regret on buying it. The rattling noise is same like his 16 year old Wira.
For air cond it is the same, I don't bother if it is made from China, more important is the service center I can get within 10 minutes from my house. This is what we shall look at.
There's no point on getting a brand which the service center are limited. This will take longer time to get it repaired and the work quality will be unknown also.
Like car CD player, why I choose Pioneer and not Alpine? Just simple, Pioneer has > 10 service centers in Malaysia while Alpine only has one service center in KL.
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QUOTE(supersound @ Feb 12 2014, 01:04 AM)
Well, does brand matters? I doubt so. The quality and easiness of getting repair and service are more important.
Since you take Proton vs Toyota, guess you need to think twice before saying Toyota is good. My friend just bought a Vios J recently and he regret on buying it. The rattling noise is same like his 16 year old Wira.
For air cond it is the same, I don't bother if it is made from China, more important is the service center I can get within 10 minutes from my house. This is what we shall look at.
There's no point on getting a brand which the service center are limited. This will take longer time to get it repaired and the work quality will be unknown also.
Like car CD player, why I choose Pioneer and not Alpine? Just simple, Pioneer has > 10 service centers in Malaysia while Alpine only has one service center in KL.
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I own toyota vios. N i notice a great quality difference compared to my old wira. No rattling noise or what so ever. Runs great even its Already 5 years old.

I beg to differ. i prefer a reputable brand. Why need service center if you unit doesnt need a repair. Even if the service centre is just close by, going there every now and then due to quality issue is tedios n wasting time icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 12 2014, 12:18 AM)
Daikin owns OYL. OYL owns York, Ascon and several other brands. Google.
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Yeah.. now i know. Tq for the info bro..
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QUOTE(platinum_12 @ Feb 12 2014, 12:35 AM)
I own toyota vios. N i notice a great quality difference compared to my old wira. No rattling noise or what so ever. Runs great even its Already 5 years old.

I beg to differ. i prefer a reputable brand. Why need service center if you unit doesnt need a repair. Even if the service centre is just close by, going there every now and then due to quality issue is tedios n wasting time  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I'm talking about the latest Vios.
Well, service center nearby does not means I have to visit them often. Is the time I need to visit when sheet happens. All my electric appliances are from Panasonic, like my vacuum cleaner my hourly maid break the extension pipe, I need to buy it back. So going to SC will be faster as if I order from the shop I buy(which close to 10 years and I forgot from which shop) it takes longer and the shop may charge some extra $$$.
Light bulb burnt, change a new one. Fan failed buy another. But if air cond failed due to circuit board failure, buy a new one also?
With SC nearby, I can always compare the price difference.
But can you do this if the SC is 100km far from your place?
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SOS source here

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Feb 11 2014, 11:18 PM)
Daikin owns OYL. OYL owns York, Ascon and several other brands. Google.
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OYL manufactures York under license. York is owned by Johnson Controls worldwide. Acson is OYL's "house brand" I think smile.gif
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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Feb 12 2014, 05:12 PM)
OYL manufactures York under license. York is owned by Johnson Controls worldwide. Acson is OYL's "house brand" I think smile.gif
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Ha ha... Go for history already..

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