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post Feb 10 2014, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 10 2014, 07:46 AM)
The black getting darker after the application of product.
That's all you used? Where you got your poorboy's black hole?

(I saw a lot of KURNIA stickers on your house glass door, you are agent or loyal customer?  biggrin.gif  )
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not just the black hole, i have megs ULW and UQW layered as well. however the black color depth mainly come from the black hole as it has dark colored fillers while the waxes obviously do not.

i got the poorboy's black hole from shine cars Singapore directly smile.gif

and my mom's an agent of kurnia, so yeah i'm a customer also lol.
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post Feb 10 2014, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 9 2014, 02:57 AM)
reza biggrin.gif

oh and he doesn't EXACTLY know the products inside out... in fact both me/him learned something new from his staff john... you can fold the plastic care pad inside out for a fresh clean surface... laugh.gif
(j/k he's really knowledgeable and very down to earth despite being sonax malaysia's big boss after all tongue.gif)

you got the rim cleaner AND wheel coating set right from the cny promo right? (didn't saw from the picture)
you guys damn semangat go so early wei, he mentioned about you guys laugh.gif

i reached there about 1pm++ lolz
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Yeah, down to earth seems about just right. He personally demonstrated how the product works and doesn't really care he was drenched in his own sweat. Great PR skills, i'd say.

They have the rim cleaner set but i only bought the cleaner only but not the coating. Don't think i'd require it.

Talking about early, i saw from their facebook page that they are open from 9am - 5pm. I headed over to Glenmarie at 9:15am only to realized no one was there, called Reza and then he told me to drop by at about 1100am T____T luckily i lived nearby otherwise ..... rclxub.gif

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post Feb 10 2014, 09:09 AM

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New lesson learned from yesterday car wash session:

1. Prep you car properly, your sealant and wax last for long period. This is 2nd wash only after 1+ month. In between, 1 QD, 1 maid wash with my Sonax shampoo and now my own wash. Water beading still very very nice. Applied Opti-Seal, then top with spray wax.

2. Meg's wheel brightner and degreaser will kill your normal nozzle spray. You need to use a chemical resistant nozzle spray.

3. Sonax Plastic Restorer will produce matte finishing on your plastic. So I topped up with Meg Hyperdressing.

...overall it was a "happy ending" car wash session. Very satisfied.

4. Women nag a lot when men wash car, even the car is hers.

Sekian.

Quazacolt You kena lottery!
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 10 2014, 08:58 AM)
Yeah, down to earth seems about just right. He personally demonstrated how the product works and doesn't really care he was drenched in his own sweat. Great PR skills, i'd say.

They have the rim cleaner set but i only bought the cleaner only but not the coating. Don't think i'd require it.

Talking about early, i saw from their facebook page that they are open from 9am - 5pm. I headed over to Glenmarie at 9:15am only to realized no one was there, called Reza and then he told me to drop by at about 1100am T____T luckily i lived nearby otherwise .....  rclxub.gif
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I asked him about Polymer Net Shied.
He sells it at RM180 and can only do 2 cars! sweat.gif

I rather stick with my Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Feb 10 2014, 08:58 AM)
Yeah, down to earth seems about just right. He personally demonstrated how the product works and doesn't really care he was drenched in his own sweat. Great PR skills, i'd say.

They have the rim cleaner set but i only bought the cleaner only but not the coating. Don't think i'd require it.

Talking about early, i saw from their facebook page that they are open from 9am - 5pm. I headed over to Glenmarie at 9:15am only to realized no one was there, called Reza and then he told me to drop by at about 1100am T____T luckily i lived nearby otherwise .....  rclxub.gif
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Aiyo wasted man, go search sonax YouTube on the rim coating lol
The cny sales makes it damn worth it tongue.gif

Well Reza didn't seem like a morning person, and luckily so am I XD
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post Feb 10 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Feb 10 2014, 09:09 AM)
Quazacolt You kena lottery!
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Omg what lottery?
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post Feb 10 2014, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 10 2014, 09:44 AM)
Aiyo wasted man,  go search sonax YouTube on the rim coating lol
The cny sales makes it damn worth it tongue.gif

Well Reza didn't seem like a morning person,  and luckily so am I XD
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Haha, i was showed by Reza the price of the rim coating if not bundled together with the rim cleaner and before the CNY promotion but i guess i wasn't really "convinced" by it during the demonstration or perhaps it's the effect on the rims of the Myvi SE.
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post Feb 10 2014, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 10 2014, 07:44 AM)
Full resolution and EXIF data included to clear any doubts:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/YWyAuVNUApj

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JasonLimQuazac...sts/a9zm7DDBKXe

really, the poorboy's black hole really did wonders on making proton's tranquility black suck less laugh.gif
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Side track a little...

From the pics you took, I cannot make any conclusion for sure.

To make apples to apples comparison, your lighting, exposure and everything else needs to be the same for both pics. Usually, manual mode is used to capture to ensure you fix the metering and not let the camera decide. You mentioned the EXIF is intact but I cannot see it.

Anyway, the first pic looks like the black car was metered and therefore the camera "thinks" it's dark and tends to brighten the pic. That is why your black car colour is a little washed out. You can see also that the whites on the bright fluorescent lamp on your garage and your neighbours are washed out and it's not in the 2nd pic.

Take some -ev exposure compensation on your 1st pic and you'll see it matches your 2nd. smile.gif

Having said that, it would be better if you had taken the pic out in the sun. Some may call it placebo effect, but I don't doubt your observation and that it does make dark coloured cars darker. Most importantly after the hard work put in, the end result is the owner feels satisfied.

QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Feb 10 2014, 09:09 AM)
3. Sonax Plastic Restorer will produce matte finishing on your plastic. So I topped up with Meg Hyperdressing.
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Wanna ask how to properly detail plastic trims? I have a lot of it all around my car. Plus together with the black wheels, I find I spend a lot of time dressing them. I take about 10 to 15 minutes just applying the dressing per wheel. sweat.gif

QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Feb 10 2014, 09:09 AM)
4. Women nag a lot when men wash car, even the car is hers.
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post Feb 10 2014, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 10 2014, 10:46 AM)
To make apples to apples comparison, your lighting, exposure and everything else needs to be the same for both pics. Usually, manual mode is used to capture to ensure you fix the metering and not let the camera decide. You mentioned the EXIF is intact but I cannot see it.

Anyway, the first pic looks like the black car was metered and therefore the camera "thinks" it's dark and tends to brighten the pic. That is why your black car colour is a little washed out. You can see also that the whites on the bright fluorescent lamp on your garage and your neighbours are washed out and it's not in the 2nd pic.

Take some -ev exposure compensation on your 1st pic and you'll see it matches your 2nd.  smile.gif

Having said that, it would be better if you had taken the pic out in the sun. Some may call it placebo effect, but I don't doubt your observation and that it does make dark coloured cars darker. Most importantly after the hard work put in, the end result is the owner feels satisfied.
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- I used manual mode, however it is my Xperia Z1 so there is a limit on what I can control

- Click on photo details to the right for the EXIF data

- first picture is on 1/13 shutter while the second is on 1/40 so yes it is a bit brighter. You could however compare the background picture such as the tiles and gate

- Both pictures are taken at night, 9 PM /2 am so background lighting should be the same

- Not sure if you've seen tranquility black Proton cars before but the basic idea is that it's not very black as the metallic particles are too much /bright. I have to admit that the poor boy glaze did not solved the issue 100%,it does help alleviated the problem. To fully solve it you'll have to re spray

- Yes when I get home I can try playing with the ev compensation to match both pictures biggrin.gif
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post Feb 10 2014, 11:50 AM

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Lol looks like doesn't work on phone browsers for the EXIF data
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Hi sifu here, may i know where can i get grit guard?
besides online buy~
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 10 2014, 02:07 PM)
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post Feb 10 2014, 02:38 PM

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Hi want to asking step for detailing car this weekend...

1. normal wash with DG 902 with 2 bucket system
2. drying with waffle weave cloth
3. claying with clay and lube
4. start apply DG 501 for remove wax
5. polish with DG 105 using DA
6. buff with polish cloth
7. wash with DG 902
8. drying with waffle weave cloth
9. apply sealant enviroshield
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QUOTE(ikan_semilang @ Feb 10 2014, 02:38 PM)
Hi want to asking step for detailing car this weekend...

1. normal wash with DG 902 with 2 bucket system
2. drying with waffle weave cloth
3. claying with clay and lube
4. start apply DG 501 for remove wax
5. polish with DG 105 using DA
6. buff with polish cloth
7. wash with DG 902
8. drying with waffle weave cloth
9. apply sealant enviroshield
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If you do not do step 4 but straight do step 5, I think after step 5 your old wax also gone already.
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Wanna ask how to properly detail plastic trims? I have a lot of it all around my car. Plus together with the black wheels, I find I spend a lot of time dressing them. I take about 10 to 15 minutes just applying the dressing per wheel. sweat.gif


10 to 15 minutes dressing a single wheel, to me is ... normal. LOL
Like I said, a lot of people here is overkill.
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post Feb 10 2014, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 10 2014, 02:49 PM)
10 to 15 minutes dressing a single wheel, to me is ... normal. LOL
Like I said, a lot of people here is overkill.
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LOL Ok. Need to make it clearer. the 10 to 15 minutes dressing I mentioned is just putting on the dressing on the tires. Prior cleaning the tires and the rims is like 15 to 20 minutes per wheel. And that's doing it on a weekly basis. sweat.gif Does not help that it's a 19" wheel rim and rubber and it collects a LOT of dirt. sad.gif The tires also one kind. Sidewall pattern is with very fine patterns and the dressings sometimes don't get applied nicely into those fine grooves. That's why it takes long. Have to massage it longer.

The black plastic trims surrounding the car is another problem. Putting dressing on it needs to make sure it's uniform as the area is quite large.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 10 2014, 04:09 PM)
LOL Ok. Need to make it clearer. the 10 to 15 minutes dressing I mentioned is just putting on the dressing on the tires. Prior cleaning the tires and the rims is like 15 to 20 minutes per wheel. And that's doing it on a weekly basis.  sweat.gif Does not help that it's a 19" wheel rim and rubber and it collects a LOT of dirt.  sad.gif The tires also one kind. Sidewall pattern is with very fine patterns and the dressings sometimes don't get applied nicely into those fine grooves. That's why it takes long. Have to massage it longer.

The black plastic trims surrounding the car is another problem. Putting dressing on it needs to make sure it's uniform as the area is quite large.
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lol awesome tyre babysitter biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 10 2014, 04:09 PM)
LOL Ok. Need to make it clearer. the 10 to 15 minutes dressing I mentioned is just putting on the dressing on the tires. Prior cleaning the tires and the rims is like 15 to 20 minutes per wheel. And that's doing it on a weekly basis.  sweat.gif Does not help that it's a 19" wheel rim and rubber and it collects a LOT of dirt.  sad.gif The tires also one kind. Sidewall pattern is with very fine patterns and the dressings sometimes don't get applied nicely into those fine grooves. That's why it takes long. Have to massage it longer.

The black plastic trims surrounding the car is another problem. Putting dressing on it needs to make sure it's uniform as the area is quite large.
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My average weekly wash activity took me 3 hrs minimum, that include
(i) tires, rims, wheel well wash with degreaser 1:10 ratio.
(ii) Internal door edges delicate cleaning (I found a lot of splash dirty water spot here, so have to clean up as well).
(iii) Wash whole exterior.
(iv) Wipe dry exterior, a bit on interior (door closing gap), and rims.
(v) Wipe under surface of engine hood with the remaining car shampoo, top up windshield washer, wipe a bit on engine parts.
(vi) Clean up stuffs and tools.
(vii) Apply tires dressing.
(viii) Time for lunch.

If got vacuum, interior wipe clean, add another hour at least. Because my house is facing east, 8am I can start to experience illumination of sun light. So from starting to wash at 7:30am, since last week I change to 6am wake up, 6:45am start washing after breakfast and apply sun block.

So no worry bro, I knew you spend hell lot of time and effort in washing & taking care your precious ride on weekly basic but remember you are not alone LOL.

As for the very fine patterns on the tires that you found hard to apply dressing onto, try use a tires brush (or any brush) instead.

If you are single, I guess taking care the car is the reason you stay single XD icon_idea.gif
If you are married, I guess taking care the car is the reason you wife wants to kill you XD. brows.gif

Again, you are not alone. thumbup.gif
Unless you willing to reduce your expectation, otherwise time can't really be saved.

Curious, your car is a SUV or 4WD kind of car? So many plastic trims around. The more different features a car has, the more complicated the process of taking care of them. You got to live with that for the vehicle of your preference. Another option could be spray paint the plastic trim so it has a paint surface, then next time you can skip taking care of plastic trim but treat it as normal painted surface only.
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My weekly wash would AT LEAST take me 2 hours....per car....but then, need to add another half an hour or so cuz I do the glass, tyres, plastic, etc dressing after I had my shower & dinner...

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