I don't consider spray waxes as proper waxes.
I just see them as gloss enhancers like quick detailers.

=.= sorry bro, read wrongly lol tot u asking durability of UQD chiilax

I have 2 diff brand spray wax. Not much of a gloss enhancer, but it can last at least 1 month, with 2 QD in between.

What product?
From optimum?

I just bought Kit wash and wax. This is the most expensive car shampoo that i can find at my hometown now. Cannot find turtle and meguiar brand.

Is it good ? I read at the back said no need to rinse, just wipe dry in section ?

This post has been edited by Effy92: Feb 2 2014, 05:13 PM

not sure, never use that lol. after u wash with it, i think shud be rinsed. try la =P

For tire protectant (eg: Meguiars Endurance Gel, etc.), will the tire crack if the product is applied frequently?

I apply dressings to my tyres after every wash, even if they don't really need one. Never had such problems.

Someone quoted:
"Well silicone acutally makes the product easy to spread, it's a necessary ingredient. Our Endurance isn't silicone based making it safe. I can guarantee our Gold Class Endurance Tire Gel will not dry or crack your tires. I've used it for years and never encountered any issues. The Gold Class Endurance Tire Gel actually has antiozonants to prevent your tire from cracking and drying. It's the only tire product we offer that replenishes the antiozonants your tires lost (the stuff that makes your tires look brown if not protected)." - from here

think should be ok gua crack jor let us know ba haha

Okay got it now! Thanks!

Yes, optimum and einszett.

Optimum is thicker liquid.

Any sifu here tried before the Turtle Wax Bug & Tar Remover ??
Looking for budget tar & bug remover.

Welcome any suggestion to beginner like me

I have tried before, not very impresive. There are a lot other APC that can do the job, cheaper and much more flexible.

You want to remove tar or bug?

So which item you're looking feedback for?

I have read from AMMO NYC and other sources that solvent base tyre dressing will dry the rubber and hence prompt tyre edge cracking. Thus this group of people recommends the use of water base tyre dressing product. The only drawback is its durability is shorter than solvent base tyre dressing.

Nevertheless, I also read from Autogeek.net, a post by Mike Philips where he responds to someone asking same question like you but specifically point it to the Meguiar's Endurance Tyre Gel (because this is a solvent base tyre dressing). Mike assures the reader that Meguiar's will never product something that harms our tyre.

But I also read from Cari.com detailing thread that someone has been using Meguiar's Endurance Tyre Gel and after year he notice his tyre cracks and puncture. He reasons that this is because of the tyre dressing he has been using and after this experience he stop using solvent base tyre dressing and change to water base tyre dressing. He claims since then he never observe the problem again. No crack.

I think few questions need to be addressed:

1) Is there exist solvent base tyre dressing that does not exhibit the drying effect? i.e. solvent base tyre dressing that does not crack the rubber? Is Meguiar's Endurance Gel this kind of special build solvent base tyre dressing?
2) Does tyre itself affects the effect of tyre dressing? Maybe cap ayam tyre will crack but Michelin tyre does not crack when used with solvent base tyre dressing?

Sorry but I do not have answers the above two questions.
Do I use Meguiar's Endurance Gel and other cap ayam tyre gel (like those Kit tyre foam spray where you can get with a bargain price during sale)? yes I do use. Do I observe any crack on my tyre? No so far after 1.5yrs of using the cap ayam foam spray (I am pretty sure it is solvent base because water base is more expensive). Am I worry my tyre will crack? I do but I do not find this worry is justified from my personal experience so I will wait till my Silverstone tyre explode first then I see who to blame.

But the only reason I am using Meguiar's tyre gel is because I have bunch of them which I got it during sale. I actually just want the Meguiar's shampoo but the discount is better if buy together with the gel so I get it too. LOL

I have tried before this product for the purpose of removing tar spot. It removes bug that sticks on your car front bumper as well.
I have also tried Meguiar's tar and bug remover before.
Comparing these two, the Turtle's wax one is more preferable by me.
Reason? After you wipe away the product, the Turtle'x Wax one leaves a smooth surface. It is also easier to wipe. After the wipe, if you touch the surface with your finger, you can feel some degree of silky smooth.
The Meguiar's is more difficult to wipe, I am not saying it can't but it is more difficult, as in more friction. And the surface after the wipe is not as smooth as the Turtle's Wax.
They both price almost the same, so I prefer to go with Turtle's Wax Bug and Tar Remover compare to Meguiar's Bug and Tar Remover.

But now I do not use Turtle's Wax Bug & Tar Remover any more because I have switch to a cheaper alternative which is the OSREN Tar Spot Remover. But the Osren does smell like petroleum. Nevertheless the Meguiar's and Turtle's Wax bug and tar remover also contain petroleum distillate inside, just that they do not smell that way. I think in order to dissolve the tar, use of non-polar solvent chemical like petroleum distillate is unavoidable. And petroleum distillate being solvent (certain kind) to car paint also, it is best not to let the product stay too long on your paint surface.

One thing to reminds you, I remember when I just got my car, I sent it to do SierraGlow glass coating in Subang.
Then after that, in my car wash routine, I used Turtle's Wax Bug & Tar Remover to remove some tar spots. The Turtle's Wax did its job well. But in the next wash I notice that the place I spray the Turtle Wax no longer has the water beading effect compare to other area. I was quite puzzled about this but I do not know is this a sign that the Turtle Wax dissolve ability is too strong for the coating or the coating hydrophobic property is too unreasonable weak and easily compromised by something else. The water beading was never restored. But I do not mind because I am going to do Opti Guard soon LOL. I think nothing going to dissolve Opti Guard coating. So if your car has coating you might want to stay away from all kind of bug and tar remover and just use clay bar to remove it. Last resort only go to bug and tar remover, any brand.

BTW the Turtle Wax and Meguiar's Bug and Tar Remover is really not cheap. If you remove bug and tar on a weekly basic during your routine car wash activity (like I do), you very soon realize your pocket is empty. Which is why I go after a cheaper, bigger volume alternative. Osren serves me well so far. I recommend this product.

Thanks for the useful information! Appreciate it

> But the only reason I am using Meguiar's tyre gel is because I have bunch of them which I got it during sale. I actually just want the Meguiar's shampoo but the discount is better if buy together with the gel so I get it too. LOL

LOL welcome another uncle
regarding the tyre age prematurely due to tyre's dressing, afaik it's the 'silicone' that do the harm. am personally using mothers' back-to-black tyre shine, but i do not know if it's safe LOL. hopefully sifu-sifu here can guide us to the light force.

Hi there, thanks for the greeting. I have been surfing here for many years but I am always a silence reader. Now CNY too free to surface a few replies.

Agree with your concern but I think no need over worry. People who sends to road side wash using unknown cap ayam tire dressing also do not complain any cracking I do not think people like us who use established brand product will get our ass kicked faster than them.