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TScloudstrife07
post Jan 14 2014, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Jan 14 2014, 08:31 PM)
It doesn't look there is any problems getting funds out of gox based on the discussion on bitcoin forums though, so if I were you I'd be worried.
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well there are problems. i dont know how u manage to cash out those monies less than 1 month. but for me and most of those people in here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/mtgox
http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0

people are complaining not getting their money for over 1 month. some span up to 4 months lol.

This post has been edited by cloudstrife07: Jan 14 2014, 08:43 PM
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jan 14 2014, 08:40 PM)
well there are problems. i dont know how u manage to cash out those monies less than 1 month. but for me and most of those people in here:

http://www.reddit.com/r/mtgox
http://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0

people are complaining not getting their money for over 1 month. some span up to 4 months lol.
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That's the problem they have with US banks. That's why I never withdrew to my US acc.
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post Jan 14 2014, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Jan 14 2014, 08:44 PM)
That's the problem they have with US banks. That's why I never withdrew to my US acc.
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not only US lol. below is the excerpt from my email last september.

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Dear mtgox,

I would like to know how long does it take to withdraw funds from my account? On 12/08/2013 I opt to withdraw $$$ from my Mtgox account (M*****) to my RHB Bank Malaysia Account (*****). Till now, there's still no news from my bank in regards to my withdrawal.
and the reply:

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James Support, Sep 09 13:18 (JST):
Hello ****,

Thank you for contacting us regarding your withdrawal request.

Due to a change in our banking system we are currently experiencing a back-log of withdrawals that we need to process.

Our team is working hard to increase transaction speeds, but there is approximately a few-week back-log we need to overcome.

It will take a few weeks to get back to normal, and we thank you for your patience during this time.

Again, we apologize for the delay and we will contact you once your withdrawal has been processed.

Best regards,

Mt.Gox Team
https://www.mtgox.com

[Attention: Please protect your account using OTP to ensure that your funds are safe and secure. Failing to do so makes your information vulnerable to hackers.
Please visit https://mtgox.com/security]
after that, after waiting for a month without any news, this is my reply to them:

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Dear Mt. Gox,

It would seem that my BTC to USD withdrawal to my local bank is taking too long that expected. Can I have my BTC back? Instead of waiting for 2 months and counting, I might as well continue trading here and increase my BTC amount.
and after a bit of confirmations etc. this was their last email:

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James Support, Oct 08 07:27 (JST):
Hello,

Thank you for your email. As per your request, we have cancelled your withdrawal and the funds are credited back to your Mt Gox account. Sorry for the inconvenience that this may have caused. Mt. Gox trying to form a relationships with several new banking partners both in Japan and around the world, and we are still in the process of finalizing even more. This means that we will have increased stability and ability to transmit withdrawals going forward. Once the withdrawal issues gets resolved, an announcement will be posted on our Mt Gox website. Kindly check our webpage for any latest updates.

Best regards,
MtGox Team
This post has been edited by cloudstrife07: Jan 14 2014, 08:53 PM
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post Jan 14 2014, 09:39 PM

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The price indicator alone on Mtgox should tell you there is a problem on fiat currency withdrawal.

If there is no issue, anyone that can withdraw FIAT would be doing arbitrage and the 100 usd price difference will disappear.

I had USD stucked in Mtgox for over 3 months from June to September, until I finally bite the bullet and buy bitcoin there and sell elsewhere to withdraw.

This post has been edited by arbitrage001: Jan 14 2014, 09:58 PM
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post Jan 14 2014, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(arbitrage001 @ Jan 14 2014, 09:39 PM)
The price indicator alone on Mtgox should tell you there is a problem on fiat currency withdrawal.

If there is no issue, everyone would be doing arbitrage and the 100 usd price difference will disappear.

I had USD stucked in Mtgox for over 3 months from June to September, until I finally bite the bullet and buy bitcoin there and sell elsewhere to withdraw.
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hence why i guess the real value of btc is within the price range of ( btc-e + bitstamp / 2 )
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jan 14 2014, 09:58 PM)
hence why i guess the real value of btc is within the price range of ( btc-e + bitstamp / 2 )
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Really depend on when and how you see things.

A month or two ago, the price on btcchina is more accurate. A small group of Chinese citizen were able to do arbitrage and capture all the price difference between exchanges around the world and btcchina. The profit is over 40% and they were using 2-4 million USD per cycle (you can do 2 arbitrage per week if you find a way to change RMB to USD). It is a matter of time before the price around the world caught up with China.


BTC-e do not have as much trust to me compare to bitstamp. So I will use bitstamp price as an indicator for btc value.

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post Jan 14 2014, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(arbitrage001 @ Jan 14 2014, 10:03 PM)
Really depend on when and how you see things.

A month or two ago, the price on btcchina is more accurate. A small group of Chinese citizen were able to do arbitrage and capture all the price difference between exchanges around the world and btcchina. The profit is over 40% and they are using 2-4 million USD per cycle (you can do 2 arbitrage per week if you find a way to change RMB to USD). It is a matter of time before the price around the world caught up with China.
BTC-e do not have as much trust to me compare to bitstamp. So I will use bitstamp price as an indicator for btc value.
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have u ever successfully cashed out your btc from bitstamp in recent times? if yes, how long does it takes?
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jan 14 2014, 10:18 PM)
have u ever successfully cashed out your btc from bitstamp in recent times? if yes, how long does it takes?
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Two months ago on bitstamp BTC withdraw. Normally less than 15 mins on sending out btc, then the confirmation take it normal times.

The only time I have issue on bitstamp btc withdrawal is when someone used up their hot wallet. This is when people still doing arbitrage between bitstamp and btcchina.


www.bitfinex.com is what I used now.

This post has been edited by arbitrage001: Jan 14 2014, 10:29 PM
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(arbitrage001 @ Jan 14 2014, 10:24 PM)
Two months ago on bitstamp BTC withdraw. Normally less than 15 mins on sending out btc, then the confirmation take it normal times.

The only time I have issue on bitstamp btc withdrawal is when someone used up their hot wallet. This is when people still doing arbitrage between bitstamp and btcchina.
www.bitfinex.com is what I used now.
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and why bitfinex if i may ask?
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jan 14 2014, 10:30 PM)
and why bitfinex if i may ask?
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Like their platform, especially the lending part.


I have deposited a large sum of USD there without problem (except my bank calling me) and withdraw over a large sum of btc without problem. This is over the course of 6 months after I become frustrated with Mtgox.


The company is registered in Hong Kong and their bank account is in Shanghai special economic zone. They only use USD, so China government should not bother them too much. They are trying to get license in Europe zone.

I did a conservative estimate on how much fee/commission they get per day. It come up to around 5k-10k USD per day on fee alone.

Hard to see anyone with this lucrative business model will steal their customer money and run away.

The owner is known also. So he will have no where to run if he steal his customers money.
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:54 PM

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how to withdraw usd from btc into our local bank?
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post Jan 14 2014, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 14 2014, 10:54 PM)
how to withdraw usd from btc into our local bank?
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Sell on localbitcoin.

Or sell on one of the exchange and wire back.

If you want USD, you will need a foreign currency account with one of the bank.

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post Jan 14 2014, 11:01 PM

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Does localbitcoin have scam cases? Scared of that.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 14 2014, 11:01 PM)
Does localbitcoin have scam cases? Scared of that.
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Lots of scam. There is a group of people that do nothing but trying to scam new seller every day.


I am offering to buy/sell btc for 8% fee. The fee should be lower than wiring it back and deal with currency conversation rate if your amount is small.

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QUOTE(arbitrage001 @ Jan 14 2014, 11:03 PM)
Lots of scam. There is a group of people that do nothing but trying to scam new seller every day.
I am offering to buy/sell btc for 8% fee. The fee should be lower than wiring it back and deal with currency conversation rate if your amount is small.
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based on mtGox price ?
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post Jan 15 2014, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Jan 14 2014, 07:28 PM)
chill bro, this is /k/
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chill la...its not as if I go and write a thread about bitcoin, pretending i know everything but i write all the wrong stuffs...i see a lot of people like that get flamed in "fast and furious".

But i here to enquire more about bitcoin because i want to know.

Then some maniac come here and say i cause trouble and wasting other people's time.


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post Jan 20 2014, 07:35 PM

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hi all, im selling PCIE x1 to x16 powered risers (length: 20cm) to further the spacing between cards smile.gif

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post Jan 20 2014, 07:37 PM

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I'm selling 8.5 LTC. PM me if u have an offer. Thanks
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post Jan 20 2014, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(arbitrage001 @ Jan 14 2014, 11:03 PM)
Lots of scam. There is a group of people that do nothing but trying to scam new seller every day.
I am offering to buy/sell btc for 8% fee. The fee should be lower than wiring it back and deal with currency conversation rate if your amount is small.
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good to know got this service. 8% fee based on which xchange?

and how to xchange? meet up?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 20 2014, 07:46 PM)
good to know got this service. 8% fee based on which xchange?

and how to xchange? meet up?
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Bitstamp price.

Either meet up (outside Maybank or HSBC) or deal over email.

If trust is an issue for you, then meet up. If trust isn't an issue, then you send first.


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