spent whole day walking in lowyat and times square...seems like very few ppl selling extension tube
Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.23, National Geography edition
Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.23, National Geography edition
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Dec 3 2013, 10:06 PM
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spent whole day walking in lowyat and times square...seems like very few ppl selling extension tube
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Dec 3 2013, 10:08 PM
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arrr a canon guy asking in nikon thread paiseh
a few of you might know that i love shooting macro, so recently after i saw a few of you post your diffuser for macro set up i decided to get one also. i bought this. ![]() now facepalm pulak, when i reverse my lens, the focusing distance drops until few cm from the bugs, the the octobox went so far until a lot further than my subject, causing the light unable to hit the subject correctly. also, i can't get softer light from that octobox, already opted for the largest in size but still the light appears quite harsh. |
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Dec 3 2013, 10:35 PM
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574 posts Joined: Nov 2009 From: Kuala Terengganu, Terengganu |
QUOTE(Silverfire @ Dec 3 2013, 09:40 PM) U Shoot I Shoot » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Haha! I encountered same pictures like this. Whenever we try to shoot someone with SLR, they shoot you back. QUOTE(tongweng @ Dec 3 2013, 10:06 PM) Looking for one? This might help you. I never deal with him, but the group page is quiet well-moderated, so I think he can be trusted.That said, I recommend getting a Raynox 250 for convenience. But I never tested an Auto ET, so I can't be sure. It might be better. This post has been edited by copperwire93: Dec 3 2013, 10:36 PM |
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Dec 3 2013, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(copperwire93 @ Dec 3 2013, 10:35 PM) [/spoiler] fbid=528911497190245&set=gm.507553129340012&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf]This[/url] might help you. I never deal with him, but the group page is quiet well-moderated, so I think he can be trusted. That said, I recommend getting a Raynox 250 for convenience. But I never tested an Auto ET, so I can't be sure. It might be better. I know there is various type macro equipment...but i need to hands on that item only can decide which to buy |
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Dec 3 2013, 10:51 PM
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24,193 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Perak |
QUOTE(copperwire93 @ Dec 3 2013, 08:00 PM) Wow! You got many macro photos, I have another shot of the fly, but it release somekind of fluid from its mouth whenever I get close. I got the shot with its fluid. But... not good for viewing Wow, that is an interesting shot man! Flies will secrete fluids when they find suitable food. The fluid will digest the food before the fly sucks them up I'm sure its a great shot hehe, share share~~ I've never seen anything like that before though haha, and I don't intend on waiting beside dog poo to find out XD QUOTE(poad @ Dec 3 2013, 08:08 PM) We all have to start somewhere I used to be very poor in my macro shots too haha QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Dec 3 2013, 08:13 PM) Haha must tag Sifu CY along too!! His motorsports photo are awesome! My inspiration lol! Yeah, CY sifu's photos are so good, both the cars and girls Nice pictures!! Its awesome that you know your subjects! How do you know if you don't mind telling How long do you guys wait for the subjects for a macro shot?? Keep up the good work! Coincidentally I am also working a bit on some insect research, so I know some of them haha, I just refer to books or scientific literature. I can only ID the commons ones la haha Still much to learn~ Usually noneed to wait (unless flying or hunting shot), just find them and shoot Like copperwire93 mentioned, its more about composition, focusing and ninja stealth to not scare them away XD |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:00 PM
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24,193 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Perak |
QUOTE(tongweng @ Dec 3 2013, 10:06 PM) Extension tubes are quite rare, since there's not really a lot of demand I suppose QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 3 2013, 10:08 PM) arrr a canon guy asking in nikon thread paiseh Ahhh, no problems man, we all have the passion for photography what a few of you might know that i love shooting macro, so recently after i saw a few of you post your diffuser for macro set up i decided to get one also. i bought this. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « now facepalm pulak, when i reverse my lens, the focusing distance drops until few cm from the bugs, the the octobox went so far until a lot further than my subject, causing the light unable to hit the subject correctly. also, i can't get softer light from that octobox, already opted for the largest in size but still the light appears quite harsh. I sort of have the same problem as you haha, as in the diffuser being too long than the lens, especially when I don't use the ET Perhaps can consider flash brackets? Or a smaller diffuser I'm not familiar with Canon flashguns, but you should be able to switch the light to disperse right? Can also put down the flashgun's diffuser (if applicable) for extra diffusion |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:14 PM
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574 posts Joined: Nov 2009 From: Kuala Terengganu, Terengganu |
QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Dec 3 2013, 10:51 PM) Wow, that is an interesting shot man! Here, then I guess it is makan angin. Flies will secrete fluids when they find suitable food. The fluid will digest the food before the fly sucks them up I'm sure its a great shot hehe, share share~~ Put spoiler tag in case some finds it uneasy. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:18 PM
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24,193 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Perak |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Dec 3 2013, 11:00 PM) Extension tubes are quite rare, since there's not really a lot of demand I suppose hmm how much would a flash bracket costs? if it's expensive, i think i will invest in light stand those things instead. wouldn't a smaller diffuser create harsher light? Ahhh, no problems man, we all have the passion for photography what I sort of have the same problem as you haha, as in the diffuser being too long than the lens, especially when I don't use the ET Perhaps can consider flash brackets? Or a smaller diffuser I'm not familiar with Canon flashguns, but you should be able to switch the light to disperse right? Can also put down the flashgun's diffuser (if applicable) for extra diffusion it's yongnuo flash haha, canon's flash is too expensive for me. yeap, i tried putting down those, but didn't affect really much. |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 3 2013, 10:08 PM) arrr a canon guy asking in nikon thread paiseh Since when did you get a trumpet for your flash? a few of you might know that i love shooting macro, so recently after i saw a few of you post your diffuser for macro set up i decided to get one also. i bought this. ![]() now facepalm pulak, when i reverse my lens, the focusing distance drops until few cm from the bugs, the the octobox went so far until a lot further than my subject, causing the light unable to hit the subject correctly. also, i can't get softer light from that octobox, already opted for the largest in size but still the light appears quite harsh. On a more serious note, try attaching the diffuser cap first before fitting the softbox. |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Dec 3 2013, 11:32 PM) Since when did you get a trumpet for your flash? it looks really crazy haha, didn't thought it would that big when i bought it. i don't have the cap bundled with my flash On a more serious note, try attaching the diffuser cap first before fitting the softbox. |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 3 2013, 11:34 PM) it looks really crazy haha, didn't thought it would that big when i bought it. i don't have the cap bundled with my flash Can get for 10 bucks at digicolor nia. Reason your lighting is harsh because all the power is still aiming towards the center of the softbox, you need secondary diffusion at the light source first to better distribute the spread of light.My softbox pula too short ![]() |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Dec 3 2013, 11:40 PM) Can get for 10 bucks at digicolor nia. Reason your lighting is harsh because all the power is still aiming towards the center of the softbox, you need secondary diffusion at the light source first to better distribute the spread of light. i also bought that tiny octobox from digicolor, just today haha. need to buy the cap next time when i visit there. thanks a lot for the tips, i don't know diffusing the light is so complicated My softbox pula too short ![]() now i can only shoot with the octobox using 70-200, that's they only lens that the octobox won't cover. |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 3 2013, 11:47 PM) i also bought that tiny octobox from digicolor, just today haha. need to buy the cap next time when i visit there. thanks a lot for the tips, i don't know diffusing the light is so complicated Quite simple only la once you start to understand the concept. now i can only shoot with the octobox using 70-200, that's they only lens that the octobox won't cover. For macro, the more layers of diffusion, the softer the light, but the more power required from the flash la. Oh yeah, you need to bring in the flash very close to the subject to maximize the benefits also. ![]() This post has been edited by gunzerdude: Dec 3 2013, 11:52 PM |
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Dec 3 2013, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Dec 3 2013, 11:50 PM) Quite simple only la once you start to understand the concept. yeah, need to start experimenting to lighting to improve my skills. For macro, the more layers of diffusion, the softer the light, but the more power required from the flash la. with the octobox, i already lost like 1 stop of power compared to bare flash, wouldn't mind charging the batteries more oftenly as long as i get the picture i want. |
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Dec 4 2013, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Dec 3 2013, 07:23 PM) Thank you man, much appreciated! JUNGLE! Never entered jungle eh, haha. Try my best =p You fly over nice also, we can learn from you Will let you know if I need anything for my research hehe, but probably need to find in the jungle Yeah, a good diffuser will help improve shots tremendously, and the shape of the diffuser will help too. If you are into jumping spiders, then ring flashes are good picks~ Well, sometimes you can lure the spider out what haha, then only shoot. Jumping spiders are usually pretty curious and not shy Yup, the shot is cropped, most macro shots are cropped, as far as I know haha~ There are only two ways (based on what I've learned so far) to get large DOF: 1. Shoot with lower magnification, then cropped or 2. Focus stacking I tried, they keep hide inside I think I'll try with lower magnification and cropping them, focus stacking seems tough on the field. |
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Dec 4 2013, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Dec 3 2013, 07:36 PM) Awesome shots mate! Thanks bro, not really satisfied though, still very far away from your level I'm sure these were not taken at your house garden right? #1 is a fungus beetle #2 is a Great Egg Fly (Hypolimnas bolina) - great shot, these butterflies don't usually hang around too much #3 bug porn! XD #4 is an Electric Blue Banded Phintella (Phintella vittata) - this is a very tough spider to shoot since they are extremely jumpy, I have yet to get a decent shot of the front hehe, can try it as a challenge~ #8 is a stilt legged fly- again, a tough shot since their legs are so damn long and are always out of focus. You did very well in your shot, where the legs are still pretty decently focused, kudos! Shots will be come very soft at high magnifications, so the trick is to reduce magnification (yes I know its hard to do that for a macro shooter haha) and crop later, or focus stack ^___^ Keep it up~~ Thanks for the ID too, haha, and the encouragement Yep, I think other than my 1st batches of macro, lately ones are all not from my house garden de, normally I take a walk around the neighborhood then stop when there's some foliage and look look see see, my garden hardly has any rare bugs This post has been edited by QiAnG: Dec 4 2013, 12:47 AM |
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Dec 4 2013, 01:18 AM
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hi sifus... im thinking to get a tripod.. around rm400 range...
maybe gonna get from BhPhotovideo... cousin from US will buy back... wanna get a ball head one.. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?setVi...61368&view=LIST any good one? was thinking about carbon fibre.. but dam expensive.. =X |
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Dec 4 2013, 07:21 AM
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QUOTE(BlizzardCraft @ Dec 4 2013, 01:18 AM) hi sifus... im thinking to get a tripod.. around rm400 range... Try Jusino brand. Some of their carbon fibre tripods are priced around RM500-600. maybe gonna get from BhPhotovideo... cousin from US will buy back... wanna get a ball head one.. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?setVi...61368&view=LIST any good one? was thinking about carbon fibre.. but dam expensive.. =X This post has been edited by Pro3363: Dec 4 2013, 08:33 AM |
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Dec 4 2013, 10:37 AM
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24,193 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Perak |
QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Dec 3 2013, 11:27 PM) hmm how much would a flash bracket costs? if it's expensive, i think i will invest in light stand those things instead. wouldn't a smaller diffuser create harsher light? Bracket costs around RM100-200 I think, and most are dual flash brackets. Single ones are quite rare I think it's yongnuo flash haha, canon's flash is too expensive for me. yeap, i tried putting down those, but didn't affect really much. Light stands as in those for strobist work? I wouldn't really recommend them, you will want to travel as light as possible for macro work. The more your gears, the more easy you tire, and also easier susceptibility to handshakes @@ QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Dec 3 2013, 11:40 PM) Can get for 10 bucks at digicolor nia. Reason your lighting is harsh because all the power is still aiming towards the center of the softbox, you need secondary diffusion at the light source first to better distribute the spread of light. +1~My softbox pula too short » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The softbox works really well for me, though it sure gets in the way sometimes Still trying to find a smaller diffuser that provides the same amount of light diffusing haha, will update when I finally find/design one This post has been edited by [PF] T.J.: Dec 4 2013, 10:37 AM |
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