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RangerRed
post Jun 19 2006, 06:54 PM, updated 15y ago

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I bought a 19" LCD from J,boy on Thuresday June 8th. Rushing downtowm by bus before 6:30pm (his deadline for me to bankin otherwise he will cod with another forumer) arrive at 6:20pm to Komtar to bank in via Cash Deposit. Phone him up to make sure that I am still the primary buyer. He confirms that the other forumer did not reply back to him about the COD is I got the trade instead. Banked in RM*** for the LCD plus shipping cost at 6.30pm.

This LCD is actually bought by my mother as she also rushed from another part of penang to hand me the money to make the deposit.

Phoned him up after the deposit to confirm cash deposit and shipping date. He says on friday.

On friday at around 6pm or later I can't remember I sms him and he says GDEX never picked up the LCD from the office.

Ok he'll send on monday.

On monday he after smsing him several times he confirms at around 6pm again that GDEX has picked up the LCD (he ask his friend to help him to do this) at 5:15pm. I ask for tracking code. Got no reply.

Tuesday I sms him around after 3pm I ask him again for the tracking code. Says he will give it but later. By 6pm I know GDEX will not deliver anymore that day.

Today at 10am I sms him again for tracking code. He says he is in a meeting and to sms him back after 30 mins. 11am I sms him but no reply. 12pm I call GDEX trying to get them to confirm if there is a package heading to my address. They refuse with out Consignment Number.

SMS him again about the number he says remind him at 2:15pm as he is at lunch. SMS at 2:15pm he tells me his friend will sms me the number. Around 4pm sms him again saying haven't received any number he replies, 'cannot be'.

After that I have continuiously smsed him till 7pm demanding to know what is going on.

Call him twice at 7:13pm, handphone rings then stops.

Sent him smses at 7:15pm - 7:23pm to inform him that I will post this matter in the Trade Disput Forum at 8pm unless he provides me with a satisfactory answer or the Consignment Number.

His friend sms me saying the LCD not sent because of 'dot' on it.

Lee sms me telling me that he will call later to talk about the situation.

He sayz Moppy is the actual seller and tested the LCD before sending it out (when I don't know) and found there is some defect. So he sayz that Moppy will consult his boss on a 1 to 1 exchange before sending it off to me. Whether I get the same model or better model is no concern of mine although I would love to get a better model. I certainly do not want a lesser model so I told him so.

So he sayz he will inform me in 24 hrs (thuresday June 15th at 6pm) if there is going be a 1 to 1 or I get my money back.

Thuresday 8pm no call from J,Boy. I told him that I hate that people say they will reply to question and don't. This deadline he himself has set and not me. If J,Boy can't live up to making a simple call by 6pm or latest 8pm then I want my RM*** back. Blood and sweat ending in tears. I hope this is not the case with dealing with him.

Friday, I checked my HP and see 2 SMSes from Moppy 1st saying he needs my address and the 2nd he needs it fast because the GDEX man is coming. This I was not sure was around 2-3pm so I SMS my particulars to him. He says 'it is too late' the GDEX
guy came and went. So I SMS him saying that he better get the guy back to get the LCD. He says its raining heavily. Sun or rain a good courier company will deliver or pick up the goods. So I tell him if he can not get them to come then he should go to their offices on Saturday and drop the LCD there.

Saturday, I have to SMS Moppy for info on whats going on. He tells me that the boy at the warehouse will send the LCD to GDEX. I say ok have him SMS you so you can SMS me the Consignment Number. He says how can he do that when he is not at warehouse. WTF. He say wait until monday.

Monday, I wait until 6pm. During that time I SMS Moppy demanding the Consignment Number. Times up.

All the while I am SMSes Moppy I am updating J,Boy who says he will call Moppy and see what's going on. Then I have to SMS J,Boy just to hear from him all the time saying, 'I don't know what's going on.'

I don't buy Vapourware.

Since I represent my mother's wishes on this, J,Boy the deal now null, void. I want a full refund of the Cash Deposit of RM*** to the account that you specified which is you claim is Moppy's.

Even though it maybe not your fault, it is you that choose to represent Moppy for dealing with us at Lowyat. And your inability to produce results to Moppy's total lack action just shows you are not in any control.

I want this refrund my RHBBank Account immediately. The faster you refund the money faster I close this thread. I will SMS you my a/c number.

How you get the money is no concern of mine. I was very generous and polite for the past the 10 days. The amount of lies heap on by Moppy has made me reconsider my stand on dealing with him or him through you.

And if work and real life was the result of the weak service that failed to deliver me the LCD then I sorry for you but then you should have known well enough that commitment comes when dealing with other people's money. No amount of free model upgrading will change my mind on demanding my refund.


His name is Lee Gin Sng
Maybank Account Number 112344041813
His HP number is 012 2896326
His 'friend' Moppy's number is 016 2105091

For all you that are wondering that it's only 10 days. It's not the 10 days, it's the lies and lies. I do not deal with liars.

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Update 22 June: J,Boy will begin on refunding me the money after days.

This post has been edited by RangerRed: Jun 22 2006, 09:35 PM
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post Jun 19 2006, 07:05 PM

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post Jun 19 2006, 07:29 PM

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Jason Lee Gin Sng
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all the nicks above is same person, he just tipu you, me is one of his buyer LCD, he keep delaying me- if you dun trust me- u can always call vismart sdn bhd malaysia office no 03-79586688 and check with his company

u people tengok this [url=http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=266011&hl=moppy]tis[url] out ..3 nicks trying to create alibi to protect each other...so obvious
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post Jun 19 2006, 08:07 PM

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hah.. since last time i always contaminate his thread saying he is posibble conmen, i mean j,boy.. n being scolded laugh.gif
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Thanks for sharing your story. Hope it can be settled. Unless there is a good reply I think they should provide full refund as requested by buyer. Very disappointing to see that they never reply and you have to do all the chasing.
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QUOTE(J @ Boy aka Moppy aka V.S.Mart,Jun 19 2006, 07:29 PM)
Jason Lee Gin Sng
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all the nicks above is same person, he just tipu you, me is one of his buyer LCD, he keep delaying me- if you dun trust me- u can always call vismart sdn bhd malaysia office no 03-79586688 and check with his company

u people tengok this [url=http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=266011&hl=moppy]tis[url] out ..3 nicks trying to create alibi to protect each other...so obvious
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vismart will not refund you because there will be no records of the CHIMEI lcds....
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QUOTE(J @ Boy aka Moppy aka V.S.Mart,Jun 19 2006, 07:29 PM)
Jason Lee Gin Sng
-Moppy
-V.S.Mart
-J,Boy

all the nicks above is same person, he just tipu you, me is one of his buyer LCD, he keep delaying me- if you dun trust me- u can always call vismart sdn bhd malaysia office no 03-79586688 and check with his company

u people tengok this [url=http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=266011&hl=moppy]tis[url] out ..3 nicks trying to create alibi to protect each other...so obvious
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u registered today and u saying u kena cheat? come on, tell us ur previous nick and dont simply throw blood on ppl. dont be a coward there and posting using other account. unless u bo-ji la tongue.gif
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post Jun 20 2006, 11:21 AM

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If you guys think that i`m really a conman ere to earn ppl blood and sweet money.....then just time about that
i have sold so many LCD in lyn forum and it`s almost more then 6 month..... cos got some delay means i`m a conman....

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post Jun 20 2006, 11:43 AM

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Situation is being discussed currently between me and J,Boy in a gentlemanly manner via phone and SMS.
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QUOTE(J @ boy,Jun 20 2006, 11:21 AM)
If you guys think that i`m really a conman ere to earn ppl blood and sweet money.....then just time about that
i have sold so many LCD in lyn forum and it`s almost more then 6 month..... cos got some delay means i`m a conman....
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i deal with moppy before on the jazz speakers. yeah you are right DELAY doesnt means you are a conman but moppy DELAYED my speakers more than a month after i bank in the money into his account!

actually it was bro RangerRed pm me and asked me for moppy details. then only i realized moppy and jboy are both using the same information, same bank account, same hp and SAME NAME! so this is the best time for you to do some explanation here.

i dont wanna accuse you anything since i received the jazz speakers at the end but it was both of you, moppy & jboy did gave me a very "best time". delay and delay and delay. to make it a short story here, all these were excuses i got from moppy,

busy preparing for pc fair. then pc fair lah no staff check speakers lah. then no stock lah. then moppy not around asked me to pm jboy lah. then jboy said need to check with moppy lah. then GDEX forgot to come pick up lah. then said GDEX came and pickup already but when asked for tracking no. moppy said he was outside need to go back to office first. then i waited the next day whole day GDEX didnt showup. then called back moppy said wrong address lah GDEX returned back. then delayed another few more days and finally received the speakers after waiting/delaying more than a month!

by the way, forgot to include the best part in my short story... during all the delay things when i called moppy, he always not answering my calls. i called him too many times using my hp and house phone both also he refused to answer until i called using my wife's hp, then he answered!!! but immediately he knew it was me he hang up. at the end i created a topic in garage sales section WTF moppy and after that only moppy started PROCESSING and DELIVER my speakers.

so conclusion here... jboy mind to explain here why those excuses in RangerRed case are so similar to my past experience with moppy and all these excuses must always include 2 main ppl into the scenario, jboy and moppy!
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post Jun 20 2006, 11:44 AM

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So all of you hold your thoughts until tomorrow.
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post Jun 20 2006, 11:53 AM

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judge-the, apparently that is Moppy's style of doing things.
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post Jun 20 2006, 11:55 AM

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Anyway, we are in discussion on the situation as said. So lets turn down the fires, there will be no pig roasting yet.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jun 20 2006, 11:53 AM)
judge-the, apparently that is Moppy's style of doing things.
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oh.. moppy, i realise that he still owe me RM5.40, is a small amount, i ask him for refund then he tell me he got no maybank account, but due to such small amount, i dun really care la... of coz, if he's free, he can go to maybank ATM and do cash deposit to me...


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Closing thread for 2 days.

Edit: Re-openned on request. Ok closed for 2 days. Lets hope for the best!

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QUOTE(J @ Boy aka Moppy aka V.S.Mart,Jun 19 2006, 07:29 PM)
Jason Lee Gin Sng
-Moppy
-V.S.Mart
-J,Boy

all the nicks above is same person, he just tipu you, me is one of his buyer LCD, he keep delaying me- if you dun trust me- u can always call vismart sdn bhd malaysia office no 03-79586688 and check with his company

u people tengok this [url=http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=266011&hl=moppy]tis[url] out ..3 nicks trying to create alibi to protect each other...so obvious
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May i know who the FUXK are you??thrust me i will sure find it out but hope you are not yangxi team member .If you are please inform yangxi try not to f*** around with me and i will find him in melaka raya(his house)


QUOTE(jam_lennon @ Jun 20 2006, 01:07 PM)
oh.. moppy, i realise that he still owe me RM5.40, is a small amount, i ask him for refund then he tell me he got no maybank account, but due to such small amount, i dun really care la... of coz, if he's free, he can go to maybank ATM and do cash deposit to me...
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i did not say i don`t have a maybank account but i did told you that how do you want me to bank in if I have to pay you back at RM 5.40,i did say b4 why don`t we meet up somewhere then i return back to you.

Please use your f***ing brain b4 saying anything ere
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isn't moppy already in minor or blacklist? Well, at least he is in my blacklist. Irresponsible trader.

As for jboy...his stuffs are not really that cheap and he have attitude problems.

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Updated: Check 1st post. If you got anything to say or add you're have to PM me. This will be closed again for 2 days.

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Still waiting for some refund. No news yet.
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see..... Would you want to trade with this kind of trader?

I rest my case.
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Can we have a recap here?

J.boy agreed that he will give free upgrade if delivery is delayed?
If that case i'd still be ok with it...
If not, delayed by 1 month and the market price already drop then its like cheating.

Anyway....where the hell is this moppy or J.boy or whosoever the seller location?
I volunteer to personally pickup he LCD from him and send to your doorstep.
So there will not be any GDEX or RAINING or any stupid delay.

My company's AIRPAK,SECUREEXPRESS,GDEX comes everyday, sometimes late but they do come everyday.

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i still waiting for JBOY to return the LCD
bought New lcd from him but is a bad one
end up have to bring to RMA at vismart
waited 2 weeks without any lcd
and no refund provided
JBOY pls update me asap the status


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to you people out there who got problem with Moppy, J,boy, or V.S.Mart

JUST CALL THE OFFICE NUMBER
03-79586688

THATS THE VISMART MALAYSIA OFFICE HQ
SETTLE EVERYTHING THERE, TRUST ME YOU PEOPLE, DUN TRUST HIM, ELSE YOU WILL END UP LIKE OTHERS, WAITED FEW YEARS, SO DO I, WAITED FEW YEARS N GET NOTHING


p/s MOPPY = J,BOY = V.S.MART = JASON LEE GIN SNG


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QUOTE(J @ Boy aka Moppy aka V.S.Mart,Jun 27 2006, 05:58 PM)
to you people out there who got problem with Moppy, J,boy, or V.S.Mart

JUST CALL THE OFFICE NUMBER
03-79586688

THATS THE VISMART MALAYSIA OFFICE HQ
SETTLE EVERYTHING THERE, TRUST ME YOU PEOPLE, DUN TRUST HIM, ELSE YOU WILL END UP LIKE OTHERS, WAITED FEW YEARS, SO DO I, WAITED FEW YEARS N GET NOTHING
p/s MOPPY = J,BOY = V.S.MART = JASON LEE GIN SNG
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u still not yet tell us ur original nick here

or u bo-ji to tell?
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QUOTE(avenger @ Jun 27 2006, 06:10 PM)
u still not yet tell us ur original nick here

or u bo-ji to tell?
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you know something? JUST STFU IF YOU DUNO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS

HAVE YOU CALLED VISMART SDN BHD TO CHECK WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT?

I WAS HERE YEARS AGO, what was my previous nick is NONE OF YOU FK BUSINNESS

IM HERE TO DISCLOSE THESE SCAMMER WHO DELAYED MY STUFF.FULL OF LIES

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DELAYED BY MOPPY, J,BOY, AND VISMART,

MAKE A NEW THREAD, LIST DOWN YOUR NAME AND COMPLAINTS



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So J,Boy = Moppy = V.S.Mart = JASON LEE GIN SNG, and he is working with Vismart? I think we got the point. You have repeated the same info 3 times already... http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...luser&mid=65950

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J,Boy you are suppose to bank in RM200 on last saturday and the remaining amount on this saturday 1st July. I have yet been credited the RM200 to my account. Please make sure you pay the whole amount you promised by this saturday.

I will no longer remind you either through lowyat.net or through my phone.

All I ask is that you will be honest and responsible.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jun 27 2006, 08:16 PM)
J,Boy you are suppose to bank in RM200 on last saturday and the remaining amount on this saturday 1st July. I have yet been credited the RM200 to my account. Please make sure you pay the whole amount you promised by this saturday.

I will no longer remind you either through lowyat.net or through my phone.

All I ask is that you will be honest and responsible.
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i knew how you felt there because my previous deal with moppy end of last year was dragged more than 4 weeks.

anyway i am not going to create any new issues on my previous deal here but my little advice to you is just make sure these 2 ppl DELIVER their words/promises ON TIME because if not they will give you lots of excuses and finally the so-called "not answering your calls".

please take note, these 2 persons didnt con anyone yet but to them any DELAYS are ok as long as they deliver in the end but on our side as buyer DELAYS are not ok at all!
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QUOTE(J @ Boy aka Moppy aka V.S.Mart,Jun 27 2006, 06:23 PM)
you know something? JUST STFU IF YOU DUNO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS

HAVE YOU CALLED VISMART SDN BHD TO CHECK WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT?

I WAS HERE YEARS AGO, what was my previous nick is NONE OF YOU FK BUSINNESS

IM HERE TO DISCLOSE THESE SCAMMER WHO DELAYED MY STUFF.FULL OF LIES

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DELAYED BY MOPPY, J,BOY, AND VISMART,

MAKE A NEW THREAD, LIST DOWN YOUR NAME AND COMPLAINTS
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ur mum mum didnt tell u not to use CAPS word to write arh ? whistling.gif

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Update:

J,boy SMSed me saying his brother bank in on saturday - sunday. So giving the benifit of the doubt I wait till now and still not credit of RM200. He even ask for my fax number to fax the receipt. So i gave it. Also no fax.
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err..which bank open on Sat and Sun?

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I presume Giro Interbank.

Either case he has till this saturday to put in my account the full amount he owes me by 3pm otherwise you all can rip him apart. While I set off some other dogs of war too.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jun 28 2006, 12:47 PM)
He even ask for my fax number to fax the receipt. So i gave it. Also no fax.
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Maybe he wants to fax his pc over to me? lol Who knows. What he has told me has yet come to pass.
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QUOTE(J @ Boy aka Moppy aka V.S.Mart,Jun 27 2006, 05:58 PM)
to you people out there who got problem with Moppy, J,boy, or V.S.Mart

JUST CALL THE OFFICE NUMBER
03-79586688

THATS THE VISMART MALAYSIA OFFICE HQ
SETTLE EVERYTHING THERE, TRUST ME YOU PEOPLE, DUN TRUST HIM, ELSE YOU WILL END UP LIKE OTHERS, WAITED FEW YEARS, SO DO I, WAITED FEW YEARS N GET NOTHING
p/s MOPPY = J,BOY = V.S.MART = JASON LEE GIN SNG
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May i know what did you bought from me that makes you waited for so long
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QUOTE(J @ boy,Jun 29 2006, 11:20 AM)
May i know what did you bought from me that makes you waited for so long
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Why you want to know mofo, just settle the deal once and for all. Victims do send me info of this guy (bank / phone) I'll try to track his whereabouts / address.
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QUOTE(woundxp @ Jun 29 2006, 11:44 AM)
Why you want to know mofo, just settle the deal once and for all. Victims do send me info of this guy (bank / phone) I'll try to track his whereabouts / address.
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cos i don`t owe anyone ere except for RangerRed LCD
so i also need to know who is that guys and why is he trying to do

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QUOTE(J @ Boy aka Moppy aka V.S.Mart,Jun 27 2006, 06:23 PM)
you know something? JUST STFU IF YOU DUNO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS

HAVE YOU CALLED VISMART SDN BHD TO CHECK WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR NOT?

I WAS HERE YEARS AGO, what was my previous nick is NONE OF YOU FK BUSINNESS

IM HERE TO DISCLOSE THESE SCAMMER WHO DELAYED MY STUFF.FULL OF LIES

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN DELAYED BY MOPPY, J,BOY, AND VISMART,

MAKE A NEW THREAD, LIST DOWN YOUR NAME AND COMPLAINTS
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STOP SPAMMING AND FLAMMING WITHOUT PROOFS...
We all the point u saying the guy working at vsmart...
stop fcuking here unless u tell us your real account and your case..

I suggest mod temp ban this guy..

QUOTE(abubin @ Jun 28 2006, 02:07 PM)
err..which bank open on Sat and Sun?
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Jun 29 2006, 01:32 PM)
to moppy:
Nama busuk here, is your own business.  Don't call me again , and threaten me came to my place .

"NOT WELCOME" , i will call POLIS.
To J,Boy aka Moppy aka V.S.Mart:
Please clearify your detail here , I'm not relate this !! 
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U related with this case?
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no but some ppl(moppy) keep mocking yangxi so kesian ka him lorr....
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woo gosh....these few days alot of "joined today" ppl posting at dispute forum...
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J,Boy just keep ur promise and bank all the big 7 to me by saturday and all is forgotten.
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refunding also want delay.. what a kind of ppl.. weeks oledi
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i bought a NEW LCD from jboy
who know it 's bad lcd
normally seller will be 1 to 1 exchange for any bad item

who know end up saying no STock and
have to RMA and got no REFUND

i been waiting for WEEKS

i still waiting my LCD! Jason pls settle it ASAP tml

if u are buyer wat would u feel
pay and got noting


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next time also need to be careful on those warranty given my ppl like this jboy eventhough warranty is 1 year but when got problem all kind of excuse will pop up....


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QUOTE(benlaw @ Jun 29 2006, 10:46 PM)
i bought a NEW LCD from jboy
who know it 's bad lcd
normally seller will be 1 to 1 exchange for any bad item

who know end up saying no STock and
have to RMA and got no REFUND

i been waiting for WEEKS

i still waiting my LCD! Jason pls settle it ASAP tml

if u are buyer wat would u feel
pay and got noting
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What can j,boy do? Let`s say if you buy new car and you drove for 2 days then you find out there is some problem,can you ask the car seller to exchange 1 to 1 for you

I know that you have been waitting but the LCD will only be back next week.Pls do understand,sometimes not to say buyer want it this ways means you get it

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so moppy that wrote this msg ar?
i'll hold up till wednesday
as mention LCD have send out from taiwan

QUOTE(J @ boy,Jun 30 2006, 10:15 AM)
What can j,boy do? Let`s say if you buy new car and you drove for 2 days then you find out there is some problem,can you ask the car seller to exchange 1 to 1 for you

I know that you have been waitting but the LCD will only be back next week.Pls do understand,sometimes not to say buyer want it this ways means you get it
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why people always want to take example of car.. if you order fried mee from restaurant, got problem in it, for sure they will change it for you.. computer parts is computer parts.. i dont know how the seller terms and condition for warranty.. but if buy from shop, they give 1 week 1-to-1 warranty.. if you stated clearly about the warranty thing, no one will complain about it..
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J,Boy Saturday 3pm is ur deadline............ dont disappoint us. Full refund.
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Ok J,Boy it is saturday, last week (friday) you said you were selling your handphone to pay me back. You said you would at least put some money that night of the sale or the day after and then give you 1 week so you can get our salary so if there was any balance left you will pay today.

The day after you insisted that your brother paid in RM200. You insisted that you can fax me the receipt. I waited till monday and even gave you my fax number.

You said a lot of things, made a lot of promises and gave a thousand and one excuses.

There is no more extension. Several friends has ask me to take stern action against you. But I gave you the benifit of the doubt the whole time.

It is do or die. Come 3pm today we all will know whether you are a liar or not.
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bro RangerRed update us at 3pm.
jboy please think many2 times before you attempt anything!
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bro RangerRed i think you should starts doing something already. no point of listening to jboy/moppy. i got very bad experiences with moppy and trust me they wont bother calling you or inform you anything if got delay! i think you given them extra so many days already.
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I am now taking recommandations for action against them. Please post here.
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Start with a police report.
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ya Police Report is The best way to know where the 3 nick name is same peole or not and prevent form lyn getting more conman here
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ya police report is recommended against this kind of con man they thinks we afraid to report i tell u pls go ahead this kind of ppl like jboy or is it moppy(same person) dry.gif ph34r.gif need to teach a lesson before con ppl money like that mad.gif

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I'll try and help you track these guys down as I think I know who they are. Maybe I can recommend you to the company's solicitator / lawyer. PM me.

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I Think This Guys Just Ignore What u Say lah RangerRed!
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bro ranger red,
i would suggest to you go filed a police report 1st. if this jboy really sincere in paying you back he should have update you from time to time and also a simple phone call telling you he got this problem or that problem will do but as usual jboy/moppy both using same irresponsible delay tactics.


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or maybe bcos the jboy or moppy is the same person with 2 different personality????
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Jul 3 2006, 07:57 AM)
or maybe bcos the jboy or moppy is the same person with 2 different personality????
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well i got no proofs showing these 2 persons is the same guy but i deal with moppy end of last year and indeed all the informartion i received from moppy is exactly the same as what bro rangered received from jboy. anyway there's another thread by moppy explaining the situation already.
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bro ranger red,
why don you call him for a last warning then proceed to lodge a police report !
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this is why the world needs "the punisher" kinda fella

reading all the post in dispute really boils me over

although i was born with great empathy,

its scumbags like this really burns me up

Really ,
this case has been dragin on for almost a month

if i were you, rangerred, i go down to where he is and confront 'im face to face.

sincere ignorance is ok,
blardy pulling ppls' leg purposely is just #$@%%^#
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ranger red im a lil bit confused here. u said that u bank in the money to moppy? isnt that moppy is the 1 holding the money rite now and not
J,boy?

p.s, world cup gonna end soon. after dis few matches hope he will be winning sum money on betting to return u lor. tongue.gif or mayb he'd lose ur money? ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

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it's either posting in a LAN or the same person.
assumption, assumption that's what i can give
salute to rangerred for being cool. wink.gif

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QUOTE(Scavengers @ Jul 3 2006, 11:59 PM)
it's either posting in a LAN or the same person.
assumption, assumption that's what i can give
salute to rangerred for being cool. wink.gif
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i guess that what both of them will say..... "we have nothing to do with each other although we're sharing the same IP" yawn.gif
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i thinks is the same person with 2 different mind???? LOL
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How serious are you about paying me back J,Boy?
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 4 2006, 02:55 PM)
How serious are you about paying me back J,Boy?
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As promised something to read. I ask Moppy aka J,Boy that if he truely believes in his friend J,Boy then he would swear an oath to me:

Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Mon Jul 03 13:06:33 2006
[13:06] Jason Lee: Good afternoon
[13:07] scorping: Afternoon
[13:08] Jason Lee: I`m moppy ere
[13:08] Jason Lee: u can call me jason also
[13:08] Jason Lee: you there
[13:09] scorping: yeah
[13:09] scorping: i know u r both moppy n j,boy
[13:09] Jason Lee: kekekeke
[13:09] Jason Lee: no point for me to explain
[13:09] Jason Lee: but we are not the same
[13:10] Jason Lee: is there anyhow u can just give him a chance
[13:10] Jason Lee: cos if u wan to push him so much also no point
[13:10] scorping: i have yet to see even a partical payment
[13:10] Jason Lee: btw just to let u know his phone is bared
[13:11] Jason Lee: so he can`t call you
[13:12] Jason Lee: ok, maybe i will ask him to make some first
[13:12] Jason Lee: other then this matter is there anyhow to settle it
[13:12] Jason Lee: cos i know now he don`t have that much cash
[13:13] scorping: to settle it he must post in the one of my threads when n how much he intends to pay
[13:13] Jason Lee: hmm...
[13:13] scorping: that means also whatever scheme he wants
[13:14] scorping: like 200 a week or month or whatever
[13:14] Jason Lee: wah!!!
[13:14] Jason Lee: u r that good
[13:14] Jason Lee: 200 a month
[13:14] scorping: n the exact date n time the amount to be paid
[13:14] Jason Lee: i can`t take it la
[13:14] Jason Lee: i talk to him
[13:15] Jason Lee: then i will msn u ok
[13:15] scorping: that means he wants to settle he has to post in one of the thread E.G. I will pay on 4th of every month rm200 until the rm700 is completely paid up starting from today
[13:16] scorping: for example
[13:16] scorping: but it has to be black n white in the disput thread
[13:16] Jason Lee: i wan to ask u la
[13:16] Jason Lee: what is the point you wan him to post it
[13:16] scorping: n i will audit my account with a screenshot every month 1 day before n 1 day so ppl can see if he did pay in
[13:17] scorping: so ppl can see
[13:17] scorping: complete transparancy
[13:17] Jason Lee: why don`t like that , i will promise you by this 3 weeks(just for in case) u will get the LCD or the money for sure
[13:18] scorping: u promise? there is no proof of ur promise u know
[13:18] Jason Lee: can you just believe me once more
[13:18] Jason Lee: it depends to you
[13:19] scorping: do u swear on ur father's and mother's life that j,boy will pay by 3 weeks
[13:19] Jason Lee: I don`t mind
[13:19] Jason Lee: but why must said my parents out
[13:19] Jason Lee: if i swear wf myself it`s ok
[13:20] Jason Lee: pls.. we are not kids anymore
[13:20] Jason Lee: if i`m not wrong you are 20 ++ already so do i
[13:20] scorping: thats right
[13:20] scorping: swearing on ur parents' life is a serious thing
[13:20] Jason Lee: i know
[13:20] scorping: it means u absoluely believe in j,boy
[13:20] Jason Lee: that why i said
[13:21] Jason Lee: yes i do
[13:21] scorping: then swear it here
[13:21] Jason Lee: cos i know him since 12 years old
[13:21] scorping: i want to see those words
[13:21] Jason Lee: why not like that
[13:21] scorping: i then i will close both threads for 3 weeks
[13:21] scorping: i will not post in either of them
[13:22] Jason Lee: I swear that he will give you in this 3 weeks if not my life is yours
[13:22] scorping: until 3 weeks is up
[13:22] scorping: Add ur parents' life in
[13:22] scorping: I will not kill u or them if he does not pay up
[13:23] scorping: when u die, god will judge u n ur parents for believing in j,boy
[13:23] scorping: it will be a mark on ur soul so to speak
[13:23] Jason Lee: why don`t like that can u swear that u will close all the thread you open by swearing on ur parents' life
[13:23] scorping: should ur friend fail to u to keep his promise to me
[13:24] Jason Lee: plssplss
[13:24] Jason Lee: don`t play wf parents
[13:24] Jason Lee: this is the first time i`m having a chat
[13:25] Jason Lee: but never thought that u will be that mean
[13:25] scorping: I swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me back RM700 in 3 weeks starting from today i will close both threads, confirm he paid me in full n not mention this whole affair again.
[13:25] scorping: I am not that mean
[13:25] scorping: I am serious
[13:25] Jason Lee: wah!!!!
[13:25] scorping: Now how good is ur faith in him?
[13:28] scorping: that means if he pays me within 3 weeks (that means not 3 weeks n 1 day) i will post in my threads j,boy refunded n i will not talk anymore about it n close both threads
[13:29] scorping: that means the whole case will be discuss online or offline with anyone else
[13:30] scorping: well?
[13:31] scorping: Dont take 3 weeks to decide
[13:41] scorping: i'll be out until 7pm
[13:42] scorping: maybe u're have answer by then
[14:36] Jason Lee: soli
[14:36] Jason Lee: just came back from outside
[14:36] Jason Lee: online or off it`s depends to you
[14:36] Jason Lee: i don`t really mind that much cos those ppl started to api j,boy and myself
[14:38] scorping: so has j,boy accepted the condition?
[14:38] scorping: or have u?
[14:48] scorping: Still thinking?
[14:48] scorping: oh well
[14:56] scorping: If he wants to give a LCD in exchange for money i know someone that will collect it n post it to me.
[14:57] scorping: of course the lcd has to be at least the same model offered or higher
[14:57] scorping: but totally flawless
[14:57] scorping: but the swearing on parents still applies
[19:57] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Mon Jul 03 19:57:21 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Tue Jul 04 12:56:38 2006
[12:57] scorping: I guess J,Boy is not sincere about giving me any amount of money back
[12:57] scorping: I also would mind RM200 a month as long as he swears he will pay on the same day every month without fail. Swear an oath on his parents' lives that is.
[14:55] scorping: go read trade dispute section
[17:39] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Tue Jul 04 17:39:48 2006.


Well whatever dude. Come tomorrow you will love what's gonna happen next.
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Hmm... I am a little concern here... Will he accuse u of threatening him later on? And IMHO i would rather get my money back instead of getting a "new" LCD... might give you more migraine later. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 4 2006, 07:24 PM)
As promised something to read. I ask Moppy aka J,Boy that if he truely believes in his friend J,Boy then he would swear an oath to me:

Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Mon Jul 03 13:06:33 2006
[13:06] Jason Lee: Good afternoon
[13:07] scorping: Afternoon
[13:08] Jason Lee: I`m moppy ere
[13:08] Jason Lee: u can call me jason also
[13:08] Jason Lee: you there
[13:09] scorping: yeah
[13:09] scorping: i know u r both moppy n j,boy
[13:09] Jason Lee: kekekeke
[13:09] Jason Lee: no point for me to explain

[13:09] Jason Lee: but we are not the same
[13:10] Jason Lee: is there anyhow u can just give him a chance
[13:10] Jason Lee: cos if u wan to push him so much also no point
[13:10] scorping: i have yet to see even a partical payment
[13:10] Jason Lee: btw just to let u know his phone is bared
[13:11] Jason Lee: so he can`t call you
[13:12] Jason Lee: ok, maybe i will ask him to make some first
[13:12] Jason Lee: other then this matter is there anyhow to settle it
[13:12] Jason Lee: cos i know now he don`t have that much cash
[13:13] scorping: to settle it he must post in the one of my threads when n how much he intends to pay
[13:13] Jason Lee: hmm...
[13:13] scorping: that means also whatever scheme he wants
[13:14] scorping: like 200 a week or month or whatever
[13:14] Jason Lee: wah!!!
[13:14] Jason Lee: u r that good
[13:14] Jason Lee: 200 a month
[13:14] scorping: n the exact date n time the amount to be paid
[13:14] Jason Lee: i can`t take it la
[13:14] Jason Lee: i talk to him
[13:15] Jason Lee: then i will msn u ok
[13:15] scorping: that means he wants to settle he has to post in one of the thread E.G. I will pay on 4th of every month rm200 until the rm700 is completely paid up starting from today
[13:16] scorping: for example
[13:16] scorping: but it has to be black n white in the disput thread
[13:16] Jason Lee: i wan to ask u la
[13:16] Jason Lee: what is the point you wan him to post it
[13:16] scorping: n i will audit my account with a screenshot every month 1 day before n 1 day so ppl can see if he did pay in
[13:17] scorping: so ppl can see
[13:17] scorping: complete transparancy
[13:17] Jason Lee: why don`t like that , i will promise you by this 3 weeks(just for in case) u will get the LCD or the money  for sure
[13:18] scorping: u promise? there is no proof of ur promise u know
[13:18] Jason Lee: can you just  believe me once more
[13:18] Jason Lee: it depends to you
[13:19] scorping: do u swear on ur father's and mother's life that j,boy will pay by 3 weeks
[13:19] Jason Lee: I don`t mind
[13:19] Jason Lee: but why must said my parents out
[13:19] Jason Lee: if i swear wf myself it`s ok
[13:20] Jason Lee: pls.. we are not kids anymore
[13:20] Jason Lee: if i`m not wrong you are 20 ++ already so do i
[13:20] scorping: thats right
[13:20] scorping: swearing on ur parents' life is a serious thing
[13:20] Jason Lee: i know
[13:20] scorping: it means u absoluely believe in j,boy
[13:20] Jason Lee: that why i said
[13:21] Jason Lee: yes i do
[13:21] scorping: then swear it here
[13:21] Jason Lee: cos i know him since 12 years old
[13:21] scorping: i want to see those words
[13:21] Jason Lee: why not like that
[13:21] scorping: i then i will close both threads for 3 weeks
[13:21] scorping: i will not post in either of them
[13:22] Jason Lee: I swear that he will give you in this 3 weeks if not my life is yours
[13:22] scorping: until 3 weeks is up
[13:22] scorping: Add ur parents' life in
[13:22] scorping: I will not kill u or them if he does not pay up
[13:23] scorping: when u die, god will judge u n ur parents for believing in j,boy
[13:23] scorping: it will be a mark on ur soul so to speak
[13:23] Jason Lee: why don`t like that can u swear that u will close all the thread you open by swearing on ur parents' life
[13:23] scorping: should ur friend fail to u to keep his promise to me
[13:24] Jason Lee: plssplss
[13:24] Jason Lee: don`t play wf parents
[13:24] Jason Lee: this is the first time i`m having a chat
[13:25] Jason Lee: but never thought that u will be that mean
[13:25] scorping: I swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me back RM700 in 3 weeks starting from today i will close both threads, confirm he paid me in full n not mention this whole affair again.
[13:25] scorping: I am not that mean
[13:25] scorping: I am serious
[13:25] Jason Lee: wah!!!!
[13:25] scorping: Now how good is ur faith in him?
[13:28] scorping: that means if he pays me within 3 weeks (that means not 3 weeks n 1 day) i will post in my threads j,boy refunded n i will not talk anymore about it n close both threads
[13:29] scorping: that means the whole case will be discuss online or offline with anyone else
[13:30] scorping: well?
[13:31] scorping: Dont take 3 weeks to decide
[13:41] scorping: i'll be out until 7pm
[13:42] scorping: maybe u're have answer by then
[14:36] Jason Lee: soli
[14:36] Jason Lee: just came back from outside
[14:36] Jason Lee: online or off it`s depends to you
[14:36] Jason Lee: i don`t really mind that much cos those ppl started to api j,boy and myself
[14:38] scorping: so has j,boy accepted the condition?
[14:38] scorping: or have u?
[14:48] scorping: Still thinking?
[14:48] scorping: oh well
[14:56] scorping: If he wants to give a LCD in exchange for money i know someone that will collect it n post it to me.
[14:57] scorping: of course the lcd has to be at least the same model offered or higher
[14:57] scorping: but totally flawless
[14:57] scorping: but the swearing on parents still applies
[19:57] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Mon Jul 03 19:57:21 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Tue Jul 04 12:56:38 2006
[12:57] scorping: I guess J,Boy is not sincere about giving me any amount of money back
[12:57] scorping: I also would mind RM200 a month as long as he swears he will pay on the same day every month without fail. Swear an oath on his parents' lives that is.
[14:55] scorping: go read trade dispute section
[17:39] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Tue Jul 04 17:39:48 2006.
Well whatever dude. Come tomorrow you will love what's gonna happen next.
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too bad you didnt realized how good was bro rangerred and how kind was he all these while. so you just sit tight there enjoy and see what will ppl do to you.
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yep i thinks better take money back ranger because if later LCD still have problem then u still need to deal with this jboy/moppy fella and u still need to wait dont know how long will get the LCD back from warranty loo ...
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jst meet up with jason today to collect the LCD
jst back from rma
seem fine working the lcd

sad to see the case drag so long
i have been through this
conclusion is next time COD and check for item that u think it expensive


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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 4 2006, 07:24 PM)
As promised something to read. I ask Moppy aka J,Boy that if he truely believes in his friend J,Boy then he would swear an oath to me:

Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Mon Jul 03 13:06:33 2006
[13:06] Jason Lee: Good afternoon
[13:07] scorping: Afternoon
[13:08] Jason Lee: I`m moppy ere
[13:08] Jason Lee: u can call me jason also
[13:08] Jason Lee: you there
[13:09] scorping: yeah
[13:09] scorping: i know u r both moppy n j,boy
[13:09] Jason Lee: kekekeke
[13:09] Jason Lee: no point for me to explain
[13:09] Jason Lee: but we are not the same
[13:10] Jason Lee: is there anyhow u can just give him a chance
[13:10] Jason Lee: cos if u wan to push him so much also no point
[13:10] scorping: i have yet to see even a partical payment
[13:10] Jason Lee: btw just to let u know his phone is bared
[13:11] Jason Lee: so he can`t call you
[13:12] Jason Lee: ok, maybe i will ask him to make some first
[13:12] Jason Lee: other then this matter is there anyhow to settle it
[13:12] Jason Lee: cos i know now he don`t have that much cash
[13:13] scorping: to settle it he must post in the one of my threads when n how much he intends to pay
[13:13] Jason Lee: hmm...
[13:13] scorping: that means also whatever scheme he wants
[13:14] scorping: like 200 a week or month or whatever
[13:14] Jason Lee: wah!!!
[13:14] Jason Lee: u r that good
[13:14] Jason Lee: 200 a month
[13:14] scorping: n the exact date n time the amount to be paid
[13:14] Jason Lee: i can`t take it la
[13:14] Jason Lee: i talk to him
[13:15] Jason Lee: then i will msn u ok
[13:15] scorping: that means he wants to settle he has to post in one of the thread E.G. I will pay on 4th of every month rm200 until the rm700 is completely paid up starting from today
[13:16] scorping: for example
[13:16] scorping: but it has to be black n white in the disput thread
[13:16] Jason Lee: i wan to ask u la
[13:16] Jason Lee: what is the point you wan him to post it
[13:16] scorping: n i will audit my account with a screenshot every month 1 day before n 1 day so ppl can see if he did pay in
[13:17] scorping: so ppl can see
[13:17] scorping: complete transparancy
[13:17] Jason Lee: why don`t like that , i will promise you by this 3 weeks(just for in case) u will get the LCD or the money  for sure
[13:18] scorping: u promise? there is no proof of ur promise u know
[13:18] Jason Lee: can you just  believe me once more
[13:18] Jason Lee: it depends to you
[13:19] scorping: do u swear on ur father's and mother's life that j,boy will pay by 3 weeks
[13:19] Jason Lee: I don`t mind
[13:19] Jason Lee: but why must said my parents out
[13:19] Jason Lee: if i swear wf myself it`s ok
[13:20] Jason Lee: pls.. we are not kids anymore
[13:20] Jason Lee: if i`m not wrong you are 20 ++ already so do i
[13:20] scorping: thats right
[13:20] scorping: swearing on ur parents' life is a serious thing
[13:20] Jason Lee: i know
[13:20] scorping: it means u absoluely believe in j,boy
[13:20] Jason Lee: that why i said
[13:21] Jason Lee: yes i do
[13:21] scorping: then swear it here
[13:21] Jason Lee: cos i know him since 12 years old
[13:21] scorping: i want to see those words
[13:21] Jason Lee: why not like that
[13:21] scorping: i then i will close both threads for 3 weeks
[13:21] scorping: i will not post in either of them
[13:22] Jason Lee: I swear that he will give you in this 3 weeks if not my life is yours
[13:22] scorping: until 3 weeks is up
[13:22] scorping: Add ur parents' life in
[13:22] scorping: I will not kill u or them if he does not pay up
[13:23] scorping: when u die, god will judge u n ur parents for believing in j,boy
[13:23] scorping: it will be a mark on ur soul so to speak
[13:23] Jason Lee: why don`t like that can u swear that u will close all the thread you open by swearing on ur parents' life
[13:23] scorping: should ur friend fail to u to keep his promise to me
[13:24] Jason Lee: plssplss
[13:24] Jason Lee: don`t play wf parents
[13:24] Jason Lee: this is the first time i`m having a chat
[13:25] Jason Lee: but never thought that u will be that mean
[13:25] scorping: I swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me back RM700 in 3 weeks starting from today i will close both threads, confirm he paid me in full n not mention this whole affair again.
[13:25] scorping: I am not that mean
[13:25] scorping: I am serious
[13:25] Jason Lee: wah!!!!
[13:25] scorping: Now how good is ur faith in him?
[13:28] scorping: that means if he pays me within 3 weeks (that means not 3 weeks n 1 day) i will post in my threads j,boy refunded n i will not talk anymore about it n close both threads
[13:29] scorping: that means the whole case will be discuss online or offline with anyone else
[13:30] scorping: well?
[13:31] scorping: Dont take 3 weeks to decide
[13:41] scorping: i'll be out until 7pm
[13:42] scorping: maybe u're have answer by then
[14:36] Jason Lee: soli
[14:36] Jason Lee: just came back from outside
[14:36] Jason Lee: online or off it`s depends to you
[14:36] Jason Lee: i don`t really mind that much cos those ppl started to api j,boy and myself
[14:38] scorping: so has j,boy accepted the condition?
[14:38] scorping: or have u?
[14:48] scorping: Still thinking?
[14:48] scorping: oh well
[14:56] scorping: If he wants to give a LCD in exchange for money i know someone that will collect it n post it to me.
[14:57] scorping: of course the lcd has to be at least the same model offered or higher
[14:57] scorping: but totally flawless
[14:57] scorping: but the swearing on parents still applies
[19:57] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Mon Jul 03 19:57:21 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Tue Jul 04 12:56:38 2006
[12:57] scorping: I guess J,Boy is not sincere about giving me any amount of money back
[12:57] scorping: I also would mind RM200 a month as long as he swears he will pay on the same day every month without fail. Swear an oath on his parents' lives that is.
[14:55] scorping: go read trade dispute section

[17:39] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Tue Jul 04 17:39:48 2006.
Well whatever dude. Come tomorrow you will love what's gonna happen next.
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moppy that maybe possible but none the less u offered no serious solution only excuses.
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Can see very obvious that he don;t want to take responsible
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Since u do not want to offer any serious solution i have to create a serious solution.
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Ranger, if i were u, i will lodge a police report to make thing settle faster, no point wasting so much time here since u already tried hard to settle it here but thing don;t work out
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moppy has 'assured' me on J,Boy's refund of my RM700 in 3 weeks. Hence forth I'll shall make no comment until then.

But really is the last chance as the 'assurance' seriousness states it.
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since bro rangerred worked out 1 more last solution with moppy/jboy then i think it's better if you just create a new thread/post to settle your dispute there because both also separate cases even though same seller. just my 2cents opinion only no hard feelings here.
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once againt i think u all know now who is moppy and jboy i think after this case settle u all better don deal with them coz seen like alot complaint about this 2 guys
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 5 2006, 12:29 PM)
moppy has 'assured' me on J,Boy's refund of my RM700 in 3 weeks. Hence forth I'll shall make no comment until then.

But really is the last chance as the 'assurance' seriousness states it.
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i don;t think it will work, i sure they will push you around, just to waste ur time. Later J.Boy ask you to get refund from moppy and later moppy ask u get refund from J.boy. doh.gif. They should also compensate you with extra money, u waste so much effort&money to call them doh.gif

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QUOTE(woodykids @ Jul 6 2006, 02:30 AM)
i don;t think it will work, i sure they will push you around, just to waste ur time. Later J.Boy ask you to get refund from moppy and later moppy ask u get refund from J.boy.  doh.gif. They should also compensate you with extra money, u waste so much effort&money to call them doh.gif
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I agree....already 4 Months he still not yet REFUND my money.

This moppy only talk nonsense.

Here is my case still pending:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=266011

I don't know why the moderator still allow him to trade in LYN.
He should be RED carded longtime ago !!
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he should ban from lyn, causing so much problem,a lot of ppl lose money. u can try to discuss with the moderator y still letting him trade. i am also a bit curios on this point
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(remind again)

*this guy not refund me RM240.
NO COD ..NO WELCOME , u just bankin to me .


case by case .
Please stop calling me again! and don't came find me .


threaten in my PM.

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wah lau people give chance to moppy/jboy u come here put fire ............
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QUOTE(robert88 @ Jul 6 2006, 09:31 AM)
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wah lau people give chance to moppy/jboy u come here put fire ............
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when people give chance?
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hahahahahaha

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You are a very funny guy

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still think i create another nick?
yeah,yeah... u really SICK.

*think, who is your enemy that u con!

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And please don't advertise my name , am I so famous here?

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Ok ok...... no more fighting for 3 weeks. Lets keep it to my thread's topic for 3 weeks. Then u all can push the safeties off ur M4a1 ok?
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Just a quick update: Nothing so far.
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hi ranger i thinks u should take some action if after 9 days still not paid...
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bro rangerred i really hope you all the best because i dont wanna stir up anything. mr jboy promised 3 weeks to refund you and yet not even 1 sms or call from him at all and there goes his sincerity...
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moppy said jboy was sick today.
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super macgyver, i am sick everyday... Vit M defincientcy....
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Cant... if i promise to wait until the 26th then i will keep my promise to wait until then.
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Bro RangerRed, good luck to u... smile.gif
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Hi!!!.. still not solved ur problem?? by the way good luck to you.. very patient aaa..

P/s :- I realize that the board are not same wit urs, now thinking what to to wit it.. GC, totaled, no display, can't boot.. HDD also.. can't work... ur RAID card not test yet.. by the way.. thanks for the item...
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gerrard capashen, oh sry about the hdd.. i know u were really excited about ... sad.gif u cant find another same dead hdd to exchange the circuit boards? The gc at least u can desolder the rams tongue.gif put it on another card hhehehehe. But i am surprised that there is no display since i managed to get display.... u do know u have to plug the floppy power cable into the side of the card? Well i told u the cpus work... n if u want some more old size sdrams like 4, 16, 32, 64 let me know... they r still lying around.
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4 days left to D-day n not a peek, a fart, a whisper, a crotch rub of my refund.
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If this kind of case keep repeating in lyn. I think no people of setup bulk order. Better get direct from shop.
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Gonna pm/ sms both moppy n j,boy... let 'them' know that time is getting short.

Wait... j,boy phone barred i heard....
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10 days already, so how now ??? get ur $$$ back already ???
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Dear Jboy and Moppy

I think better go for refund la.Kesian this guy liao.
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Lets take a vote: How many of you think that Moppy fails to keep his promise that J,Boy will pay me?

Vote: Yes or No.

You can also post your reason on why you voted that way.

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bro rangerred when is the 3 weeks extension due?

well i personally see jboy not sincere at all because you gave him 3 weeks extension for refund and yet he didnt even give you a call/sms at all. everythnig was deal through moppy. always moppy telling us jboy got this and that problems and i dont see why cant just jboy give rangerred a call. and the promise was given by moppy on jboy's behalf. just curious only where is jboy now or maybe we should ask moppy and again moppy can tell us what jboy wants.

anyway jboy consider yourself very lucky coz rangerred is nice nad understanding.
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This guy know him verywell tongue.gif

QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jul 17 2006, 02:30 PM)
moppy said jboy was sick today.
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Jul 25 2006, 06:21 PM)
This guy know him verywell  tongue.gif
That's an open secret. laugh.gif

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this jboy is moppy clone i 100% sure of it rclxm9.gif 2 brain in 1 person that why he can interact with each other and i vote no bcos i dont trust this person at all..... rolleyes.gif
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tomorrow 11:59pm is the deadline for the money to appear in my account.
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Does him sama gang with ADMIN ? Weird.

Why not taking action??
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because

The moderators are not here to resolve your disputes, neither are they here to help you out. This subforum is for you to resolve your disputes in an organised and easy to follow manner.

thats why their not replying.
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So what is it that you would like the Admins to do?
Should they track him down through his ip address and go catch him and throw him in jail? rclxms.gif
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ban + blacklist him .
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cannot ban yet lah ... if ban, how he going to answer at here ...
RangerRed still need moppy or jboy to give an answer tomorrow ~
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Jul 25 2006, 06:21 PM)
This guy know him verywell  tongue.gif
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why those blacklist guy is your friend? Untrust.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=7423115

(sm is he or she ? jadi ... )


12hr countdown.. sweat.gif

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1 more hour to go. hope the seller is able to clear the hutang on time. erk wait. still need to process on the deposit right? so he has to attach a bank in slip?
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Hope the seller can settle it today ~ everybody happy ^v^
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so rangerred did jboy refund you yet? or maybe moppy will give you another reason again and need another extension for jboy again.
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Jul 26 2006, 02:17 AM)
why those blacklist guy is your friend?  Untrust.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=7423115

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Am told it will be done before 11:30pm. Otherwise, Moppy will do 'something'.
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miraged, i didnt catch that. Did you say you enjoy other people's misfortune?
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i'm sorry if i didn't make myself clearer. it was 'entertaining' for me to see how these ppl just fail to live up to their promises.
they promise so much and after they get the cash the go AWOL, not replying any sms or pms or posts directed to them.

i'm sorry if i've offended you. for me to take such time to read all 8 pages of this topic shows how sorry i am i feel for u . i'm also amazed at how calm u remain after a month of waiting and waiting for such a large sum of money (IMO) to be returned to its rightful owner.

i again apologise for the tactless comment i've made above. sad.gif
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Ahh when there are two misunderstandings here. I reject your apology since you didn't mean what you said in malice and i offer mine for jumping on your head.
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nah.. u've got every right to jump on my head...
700 buckaroos lost for almost a month.. and as calm and patient as u are... my hat's off to you.

all the best dude.
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11:26pm n not money.
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Jul 25 2006, 10:55 PM)
ban + blacklist him .
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It's not anyone else's fault the deadline was extended
Ban and blacklist him even if the deadline is not over yet?
Ahh...didn't stop to think did you?

Yes now you can ask the mods to put him in the list, if it actually matters
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Will check in 1 hr again. If not then I'll the msn chat log of my agreement with moppy and then you can see what's what.
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how how how?got money?
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1:09am and no cash.

Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Mon Jul 03 13:06:33 2006
[13:06] Jason Lee: Good afternoon
[13:07] scorping: Afternoon
[13:08] Jason Lee: I`m moppy ere
[13:08] Jason Lee: u can call me jason also
[13:08] Jason Lee: you there
[13:09] scorping: yeah
[13:09] scorping: i know u r both moppy n j,boy
[13:09] Jason Lee: kekekeke
[13:09] Jason Lee: no point for me to explain
[13:09] Jason Lee: but we are not the same
[13:10] Jason Lee: is there anyhow u can just give him a chance
[13:10] Jason Lee: cos if u wan to push him so much also no point
[13:10] scorping: i have yet to see even a partical payment
[13:10] Jason Lee: btw just to let u know his phone is bared
[13:11] Jason Lee: so he can`t call you
[13:12] Jason Lee: ok, maybe i will ask him to make some first
[13:12] Jason Lee: other then this matter is there anyhow to settle it
[13:12] Jason Lee: cos i know now he don`t have that much cash
[13:13] scorping: to settle it he must post in the one of my threads when n how much he intends to pay
[13:13] Jason Lee: hmm...
[13:13] scorping: that means also whatever scheme he wants
[13:14] scorping: like 200 a week or month or whatever
[13:14] Jason Lee: wah!!!
[13:14] Jason Lee: u r that good
[13:14] Jason Lee: 200 a month
[13:14] scorping: n the exact date n time the amount to be paid
[13:14] Jason Lee: i can`t take it la
[13:14] Jason Lee: i talk to him
[13:15] Jason Lee: then i will msn u ok
[13:15] scorping: that means he wants to settle he has to post in one of the thread E.G. I will pay on 4th of every month rm200 until the rm700 is completely paid up starting from today
[13:16] scorping: for example
[13:16] scorping: but it has to be black n white in the disput thread
[13:16] Jason Lee: i wan to ask u la
[13:16] Jason Lee: what is the point you wan him to post it
[13:16] scorping: n i will audit my account with a screenshot every month 1 day before n 1 day so ppl can see if he did pay in
[13:17] scorping: so ppl can see
[13:17] scorping: complete transparancy
[13:17] Jason Lee: why don`t like that , i will promise you by this 3 weeks(just for in case) u will get the LCD or the money for sure
[13:18] scorping: u promise? there is no proof of ur promise u know
[13:18] Jason Lee: can you just believe me once more
[13:18] Jason Lee: it depends to you
[13:19] scorping: do u swear on ur father's and mother's life that j,boy will pay by 3 weeks
[13:19] Jason Lee: I don`t mind
[13:19] Jason Lee: but why must said my parents out
[13:19] Jason Lee: if i swear wf myself it`s ok
[13:20] Jason Lee: pls.. we are not kids anymore
[13:20] Jason Lee: if i`m not wrong you are 20 ++ already so do i
[13:20] scorping: thats right
[13:20] scorping: swearing on ur parents' life is a serious thing
[13:20] Jason Lee: i know
[13:20] scorping: it means u absoluely believe in j,boy
[13:20] Jason Lee: that why i said
[13:21] Jason Lee: yes i do
[13:21] scorping: then swear it here
[13:21] Jason Lee: cos i know him since 12 years old
[13:21] scorping: i want to see those words
[13:21] Jason Lee: why not like that
[13:21] scorping: i then i will close both threads for 3 weeks
[13:21] scorping: i will not post in either of them
[13:22] Jason Lee: I swear that he will give you in this 3 weeks if not my life is yours
[13:22] scorping: until 3 weeks is up
[13:22] scorping: Add ur parents' life in
[13:22] scorping: I will not kill u or them if he does not pay up
[13:23] scorping: when u die, god will judge u n ur parents for believing in j,boy
[13:23] scorping: it will be a mark on ur soul so to speak
[13:23] Jason Lee: why don`t like that can u swear that u will close all the thread you open by swearing on ur parents' life
[13:23] scorping: should ur friend fail to u to keep his promise to me
[13:24] Jason Lee: plssplss
[13:24] Jason Lee: don`t play wf parents
[13:24] Jason Lee: this is the first time i`m having a chat
[13:25] Jason Lee: but never thought that u will be that mean
[13:25] scorping: I swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me back RM700 in 3 weeks starting from today i will close both threads, confirm he paid me in full n not mention this whole affair again.
[13:25] scorping: I am not that mean
[13:25] scorping: I am serious
[13:25] Jason Lee: wah!!!!
[13:25] scorping: Now how good is ur faith in him?
[13:28] scorping: that means if he pays me within 3 weeks (that means not 3 weeks n 1 day) i will post in my threads j,boy refunded n i will not talk anymore about it n close both threads
[13:29] scorping: that means the whole case will be discuss online or offline with anyone else
[13:30] scorping: well?
[13:31] scorping: Dont take 3 weeks to decide
[13:41] scorping: i'll be out until 7pm
[13:42] scorping: maybe u're have answer by then
[14:36] Jason Lee: soli
[14:36] Jason Lee: just came back from outside
[14:36] Jason Lee: online or off it`s depends to you
[14:36] Jason Lee: i don`t really mind that much cos those ppl started to api j,boy and myself
[14:38] scorping: so has j,boy accepted the condition?
[14:38] scorping: or have u?
[14:48] scorping: Still thinking?
[14:48] scorping: oh well
[14:56] scorping: If he wants to give a LCD in exchange for money i know someone that will collect it n post it to me.
[14:57] scorping: of course the lcd has to be at least the same model offered or higher
[14:57] scorping: but totally flawless
[14:57] scorping: but the swearing on parents still applies
[19:57] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Mon Jul 03 19:57:21 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Tue Jul 04 12:56:38 2006
[12:57] scorping: I guess J,Boy is not sincere about giving me any amount of money back
[12:57] scorping: I also would mind RM200 a month as long as he swears he will pay on the same day every month without fail. Swear an oath on his parents' lives that is.
[14:55] scorping: go read trade dispute section
[17:39] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Tue Jul 04 17:39:48 2006.
[02:11] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 05 02:11:17 2006.
[03:41] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 05 03:41:02 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Wed Jul 05 10:59:53 2006
[10:59] Jason Lee: Morning
[11:00] Jason Lee: so how or what u wan me to do
[11:00] scorping: make the oath
[11:00] scorping: no real man will lie on his parents' lives
[11:01] Jason Lee: fine!!!!
[11:04] Jason Lee: I swear wf my parents live , J,boy confirm make payment to you in this 3 weeks, And all the f***ers in lyn that talk alot will not live peace for next 2 month
[11:04] Jason Lee: I swear my parents life
[11:05] Jason Lee: happy wf it
[11:06] scorping: Ok please confirm what i repeat from u
[11:07] scorping: You, moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).
[11:08] scorping: Is this what you are swearing?
[11:09] scorping: Confirm so that I can swear to you my original oath too.
[11:10] Jason Lee: Me moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).

[11:10] scorping: Thank you.
[11:11] Jason Lee: smile.gif
[11:12] Jason Lee: i don`t really understand why u wan to post all our msn history in the forum
[11:12] Jason Lee: make me quite piss off
[11:13] Jason Lee: but i can`t do anything
[11:13] scorping: Then I, RangerRed (Dieter Chan) swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me the RM700 in the agreed time that you, moppy, swore too, then I will not discuss the topic of our problem online or offline. Nor will I comment on your character/personality to other forumers if they ask about you other than you kept your promise that I was refunded.
[11:14] scorping: Do you accept those terms?
[11:14] Jason Lee: it`s total is find wf me
[11:15] scorping: Done and done. Oaths are not accepted.
[11:15] scorping: i mean accepted tongue.gif
[11:15] scorping: Was daydreaming a bit for a second on what I would do to you when typing
[11:16] Jason Lee: kekekekekeke
[11:16] Jason Lee: i don`t really bother that much
[11:16] scorping: Done and done. The oaths are accepted. Lets hope that in 3 weeks time this black day ends.
[11:16] Jason Lee: cos if you really wan to report a police also it hard for you
[11:17] scorping: I will post on the forum that you have arranged that J,Boy will pay me.

The rest of chat log is as we all say chicken talk.
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and he's still AWOL....
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QUOTE(miraged @ Jul 27 2006, 07:36 AM)
and he's still AWOL....
Any chance super macgyver can help on this? He seems to be in close contact with them (he knows when j,boy falls sick...etc). Not that he is in anyway responsible for this case, of course.
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QUOTE(March05 @ Jul 27 2006, 10:47 AM)
Any chance super macgyver can help on this? He seems to be in close contact with them (he knows when j,boy falls sick...etc). Not that he is in anyway responsible for this case, of course.
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dun know pun, i msn him few time tis morning to reply here, but no response at all. doh.gif
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Remember I did not set the time table. moppy did. I even offered alternative ones.
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so what's ur next course of action?

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What kind of action can you take against a man that swears on his parents' lives with his own time table? I mean, obviously he doesn't care one bit.

But if you believe in super natural forces like god or karma (i believe in karma), he get what he deserves.
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and ur money?
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woodykids, could be. Gotta go to KL i guess for that.

But a few of my friends there will be happy to ask for me the money back. Maybe i'll ask them first.

And moppy's reply:

[14:08] Jason Lee: don`t worry
[14:08] *** Auto-response sent to Jason Lee: I am currently idle.
[14:08] Jason Lee: he will pay u
[14:08] Jason Lee: i`m so damn sure about that
[14:08] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Wed Jul 26 14:08:32 2006.
[14:21] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 26 14:21:42 2006.
[23:20] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 26 23:20:56 2006.
[08:36] *** "Jason Lee" signed on at Thu Jul 27 08:36:34 2006.
[08:37] Jason Lee: i will give u a very very good answer before lunch time
[08:37] *** Auto-response sent to Jason Lee: I am currently away from the computer.
[12:56] scorping: No answer yet
[13:40] scorping: Still waiting
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woodykids.... i dont' get that expression...
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jul 27 2006, 11:11 AM)
dun know pun, i msn him few time tis morning to reply here, but no response at all.  doh.gif
You tried, and you stood by them when it counted, but unfortunately the support is not reciprocated. Not your fault. Time changes people. Even friends.

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i suggest tread starter PLEASE GO REPORT THE POLIS BEFORE TOO LATE , you are waiting quite enough , no point for waiting.

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yea , i suggest report to police also...
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Received a SMS from moppy:

"I know you or someone have just call my company.... i will settle this matter soon"

Wonder what that meant?
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Still waiting there , Ranger? I hope you can do something before it too late, seller are twisting now .
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I got a reply!! 5pm i will know an answer. Is it the big F U C K U or am I gonna get my refund?
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 28 2006, 02:01 PM)
Received a SMS from moppy:

"I know you or someone have just call my company.... i will settle this matter soon"

Wonder what that meant?
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how soon? rangerred already gave you extra 3 weeks extension and yet no call/sms at all to update buyer. how come jboy no longer here? and why always moppy say this and that on jboy's behalf? i thought moppy and jboy working in the same company so jboy must know something and take some initiative to update rangerred.

well both of them claimed using the same person name same bank account and same hp to deal in lowyat so now guess both of them also got mixed up in reality.

* if you really wanna refund rangerred you should have at least pay him some money... rm300 or rm200 or even rm100 sure ppl will accept and give you more time.

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OMG OMG OMG!!!! 9:30pm today i'll get my first rm100!!! OMG!!! OMG!!!
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Anyone know who this number 016 4557687 belongs to please inform me. They are tempting sms harrassment.
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Well from 100 installment it went down to 70 bucks. And even that was never banked in. Moppy sayz that if Chai (J,boy) doesn't pay in he will pay in with his own money.

Anyways come monday i'll probably have to get friendly with the men in blue.
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rangerred i think enough is enough already lah. if he really wanna pay why need extra 3 weeks and then after 3 weeks over still nothing and now pusing sini sana. WTF is rm70? why after 3 weeks now only wanna starts paying rm70 and need 10 months to refund the full rm700? then until this moment still no money at all!

my advice to you just go make a police report. let the police investigate the bank account's owner. let that owner explain to police why moppy and jboy this and that and who took that rm700. you got all the particulars including his workplace and police will be very happy because all information are complete. if really pay then you just withdraw the police report and case close.
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Jul 29 2006, 11:43 AM)
rangerred i think enough is enough already lah.
I also feel that these 2 guys (unless they're as suspected, the same one person) are just stringing you along. They have done everything, endless excuses, apologies, planned payment schedules, etc,.........but not a single thing fulfilled.

Are they still working at Vismart? Or did they ever have any association with this company officially?


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Well as I said come monday i'll get friendly with the men in blue. Not to mention ask Maybank to assist the bank account info i would need.
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ranger bro hope u can get this con man aka moppy/jboy(2 brain in person tongue.gif)
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I hope they burn in hell! vmad.gif Irresponsible ppl

Wish I could help out more sad.gif Anyhow like the rest suggest do make a police report.

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If making police report sure this person will having BIG problem. I think he will lost his job.

For the seller : This kind of money will not make you rich. It is too small amount it justify for the consequent that might happen to you.
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Dude, I've spent like 1/2 hour reading thru the pages, and well.. If it was me who had bought the LCD... I'd already be in the lock up for killing the seller =.=" ( This is not a threat or anything, I'm jez speaking out the feelings I have, So pls don't flame me. )
I now sembah Ranger as one of the most patient ppl here. 700 might not be such a big sum to some, but I think is a big sum to many. I myself live on 700 a month and imagine losing that on smthing u bought but not received???!!
I'd be in the lock up...

If it comes to the cops, hope they manage to catch this guy... at least deter some potential conmen from coming here.. Trading online is all based on trust, if ppl betray that trust.. sooner or later it's gonna be the end for online trading >_<..
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Not wanting to be a busybody here but here's a caution advise to all buying through online without going through proper channels.Since there's no proper way of detecting the creation of multiple accounts by the same user here in this message board, the guy could be still around posting as another forumer in Lowyat.net to sell his stuffs to avoid being caught.He may also have a circle of friends to push his products as well.You may NOT know who is posting behind the computer screen on the other side.

To everyone, you need to be careful with who you're dealing with.

To avoid being tricked into buying from the same seller, get to know what brands he used to push/sell the last time.From there you'll roughly know what items are safe to buy the next time you make an online purchase.If possible use proper channels like ebay.my to buy stuffs.

For example,
If A sells brand V and he got caught for conning people you should be suspicious if another person who comes out and sell the same brand the next time.

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Will be printing the docs needed for the police report... going off to the station around 11am

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that the way ranger go to report this conman aka moppy and his innerself call jboy laugh.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Jul 30 2006, 08:00 PM)
that the way ranger go to report this conman aka moppy and his innerself call jboy laugh.gif  brows.gif
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I guessing he has even more than one account here at Lowyat.net. icon_idea.gif
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We'll see how many threads become dead without replies when he gets caught.
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bro rangerred any latest updates?
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 30 2006, 07:35 PM)
Will be printing the docs needed for the police report... going off to the station around 11am
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met moppy once at his office based in PJ....u can try finding him there / talk to his boss

http://www.vismart.com.my/contact.asp
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I am conducting 2 strategies which will be finished soon. One is a personal strategy and the other is with a few people.

As for Jason's boss. They have made themselves clear that they will not help unless people that took GDEX deliverly from Jason informs them so that they can check their records and take action against him for selling to individuals which is strictly against company's policy.

Basically, they are saying they will not protect him but will not do anything if they can't prove Jason sold their goods to individuals instead of companies like he is suppose to.
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So if anyone has bought something for Jason or would like to help, give his company a call and ask to speak to Calvin. Maybe with enough pressure there Jason may decide to honour his promise to me to pay me back and even the other people he still owes money too.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 3 2006, 01:25 PM)
So if anyone has bought something for Jason or would like to help, give his company a call and ask to speak to Calvin. Maybe with enough pressure there Jason may decide to honour his promise to me to pay me back and even the other people he still owes money too.
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after reading through this thread and this quote, i wish i bought something from him, too bad he was selling CMV. if not i'll be the 1st one to volunteer to help ya.

good luck in your pursue anyway.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 3 2006, 10:14 AM)
As for Jason's boss. They have made themselves clear that they will not help unless people that took GDEX deliverly from Jason informs them so that they can check their records and take action against him for selling to individuals which is strictly against company's policy.

Basically, they are saying they will not protect him but will not do anything if they can't prove Jason sold their goods to individuals instead of companies like he is suppose to.
I can't believe that the company was not aware that Jason has been selling CMV LCDs in the LYN forum for over a year! A case of `tutup satu mata' ke.......





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Have you made police report? What did they say? Are they helpful?

Also, hope that those who already bought monitors from Jason will let the boss know. This way, there will be enough prove to show that he is selling to individuals.

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see his name on so many theread liao .
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ok i've called mr calvin in vismart and spoke to him just now. gave him all my particulars and also the transaction i did with moppy last december.

hope everyone that purchased anything from moppy/jboy please do the same.
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ok i've called mr calvin in vismart and spoke to him just now. gave him all my particulars and also the transaction i did with moppy last december.

hope everyone that purchased anything from moppy/jboy please do the same.
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Did you ask whether they will cover the usual warranty as given by standard purchase? They should, since you guys are a victim of irresponsible seller who got it from valid source.

What I am guessing is this, moppy uses jboy's name to get minimum units (let's say 5 units) from vismart to make it looks like a valid sales to reseller. Then he uses jboy nick to sell it here. He could most probably be using jboy name and account directly himself to deal. The real jboy person is probably his friend or someone who might be getting or not getting any benefit out of this. And when things get sour, he started to scream at everyone and all his irresponsible trait starts to show.

Anyway, that's my speculation only. Regardless, he is still a loser who deserve to lose his job. Or is he still with vismart?
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Actually I believe that he offers his distrobuters or clients a little extra discount if they take 5 units extra (about) and that he'll pay for that extra units himself. So in effect the distro pays only for the units he originally orders and get a little more discount at that too.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Aug 4 2006, 11:56 AM)
Did you ask whether they will cover the usual warranty as given by standard purchase? They should, since you guys are a victim of irresponsible seller who got it from valid source.

What I am guessing is this, moppy uses jboy's name to get minimum units (let's say 5 units) from vismart to make it looks like a valid sales to reseller. Then he uses jboy nick to sell it here. He could most probably be using jboy name and account directly himself to deal. The real jboy person is probably his friend or someone who might be getting or not getting any benefit out of this. And when things get sour, he started to scream at everyone and all his irresponsible trait starts to show.

Anyway, that's my speculation only. Regardless, he is still a loser who deserve to lose his job. Or is he still with vismart?
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warranty still valid for those that purchased from moppy/jboy. but better let rangerred explain and reconfirm on this lah because he spoke to vismart. i cant confirm anything because i just call calvin and told him my transaction with moppy last december.
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As long as you have your warranty card with the Vismart chop on it it's valid at any Vismart branches.
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got another person from vismart selling CMV monitors here...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=319670

i wonder if distributor can sell direct to end-user with that sort of price?
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QUOTE(zamree7 @ Aug 4 2006, 03:35 PM)
got another person from vismart selling CMV monitors here...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=319670

i wonder if distributor can sell direct to end-user with that sort of price?
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mr calvin told me this morning in the phone this user, ECtest is officially from vismart and selling online to public. transaction MUST cash on delivery in vismart office only.
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Cash and Carry. Delivery means they send the goods to you tongue.gif me teach you all the correct terms lol.
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BTW what is ECtest's real name? Someone should ask... not that you go there and you see that idiot in my signature.
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This bugger really thick face la..... Although people already take action he still buat dunno only la.... It really makes me so MAD la

You take people's money and spend it "I dunno where and we dun need to know it either" And then you ask for installment pulak but still you delay.... Now people take action and he rather forgo his 4K a month for what RM700..... So funny leh.....

Flame me all you want but I think this is what everyone whom really spent his/her time reading thru and feeling what our friend RangerRed is going thru..... (furthermore that seems to be your way of expressing yourself anyway!!)

Dun think you can bully people in Penang, la.... Do you know how many people from up North is in KL!!!!!! I am a Penangite too and I really want to hantam this BLxxDDY Bugger!!!!! But we are all law abiding people. You have my support RangerRed, I suggest you group up with all other victims to make a stronger case

How I wish this can be a much more peaceful and harmonious world

P/S- I didn't just create my account..... I only have one account (I joined this website because then I wanted to bid for a MoBo and a proc) and I am more a reader all the time but this time I really cannot tahan this liar. People like him makes trade very hard.... Now even COD also people scared because might get faulty parts and very hard to warranty/refund sad.gif

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I'm one of the victim. whistling.gif
if already make a polis report , I will follow up.

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I'm one of the victim.  whistling.gif
if already make a polis report , I will follow up.
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but aren't u mention u refuse him to return ur RM240 when moppy said in forum tat he will come down to melaka to refund ur money previouly? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(judge-the @ Aug 4 2006, 10:34 AM)
ok i've called mr calvin in vismart and spoke to him just now. gave him all my particulars and also the transaction i did with moppy last december.

hope everyone that purchased anything from moppy/jboy please do the same.
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Whats the phone number?
I have a CMV from him too .. i think i bought it early this year...
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Aug 5 2006, 04:18 AM)
but aren't u mention u refuse him to return ur RM240 when moppy said in forum tat he will come down to melaka to refund ur money previouly?  whistling.gif
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i don't want see his face.
I already gave him thousand times my bank account number. only bank in to me.
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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Aug 5 2006, 04:30 AM)
Whats the phone number?
I have a CMV from him too .. i think i bought it early this year...
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just call vismart at 03-79586688 and ask for mr calvin. he just need infomation on ppl purchased items from moppy/jboy.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Aug 5 2006, 04:18 AM)
but aren't u mention u refuse him to return ur RM240 when moppy said in forum tat he will come down to melaka to refund ur money previouly? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Aug 5 2006, 08:52 AM)
i don't want see his face.
I already gave him thousand times my bank account number. only bank in to me.
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Yup very true he could have just bank it into his account. I don't see the reason why he need to drive down to Melaka to hand over the money. And hey! If I did read correctly there was a transportation fee he required from yangxi for his travel.... How much was that, huh?

Honestly super macgyver I think you are missing the point here.
We're all here to see that the victims get back their money without much delay because the money is rightfully theirs and not some J,Boy or Moppy or V.S.Mart (whether they are the same person or not, it is no longer much debate coz they all display the same irresponsible attitude towards the buyers)

And the way u bash up yangxi and discrediting him coz his a victim????? makes no sense but honestly makes you sound fishy leh

If our friend is so great, he could easily proof yangxi worng by refunding the money fully and at no installment to RangerRed but no he have to delay. Even with a police report on him he chooses to disappear...... Now why don;t you tell us your side of the story!

Remember this is RangerRed thread.... not yangxi bashing thread. Input to help RangerRed not condemn others

QUOTE(J @ Boy aka Moppy aka V.S.Mart,Jun 19 2006, 07:29 PM)
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all the nicks above is same person, he just tipu you, me is one of his buyer LCD, he keep delaying me- if you dun trust me- u can always call vismart sdn bhd malaysia office no 03-79586688 and check with his company

u people tengok this [url=http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=266011&hl=moppy]tis[url] out ..3 nicks trying to create alibi to protect each other...so obvious
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Well this guy/gal is the most helpful so far, why do we need this person to show him/herself???? Even police accept anonymous informer!!!!!! Hahaha

Just a thought, since the handle is a she, could be his dumped girlfriend tongue.gif

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Yup very true he could have just bank it into his account. I don't see the reason why he need to drive down to Melaka to hand over the money. And hey! If I did read correctly there was a transportation fee he required from yangxi for his travel.... How much was that, huh?

Honestly super macgyver I think you are missing the point here.
We're all here to see that the victims get back their money without much delay because the money is rightfully theirs and not some J,Boy or Moppy or V.S.Mart (whether they are the same person or not, it is no longer much debate coz they all display the same irresponsible attitude towards the buyers)

And the way u bash up yangxi and discrediting him coz his a victim????? makes no sense but honestly makes you sound fishy leh

If our friend is so great, he could easily proof yangxi worng by refunding the money fully and at no installment to RangerRed but no he have to delay. Even with a police report on him he chooses to disappear...... Now why don;t you tell us your side of the story!

Remember this is RangerRed thread.... not yangxi bashing thread. Input to help RangerRed not condemn others
Well this guy/gal is the most helpful so far, why do we need this person to show him/herself???? Even police accept anonymous informer!!!!!! Hahaha

Just a thought, since the handle is a she, could be his dumped girlfriend tongue.gif
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wat fishy? i disallowed to tell my story at here, anyway, i can said i also waiting him to bankin to me by installment now. whistling.gif
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Huh.... u kena also ah????? If yes then I apologise.... I got a little too emotional coz I saw red in cheaters.....
Imagine u promote this site to your friends when you were overseas (US while I was boarding) and now this happening. They were rather awed to see that we have LYN, so comprehensive and have so many people posting in so many areas

I mentioned you sounded fishy because you were sort of defending them (no offense)

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i read all 12 pages of this and i'm really shocked at rangerRed's patients.. hope you get your money back dude..

i guess we just have to be more careful when dealing when online dealers...
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QUOTE(zx12 @ Aug 5 2006, 04:37 PM)
i read all 12 pages of this and i'm really shocked at rangerRed's patients.. hope you get your money back dude..

i guess we just have to be more careful when dealing when online dealers...
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u r shocked... im confused as why the hell is he so patient. doh.gif

i would have lodge a police report with all the details, name, pics, companies name; so that the police can find him.

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i've been around this forum for quite sometime.

thru out the years, all the con cases is about getting the "extra" ordinary deal.

A promised to heaven sort of thing. My advise is, look deep enough before you deal. What's the point spilling words like "my hard earn money and etc".

It is very unfortune that still so many people will fall for this old trick. It is so obvious this guy is playing you around. why bother to have 1 month 2 or 3 for a man to repent his mistake?

The most weird part why making so much effort to do all this? Straight to the point.

Just a piece of advise,

When you let a crook go rampant long enough, they will enjoy every piece of time making you guys look like a real idiot.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Aug 5 2006, 02:15 PM)
wat fishy? i disallowed to tell my story at here, anyway, i can said i also waiting him to bankin to me by installment now. whistling.gif
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Aren't you associated with Vismart as well?It's synonymous with the Verbatim brand here in Malaysia.Is it just me or is it true that Vismart is problematic ridden?You have a team of people selling Verbatim products in the bulk section correct?

Why is your story forbidden here leh?I don't see any reason why would the mods stop you from telling your story?

People are curious because you seem to have many issues with Yangxi as well.Mind telling us your grudges with him?He came to this thread to bring up his case with Moppy but you seem to enjoy defaming him everywhere in this forum.You sound fishy because it's kinda weird for someone like you who criticise other people's product when your're not buying any products from them.He also owe you money is it?
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=315720&st=100

Also I've noticed that you're quite a hot tempered guy.Even your own customer also you scold like nothing.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=178254&st=560 @post 564

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QUOTE(tirumisu @ Aug 9 2006, 12:54 PM)
Also I've noticed that you're quite a hot tempered guy.Even your own customer also you scold like nothing.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=178254&st=560 @post 564
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I am not siding anyone here but from that remark giving by supermcgyver, I think it's perfectly fine. If I am the seller I would be pissed off too. That guy is claim he got cheated by seller when the price dropped.

Common sense that everyone knows is computer parts keep dropping constantly. How can you "feel" cheated when the price drop 2 weeks after you buy. Also, even if the price didn't drop..it's still a supply and demand world out there. If you don't do your own research in pricing and ended up buying the item more expensive, do you blame the seller for selling too expensive?
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this is funny.i agree with abubin and supermcgyver.absolutely stupid la to blame seller when the price drop.this is the world of IT,face it la.blame urself (buyer) if u want to blame someone.
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Talk about after sales support.Instead of scolding the buyer, he should have advised him nicely that prices does not stay but that guy went all out and bash.This does not sound like it's coming from some decent seller.Period.

Tirumisu may have his reasons when he said that the Super McGyver is kind of notoriously hot headed and the way he condemns Yangxi and other sellers products makes him a suspicious character.
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Aren't you associated with Vismart as well?It's synonymous with the Verbatim brand here in Malaysia.Is it just me or is it true that Vismart is problematic ridden?You have a team of people selling Verbatim products in the bulk section correct?

Why is your story forbidden here leh?I don't see any reason why would the mods stop you from telling your story?

People are curious because you seem to have many issues with Yangxi as well.Mind telling us your grudges with him?He came to this thread to bring up his case with Moppy but you seem to enjoy defaming him everywhere in this forum.You sound fishy because it's kinda weird for someone like you who criticise other people's product when your're not buying any products from them.He also owe you money is it?
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=315720&st=100

Also I've noticed that you're quite a hot tempered guy.Even your own customer also you scold like nothing.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=178254&st=560 @post 564
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u sound more fishy like a gang with yangxi. whistling.gif

QUOTE(FireChampion @ Aug 9 2006, 09:22 PM)
Talk about after sales support.Instead of scolding the buyer, he should have advised him nicely that prices does not stay but that guy went all out and bash.This does not sound like it's coming from some decent seller.Period.

Tirumisu may have his reasons when he said that the Super McGyver is kind of notoriously hot headed and the way he condemns Yangxi and other sellers products makes him a suspicious character.
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u still new , else u should have seem how yangxi doing his dirty trick on his own partner & fren, other forumer can proof it as well, u can ask avenger & other traders too, stop give coment if u know nothing, but u can ask before u post. whistling.gif
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Guys...
This is a thread to solve ranger's problem with moppy, not yangxi bashing thread...

Me would like to know the latest update on this case.
Why ranger still take no action towards moppy?
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i love this line.. it decorates the forum....

actino has been taken against moppy... just waiting for authourities to take action.
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Ok so far Jason has 1 police report against him. So with the addition of 2 more reports (mine and another person) the police should take stricker action against Jason since if its just one report of cheating it is consider a personal affair but if there is 2 or more. Well then that makes it criminal intent.

So following the proper proceedure of doing things I have emailed to Jason c/o Vismart (and will send by register mail today) a final notice. Here is a copy for you all to read. Whether Jason will pay back is left to be seen but you can pester Calvin at Vismart who is the IT Sales Manager. I have been told by not confirmed by Calvin that Jason is gonna be fired in 30 days (i was told about over a week back).

Here is the letter:

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Purchase Date: 8th June 2006
Item: CMV 19” LCD Wide Screen
Terms: Delivery of LCD by 9th June. Seller offer refund if item was not delivered. Postponed to 12th June. Final Postponement 19th June.
Cash payment RM700 through May Bank account 112344041813. Beneficiary, Jason Lee Gin Sng, Vismart Sdn. Bhd. No:11, Lorong 227C, Section 51A, 46100 Petaling Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, telephone 03-7958 6688, handphone 016 2105091 and 012 2896326, acknowledged receipt by SMS (012 2896326) on 8th June.


Without prejudice, I, Bruno Dieter Chan Kean Lye, hereby demand from you the sum of RM700 to be refunded for the above purchase on the reasons stated below:

1)You have failed to execute the above order at all as you do not have the goods to deliver after receiving the RM700 as prepayment.
2)Thereby you have committed a Criminal Breach Of Trust.
3)I hereby demand from you the total refund of RM700 that was paid to your May Bank account 7 [seven] days from the notice of this letter.

Failing which, a police report will be lodged and legal proceedings will commence against you without further notice.

7th August 2006

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Bruno Dieter Chan Kean Lye

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glad to see everything was done through a proper channel so the person called Jason Lee Gin Sng can expect something soon legally...
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what if that guy did refund the money? case close? that's it?
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Check with http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=128&t=266011
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=266017&hl=
yangxi
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showuser=32224
aaronlbs (Check with him if the money is settled or not)
Also can even check with super macgyver

(merely suggesting some inputs I gathered from other threads, except super macgyver from this thread)

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Also you can PM each other your report number to make the case reference easier too smile.gif I hope you all can get your money back ASAP

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Unfortunately, if he really did payback by the time given in the notice (7 days = 17th) than he did abide by the conditions i stated in the notice. It would be unethical for me to make a police report otherwise. But should the others want evidence from me or me to make a statement to the police I can do that.
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Unfortunately, if he really did payback by the time given in the notice (7 days = 17th) than he did abide by the conditions i stated in the notice. It would be unethical for me to make a police report otherwise. But should the others want evidence from me or me to make a statement to the police I can do that.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Aug 9 2006, 10:07 PM)
u sound more fishy like a gang with yangxi. whistling.gif
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I am definitely NOT Yangxi gang but instead a forumer which frequents the bulk section a lot.

Your sig seems to show the same product as what the other seller,Motorbaby sells.Are you the same person pretending to be 2 different people?

State your relation with Vismart.It kinda give me the impression that the company is run by crooks.How a wholesaler company can end up having their products being dumped in Low Yat for cheap is an interesting question rclxub.gif unless its staffs have side jobs after working hours.

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This poor guy is trying to get his cash back and you all are accusing each other of some totally out-of-topic subject...

Shall we stop the unrelated arguements and accusations?
Yes pls do or else i'll have to waste some time cleaning up this thread
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 10 2006, 08:46 PM)
Unfortunately, if he really did payback by the time given in the notice (7 days = 17th) than he did abide by the conditions i stated in the notice. It would be unethical for me to make a police report otherwise. But should the others want evidence from me or me to make a statement to the police I can do that.
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I propose to file a report as a record , just in case if anything happen on you in future such as harassment , threaten , beaten (touch wood) , the police would have something to refer back. It is nothing about unethical , it is for your own safety reason.

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latest update, moppy a.k.a mr jason lee was spotted working at vismart booth in pcfair klcc.
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Hmm, me tot he is in big trouble with vismart, and getting fired soon?
Somebody should just go kakacaucau at vismart's booth with moppy, then only his REAL boss know what he did in LYN.
Ranger have u filed police report?
If already, then u can photocopy the report, and hand it over to moppy and his REAL boss at PC Fair, just in case.

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As I said earlier this guy is still lurking in this forum under some other names that most of us are not aware of.

Super McGyver,
You have yet to tell us about your relation and links with Vismart as well as the seller Motorbaby since u sell the same products as her.You are the first person to respond to RangerRed in this thread(1st page) with shock yet you claim to know Moppy.Isn't that a coincidence?

I have even spotted another seller by the name Strongbaby in the Garage Sales selling the same brand of monitors which RangerRed bought.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=311148

Hmm sounds fishy...Motorbaby now Strongbaby.Always mentioning about quality grade A grade B in their threads.Very suspicious about this..their names can be different but the words used by them are very similar when they post.

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well from my observation and he also served/explaining to me on the 19" wide chimei lcd... i dont think so he got any problems with vismart.
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As I said earlier this guy is still lurking in this forum under some other names that most of us are not aware of.

Super McGyver,
You have yet to tell us about your relation and links with Vismart as well as the seller Motorbaby since u sell the same products as her.You are the first person to respond to RangerRed in this thread(1st page) with shock yet you claim to know Moppy.Isn't that a coincidence?

I have even spotted another seller by the name Strongbaby in the Garage Sales selling the same brand of monitors which RangerRed bought.
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=311148

Hmm sounds fishy...Motorbaby now Strongbaby.Always mentioning about quality grade A grade B in their threads.Very suspicious about this..their names can be different but the words used by them are very similar when they post.
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tiramisu... enough of ur bull crap la... wanna question open another topic and question the heck off about Mc_Gyver (or however he spells it) and motorbaby and strongbaby now...

fishy or not... it's not about him, neither it's about u.... what's the deal questioning them? Vismart vismart la... nothing to do with this moppy either.
read ur posts a few days back... thought u would just give up and let it die... until today u still keeping this 'concern' of yours afloat.

so please.... do something more productive.. like go to pc fair and find out who this moppy is.

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QUOTE(miraged @ Aug 11 2006, 11:56 PM)
Vismart vismart la... nothing to do with this moppy either.
read ur posts a few days back... thought u would just give up and let it die... until today u still keeping this 'concern' of yours afloat.

so please.... do something more productive.. like go to pc fair and find out who this moppy is.
To mention that Vismart has nothing to do with Moppy is plain ignorant.We've got

confirmation here that this Moppy is still working at Vismart.What makes you think

he'll not continue to deal with forumers out here at Low Yat net?You want the

same thing which happened to RangerRed happen to someone else again?


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Well, I think what tirumisu said sounded fishy was mainly started by me. I apologise for starting this fishy thing.

It seems that everyone here knows that Moppy could still be active in LYN and there is even a thread started by ECTest and are selling CMV 934D. The doubts we all have is ECTest have registered in Jan 2003 with no post at all but suddenly start selling the same thing as Moppy (I am not accusing that ECTest is Moppy but just a doubt)

I am mentioning this because we are also all suspecting that Moppy would be disguising as another nick and are posting in this thread too.... Possibly flaming those whom are trying to help RangerRed.

It's to get everybody clear of each other's motive clear.

We were warned here by the Moderator here for accusing each other but I guess it is best that we get what needed to be said, be said and what needed to be kept to ourselves, be kept to ourselves smile.gif

We can all just wish RangerRed all the best
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yo, visamrt is having a booth at PC fair, no sign of moppy or jboy, though
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Some info: Strongbaby is not Jason.
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Jason sayz i'm gonna get some this week? If he means i'm gonna get laid then he better get me back my rm700 cuz the ladies dont take credit tongue.gif
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this is some f***ed up shit. rangerdude is one amazingly patient guy, respect to u man. hope that motherf***in conman burns in hell for this cock. cant believe got f***tards like this, knnccb fella.
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get some? after all these bloody mess, you will be getting SOME? f***ing loser have 2 cars but cannot afford to pay your RM700 back which he already sapu? He probably just want to pay you SOME to keep you mouth shut. If I were you, enough is enough. Either pay all or save them himself for police bail later.

Cause if you start accepting his partial payment, it would hard to chase him later for the rest. It will be more messy if you decided to report to police later.

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this tread is ...... i dunno what to say. so many months, so many post, so many promises, so many broken promises and here we are ...... yet another promise - rangerred, i think you can forget about the refund and if you are really serious in getting this settle go make police report or dropby his office to see his boss. all this waiting about is getting you nowhere and making you look like a sucker (dun mean to be rude but that's how this looks like to me). we are here to support you but you also need to push jboy/moppy harder. good luck
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u know... a lot of ppl checking in this post to see how things go smile.gif
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yes we are all here to support you ...... lyn have no place for conman
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how how?he got refund u duit?
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My roomie andyXP tried to contact him on both his 012 & 016 handphone but could not reach him AT ALL!!!

012 no not in service

016 no one pick up the phone.

AndyXP bought a CMV 17" LCD from him also...and he is having problem on the LCD, as his LCD is still in warranty period, he tried to call him but seems like he is avoiding to pick up his phone.
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swlong, Send to Vismart directly.

Jason will no longer be working with Vismart come end of August. As so he cleared up some of he 'debts' but not to me yet. Since he is out of a job there is no point (yet) to make a police report since he has no means of income to pay me back. So I'll wait till he finds himself a new job then confront him on payment or face the boys in blue.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 21 2006, 10:51 PM)
swlong, Send to Vismart directly.

Jason will no longer be working with Vismart come end of August. As so he cleared up some of he 'debts' but not to me yet. Since he is out of a job there is no point (yet) to make a police report since he has no means of income to pay me back. So I'll wait till he finds himself a new job then confront him on payment or face the boys in blue.
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what do i say to the staff in Vismart?

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 21 2006, 10:51 PM)
swlong, Send to Vismart directly.

Jason will no longer be working with Vismart come end of August. As so he cleared up some of he 'debts' but not to me yet. Since he is out of a job there is no point (yet) to make a police report since he has no means of income to pay me back. So I'll wait till he finds himself a new job then confront him on payment or face the boys in blue.
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u sure have patient with a person who break his promise....
if it is me ....
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andyxp, if u have the warranty card with the VIsmart chop i say its a safe bet u can take it to any Vismart branch/outlet n claim from there. Or even with just the warranty card since the monitor's serial should be there.

If u dont have a warranty card. I suggest u call Vismart up n see how to proceed. Dont forget to mention who u bought it from wink.gif
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QUOTE(RangerRed)
Jason will no longer be working with Vismart come end of August. As so he cleared up some of he 'debts' but not to me yet. Since he is out of a job there is no point (yet) to make a police report since he has no means of income to pay me back. So I'll wait till he finds himself a new job then confront him on payment or face the boys in blue.
there's a chinese proverb, "mercy to enemy = cruel to ownself"
he's an adult, and every adults should responsible for what they done,
kenot settle on-da-spot at least show up and discuss/negotiate
shakehead.gif good luck mate
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 22 2006, 09:51 AM)
andyxp, if u have the warranty card with the VIsmart chop i say its a safe bet u can take it to any Vismart branch/outlet n claim from there. Or even with just the warranty card since the monitor's serial should be there.

If u dont have a warranty card. I suggest u call Vismart up n see how to proceed. Dont forget to mention who u bought it from wink.gif
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i called Vismart just now... and i talked to a guy with the name Kevin...

i mentioned about the "no company stamp" on the warranty card and i also mentioned that the monitor was sold by Jason....

he said i can bring the monitor to their shop and look for the technical department...

gonna go and look look see see... haha
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Kevin or Calvin tongue.gif dont which one is the right name is the IT Sales Manager. A very helpful guy smile.gif
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 21 2006, 10:51 PM)
swlong, Send to Vismart directly.

Jason will no longer be working with Vismart come end of August. As so he cleared up some of he 'debts' but not to me yet. Since he is out of a job there is no point (yet) to make a police report since he has no means of income to pay me back. So I'll wait till he finds himself a new job then confront him on payment or face the boys in blue.
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Wow, this mean as long as he's jobless, he dun need to pay u back? O_o

Really salute u for your patient, ranger notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Me think eventhough he's jobless, he still need to be responsible for his action.

PS: Me dun really think his salary is RM4k per month coz nobody gonna lost a RM4k per month salary just for an unsettled RM700 debt. His salary is more like RM1.5k per month, where he struggle to pay for his cars and eats drinks, thus he start to con ppl.
Above is just my assumption, it's may not be the truth.
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it not impossible to earn RM4k as sales. Eventhough the basic is low, you will get commission from sales. I am sure with all his sales in lowyat, it will sort of get him closer to his sales target which if reached will yield him good commission.

Anyway, however much he earns, he still is a conman that need to repay his debt.

I salute rangerred too for his patience eventhough I might not agree with him on letting this guy go since he is jobless.

There is a chinese saying of when translated is "when you eat salty fish, you must bear the thirst". That's means you do what you do but must be responsible for the action. If not don't do it. Since he already did the con, he must bear the responsibilities despite his going jobless.

So what if he is jobless? He might have a stash of cash with him with all his conjobs. During his days selling here...do you remember how cocky he is dealing with people and all. Why do you think he need to create another nick to sell things?
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So, he's jobless??? Good to hear that...I mean this fella need to get some lesson from the way that he sell things...Wat a cocky man to post lots of f**K in this post evernthough he is the one that had a done a mistake here. For someone that keeps his promises, untill he sell everthing which includes his underpants also need to pay u back right?? Cause this is business and not some personal problem, right... I suggest u not to be leanient to him or he will kick u in the as#....
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 21 2006, 10:51 PM)
swlong, Send to Vismart directly.

Jason will no longer be working with Vismart come end of August. As so he cleared up some of he 'debts' but not to me yet. Since he is out of a job there is no point (yet) to make a police report since he has no means of income to pay me back. So I'll wait till he finds himself a new job then confront him on payment or face the boys in blue.
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RangerRed, your money is definitely "colder than water" already lor. IMHO it doesn't really matter you are working or not.... you still have to pay what you owe... furthermore it is not a loan.... it is your money that he is having without giving you anything.
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RM 4k => Working salary + Con salary.
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Yes it might be very troublesome to make a police report and i see it from your point of view. But after all this effort and tireless calling does it really worth rm700.
My advise is make a police report at Bukit Aman dun go other police station. Because all this Con case or "internet case" all will be transfer to Bukit Aman. Bukit Aman is next to Old Pudu Jail or nearby.

Why Waste so much time,effort and painfull experience! Yes after police report your chances of seeing back the rm700 is quite slim because doubt he could paid u back even the police caught him.

Now he out of job,you might have a problem finding him anymore. He might Run Road to Johor or Penang to con other ppl. Act now not tomorow.
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im going to Vismart together with swlong this saturday....

hopefully... my lcd's serial number is in their database...

else.. then i susah lo...

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hi andy ,u can get claim aroudn 2 week
my lcd back from claiming

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2 weeks ar?

wow.... lamanya.... but better than nothing la...

further more i will not be using my computer much often next week.... work work and work biggrin.gif
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yo yo yo ....

my lcd monitor is ready for collection ~!

p/s: me no transport... see how to collect la... keke...
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Ahh back... am glad u all got ur LCDs back from RMA smile.gif

As for making a police report? Well ppl give me a lot of chances too so i give out to other ppl. It settles my karma. If Jason doesn't appricate the chance i gave him and doesn't pay me back. Well, u know all the negative energy i generate from dealing with him with stick with him until he clears that RM700.

So i believe he is now walking around with a nice lump of my negative energy. N any small misfortune he creates for other ppl cause more negative energy to be attracted the large amount he has.
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still havent solve? I tired reading ur thread. lol i saluted to you rangered. The most patient guys. Hope that ur case settle in a short time. My suggestion is better make a report, if not ur case drag so long scare ntg can do by the police.
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Salute to u brother Ranger... notworthy.gif
Btw, i too agree with the others who suggested u make a report.
U're just simply too kind to someone who doesn't deserve it.
Being jobless or not, thats a responsibility he gotta bear, again i can just say u're very very kind. Feel sorry that something like this happen to u.
Anyway, all the best and hope u change ur mind to lodge a report.
Take stern action to prevent more innocent people being conned, and stop those contaminating this forum.

p/s: to klang_crook, i dont get the point to ur reply, if u're here to help, then give some helpful feedbacks, not bash everyone in LYN trying to say how stupid we are to have trust in someone else. Remember that even the famous ones started out as newbies. Sorry if my words offended u.

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I'm pretty sure with my signature everyone knows about Jason now.... if he tries to con u all again... he would need an accomplice to do so.

klang_crook, with every great fortune there was a great crime.

@meno karma is a cruel master. There r was fates than a police report in his life when he picks enough negative karma.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 30 2006, 11:16 AM)
@meno karma is a cruel master. There r was fates than a police report in his life when he picks enough negative karma.
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Being so forgiving is just something many of us cant do...
Wish u all the best...

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QUOTE(KilJim @ Aug 30 2006, 11:09 PM)
Ahh...here we go again...
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wow.. so clean....

how to you define "dirty" posts?

any guideline for this?

thanks.
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salute to you RangerRed for still keeping your head cool for such long time. and it has been 2.5 months but he still haven't settled it. if he really as pitiful to have no money to settle it then atleast he should be a man and make an effort to explain the situation to you instead of just keeping in the dark. last online yesterday but no post from him for one month plus.

2.5 months, i'm surprise that his name didn't enter the black list thread.
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QUOTE(andyxp @ Aug 31 2006, 10:41 PM)
wow.. so clean....

how to you define "dirty" posts?

any guideline for this?

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Definition is in the big white box above, titled as Trade Zone Dispute Resolution Guidelines, come on the first thing u should do is read the R&R
If they're useless provocative posts or off topic then they dont belong here

No problem

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so is our beloved mr moppy/jboy still working with vismart since today already 5th september? from what his superior, mr calvin told me last month, moppy/jboy will no longer be under vismart employment after end of august.

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Jason is looking or has found a job. N will start work shortly. It will be interesting if he pays off his dues to LYN ppl.
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RangerRed I really salute your patience. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

Tell you what, I am also a strong believer of karma. Don't worry, he will carry and suffer his negative karma for remaining life, till he clear off all his "debts".
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Sep 5 2006, 08:46 AM)
Jason is looking or has found a job. N will start work shortly. It will be interesting if he pays off his dues to LYN ppl.
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he hadnt got job yet, i still waiting for my money back from him for over 2 month already. mad.gif
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i think u all money sudah burn lio !!!....................
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i think u all money sudah burn lio !!!....................
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i now very worry of my money ler. sad.gif it had been almost 3 month liao ler.
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can I know why moppy or j-boy is not even in the blacklist or MO list?
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Should have started his job.... maybe my money will appear soon. tongue.gif
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bro rangerred no hard feelings on the following matter...

me too wanna know why moppy/jboy still not in the blacklist or MO list? hope moderator can explain on this matter. thankz.
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So far, ranger has been extending the dateline non-stop
IINM, he's still waiting for the refund

If you decide that he's truly conned you then i guess he'll be put in the list
We cant do much if you decide to wait for him
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he will definitely refund...

i got the feeling....
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QUOTE(KilJim @ Sep 12 2006, 11:05 PM)
So far, ranger has been extending the dateline non-stop
IINM, he's still waiting for the refund

If you decide that he's truly conned you then i guess he'll be put in the list
We cant do much if you decide to wait for him
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ok thankz for the explanation. hope no hard feelings with everyone. still hope rangerred will get back his rm700.
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ive been reading through this 16 pages thread and
really symphaty to those victims and mostly to redranger.

surely everyone had in mind; take action to him!! lodge a police report!!!
why neet to be so soft heartened ??!!! etc...
but for most victims, they still hoping for their money or stuff...
that is something that most readers do not aware...
b'coz we lost nothing.....so we should not push them to do this n to do that
coz they have their own reason and why need to hold on to...
but 4 the victims...pls be aware that ur action today may change tomorrow...

wish u all the luck to get back the money. PEACE TO ALL


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Wow u see that Jason... the mods havent put u on the blacklist cuz i havent mention that the deadline is up n i have officially stated that u conned me.
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Sad to see this case happend to you.

You have 3 option.

1. Wait and perhaps RM700 can drop back to your wallet
2. Lodge a police report and wait
3. Screw his Nissan and Satria. smile.gif
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i read through 16 pages.
one easy way, call his papa or mama smile.gif or brother or sister or relatives.
if you (rangerred) tolerate with him, that mean he would continually con and cheat others people $$.

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If he is in land of kiasu.... they will use Dark power choke [Star Wars tongue.gif] on his nutz if he tries that.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Sep 12 2006, 12:50 PM)
Should have started his job.... maybe my money will appear soon. tongue.gif
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Passed by and read the posts.
Good to you. Hope u get your money back...
But payday is end of month then can get. A week or more to go tongue.gif

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Well am keeping this thread open so we can see if Jason is really a man or just a cheap con.
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i dun understand.. if REALLY no money, and he has intention to pay back, be a man and bank in RM50 every month / week la...

that way, at least rangerred's happy. don't pay back like that for a long long time.... making emtpy empty promises... i dunno la.
rangerred. all the best
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Sep 12 2006, 12:50 PM)
Should have started his job.... maybe my money will appear soon. tongue.gif
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I took quite a while to read all 16 pages but I was eager to know what is happening. Truthfully I know you've read this a few hundred times but my advice is...

Go lodge a police report!

Now the first reason of doing so is so that you can do what is right for you yourself. For all the agony that you've been through for so many months, you could even sue him. Well I'm no law student so I don't know.

The other reason is that you should report asap so that others don't get conned too. Here we are trying to resolve matters and telling others not to be conned by him while he is out there conning others at this very moment. So the sooner you report, the sooner he gets caught, the sooner other buyers won't get cheated.

Since he has been "legendary" in LYN, he doesn't even need a product to con. He just has to create a new account, copy and paste a product from some website and start selling again.

So if you have given him a dateline and he doesn't meet it, no use if he claims he has only 20 cents in his pocket. It is still wrong and it is still against the law. Report so that others won't suffer as well.

Anyway, plz dun flame me but correct me if I'm wrong... sweat.gif

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Knowing what i did in my past that i was not proud of lodging a police report would make me a hypocrite for all the chances i got. I can tell i may be many times but i'm never a hypocrite.

That's why i thought long n hard about whether to lodge a police report or not. I too got some bad karma hanging on me. So suffering this small amount (well not that small) is may be due to that karma.

So when Jason if or even does pay me back i'll know when my bad karma is completely gone.

May sound like a lot of bs to u all but i don't care.
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Nah its not that. You have your own believes so that doesn't entitle me to call it bs. Well you have your reasons for not reporting. Anyway I'm not commanding or instructing you to report. Its your choice and I only gave an advice.

Just hope that everything will resolve soon and others won't get cheated as well.

Anyway just to ask, how the hell did you get his pic? laugh.gif I don't even have a single pic of traders that I bought products from. laugh.gif

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wills, heh how i got his pic? well he used it on his msn. So i saved the avator n showed it to a few ppl that cod with him. They confirmed that it is him smile.gif THX to all those ppl that confirmed that pic is Jason.

As for not taking action... will Jason's pic is on my signature... which is for every post i make in every thread everyone will see it. Should he try to 'cheat' again which he should not he will need to change his appearance for cod/c&c or ask someone else to do the cod/c&c for him. Anyway stay there until my 700 is sitting in my pocket again.

BTW wills u did not offend me just stating my reasons plainly smile.gif
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Well then, shake hands, all cool.

Anyway Jason is kinda "brilliant" to put his pic as his avatar after he has done all this. laugh.gif
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This case has been so long. Still haven't settled?
ranger you are the most patient person i've ever seen..

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wills, evil genius Mojojo he is lol.
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laugh.gif And the fact that you even know what he drives and how much he earns.

You must be one hell of a genius or he must be on hell of a "brilliant" person. laugh.gif
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Any updates friend?
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Its like farting in the wind... so can smell but cannot find. O_O
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This is sort of inappropriate but congratulations on getting Elite and TE tag.
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Thanks... just notice it when checking ur post Rlhh.
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Do u get the TE tag by getting conned? Just kidding tongue.gif

Anyway,how u manage to get all those details? I'm deeply impressed.
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What will amaze u is that Jason himself told me without i having to ask. Which was clarified by another forumer a day or two later.
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Then u deny the possibilities that he's lying?
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No a few of us confirmed from our own sources he is in singapore working or looking for a job.

Whether he will pay me or the others back... well thats another kettle of fish.
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sweat.gif rclxub.gif Phewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww dayemmmmmmmmmm. 17 pages? walauwei. And still not yet settled? i was readin all those 17 pages and gotta say, Ranger, u really do have patience. I can help u, since u got pic of him, i have jalan with the cops in singapore and malaysia. we can trace him easily! we got the media, we got the net and the cops. i can post his pics everywhere. in police station also can. whoever wans me to do this tell me now. we can grab him in no time. trust me in no time. its not hard to track a person nowdays when the identity is there. most to most in few days he will b in our hand already. Im pissed off with this kind of mofo's. Its about time to teach him a lesson. jeson or mopy or watever street whore name u got, ur time is here. Im gonna help this guys and track u in no time and i know by this time u r reading this. When i get to c u, i wudnt b able to be calm ! its either u get bashed by them or get my both hands on u! trust me. Ive collected all info about urself. Nowdays the technology is more smarter also with interpol. dont forget icon_idea.gif ........................So ranger u decide.

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Ahh..... i think u gotta chill a bit. That 700 will come back to me one way or another. Either in cash or luck. N Jason does once in a while drop me a note saying what he is doing. If he is lying let him lie. If he is telling the truth so much the better. I didnt come out on top of this but neither did Jason. N i have let this go as an expensive experience.

Anyone that drops in a msg now n then pls drop nuggets of info about what Jason is doing. No point flaming him or threatening because if he is not gonna do something then he is not gonna do something. N u get all worked up for nothing.
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Though your intentions may be good, i dont see why you all keep poking in and telling him what to do...
Even the person who's lost his money so far is satisfied with this solution, why wouldn't all the unrelated ppl be?

Only post if u have any information regarding Jason

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Rangerred, you should do something if not you will hurt your parents by letting the conman not pay you up. Why? Read carefully the msn dialog, the Moppy is swear on your parent's live instead of his! You havn't notice and continued the messaging.

Read carefully!
[11:06] scorping: Ok please confirm what i repeat from u
[11:07] scorping: You, moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).
[11:08] scorping: Is this what you are swearing?
[11:09] scorping: Confirm so that I can swear to you my original oath too.
[11:10] Jason Lee: Me moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).

[11:10] scorping: Thank you.
[11:11] Jason Lee: smile.gif

Pls don't not allow him "play" you & your parents as you are such a noble man.

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haha...didn't notice that. Very detailed of loonglsk to notice it.

Rangerred, obviously that guy is playing you lah...
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and even the pay "whom" has also been twisted. The Moppy should said "JBOY will pay you" istead of "JBOY will pay me".
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QUOTE(loonglsk @ Oct 5 2006, 03:53 PM)
Rangerred, you should do something if not you will hurt your parents by letting the conman not pay you up. Why? Read carefully the msn dialog, the Moppy is swear on your parent's live instead of his! You havn't notice and continued the messaging.

Read carefully!
[11:06] scorping: Ok please confirm what i repeat from u
[11:07] scorping: You, moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).
[11:08] scorping: Is this what you are swearing?
[11:09] scorping: Confirm so that I can swear to you my original oath too.
[11:10] Jason Lee: Me moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).

[11:10] scorping: Thank you.
[11:11] Jason Lee:  smile.gif

Pls don't not allow him "play" you & your parents as you are such a noble man.
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i dun even notice that in the first message. doh.gif
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I guess we all missed it... i wonder how Moppy can swear on people's when he never met them? Any, i'm not the one feeling guilty that i have to msg the person i conned once in while to tell half truth.

After i washed my hands on the matter sometime back... if he wants to contact n pass half truth.. whatever. I not wasting my energy asking him for the money.

As i said if he does pay me back it would be a miracle but since he hasn't he can habour all the bad karma i feeling towards him n suffer for it sometime in the future.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Oct 5 2006, 05:52 PM)
I guess we all missed it... i wonder how Moppy can swear on people's when he never met them? Any, i'm not the one feeling guilty that i have to msg the person i conned once in while to tell half truth.

After i washed my hands on the matter sometime back... if he wants to contact n pass half truth.. whatever. I not wasting my energy asking him for the money.

As i said if he does pay me back it would be a miracle but since he hasn't he can habour all the bad karma i feeling towards him n suffer for it sometime in the future.
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Maybe this is easiest way of getting him. Under the Inland Revenue Website: www.hasilnet.org.my in the main page, there is a button on the left hand side to report any one who is evading tax.
By the manner of his conduct, I'm sure he is not reporting the extra income made form internet transaction to the tax department. Why not give the detail of his and the way he conduct business to the tax department, you may even be rewarded by goverment as stated in the web. One stone kill two birds.
The tax department will investigate him & if find no wrong doing of him, you will still not be affected as the whistleblowe is protected.

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The above measure is also strongly suggested to any one who has been conned. Let the con man has trouble and without causing you a single sen or much time to get them.
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Thats a fairly interesting solution especially for dealing with cons ranging in the 3k area.
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Well, seriously, I would really advice you to lodge a police report with the Commercial Crimes Department, let the police nail this fella, I'm sure the admin has his IP logged here and with all the supporting evidence you have on hand, I'm sure you'll get his busted. $700 is a lot of money to loose, maybe not to some but I hate seeing getting cheated of their hard earned money. Seriously, make a police report, I would if I were in your shoes. vmad.gif
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post he pic to ever user of lyn to beware this guy.may be he wil look for other victim.i wan to buy something but now i so scare. sad.gif
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I have sitting here read all the post, it's already few month, so how? Haven't settle anything yet?
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U should know the money is gone with the wind. N am just leaving the thread open for info regarding what Jason is doing and where he is.
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it almost like u are writing some Novel on this Jason life...like where he work,getting new job...etc..

Seriously,u so considered to settle the case once and for all...if not....i think u wil have to reopen a new thread soon once it reach 2500 posting(or is it 2000 post?)

It have gone far too long..
Yes,i admit u got the greatest patience in waiting for refund but so what,if this Jason guy delay delay delay delay and what good does it do if u are taking so call "soft" approach!

My honest opinion,it is getting u nowhere!!!

Please consider a concrete solution like making police report and just sit back or consider this is expensive lesson learned...or hire some thug to "threathen" him,just like "tai yee long"---at less it work to a degree...

just my humble opinion.. notworthy.gif

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I agree with MakNok. You need to take a more drastic action.
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Jason has settled n is working. He told me come chinese new year he will visit malaysia n come to penang to pay me back.
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come chinese new year!!
do keep us inform!!!
but i bet he will say he need money for chinese new year..

Anyway...we shall see.

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Nov 8 2006, 09:09 AM)
Jason has settled n is working. He told me come chinese new year he will visit malaysia n come to penang to pay me back.
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what? you mean he is now working overseas (or claimed to be overseas)??

Of courselah..con man like that must have con many people's money and then run away overseas or hiding somewhere in forest.

Rangerred, if you really get to meet him, do take a picture of this ahole and post it here. BTW, send my regards to him...***cough*a**hole*cough**

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..... lot of thread is talking about the same person, i took a whole afternoon to read all of this, it's pitty of u tat haven't receive any refund, just that i hope he can refund to u soon.. a promise is a promise, Rm700, it's a big sum, he can bank in to u the amount and no need to wait until chinese new year. now's day it's quite easy for banking fund transfer, why have to wait until chinese new year?? dun give him any chance, pls.. it's unfair for u and the others who he still pending for refund or item.. a seller must take a good responsible for wat they deal with the customer.

not wanna fire any one here, just some of my opinion, sorry if i say something wrong
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cny ? long way to go yet ...
this is totally BS ...
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i've deal online before & lucky there's no problem with it.

gimme some detail about this guy. like his real name @ ic no. i'll try to dig some info bout him. maybe that'll help a little if u want do report.
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Hope u can reply my sms, also pls return my money on time too, it's already over 6 month so far ler. sad.gif
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Thread reopened. For ppl that want to claim from moppy.
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QUOTE(h0ttyinazma @ Dec 28 2006, 11:36 AM)
anyone sell cheap second hand SCSI card?
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Off topic... go to the Garage Sales or something

Just passed by and read all 18 pages of this thread... Ranger, you're one hell of a patient man (okay I know you're getting lots of this already, but I just had to tongue.gif)

Kudos to you... and hope that little twat there chokes up the money he owes, or he might just get reborned as a rat.

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moppy, i had enough with u, dun try to hide over there if u had back to malaysia.
at least return me sum of the money first since already past over half year now. sad.gif
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Well he sayz CNY... u can only hope man.
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No, I don't think rangerred trust him anymore. He is just being nice by not reporting him to police. He already expect not to get the money back. But if the ahole is kind enough to pay back then fine. If not, so be it.
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FraudBuster, the evidence is the lack of denial of all accusations made against him. Not once he deny any information provided is incorrect.
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CNY is coming, jason, hope u still remember to return my money.
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whoa man, i've been here since 2pm. reading ur thread is like a sad thing. i feel sorry for what have happened to you over the past 6 months. it's been long, and i hope things worked out for the better for you.

as for moppy/jason, stop cheating on people. it's not gonna get you anywhere, and what's a mere RM700 to you when you yourself is earning RM4k per month?! OMG, you are so cheap and dirty. I hope you just rot down there, with all the dirty money that you've collected.

Ciaoz man!
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jason, pls start giving us reply, it had been quite sumtime u just quiet there & didnt show up urself. mad.gif
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I'm just passing by.....
as you can see, i'm just a newbie here...and i just wanna buy some stuff from another forumer.........but after reading this thread, i got a little scared... sad.gif
After reading total 19 pages............like all few other forumer, i salute you for your patience, RangerRed. For months you've waited, and still waiting. But life must go on.
For the conman, seriously, how long can you live feeding on others? May God forgive us all and show you the right path.
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no sign of him at shah alam or kl here so far.

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so ney new news??? newbie here ... had similar exp but not here ...
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QUOTE(TaQ @ Jan 30 2007, 01:57 PM)
so ney new news??? newbie here ... had similar exp but not here ...
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He's got still 18 more days, then there is no redemption for him. He will always be a cheater.
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Jason failed to pay any amount on the 18th of Feb. Hence, u know what his word is worth now.

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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jan 17 2007, 01:16 PM)
no sign of him at shah alam or kl here so far.
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Feb 20 2007, 01:59 PM)
Jason failed to pay any amount on the 18th of Feb. Hence, u know what his word is worth now.
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More lies than flies on crap.... well his day will come.
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Liar??We hate liar.......By the end of this month,ask all lyn member to sms his number lollor juz banned his acc....
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wow... took me 30 minutes to read this thread... many things had happen in this thread~ For moppy from got job to unemployed by Vismart... even Super Macgyver can change from "supporting" to "against" moppy lol~ but 1 thing didnt change is Ranger's patient on this case. so... is the case still going on? or tak tau liao? smile.gif

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whoa.. i read most of threads bout this moppy.. the pic of this jason on rangerred's signature got me lol! haha! laugh.gif btw, been wondering why this moppy thread got lagged since last year. he's out of excuses or has he been banned? hmm.gif

nway gud luck for RangerRed and others!
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walao..... spamming...
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i think he lost all money in gambling....

RangerRed - you will get good karma in near future...don't worry !
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tired of reading all this 20 pages.. goodluck to Ranger. *swing the conman's head off*
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just read all 20 pages as well.

nowadays....dont deal with anyone with banking in cash or what not.

COD is safer....so to speak.

Lord have mercy on his(Jason) soul.
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oh my.. took an hour to read through all these pages..i even skip some pages.. i guess it have been more than half year?
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yea..,.its kinda long...really...he should have reported it long ago.

then again..never trust banking cash....COD would be better.

that fella not sked meh? haha taking so long to refund.


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j boy last time i got the deal with him.17" Chi Mei Lcd Monitor.
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another guy just dirty our lowyatnet forum please clean them up .
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The money not refunded yet? It's been like almost a year by now?
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neh that conman juz brought the money with him into his coffin... let him be, juz curse him that he'll have a rotten d*** before he's dead... biggrin.gif
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Nice thread RangerRed , i came to notice your post through your cute Signature hahah. Thanks for da warning happy.gif rclxms.gif
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this thread still up until now..? gud luck bro.
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I told him not to contact me unless its to return my cash.
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Rangered U have the 1st class cheater's details,
why not report police and let him escape from punishment?
Owns a Nissan and Satria but no money to pay back to u?
I hate such kind of cheater,
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 27 2006, 01:14 AM)
1:09am and no cash.

Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Mon Jul 03 13:06:33 2006
[13:06] Jason Lee: Good afternoon
[13:07] scorping: Afternoon
[13:08] Jason Lee: I`m moppy ere
[13:08] Jason Lee: u can call me jason also
[13:08] Jason Lee: you there
[13:09] scorping: yeah
[13:09] scorping: i know u r both moppy n j,boy
[13:09] Jason Lee: kekekeke
[13:09] Jason Lee: no point for me to explain
[13:09] Jason Lee: but we are not the same
[13:10] Jason Lee: is there anyhow u can just give him a chance
[13:10] Jason Lee: cos if u wan to push him so much also no point
[13:10] scorping: i have yet to see even a partical payment
[13:10] Jason Lee: btw just to let u know his phone is bared
[13:11] Jason Lee: so he can`t call you
[13:12] Jason Lee: ok, maybe i will ask him to make some first
[13:12] Jason Lee: other then this matter is there anyhow to settle it
[13:12] Jason Lee: cos i know now he don`t have that much cash
[13:13] scorping: to settle it he must post in the one of my threads when n how much he intends to pay
[13:13] Jason Lee: hmm...
[13:13] scorping: that means also whatever scheme he wants
[13:14] scorping: like 200 a week or month or whatever
[13:14] Jason Lee: wah!!!
[13:14] Jason Lee: u r that good
[13:14] Jason Lee: 200 a month
[13:14] scorping: n the exact date n time the amount to be paid
[13:14] Jason Lee: i can`t take it la
[13:14] Jason Lee: i talk to him
[13:15] Jason Lee: then i will msn u ok
[13:15] scorping: that means he wants to settle he has to post in one of the thread E.G. I will pay on 4th of every month rm200 until the rm700 is completely paid up starting from today
[13:16] scorping: for example
[13:16] scorping: but it has to be black n white in the disput thread
[13:16] Jason Lee: i wan to ask u la
[13:16] Jason Lee: what is the point you wan him to post it
[13:16] scorping: n i will audit my account with a screenshot every month 1 day before n 1 day so ppl can see if he did pay in
[13:17] scorping: so ppl can see
[13:17] scorping: complete transparancy
[13:17] Jason Lee: why don`t like that , i will promise you by this 3 weeks(just for in case) u will get the LCD or the money  for sure
[13:18] scorping: u promise? there is no proof of ur promise u know
[13:18] Jason Lee: can you just  believe me once more
[13:18] Jason Lee: it depends to you
[13:19] scorping: do u swear on ur father's and mother's life that j,boy will pay by 3 weeks
[13:19] Jason Lee: I don`t mind
[13:19] Jason Lee: but why must said my parents out
[13:19] Jason Lee: if i swear wf myself it`s ok
[13:20] Jason Lee: pls.. we are not kids anymore
[13:20] Jason Lee: if i`m not wrong you are 20 ++ already so do i
[13:20] scorping: thats right
[13:20] scorping: swearing on ur parents' life is a serious thing
[13:20] Jason Lee: i know
[13:20] scorping: it means u absoluely believe in j,boy
[13:20] Jason Lee: that why i said
[13:21] Jason Lee: yes i do
[13:21] scorping: then swear it here
[13:21] Jason Lee: cos i know him since 12 years old
[13:21] scorping: i want to see those words
[13:21] Jason Lee: why not like that
[13:21] scorping: i then i will close both threads for 3 weeks
[13:21] scorping: i will not post in either of them
[13:22] Jason Lee: I swear that he will give you in this 3 weeks if not my life is yours
[13:22] scorping: until 3 weeks is up
[13:22] scorping: Add ur parents' life in
[13:22] scorping: I will not kill u or them if he does not pay up
[13:23] scorping: when u die, god will judge u n ur parents for believing in j,boy
[13:23] scorping: it will be a mark on ur soul so to speak
[13:23] Jason Lee: why don`t like that can u swear that u will close all the thread you open by swearing on ur parents' life
[13:23] scorping: should ur friend fail to u to keep his promise to me
[13:24] Jason Lee: plssplss
[13:24] Jason Lee: don`t play wf parents
[13:24] Jason Lee: this is the first time i`m having a chat
[13:25] Jason Lee: but never thought that u will be that mean
[13:25] scorping: I swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me back RM700 in 3 weeks starting from today i will close both threads, confirm he paid me in full n not mention this whole affair again.
[13:25] scorping: I am not that mean
[13:25] scorping: I am serious
[13:25] Jason Lee: wah!!!!
[13:25] scorping: Now how good is ur faith in him?
[13:28] scorping: that means if he pays me within 3 weeks (that means not 3 weeks n 1 day) i will post in my threads j,boy refunded n i will not talk anymore about it n close both threads
[13:29] scorping: that means the whole case will be discuss online or offline with anyone else
[13:30] scorping: well?
[13:31] scorping: Dont take 3 weeks to decide
[13:41] scorping: i'll be out until 7pm
[13:42] scorping: maybe u're have answer by then
[14:36] Jason Lee: soli
[14:36] Jason Lee: just came back from outside
[14:36] Jason Lee: online or off it`s depends to you
[14:36] Jason Lee: i don`t really mind that much cos those ppl started to api j,boy and myself
[14:38] scorping: so has j,boy accepted the condition?
[14:38] scorping: or have u?
[14:48] scorping: Still thinking?
[14:48] scorping: oh well
[14:56] scorping: If he wants to give a LCD in exchange for money i know someone that will collect it n post it to me.
[14:57] scorping: of course the lcd has to be at least the same model offered or higher
[14:57] scorping: but totally flawless
[14:57] scorping: but the swearing on parents still applies
[19:57] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Mon Jul 03 19:57:21 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Tue Jul 04 12:56:38 2006
[12:57] scorping: I guess J,Boy is not sincere about giving me any amount of money back
[12:57] scorping: I also would mind RM200 a month as long as he swears he will pay on the same day every month without fail. Swear an oath on his parents' lives that is.
[14:55] scorping: go read trade dispute section
[17:39] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Tue Jul 04 17:39:48 2006.
[02:11] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 05 02:11:17 2006.
[03:41] *** You have been disconnected. Wed Jul 05 03:41:02 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Wed Jul 05 10:59:53 2006
[10:59] Jason Lee: Morning
[11:00] Jason Lee: so how or what u wan me to do
[11:00] scorping: make the oath
[11:00] scorping: no real man will lie on his parents' lives
[11:01] Jason Lee: fine!!!!
[11:04] Jason Lee: I swear wf my parents live , J,boy confirm make payment to you in this 3 weeks, And all the f***ers in lyn that talk alot will not live peace for next 2 month
[11:04] Jason Lee: I swear my parents life
[11:05] Jason Lee: happy wf it
[11:06] scorping: Ok please confirm what i repeat from u
[11:07] scorping: You, moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).
[11:08] scorping: Is this what you are swearing?
[11:09] scorping: Confirm so that I can swear to you my original oath too.
[11:10] Jason Lee: Me moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).

[11:10] scorping: Thank you.
[11:11] Jason Lee: smile.gif
[11:12] Jason Lee: i don`t really understand why u wan to post all our msn history in the forum
[11:12] Jason Lee: make me quite piss off
[11:13] Jason Lee: but i can`t do anything
[11:13] scorping: Then I, RangerRed (Dieter Chan) swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me the RM700 in the agreed time that you, moppy, swore too, then I will not discuss the topic of our problem online or offline. Nor will I comment on your character/personality to other forumers if  they ask about you other than you kept your promise that I was refunded.
[11:14] scorping: Do you accept those terms?
[11:14] Jason Lee: it`s total is find wf me
[11:15] scorping: Done and done. Oaths are not accepted.
[11:15] scorping: i mean accepted tongue.gif
[11:15] scorping: Was daydreaming a bit for a second on what I would do to you when typing
[11:16] Jason Lee: kekekekekeke
[11:16] Jason Lee: i don`t really bother that much
[11:16] scorping: Done and done. The oaths are accepted. Lets hope that in 3 weeks time this black day ends.
[11:16] Jason Lee: cos if you really wan to report a police also it hard for you
[11:17] scorping: I will post on the forum that you have arranged that J,Boy will pay me.

The rest of chat log is as we all say chicken talk.
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[11:07] scorping: You, moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).
[11:08] scorping: Is this what you are swearing?
[11:09] scorping: Confirm so that I can swear to you my original oath too.
[11:10] Jason Lee: Me moppy, swear on your parents' lives that J,Boy will pay me RM700 by or within 3 weeks (maximum 3 weeks starting from today).

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Actually i didnt post the whole log.... i told him not to be 'funny' a little later down the chat log but i thought i leave that part out... i just left it that way so u can see how cunning he tries to be or clueless.
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i felt sleepy after reading 20 pages...i feel u...
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all the best bro rangerred. took a long time readin ur posts. wow. u've been so patient throughout the whole ordeal. i reallie salute u! all the best and good luck dude. =)
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wow. just read this thread, but only go through few pages only. too long...

nearly 1 year past. any news on this sucka? or already bring rm700 with him to hell? d@mn this kind of people...
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Wow...just read all 21 page...if I were u I will get some klang gangster to smash him around...anywhere, I thing u were rich because Rm700 seems nth to u...
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Lol...It's been a year since the deal and how was everything?

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damn...passed the 1 year anniversary of this thread..
just went through most of the pages. respect to rangerred 4 keeping cool.
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u shud the phrase in ur signature..
from "Has not paid me back the money since 8th June"
to "Has not paid me back the money since 8th June 2006"

hahaha....
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i got cheated before once buying in LYN,this kinda ppl are so shit..wish that their body will rot & smell & then slowly melt when their skin will slowly fell off & stink they cant go to work & cant get out from house,even with heavy clothing around him like an idiotic on the street,their body will stinck 50m away & the public will swear to him for so shit stinking,therefore he will stay at home & even mom will feel "born a char siew pau" better then born this useless stinking son..& his family will kick him off from their house for not stinking their family's name..& he will be a bagger,a stinking bagger which so stink that no ppl will dare to donate to her..omg..then he will loss his hair..every fur on his body will fell of..& whole body will feel the pain,just like fire burning his skin..he will slowly die die die!!!& even hell wont accept him..he is worst then devil..omg..you will vanish in this GALAXY..

not to spam..but i really hate this kinda ppl who cheat others..come on if wanna cheat then just tell us "I have cheated on you" dont give lies & give us hope..we will feel better when u tell us "I have no money to refund you & wont plan to refund you because I had successful on cheating your $"
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and finally.. after long hours of reading and cried, i want to say here's a man that should be congratulated for his patience.. Congratulation, rangerred.. i wish that i can be that patient..

as till now, how much he had paid? none or some?
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moppy won't show up but only until he got sum thing to ask u to buy anything from him, then he will only show up himself. doh.gif:

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wow long post here,

For RangerRed, u can ask "someone" out there to help u to collect the money if you do not wan to get the "white" guy to help you.

For mobby, or whatever u r la, if the "someone" really come to collect, then u really habis lo, 1st page in newspaper liau.

anyone know his house address, post here la, then a lot ppl willingly to help.
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Its okay to buy from the internet if the seller is reputable and you do have a transaction record to prove it.

For me, I have never bought something that will worn out (like hdd, cdrom, lcd, cars etc) due to the same reason. Even if you want to buy, do a survery first. The chances of getting unbelievable offer is rare in Malaysia. Even if it exist, COD!!!

I once bought a 7710 for RM1.2k which was advertised through Lelong. Sounds too good to be true since it cost RM2.4k back then. So I cod and did get the phone intact with Zitron warranty.
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QUOTE(hkpoh @ Jul 7 2007, 10:54 AM)
wow long post here,

For RangerRed, u can ask "someone" out there to help u to collect the money if you do not wan to get the "white" guy to help you.

For mobby, or whatever u r la, if the "someone" really come to collect, then u really habis lo, 1st page in newspaper liau.

anyone know his house address, post here la, then a lot ppl willingly to help.
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wat in the newspaper? blink.gif
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Ever wonder hows this conman's father and mother looks like?
Confather and conmother?

And promise that he will have a conson or condaugther after he married a congirl.

Lol... lame unsure.gif
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RangerRed, much respect to you wink.gif
Your patience knows no limits haha laugh.gif
After reading till page 14-15 i tot the issue was going to be settled man haha.. but i guess not
not much credible news from him in the past 5 pages of post i see
imo, i think ur superb patience has given him the green light to wave your RM700
id be glad if he flames me and proves me wrong instead laugh.gif
you did your things your way, and theres nothing wrong with that,
but maybe you should really try doing something stern now, seeing its been more than a year since this issue started
children need to be disicplined once in awhile biggrin.gif

till then, all the best =)
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super macgyver, mayb ur name in the 1st page.
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waliu...after reading up to page 18 and the last two pages....i really admire rangered for being so patient...this fcuker should kena few rattans of the big boys...lolz.... hasnt he paid back yet...didnt the poilice do anything after your police report?i support all out there who gonna get this guy...all the sh** to him(moppy,json)...

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wow. i salute your patience rangerRed
i would've gone to find him for a refund at his company with a bunch of hired arms.
this sorta shit happened to me once as well so if all else fails there's the police to go to.. since u have his details.
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QUOTE(VinluV @ Jul 21 2007, 10:51 PM)
wow. i salute your patience rangerRed
i would've gone to find him for a refund at his company with a bunch of hired arms.
this sorta shit happened to me once as well so if all else fails there's the police to go to.. since u have his details.
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wow i realy suprised ...so patient ...why not clal the company and ask for full explanation ..else go to consumer and report ..this is ridicoulous ..
i once see this kind of ppl also ..after you pay them there keep delay ...
this kind of ppl is realy F^%$^$ up ...con people money for their own benefit....
you think our money is drop from the sky ...........pure *******
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u got his detailed and so many ppl rangered for u, u shud make use of the detail and go find him. might be pointless, but still have hope.. if i were u, the moment i saw him, i whack his face 1st....
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ha ha ha~ after quite a while reading this thread~ 100% concentrate and even didnt realize my baby's crying beside me~ this is the end...

if it's me at ur place, i'm not gonna think of the money anymore... all i wanna do, make sure he'll having his gud time in jail, dont care if cant get my money back~ as long as i've done sumthing big rather than hoping~

anyway, till now, i still cant believe, how rangerred can be so calm after what that eshole did to him, if it's me, mayb i've been hanged for 1st degree murder~
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Oh i ask Jason what he is gonna do when all the LYN ppl r asking him to pay up. THe best way to sum up his reply is, "Future still unknown."
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Dear RangerRed,
you are waiting for long time already.. don't wait it anymore. direct make police report again about this case. you have given many chance to him. but did he do anything what he promise? or when free then sms you said delay or another season? and you are don know where he live now working place, you can how to meet him? if you know where he live and work, you can direct report police to catch him and refer back the case you reported last time. because the case already pass over 1 year. that moppy also think you will do nothing of him, after that you will be lazy or forgot to follow up again.. so finally who are lose? you... rangered, you will lose your hard earn money anyway. yours one is rm700. then how about another lyn member? all have around rm1k++. But very thanks of you have open this tread to every member can read and beware case like this.

Above that just my 2cent. Sorry for If any wrong writing or sensitive word i' write..

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RangerRed,

Is very kind of you to giving so many chance to him. And also i salute for your patient. Seriously, it is good to give people a chance like maybe he is in a serious poor situation or what. But, the time period you given is way too much for it edy. For my lil 2cent, you should go for a police report. Beside taking back your refund, should try to get this feller into a punishment. It is not about your money anymore, there might be lots of victim if you din report him right? Who have did wrong, need to be punish. Anyway .. really hope that you can get your refund, and give him some punishment on that.
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RangerRed, I admire your patience and humanity. I hope you'll receive your money back and resolve this matter in a very satisfying manner to you.

As for the irresponsible seller, shame on you.
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Hey, ranger, i don't know this method would work or not. since jason not pay your money back. You can try contact his old company, vismart. then get his home address and home telephone. To contact his parents or brother/sister.

I think this can settle your problem which it already took u nearly 2 years.

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This 1st class cheater now cheat he new company and run away again like last time he cheat vismart he do same thing on waht he do last time


Added on August 1, 2007, 12:35 amNever Scare What he Did Last Summer

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this kind of seller make us hard to do the business through online
Since know where is he, why dont straight go to find him~~
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i read the 1st 8 pages and i already ran out of patience...i was shock to see the date it started and the date of the last post by red ranger..it seems that you havent got any of your money back and you are still ok with it. im just speechless man. ur an elite in being patience.salute
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moppy jason lee ng sing is the scumb who dare even steal his own fren money, hope sumone will go PJ & kejar his family soon. Coz his no more staying at the 2 places in Shah Alam.
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Wah his life must suck.... always 'borrowing money'.... moving around non stop.... it's karma baby karma.
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according to his new company at sonofax, he is running away tis 2th company money again, i wonder how come vismart boss didnt even bother to warning sonofax, maybe jason promised vismart to take money from tis new company to settled the hutang i guess. vmad.gif


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1st Class Cheater: pls come out and protec ur self if ur not do it
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Action speak lounder than word.

just ask him to show me my money & cut the crap. bruce.gif
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RangerRed, you would have won more than RM700 if you were on MTV boiling points. Trust me biggrin.gif
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1st Class Cheater: user posted image Jason Lee Gin Sng. Works for Vismart PJ. Owns a Nissan and a Satria. Earns more than RM4k a month.


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QUOTE(robert88 @ Aug 17 2007, 11:48 PM)
1st Class Cheater: user posted image Jason Lee Gin Sng. Works for Vismart PJ. Owns a Nissan and a Satria. Earns more than RM4k a month.


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why can't police do anything? They can't or they won't? Bloody leechers PDRM.
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Actually Police wont take action if u din have any proof then strong eunf to prove that he is a cheater...
Police will juz investigate the case while they receive report from ppl...
For the investigation...it may take up to weeks or months or years...depend on police want to do it fast or sambil minum coffee lo...
This kind of conman too many already...juz beware la..
OR u all can make a Specific webpage juz to Put the CONMANS photo and info...For all ppl know how shame to be a conman...
last a o0o for conman....i real hate conman
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Till now this thread still exist? so long dy..this GUY still owe you ppl money ?
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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Aug 28 2007, 11:41 PM)
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No news of him refund my money after promised me 7 days ago.
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wah lau, this thread still alive after so many months liaw. nowadays for that few $$$ he cheats .... dunno how he can live through that.
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Unless he's a psychopath and enjoys the attention, he must be writhing in guilt like a maggot in hot water to know that we'll continue talking about him forever.
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UGH!! I can;t believe i read all th 24 pages here.

Rangerred - As far as i can understand, you are a strong believer in Karma, and keep forgiving him. For that, I really respected you for it. I do understand that sometime, by the way you post, that making people pay the hard way will not benefit us, when giving people a little more chance, and maybe you can get back what is lost. But after reading for 24 pages...... i think this guy really doesn't deserve to be good at. You have given him so much, time, money (from smsing him and phoning him), patience... and all to it goes down the drain. You might pity him for making him lose his job, being shit like that, but then again, this is his own doing and he should have guested that things will come to be like that one day. He's a adult, and he should have guested it. If you are really sure that he have 2 cars, then returning the money to you should not be a problem. He just need to sell off one of the cars and all is solved. I don;t really think he owe all of you more than several thousands, right?

Well, I wish you good luck. I really think you should sit down and rethink of what to do with him.

I apologies here if i have said something out of my boundary.

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yea,i'm kinda agree wit runemastertan and i really respect you for your patient and kindness.

i've read this post for 24 pages.its a long long story.you should not just wait there and do nothing.as for my opinion,this kinda conman need to be teach.police cant do anything for cases like this.why not try to settle it by tracking him down and ask him face to face or mayb you can ask sum help from some TAI KOR smile.gif

btw,i dont think he will pay you back the money.RM700+interest (if save in bank) = more than Rm700.i'm feel sad for your misfortune.RM700 is not a small amout.

good luck to you bro~! if you nid any help.can always ask us...LYN member

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Actually, every once in a while we contact Jason n screw him for the money he owes. If u can call that forgiveness hahaha.... I just focus my evil eye on him wink.gif
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even his second company which he conned had report him to police, he still can get a job at KL.
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Of course he can get a job. Remember when you fill in the application form from a company, some will ask " Any criminal records?" or something like that. Answer no in there and most, if not all, will not care to check if you have any criminal records with the police.

Getting a job is easy, and (I'm guessing here) if conning people is what he does best, then sweet talk is a skill he must have. Put the temper aside, because that;s when he let go of his temper when you need to nego and nag him after you pay. But when he's desperate, a lot of people will have patience, him included.

Rangerred - Actually, I don't think I should say this, but what the heck here goes. No offence.

One mans loss is another mans gain. Your (and others) unfortunate experiences is our gain, actually. This really taught us to be more careful in trusting people here, from actually just trust a person like that.

But your loss is his gain........

But if you believe in karma, I'm sure that you'll believe that all are round, what goes around, comes around. He gain your money, you loss your money. He losses job and have a hard life, what you gain? From what I can see, you gain something call experience. A lesson. Something that sometimes you can't even buy with money as well. Although RM700 is a bit too much. I'm sure that you learned and realized something that we didn;t even think of.

Cheers.

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i think it's quite rediculous to wait for a year.. for me (no patience) i'd just be filing a report already tho the sum isn't left much.

anyway.. thanks for the alert on the scam..
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Newbie here.. seldom post but can't help it...all 24 page and you're still having patience? RangerRed u are 1 hell of a patience loving man.. My respect to u man... Report to police... No need to wait.. or ask somebody in the debt collecting business to take from him lar.. tell them if they manage to get the Rm700 then half for them and half for u.. but only after they give him a good lesson...
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moppy second resign company - sonofax keep mail to me tat i still hadnt settle payment which is handle by moppy, but tis @sshole had took my money more than 6 month ago. doh.gif:
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do you have any prove that you have made payment? I'm guessing that you don;t have, since you pay directly to moppy. So, what is your plan?
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lolz...so sleepy to read until this pages.....

if u transfer $$ online just send the transaction to them say u already bank in the $$ to that person acc.....or u any reaceipt...
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lolz...so sleepy to read until this pages.....

if u transfer $$ online just send the transaction to them say u already bank in the $$ to that person acc.....or u any reaceipt...
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hii all..i'm here coz wanna to help..this cheaters called "tipu",so why dont lets d police dept handle this..if u got a proove,just lodge a police report.this case will investigate under sec 420 KK,under "tipu" section..u got a photo of criminal,so its easy to police take an action,police dept can track anybody anywhere,like some word said " u can run but u cant hide"it's a simple ways for police to track people,just they may take an action depend how much serious it's case,like emergency dept at hospital,why they opened emergency dept?n how they handle the injured case,its same to d police dept,if eveybody lodge a report for same people,d action will take asap,they also need some clue to investigate d case,now u all got d clue,why not give it to police,let him stay in jail for several years.d criminal got kwsp account,d account updated everytime u change your job adress,thats only 1 way i can tell here how police track criminal..n there is 100 ways they got.
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QUOTE(ujang_je @ Nov 11 2007, 05:40 AM)
hii all..i'm here coz wanna to help..this cheaters called "tipu",so why dont lets d police dept handle this..if u got a proove,just lodge a police report.this case will investigate under sec 420 KK,under "tipu" section..u got a photo of criminal,so its easy to police take an action,police dept can track anybody anywhere,like some word said " u can run but u cant hide"it's a simple ways for police to track people,just they may take an action depend how much serious it's case,like emergency dept at hospital,why they opened emergency dept?n how they handle the injured case,its same to d police dept,if eveybody lodge a report for same people,d action will take asap,they also need some clue to investigate d case,now u all got d clue,why not give it to police,let him stay in jail for several years.d criminal got kwsp account,d account updated everytime u change your job adress,thats only 1 way i can tell here how police track criminal..n there is 100 ways they got.
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omg i rad thru 24pages.... 1hour zzzz, imho, it really pisses us off right after alll those delaying and excuses , but after a year or so.. it ll all chill and forgotten, so i kinda understand ranger's act to be a bigger man and let it go. Kudos tho, if it is me, theres a 'mercenaries' everywhere, pay 700 to go teach this jason a lesson.
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so obvious something not right edi. No reply edi. Report police or find out where he stay or work and go find him.
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shakehead.gif omg after read through all this i already scared to trade online... better go to the shop and buy shakehead.gif rangerred just to see his picture make my blood boiled..... if i ever came across of him... i will beat him up on behalf of you...... whistling.gif that just the interest of what he owe you man
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Trade online doesnt mean bad. Just need to trade smart . If a person wants to con you it will take place anywhere in real life or internet.

Small amount go ahead but if big amount suggest COD if too far just forget it .

Conman are everywhere
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QUOTE(Velocity @ Nov 30 2007, 03:19 AM)
Trade online doesnt mean bad. Just need to trade smart . If a person wants to con you  it will take place anywhere in real life or internet.

Small amount go ahead but if big amount suggest COD if too far just forget it .

Conman are everywhere
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agree on this!
remember it takes years to built trust but it will only take suspicion to destroy it.

btw, according to one of my friends who used to work in Imbi, this guy always come to his shop last year to push vismart's product. after he become so famous here, no news de.
conman will get their due... sooner or later.
God is fair.
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his second company had report him to police tis year.
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Why don't you lodge a police report, since u already have his picture, IC and phone number. Fraud is a serious criminal offence.
Alternatively, even if he is not a conman, you can go to a lawyer and sue for breach of contract and under the tort of negligent misrepresentation and fraud!
Don't be afraid to bring criminal and wrongdoers to justice!!
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First ever post on LYN and I had to do it after reading ALL 24 pages during my lunch break! Now feeling damn hungry but still need to salute ranger for his utmost patience in the whole ordeal.

This guy deserves to be put behind bars for what he is worth, and he is definitely not worth the chances afforded to him.
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hope his 3th company is not going to kena con by him again. doh.gif
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I hate these kinda people the most. They wont tell u the truth. All the merely think of is the money earned. BUGGERS
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hmm... like such thingy, can posted on newspaper or not? if can then all of u who got conned should do it, so other company won't be conned again.
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QUOTE(aslongas @ Dec 24 2007, 03:05 PM)
hmm... like such thingy, can posted on newspaper or not? if can then all of u who got conned should do it, so other company won't be conned again.
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his 2th company had report to police. anyway, next time, beware those salesman like moppy jason lee want to help u open a individual acc with his company, as he will missuse ur account for sum bad trade. doh.gif
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er.. so the case is solved or still hunting for this conman?
lazy to read.. to many pages LOL biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ayil @ Jan 1 2008, 06:03 PM)
er.. so the case is solved or still hunting for this conman?
lazy to read.. to many pages LOL biggrin.gif
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of course still hunting him.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jan 1 2008, 07:56 PM)
of course still hunting him.
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ya right...i do admit that i owe ranger the money..but i did not con any of my company....if i did for sure now i have been arrest by the police as u said they had make a poice report... i also admit have delay ranger the payment day after a day,just bcos i don`t have the cash...


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I havent yet received any money... n u dont need to tell me that u dumped 50, 50 already.. i have check n there is nothing from outside transfer.
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QUOTE(moppy @ Jan 4 2008, 12:20 AM)
ya right...i do admit that i owe ranger the money..but i did not con any of my company....if i did for sure now i  have been arrest by the police as u said they had make a poice report... i also admit have delay ranger the payment day after a day,just bcos i don`t have the cash...
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its more than half a year already. Don tell me that RM100 oso u cannot afford to pay Ranger ?
U really funny icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(moppy @ Jan 4 2008, 12:20 AM)
ya right...i do admit that i owe ranger the money..but i did not con any of my company....if i did for sure now i  have been arrest by the police as u said they had make a poice report... i also admit have delay ranger the payment day after a day,just bcos i don`t have the cash...
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shakehead.gif action speak lounder than words. just return my money, so far already been more than 1 yr. whistling.gif
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moppy, actually you have a money but to settle your debt is not your main priority rite ?
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wow long story here...
hmm should be more carefull in future.. so in short.. who to black list ya ?how about.. providing help to promote "this"con-man ?biggrin.gif
i can set it as my signature ?biggrin.gif hehe i don mind..
by the way.. to cut the story short.. who is those "con man" ?
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*lazy to read total of 25 pages rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(moppy @ Jan 4 2008, 01:20 AM)
ya right...i do admit that i owe ranger the money..but i did not con any of my company....if i did for sure now i  have been arrest by the police as u said they had make a poice report... i also admit have delay ranger the payment day after a day,just bcos i don`t have the cash...
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After reading this forum for 2 years and i hv a question keep playing in my mind...Y is this person does not grant a dispute tag??? I dun understand!!! Dis is our members and reputation of this forum at stake!
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QUOTE(QiQio @ Jan 13 2008, 02:34 AM)
After reading this forum for 2 years and i hv a question keep playing in my mind...Y is this person does not grant a dispute tag??? I dun understand!!! Dis is our members and reputation of this forum at stake!
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Yup totaly agree with you.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(FirezZ @ Jan 7 2008, 04:07 PM)
wow long story here...
hmm should be more carefull in future.. so in short.. who to black list ya ?how about.. providing help to promote "this"con-man ?biggrin.gif
i can set it as my signature ?biggrin.gif hehe i don mind..
by the way.. to cut the story short.. who is those "con man" ?
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*lazy to read total of 25 pages  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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This pervert con man Mr Lee come from verbatim distributor Vismart company, dark skin chinese guy, mouth full of crap & empty promise, sumore cheated company customer money & stolen company stock. doh.gif
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Wow. When I first read this thread, I didn't realised it was in 2006. It's now 2008 and this is still around. I am amazed he still comes here instead of totally avoiding this forum. And after so long still no money??

Someone in that much debt would normally sell off one of their cars or maybe even their computer. rolleyes.gif
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goodbye to your money la.. will not get back one lar.. going 2 years anniversary not even a dime pay out.. don;t waste anymore time hoping lar. Just hope he rots in hell and that his life sucks for the rest of his life.
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wow...
the heat is up, i better add moppy to my blacklist too.
never deal with that kind of person.
now polis boleh trace phone calls already. you can report la, sure kena tangkap 1
they can even trace down online pirated dvd sellers, why not MSN
just get his IP and track him down, take him out...

sampah masyarakat!!!
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QUOTE(general_odin @ Jan 19 2008, 04:17 PM)
wow...
the heat is up, i better add moppy to my blacklist too.
never deal with that kind of person.
now polis boleh trace phone calls already. you can report la, sure kena tangkap 1
they can even trace down online pirated dvd sellers, why not MSN
just get his IP and track him down, take him out...

sampah masyarakat!!!
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Streamyx uses dynamic IP, and most Malaysians use Streamyx.
Its easier said than done. Remember last time they implemented the prepaid registration thing?
Do u think its working now? Malaysian govt can only cakap kosong.

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