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> [WTC] J,Boy and Moppy. Cluelessness mixed with, lies and more lies.

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post Jun 20 2006, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(J @ boy,Jun 20 2006, 11:21 AM)
If you guys think that i`m really a conman ere to earn ppl blood and sweet money.....then just time about that
i have sold so many LCD in lyn forum and it`s almost more then 6 month..... cos got some delay means i`m a conman....
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i deal with moppy before on the jazz speakers. yeah you are right DELAY doesnt means you are a conman but moppy DELAYED my speakers more than a month after i bank in the money into his account!

actually it was bro RangerRed pm me and asked me for moppy details. then only i realized moppy and jboy are both using the same information, same bank account, same hp and SAME NAME! so this is the best time for you to do some explanation here.

i dont wanna accuse you anything since i received the jazz speakers at the end but it was both of you, moppy & jboy did gave me a very "best time". delay and delay and delay. to make it a short story here, all these were excuses i got from moppy,

busy preparing for pc fair. then pc fair lah no staff check speakers lah. then no stock lah. then moppy not around asked me to pm jboy lah. then jboy said need to check with moppy lah. then GDEX forgot to come pick up lah. then said GDEX came and pickup already but when asked for tracking no. moppy said he was outside need to go back to office first. then i waited the next day whole day GDEX didnt showup. then called back moppy said wrong address lah GDEX returned back. then delayed another few more days and finally received the speakers after waiting/delaying more than a month!

by the way, forgot to include the best part in my short story... during all the delay things when i called moppy, he always not answering my calls. i called him too many times using my hp and house phone both also he refused to answer until i called using my wife's hp, then he answered!!! but immediately he knew it was me he hang up. at the end i created a topic in garage sales section WTF moppy and after that only moppy started PROCESSING and DELIVER my speakers.

so conclusion here... jboy mind to explain here why those excuses in RangerRed case are so similar to my past experience with moppy and all these excuses must always include 2 main ppl into the scenario, jboy and moppy!
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post Jun 20 2006, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jun 20 2006, 11:53 AM)
judge-the, apparently that is Moppy's style of doing things.
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ok no prob i am cool here. just hope you can work things out on your side there.
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post Jun 27 2006, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jun 27 2006, 08:16 PM)
J,Boy you are suppose to bank in RM200 on last saturday and the remaining amount on this saturday 1st July. I have yet been credited the RM200 to my account. Please make sure you pay the whole amount you promised by this saturday.

I will no longer remind you either through lowyat.net or through my phone.

All I ask is that you will be honest and responsible.
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i knew how you felt there because my previous deal with moppy end of last year was dragged more than 4 weeks.

anyway i am not going to create any new issues on my previous deal here but my little advice to you is just make sure these 2 ppl DELIVER their words/promises ON TIME because if not they will give you lots of excuses and finally the so-called "not answering your calls".

please take note, these 2 persons didnt con anyone yet but to them any DELAYS are ok as long as they deliver in the end but on our side as buyer DELAYS are not ok at all!
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post Jul 1 2006, 12:36 PM

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bro RangerRed update us at 3pm.
jboy please think many2 times before you attempt anything!
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post Jul 1 2006, 05:22 PM

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bro RangerRed i think you should starts doing something already. no point of listening to jboy/moppy. i got very bad experiences with moppy and trust me they wont bother calling you or inform you anything if got delay! i think you given them extra so many days already.
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post Jul 3 2006, 07:54 AM

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bro ranger red,
i would suggest to you go filed a police report 1st. if this jboy really sincere in paying you back he should have update you from time to time and also a simple phone call telling you he got this problem or that problem will do but as usual jboy/moppy both using same irresponsible delay tactics.


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post Jul 3 2006, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(squall_12 @ Jul 3 2006, 07:57 AM)
or maybe bcos the jboy or moppy is the same person with 2 different personality????
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well i got no proofs showing these 2 persons is the same guy but i deal with moppy end of last year and indeed all the informartion i received from moppy is exactly the same as what bro rangered received from jboy. anyway there's another thread by moppy explaining the situation already.
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post Jul 4 2006, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 4 2006, 02:55 PM)
How serious are you about paying me back J,Boy?
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any pm/sms/call from him at all?
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post Jul 4 2006, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 4 2006, 07:24 PM)
As promised something to read. I ask Moppy aka J,Boy that if he truely believes in his friend J,Boy then he would swear an oath to me:

Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Mon Jul 03 13:06:33 2006
[13:06] Jason Lee: Good afternoon
[13:07] scorping: Afternoon
[13:08] Jason Lee: I`m moppy ere
[13:08] Jason Lee: u can call me jason also
[13:08] Jason Lee: you there
[13:09] scorping: yeah
[13:09] scorping: i know u r both moppy n j,boy
[13:09] Jason Lee: kekekeke
[13:09] Jason Lee: no point for me to explain

[13:09] Jason Lee: but we are not the same
[13:10] Jason Lee: is there anyhow u can just give him a chance
[13:10] Jason Lee: cos if u wan to push him so much also no point
[13:10] scorping: i have yet to see even a partical payment
[13:10] Jason Lee: btw just to let u know his phone is bared
[13:11] Jason Lee: so he can`t call you
[13:12] Jason Lee: ok, maybe i will ask him to make some first
[13:12] Jason Lee: other then this matter is there anyhow to settle it
[13:12] Jason Lee: cos i know now he don`t have that much cash
[13:13] scorping: to settle it he must post in the one of my threads when n how much he intends to pay
[13:13] Jason Lee: hmm...
[13:13] scorping: that means also whatever scheme he wants
[13:14] scorping: like 200 a week or month or whatever
[13:14] Jason Lee: wah!!!
[13:14] Jason Lee: u r that good
[13:14] Jason Lee: 200 a month
[13:14] scorping: n the exact date n time the amount to be paid
[13:14] Jason Lee: i can`t take it la
[13:14] Jason Lee: i talk to him
[13:15] Jason Lee: then i will msn u ok
[13:15] scorping: that means he wants to settle he has to post in one of the thread E.G. I will pay on 4th of every month rm200 until the rm700 is completely paid up starting from today
[13:16] scorping: for example
[13:16] scorping: but it has to be black n white in the disput thread
[13:16] Jason Lee: i wan to ask u la
[13:16] Jason Lee: what is the point you wan him to post it
[13:16] scorping: n i will audit my account with a screenshot every month 1 day before n 1 day so ppl can see if he did pay in
[13:17] scorping: so ppl can see
[13:17] scorping: complete transparancy
[13:17] Jason Lee: why don`t like that , i will promise you by this 3 weeks(just for in case) u will get the LCD or the money  for sure
[13:18] scorping: u promise? there is no proof of ur promise u know
[13:18] Jason Lee: can you just  believe me once more
[13:18] Jason Lee: it depends to you
[13:19] scorping: do u swear on ur father's and mother's life that j,boy will pay by 3 weeks
[13:19] Jason Lee: I don`t mind
[13:19] Jason Lee: but why must said my parents out
[13:19] Jason Lee: if i swear wf myself it`s ok
[13:20] Jason Lee: pls.. we are not kids anymore
[13:20] Jason Lee: if i`m not wrong you are 20 ++ already so do i
[13:20] scorping: thats right
[13:20] scorping: swearing on ur parents' life is a serious thing
[13:20] Jason Lee: i know
[13:20] scorping: it means u absoluely believe in j,boy
[13:20] Jason Lee: that why i said
[13:21] Jason Lee: yes i do
[13:21] scorping: then swear it here
[13:21] Jason Lee: cos i know him since 12 years old
[13:21] scorping: i want to see those words
[13:21] Jason Lee: why not like that
[13:21] scorping: i then i will close both threads for 3 weeks
[13:21] scorping: i will not post in either of them
[13:22] Jason Lee: I swear that he will give you in this 3 weeks if not my life is yours
[13:22] scorping: until 3 weeks is up
[13:22] scorping: Add ur parents' life in
[13:22] scorping: I will not kill u or them if he does not pay up
[13:23] scorping: when u die, god will judge u n ur parents for believing in j,boy
[13:23] scorping: it will be a mark on ur soul so to speak
[13:23] Jason Lee: why don`t like that can u swear that u will close all the thread you open by swearing on ur parents' life
[13:23] scorping: should ur friend fail to u to keep his promise to me
[13:24] Jason Lee: plssplss
[13:24] Jason Lee: don`t play wf parents
[13:24] Jason Lee: this is the first time i`m having a chat
[13:25] Jason Lee: but never thought that u will be that mean
[13:25] scorping: I swear on my parents' lives that if J,Boy pays me back RM700 in 3 weeks starting from today i will close both threads, confirm he paid me in full n not mention this whole affair again.
[13:25] scorping: I am not that mean
[13:25] scorping: I am serious
[13:25] Jason Lee: wah!!!!
[13:25] scorping: Now how good is ur faith in him?
[13:28] scorping: that means if he pays me within 3 weeks (that means not 3 weeks n 1 day) i will post in my threads j,boy refunded n i will not talk anymore about it n close both threads
[13:29] scorping: that means the whole case will be discuss online or offline with anyone else
[13:30] scorping: well?
[13:31] scorping: Dont take 3 weeks to decide
[13:41] scorping: i'll be out until 7pm
[13:42] scorping: maybe u're have answer by then
[14:36] Jason Lee: soli
[14:36] Jason Lee: just came back from outside
[14:36] Jason Lee: online or off it`s depends to you
[14:36] Jason Lee: i don`t really mind that much cos those ppl started to api j,boy and myself
[14:38] scorping: so has j,boy accepted the condition?
[14:38] scorping: or have u?
[14:48] scorping: Still thinking?
[14:48] scorping: oh well
[14:56] scorping: If he wants to give a LCD in exchange for money i know someone that will collect it n post it to me.
[14:57] scorping: of course the lcd has to be at least the same model offered or higher
[14:57] scorping: but totally flawless
[14:57] scorping: but the swearing on parents still applies
[19:57] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Mon Jul 03 19:57:21 2006.
Session Start (scorping@hotmail.com:Jason Lee): Tue Jul 04 12:56:38 2006
[12:57] scorping: I guess J,Boy is not sincere about giving me any amount of money back
[12:57] scorping: I also would mind RM200 a month as long as he swears he will pay on the same day every month without fail. Swear an oath on his parents' lives that is.
[14:55] scorping: go read trade dispute section
[17:39] *** "Jason Lee" signed off at Tue Jul 04 17:39:48 2006.
Well whatever dude. Come tomorrow you will love what's gonna happen next.
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BUSTED!!! all the best to you mr moppy/jboy tomorrow!
too bad you didnt realized how good was bro rangerred and how kind was he all these while. so you just sit tight there enjoy and see what will ppl do to you.
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post Jul 5 2006, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(hbh60 @ Jul 5 2006, 11:39 AM)
Yes he do have Maybank account :
112344041813
Lee Gin Sng
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since bro rangerred worked out 1 more last solution with moppy/jboy then i think it's better if you just create a new thread/post to settle your dispute there because both also separate cases even though same seller. just my 2cents opinion only no hard feelings here.
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post Jul 17 2006, 01:09 PM

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bro rangerred i really hope you all the best because i dont wanna stir up anything. mr jboy promised 3 weeks to refund you and yet not even 1 sms or call from him at all and there goes his sincerity...
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post Jul 25 2006, 05:31 PM

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bro rangerred when is the 3 weeks extension due?

well i personally see jboy not sincere at all because you gave him 3 weeks extension for refund and yet he didnt even give you a call/sms at all. everythnig was deal through moppy. always moppy telling us jboy got this and that problems and i dont see why cant just jboy give rangerred a call. and the promise was given by moppy on jboy's behalf. just curious only where is jboy now or maybe we should ask moppy and again moppy can tell us what jboy wants.

anyway jboy consider yourself very lucky coz rangerred is nice nad understanding.
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post Jul 26 2006, 03:21 PM

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so rangerred did jboy refund you yet? or maybe moppy will give you another reason again and need another extension for jboy again.
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post Jul 28 2006, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(RangerRed @ Jul 28 2006, 02:01 PM)
Received a SMS from moppy:

"I know you or someone have just call my company.... i will settle this matter soon"

Wonder what that meant?
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how soon? rangerred already gave you extra 3 weeks extension and yet no call/sms at all to update buyer. how come jboy no longer here? and why always moppy say this and that on jboy's behalf? i thought moppy and jboy working in the same company so jboy must know something and take some initiative to update rangerred.

well both of them claimed using the same person name same bank account and same hp to deal in lowyat so now guess both of them also got mixed up in reality.

* if you really wanna refund rangerred you should have at least pay him some money... rm300 or rm200 or even rm100 sure ppl will accept and give you more time.

This post has been edited by judge-the: Jul 28 2006, 02:54 PM
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post Jul 29 2006, 09:13 AM

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any updates?
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post Jul 29 2006, 11:43 AM

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rangerred i think enough is enough already lah. if he really wanna pay why need extra 3 weeks and then after 3 weeks over still nothing and now pusing sini sana. WTF is rm70? why after 3 weeks now only wanna starts paying rm70 and need 10 months to refund the full rm700? then until this moment still no money at all!

my advice to you just go make a police report. let the police investigate the bank account's owner. let that owner explain to police why moppy and jboy this and that and who took that rm700. you got all the particulars including his workplace and police will be very happy because all information are complete. if really pay then you just withdraw the police report and case close.
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post Aug 2 2006, 07:46 AM

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bro rangerred any latest updates?
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post Aug 4 2006, 10:34 AM

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ok i've called mr calvin in vismart and spoke to him just now. gave him all my particulars and also the transaction i did with moppy last december.

hope everyone that purchased anything from moppy/jboy please do the same.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Aug 4 2006, 11:56 AM)
Did you ask whether they will cover the usual warranty as given by standard purchase? They should, since you guys are a victim of irresponsible seller who got it from valid source.

What I am guessing is this, moppy uses jboy's name to get minimum units (let's say 5 units) from vismart to make it looks like a valid sales to reseller. Then he uses jboy nick to sell it here. He could most probably be using jboy name and account directly himself to deal. The real jboy person is probably his friend or someone who might be getting or not getting any benefit out of this. And when things get sour, he started to scream at everyone and all his irresponsible trait starts to show.

Anyway, that's my speculation only. Regardless, he is still a loser who deserve to lose his job. Or is he still with vismart?
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warranty still valid for those that purchased from moppy/jboy. but better let rangerred explain and reconfirm on this lah because he spoke to vismart. i cant confirm anything because i just call calvin and told him my transaction with moppy last december.
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post Aug 4 2006, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(zamree7 @ Aug 4 2006, 03:35 PM)
got another person from vismart selling CMV monitors here...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=319670

i wonder if distributor can sell direct to end-user with that sort of price?
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mr calvin told me this morning in the phone this user, ECtest is officially from vismart and selling online to public. transaction MUST cash on delivery in vismart office only.

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