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Investment 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market, Property Investment

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JC999
post Nov 16 2013, 03:40 PM

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Well another factor considering ownership vs rental, the yearly assessment has just been double and I am sure many has received their 5 fiqure assessment for kl properties. I know a few friends who has just been slap an RM10K assessment to be paid and their rental is just RM1,500 a month so for FYE2013 it would been a lost for them after loan repayment.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Community/2...esidents-l.aspx
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post Nov 16 2013, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(tylowyat @ Nov 16 2013, 03:34 PM)
A strong guess is KL prices will b too cheap that the China Chinese, even Korean & Japanese must buy. Many HK buyers have already bought into few prime city areas recently, that's what I heard.

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post Nov 16 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(JC999 @ Nov 16 2013, 03:40 PM)
Well another factor considering ownership vs rental, the yearly assessment has just been double and I am sure many has received their 5 fiqure assessment for kl properties. I know a few friends who has just been slap an RM10K assessment to be paid and their rental is just RM1,500 a month so for FYE2013 it would been a lost for them after loan repayment.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Community/2...esidents-l.aspx
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10K assessment doesn't mean owners pay RM10K/ year, just percentage of it eg 6% mean RM 600 per year divided into 2 payment of RM 300 every 6 months.

As for the word bubble just mean rapid price increase, faster than income, only when it reaches unsustainable it's burst@decline than is a problem as real estate bubble r more critical as it may last for years compare to stock market, but can be a shopping gala those who r still loaded after economic "Haiyan". .lol
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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 16 2013, 09:22 PM)
I saw the 30% article but it won't happen for oversupply reason. There are very limited supply at HK and now the HK Govt have to acquire Agri Lands at the super outskirts of HK (border of China Mainland) in order to convert it for Resi development.
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Hong Kong has one of the world’s lowest birth rates—1.11 per woman of child-bearing age asof 2012, far below the replacement rate of 2.1.
With just 1,032 babies born in 2009 to every 1000 fertile women, it is estimated that 26.8% of the population will be aged 65 or more in 2033, up from 12.1% in 2005.

Speculation, money laundering, black money, underworld king ping turn developer.

Another fake demand like previous oil crisis which proven to be a scam.
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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 16 2013, 09:22 PM)
I saw the 30% article but it won't happen for oversupply reason. There are very limited supply at HK and now the HK Govt have to acquire Agri Lands at the super outskirts of HK (border of China Mainland) in order to convert it for Resi development.
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Hong Kong has one of the world’s lowest birth rates—1.11 per woman of child-bearing age asof 2012, far below the replacement rate of 2.1.
With just 1,032 babies born in 2009 to every 1000 fertile women, it is estimated that 26.8% of the population will be aged 65 or more in 2033, up from 12.1% in 2005.

Speculation, money laundering, black money, underworld king ping turn developer.

Another fake demand like previous oil crisis which proven to be a scam.
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post Nov 16 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 16 2013, 09:22 PM)
I saw the 30% article but it won't happen for oversupply reason. There are very limited supply at HK and now the HK Govt have to acquire Agri Lands at the super outskirts of HK (border of China Mainland) in order to convert it for Resi development.

See the attached latest news from HK investment magazine
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Supply of land in HK has always been limited.

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post Nov 17 2013, 12:30 AM

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If cant pay my mortagages, then my world bubbled even the world is not.
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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 16 2013, 11:52 PM)

a load of rubbish by the book without practicality.


how to relate the chart with the below?  cool2.gif
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post Nov 17 2013, 01:04 AM

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Bubble bubble here we go again. Bubble tea.
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post Nov 17 2013, 02:18 AM

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R.Kiyosaki also die because of the bubble.
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QUOTE(Minolta @ Nov 17 2013, 01:04 AM)
Bubble bubble here we go again. Bubble tea.
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QUOTE(JC999 @ Nov 16 2013, 03:40 PM)
Well another factor considering ownership vs rental, the yearly assessment has just been double and I am sure many has received their 5 fiqure assessment for kl properties. I know a few friends who has just been slap an RM10K assessment to be paid and their rental is just RM1,500 a month so for FYE2013 it would been a lost for them after loan repayment.

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Community/2...esidents-l.aspx
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post Nov 17 2013, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 17 2013, 12:40 AM)
the reality is that you kept posting round and round without concrete supporting facts.

if you have the real points, indeed no one gonna say you wrong. face it, post it, & elaborate it instead of keep copy/ paste irrelevant charts & links.
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I think he already reply yr question, there are price correction even thou you said HK with limited land always said never drop.
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post Nov 17 2013, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 17 2013, 05:19 AM)
He didn't bankrupt if you know how business works. He has many companies and cash, he just need to bankrupt the below to avoid paying USD23M. The cash in this company is still with him not to mention the money from other companies.

I have seen a director get his company listed in KLSE and the share shoot from RM0.20 to RM2 then become RM0 (bankrupt) but he became few x richer.

You have a lot to learn.
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post Nov 17 2013, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 17 2013, 06:54 AM)
i didn't say hk prop price never drop, i was only disagreeing with your claim that it will drop 30% by 2015.

being a student don't always quote words out of context.
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How do you know it will never drop to that level?
Nobody know, it may up also. The research is done by the big company there. Surely they know better.

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post Nov 17 2013, 07:04 AM

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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 17 2013, 07:01 AM)
This is only your opinion, it happens everywhere  yawn.gif
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Happened doesn't mean ppl wanted to. Ask around those successful biz ppls, will they do that if there is others options.
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post Nov 17 2013, 07:05 AM

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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 17 2013, 07:03 AM)
No one can predict the future even the so call "big company".

From my experience and exposure with HK i think I know this place better than those "expert" that predict for the sake of predict.

And you the naive copy/ paste poster only read without practicality.
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Sorry, is not me who copy/paste the articles.
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post Nov 17 2013, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 17 2013, 07:06 AM)
both iceman, surely dupe
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QUOTE(manapergi @ Nov 17 2013, 07:09 AM)
It is the same saying would a vegetarian eat meat if there is other options but the fact is that one ate meat.

The key point is what have been done instead of what options available, don't divert topic.
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post Nov 17 2013, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Nov 17 2013, 07:04 AM)
Happened doesn't mean ppl wanted to. Ask around those successful biz ppls, will they do that if there is others options.
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i know ex mca president, tan koon swan did that. now he is a tycoon in china. guess he is very happy living in china
maybe they are many biz man did that, we know only those famous ppl.

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