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Investment 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market, Property Investment

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post Nov 17 2013, 12:30 AM

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If cant pay my mortagages, then my world bubbled even the world is not.
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post Nov 23 2013, 10:48 AM

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Probably millionaires by loan basis. Many acquire new props bcos in fear being left behind and cant afford buy more in future. Nothing wrong if still capable of buying, just dont over commit will do.
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post Nov 23 2013, 12:08 PM

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Many new projs everywhere if dont compare location, normally (my own opinion) i choose not to blame flippers for taking units before needy buyer for ownstay. If want buy must act fast, and dont complain all sold out and never take initiative to go see and planning ahead what prop you want. Life is not fair, run faster if you hv the stemina else you need to catch up from behind. If fear of price drop or up, can sell now or buy now. Be responsible for your decision and your action will "cost" you either positively or negatively. Else, wait to see you got guts/$ to grab any if price is within your reach.

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post Nov 27 2013, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Nov 27 2013, 07:32 PM)
sometimes there isn't much to discuss anymore...both UUU and DDD parties have already presented their points...now is the time to wait only...

so far... UUU camp is winning cuz the bubble burst mantra already going on for at least a few years... smile.gif

results speaks louder than words or discussion...
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post Nov 27 2013, 08:24 PM

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post Nov 29 2013, 09:13 AM

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Pricing psf is very important. anything more than rm900k imo will be hard to dispose if old prop condo unless bigbig sf contra then $/sf is lower. Smaller units are easier to sell or get loan plus location, location and cencept are playing important roles adding to prop value.
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post Nov 29 2013, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Nov 29 2013, 08:07 PM)
Point is, man on the street, real estate agent, economic expert, nobody can predict what's going to happen next year.

You may be right that there is a property bubble and it may burst. You could also be dead wrong and prices still goes up.

If anyone knows for sure, he certainly won't be this forum commenting like you.
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next yr more millionaires are born and same for more people are getting poor poorer
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post Nov 30 2013, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 29 2013, 11:52 PM)
If you have reinvested your profit back to properties, until liquidation with cash in bank account, it is only a paper profit.
Don't count your chicken before they are hatched.
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Now counting who are the chickens and counting how many hens ready to lay eggs.
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post Nov 30 2013, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Nov 30 2013, 11:04 AM)
Genuine investors with strong holding power should still be buying regardless whether up or down.

Just buy at the fundamentals. I myself bought 2 units this year sub sale at subang because of the location and rental sustainability.

So long as we can sustain it, I treat it as a long time investment that I have no intention to flip.
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+1 on this "Genuine investors with strong holding power should still be buying regardless whether up or down".


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post Nov 30 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Nov 30 2013, 12:12 PM)
I don't know how long to wait before it is the optimum time to enter the market.

Do you?  biggrin.gif

If you do, please tell me when the bubble will burst.

I would love to know.
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i like to know when bubble will boom also.
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post Dec 3 2013, 08:51 PM

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Any new launching this weekends? im free and nothing to do.
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post Dec 3 2013, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Dec 3 2013, 09:00 PM)
Some project recently launched stil hav some nice units. Maybe a lil big in size. But guess they ll not increase the price for now. Pushing sales b4 yr end.  bruce.gif  wave.gif
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if psf still reasonable, i will go see.
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post Dec 3 2013, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(kurtkob78 @ Dec 3 2013, 09:04 PM)
i may provide queue service  blush.gif
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post Dec 3 2013, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Dec 3 2013, 09:32 PM)
Disposable income down due to many basic barang baik. Buy basic barang more important.

interest rate up.  Investment is to make bank richer.

More unit vp and stay empty. Rent roi worst than reit.

maintenance go up rent flat making roi super low.

Mrt line allow people to live in kajang cheap why rent your bukit jalil overprice.

govt policy asking tak suka go back tong san maling rich people go migatrate to bangkok.

Crime up making fireigner not buying your subsales.

Govt built more afforatable many 1st time buyer not buying from you. U got to hold longer and bleeding longer.

dibs not allow. Rebate rpgt etc not allow games over for flipper.

Now everyone can built condo. Company last time selling diper also launching condo project making supply more than demand.

developer launching with 45% profit margin only left you with bone. Many smart one investor already stop buy. Why taking high risk with thin profit.
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post Dec 11 2013, 09:17 AM

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The multi-home group is hoping prop dont drop, if drops, total portfolio drop. Always can rent out cheaper for difficult time if any, but normally they just earn less for disposing prematurely. Some rich cash group can do anything, buy more or rent less or die die hold. Other group is hoping better price down to save and acquire a better home. At the end also hope their prop to go up. It depends who u r and your next agenda according to your capability.


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post Dec 11 2013, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Dec 11 2013, 09:38 AM)
Many ppl don't realize that with every property slump comes many other problems. It doesn't just affect investments but also ppl's livelihood. That's why we should and must prevent property slumps because the recovery can stretch for years.
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Ya. People still reluctant to accept in order to acquire cheap prop stay far lor. If slumps, many will suffer in general. If up, sorry to say, imo, less people suffer but more people work harder so can afford better location or house.
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post Dec 12 2013, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Dec 12 2013, 01:35 AM)
I know of a new agent who bought himself 4 properties last year using loan with intention to flip. With the new budget, I doubt he'd be able to earn much renting out / selling before 6th year is up.  rclxub.gif He really dug himself a very deep hole. He complained he only managed to collect a couple of rental commissions past months. For him bad time has started. The property we appointed him to sell 2 years ago, he still can't sell.  hmm.gif
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If that agent made mistake in his selection, what make yours? Yours cant sell but tenanted?


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post Dec 12 2013, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(katijar @ Dec 12 2013, 08:55 AM)
sorry if slow ...

"In anticipation of a shock"

A FEW weeks ago, a friend of mine was having a discussion with a property agent. He wanted to flip his condominimum after taking vacant possession but was told by the agent he will find it difficult to sell his property at the price he wants. She told him it’s a buyers market out there.

He then confided in me that he was paying RM10,000 to service his loan on the property. If he were to sell his unit at the price he wants, the buyer will probably have to pay a higher monthly instalment. Just how many Malaysians can afford to pay for such a property?

full article: http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...of-a-shock.aspx
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post Dec 14 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Dec 14 2013, 09:31 AM)
Well, I guess the 1 million ruling really did us in.

At least there will soon be plenty of cheap props at iskandar soon....
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cheap prop soon in iskandar?
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post Dec 14 2013, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 14 2013, 11:16 AM)
Given number of units under construction, it is almost certain.
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I can agree if cheap prop is defined as budgeted prop and it did not go up much after vp (up less than 20%). Unlikely price cut to the level DDD campers are dreaming of.

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