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tmc
post Jun 5 2022, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jun 5 2022, 11:46 AM)
Samsung Q600b a good option to have a little bit of Atmos experience? Couldn't find much reviews online about it yet, mostly on the Q600a model.
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I suspect these soundbars are meant for typical apartment or smaller room, where it uses the wall to achieve better acoustic effect. So if your room fits that definition you are quite safe to buy these things.

If you are putting it big spacious hall, then the effect will be very disappointing....


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post Jun 5 2022, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 5 2022, 12:25 PM)
I suspect these soundbars are meant for typical apartment or smaller room, where it uses the wall to achieve better acoustic effect. So if your room fits that definition you are quite safe to buy these things.

If you are putting it big spacious hall, then the effect will be very disappointing....
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Yes it's just for a small room. So far I found this model and LG SN7Y which have a dedicated up firing speakers to mimic the real downfiring Atmos speakers. I know we won't get real Atmos experience below 2k budget, at least if I can hear something flying above like in the movie, that's already good enough.
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post Jun 5 2022, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jun 5 2022, 12:48 PM)
Yes it's just for a small room. So far I found this model and LG SN7Y which have a dedicated up firing speakers to mimic the real downfiring Atmos speakers. I know we won't get real Atmos experience below 2k budget, at least if I can hear something flying above like in the movie, that's already good enough.
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What are the spec for LG SN7Y ?

According to Lazada two different sellers, they are putting up different spec ( 5.1,440w vs 3.1.2,380w )

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post Jun 5 2022, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 5 2022, 12:59 PM)
What are the spec for LG SN7Y ?

According to Lazada two different sellers, they are putting up different spec ( 5.1,440w vs 3.1.2,380w )

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440w is SN8Y
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post Jun 5 2022, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jun 5 2022, 11:46 AM)
Samsung Q600b a good option to have a little bit of Atmos experience? Couldn't find much reviews online about it yet, mostly on the Q600a model.
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This is the difference between the Q600b and Q600a :-

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post Jun 5 2022, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 5 2022, 03:37 PM)
This is the difference between the Q600b and Q600a :-

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Q600a does not have WiFi capability. I noticed that RTings rated the Q600a a bit higher than the more expensive Sony G700. The Sony has good performance for movies but a bit lacking in music and dialogue clarity. Having a Sony TV making me inclined for another Sony devices but the Samsung is more future proof. It also cheaper to buy the surround speaker kit if I want to transform it to 5.1.
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post Jun 5 2022, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Jun 5 2022, 03:49 PM)
Q600a does not have WiFi capability. I noticed that RTings rated the Q600a a bit higher than the more expensive Sony G700. The Sony has good performance for movies but a bit lacking in music and dialogue clarity. Having a Sony TV making me inclined for another Sony devices but the Samsung is more future proof. It also cheaper to buy the surround speaker kit if I want to transform it to 5.1.
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There has to be WiFi capability. Otherwise how does the wireless subwoofer sync with the soundbar, and how the app controls the soundbar ?

The difference between the q600a and q600b should be minor.
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post Jun 5 2022, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 5 2022, 04:32 PM)
There has to be WiFi capability. Otherwise how does the wireless subwoofer sync with the soundbar, and how the app controls the soundbar ?

The difference between the q600a and q600b should be minor.
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post Jun 9 2022, 04:00 PM

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Anyone use a soundbar around 1.5 k with dolby atmos in living hall for terrace house ? How is the experience ? Any good ?
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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 9 2022, 04:00 PM)
Anyone use a soundbar around 1.5 k with dolby atmos  in living hall for terrace house ? How is the experience ? Any good ?
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https://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...-htb600gak.html
not sure about the experience.
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post Jun 9 2022, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(ck77 @ Jun 9 2022, 04:05 PM)
Thanks.

There are actual quite a few different vendor products in that price range ( Samsung, Sony, Panasonic etc ). I am trying to find out if any of them is adequate for a basic experience.

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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 9 2022, 05:37 PM)
Thanks.

There are actual quite a few different vendor products in that price range ( Samsung, Sony, Panasonic etc ). I am trying to find out if any of them is adequate for a basic experience.
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Get Samsung or LG because they got option to add rear speakers for better experience.
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post Jun 9 2022, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(ck77 @ Jun 9 2022, 05:51 PM)
Get Samsung or LG because they got option to add rear speakers for better experience.
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I realized the rear speakers will make the living room very messy, as behind the sofa seats is not the partition wall, it is the entrance walk way.

If I insist on putting rear speakers right behind the sofa seats, I will have to put them on stand and there will be wiring running around ( power cable for example ). Or I put the rear speakers at the wall, but it will be much further from the sofa seats .....
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post Jun 9 2022, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 9 2022, 06:27 PM)
I realized the rear speakers will make the living room very messy, as behind the sofa seats is not the partition wall, it is the entrance walk way.

If I insist on putting rear speakers right behind the sofa seats, I will have to put them on stand and there will be wiring running around ( power cable for example ). Or I put the rear speakers at the wall, but it will be much further from the sofa seats .....
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I thought rear speakers by right should be placed somewhere further from the sofa seats … like this? No?

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post Jun 10 2022, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(xxxgkssixxx @ Jun 9 2022, 06:50 PM)
I thought rear speakers by right should be placed somewhere further from the sofa seats … like this? No?

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for full atmos effect then yes. as you can see from the picture, the rear speakers has front and up firing drivers. the sound from upfiring one needs to be bounced off from the ceiling. if the rear speakers sit very close to you, you won't hear the back and above sounds, instead it will end up in the center.
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post Jun 27 2022, 02:57 PM

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Hi
Anyone have started to use the Samsung Q930B soundbar?
Any feedback and comments on the product.is appreciated..
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post Jun 27 2022, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(fufu_80 @ Jun 27 2022, 02:57 PM)
Hi
Anyone have started to use the Samsung Q930B soundbar?
Any feedback and comments on the product.is appreciated..
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also curious for the latest Q990b - apart from the number of speakers (9 vs 11), any other big difference eg like power/wattage? currently thinking of Q990b but if Q930b gives practically the same features + power, with only difference being number of channels, then perhaps no need to fork out another 1k+ for Q990b since my living area not big...
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post Jun 28 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 9 2022, 06:27 PM)
I realized the rear speakers will make the living room very messy, as behind the sofa seats is not the partition wall, it is the entrance walk way.

If I insist on putting rear speakers right behind the sofa seats, I will have to put them on stand and there will be wiring running around ( power cable for example ). Or I put the rear speakers at the wall, but it will be much further from the sofa seats .....
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Ya, i had the similar issue too. Plus I don't have power plug behind my sofa, so is kind of hard to use rear speaker.

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post Jun 28 2022, 09:34 PM

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For q990b rear speaker, should install at ear level? Or 2 feet above?
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post Jun 29 2022, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(swatch10 @ Jun 28 2022, 10:29 AM)
Ya, i had the similar issue too. Plus I don't have power plug behind my sofa, so is kind of hard to use rear speaker.
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Yeah we have the same problem. We have to put the rear speakers much further away against the wall then.

By right if the rear speakers are strong enough, it can actually form better the surround effects when the sofa is somewhat in the middle between front soundbar and rear speakers. Rear speakers are not to be too closed to the audience.

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