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post Apr 19 2019, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 19 2019, 07:36 PM)
Haa really ? So far i play netflix i can see 5.1 stated on title.
When check tv sound setting it automatically detects dolby digital, but for digital+ its saying need arc hdmi..

For the astro hd channels which dolby audio movies , got to enable audio setting in decoder. Change to digital5.1 so tv can detect.
That means my tv not capable of supporting dolby atmos so that is why i do not see any netflix title with dolbyatmos ?

Any movie which in dolbyatmos that you can see in your netflix app, so i can check in mine whether got any dolbyatmos sign or

Ya none below shown dolbyatmos sign at title just 5.1

Okja (Dolby Atmos)
Blame! (Dolby Atmos)
Death Note (Dolby Atmos)
Wheelman (Dolby Atmos)
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To get netflix atmos audio, u must have:
.. tv is atmos capable and correct connection made... check yr tv specs.
.. home theater or sound bar must be atmos capable, setup ready for it.

If either is missing, u get dolby 5.1, that's it.
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post Apr 19 2019, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Apr 19 2019, 10:08 PM)
To get netflix atmos audio, u must have:
.. tv is atmos capable and correct connection made... check yr tv specs.
.. home theater or sound bar must be atmos capable, setup ready for it.

If either is missing, u get dolby 5.1, that's it.
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ahhh too bad.. NU8000 not atmos supported, tv spec just says Dolby supported. dolby digital & digital+ (surround)
is LGSK9Y compatible to this TV, as i read having issue for ARC ?


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post Apr 19 2019, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 19 2019, 10:27 PM)
ahhh too bad.. NU8000 not atmos supported, tv spec just says Dolby supported. dolby digital & digital+ (surround)
is LGSK9Y compatible to this TV, as i read having issue for ARC ?
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If tv has dd, dd+, u can get those with netflix if correct connections to capable sound system.
For dts with other apps, likely get just 2.0 or simulated 2.1.

I do not know about that lg soundbar.
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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 19 2019, 07:36 PM)
Haa really ? So far i play netflix i can see 5.1 stated on title.
When check tv sound setting it automatically detects dolby digital, but for digital+ its saying need arc hdmi..

For the astro hd channels which dolby audio movies , got to enable audio setting in decoder. Change to digital5.1 so tv can detect.
That means my tv not capable of supporting dolby atmos so that is why i do not see any netflix title with dolbyatmos ?
Any movie which in dolbyatmos that you can see in your netflix app, so i can check in mine whether got any dolbyatmos sign or not..
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Ya none below shown dolbyatmos sign at title just 5.1

Okja (Dolby Atmos)
Blame! (Dolby Atmos)
Death Note (Dolby Atmos)
Wheelman (Dolby Atmos)
Another thing i read somewhere, LGSK9Y has trouble to detect ARC for samsung NU8000.
Just had plan of buying LGSK9Y, Now in dilemma of brand compatibility issue
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Your TV not support Dolby Atmos, actually most TV not support Dolby Atmos.

I had check the 1st one Okja and that title is Dolby Atmos title and you are correct it won't show you Dolby Atmos as label if they is no Dolby Atmos support in your system.

You can ask the shop test connection LG SK9Y with Samsung NU8000 to confirm working or not. No one can answer you this unless they is a person have NU8000 + LG SK9Y.
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QUOTE(happyhaka @ Apr 19 2019, 09:11 PM)
I see. Well Im using a Sharp model 6800x. I checked specs and it says it has dolby decoder. Though it doesnt specify which dolby decoder specifically. Like if it is just dolby digital or what not. Do you have any idea how can I dig more into that?
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Most TV not support Dolby Atmos. From https://my.sharp/products/tvav/lc60ua6800x mentioned Dolby Audio which normally is Dolby Digital, if the TV support Dolby Atmos, I believe it will get big advertise about it.

From Netflix website, it mentioned following is support Dolby Atmos.
  • Apple TV 4K (requires tvOS 12 or later) <-- I am using this, I can confirmed the Neflix app inside this TV Box support Dolby Atmos.
  • LG OLED TVs (2017 or newer models)
  • Panasonic TVs (2019 or newer models) <-- My model is 2018 and I also can confirmed my TV Netflix not support Dolby Atmos.
  • Pixela 4K Smart Tuner
  • Roku TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Sony BRAVIA Android TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Toshiba TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Vizio TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Windows 10 computer or tablet (requires Windows 10 RS3 Build 16299 or later)
  • Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/64066

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 19 2019, 11:08 PM
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post Apr 20 2019, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 19 2019, 10:38 PM)
Your TV not support Dolby Atmos, actually most TV not support Dolby Atmos.

I had check the 1st one Okja and that title is Dolby Atmos title and you are correct it won't show you Dolby Atmos as label if they is no Dolby Atmos support in your system.

You can ask the shop test connection LG SK9Y with Samsung NU8000 to confirm working or not. No one can answer you this unless they is a person have NU8000 + LG SK9Y.
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aishh.. i should have got this ARC information earlier so that i could have tested LG SK9Y with NU8000 at harvey norman.. since they have demo units.

so even if i connect tv to soundbar which supports dolby atmos, i still would not be able to hear atmos since my tv not supports ?
what if i play netflix from android box which supports atmos, plug straight to atmos soundbar , then to TV... is it works ?


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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 20 2019, 12:55 AM)
aishh.. i should have got this ARC information earlier so that i could have tested LG SK9Y with NU8000 at harvey norman.. since they have demo units.

so even if i connect tv to soundbar which supports dolby atmos, i still would not be able to hear atmos since my tv not supports ?
what if i play netflix from android box which supports atmos, plug straight to atmos soundbar , then to TV... is it works ?
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To get Dolby Atmos in Netflix, you need either of following.

1) TV with Dolby Atmos support + Dolby Atmos Soundbar.
2) TV without Dolby Atmos support but with TV Box that support Dolby Atmos (currently only Apple TV 4K support) + HDMI in at Dolby Atmos Soundbar.
3) TV without Dolby Atmos support but with gamer device support Dolby Atmos (currently only Xbox support) + HDMI in at Dolby Atmos Soundbar.

They is no Android TV Box support Netflix in Dolby Atmos included Nvidia Shield even though Nvidia Shield can support Dolby Atmos in others apps but not in Netflix apps because Netflix not support it, not because Android TV OS not capable.

So you only have 3 options now for Netflix in Dolby Atmos
1) Buy Apple TV 4K
2) Buy Xbox
3) Buy New TV

* I exclude Pixela 4K Smart Tuner because that box is Japan country tuner box even though this box is running Android TV OS but I doubt you can get it or fully utilize it, the tuner part sure won't work but others apps in Android TV possible can but cannot guarantee if they set country specific.

Or don't buy anything now, wait for eARC, off course you need to get a new TV and also Soundbar using eARC that required HDMI 2.1 tongue.gif
With eARC, they is no compromise of sound output as it is big enough bandwidth to pass thru Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD even you connect your device to TV and later to SoundBar. For the moment the reason why device need connect to soundbar HDMI-IN instead of TV is due to bandwidth issue at HDMI 2.0, I read further TV Dolby Atmos support is compress version of Dolby Digital Plus instead of Dolby TrueHD. Anyway Netflix is only running compress version of Dolby Atmos in Dolby Digital Plus not Dolby TrueHD.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 20 2019, 01:58 AM
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post Apr 20 2019, 08:03 AM

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Thanks for the response! Saw that you went for SK9. Have you also tried SK8? On paper it's on par with the Sony CT800

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 19 2019, 10:43 PM)
Most TV not support Dolby Atmos. From https://my.sharp/products/tvav/lc60ua6800x mentioned Dolby Audio which normally is Dolby Digital, if the TV support Dolby Atmos, I believe it will get big advertise about it.

From Netflix website, it mentioned following is support Dolby Atmos.

  • Apple TV 4K (requires tvOS 12 or later) <-- I am using this, I can confirmed the Neflix app inside this TV Box support Dolby Atmos.
  • LG OLED TVs (2017 or newer models)
  • Panasonic TVs (2019 or newer models) <-- My model is 2018 and I also can confirmed my TV Netflix not support Dolby Atmos.
  • Pixela 4K Smart Tuner
  • Roku TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Sony BRAVIA Android TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Toshiba TVs (2019 or newer models)
  • Vizio TVs (2018 or newer models)
  • Windows 10 computer or tablet (requires Windows 10 RS3 Build 16299 or later)
  • Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/64066
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post Apr 20 2019, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 20 2019, 01:08 AM)
To get Dolby Atmos in Netflix, you need either of following.

1) TV with Dolby Atmos support + Dolby Atmos Soundbar.
2) TV without Dolby Atmos support but with TV Box that support Dolby Atmos (currently only Apple TV 4K support) + HDMI in at Dolby Atmos Soundbar.
3) TV without Dolby Atmos support but with gamer device support Dolby Atmos (currently only Xbox support) + HDMI in at Dolby Atmos Soundbar.

They is no Android TV Box support Netflix in Dolby Atmos included Nvidia Shield even though Nvidia Shield can support Dolby Atmos in others apps but not in Netflix apps because Netflix not support it, not because Android TV OS not capable.

So you only have 3 options now for Netflix in Dolby Atmos

1) Buy Apple TV 4K
2) Buy Xbox
3) Buy New TV


* I exclude Pixela 4K Smart Tuner because that box is Japan country tuner box even though this box is running Android TV OS but I doubt you can get it or fully utilize it, the tuner part sure won't work but others apps in Android TV possible can but cannot guarantee if they set country specific.

Or don't buy anything now, wait for eARC, off course you need to get a new TV and also Soundbar using eARC that required HDMI 2.1 tongue.gif
With eARC, they is no compromise of sound output as it is big enough bandwidth to pass thru Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD even you connect your device to TV and later to SoundBar. For the moment the reason why device need connect to soundbar HDMI-IN instead of TV is due to bandwidth issue at HDMI 2.0, I read further TV Dolby Atmos support is compress version of Dolby Digital Plus instead of Dolby TrueHD. Anyway Netflix is only running compress version of Dolby Atmos in Dolby Digital Plus not Dolby TrueHD.
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Still got other options, use a Windows 10 HTPC or laptop. If already have one, no need to spend any more money.



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post Apr 20 2019, 10:10 AM

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I remember a few salesperson told me ARC mostly doesn't work , told me to use optical cable instead for soundbars

and it happen to my case as well, all my ARC doesn't work, end of the day, its because of the HDMI cable, get the correct spec one, all workable

a lot 3rd party hdmi cable state 2.0 or 1.4, mostly fake I think, non ARC workable
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 20 2019, 01:08 AM)
To get Dolby Atmos in Netflix, you need either of following.

1) TV with Dolby Atmos support + Dolby Atmos Soundbar.
2) TV without Dolby Atmos support but with TV Box that support Dolby Atmos (currently only Apple TV 4K support) + HDMI in at Dolby Atmos Soundbar.
3) TV without Dolby Atmos support but with gamer device support Dolby Atmos (currently only Xbox support) + HDMI in at Dolby Atmos Soundbar.

They is no Android TV Box support Netflix in Dolby Atmos included Nvidia Shield even though Nvidia Shield can support Dolby Atmos in others apps but not in Netflix apps because Netflix not support it, not because Android TV OS not capable.

So you only have 3 options now for Netflix in Dolby Atmos
1) Buy Apple TV 4K
2) Buy Xbox
3) Buy New TV

* I exclude Pixela 4K Smart Tuner because that box is Japan country tuner box even though this box is running Android TV OS but I doubt you can get it or fully utilize it, the tuner part sure won't work but others apps in Android TV possible can but cannot guarantee if they set country specific.

Or don't buy anything now, wait for eARC, off course you need to get a new TV and also Soundbar using eARC that required HDMI 2.1 tongue.gif
With eARC, they is no compromise of sound output as it is big enough bandwidth to pass thru Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD even you connect your device to TV and later to SoundBar. For the moment the reason why device need connect to soundbar HDMI-IN instead of TV is due to bandwidth issue at HDMI 2.0, I read further TV Dolby Atmos support is compress version of Dolby Digital Plus instead of Dolby TrueHD. Anyway Netflix is only running compress version of Dolby Atmos in Dolby Digital Plus not Dolby TrueHD.
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Aduiii sakit kepala la fikir fikir fikir.. ARC eARC DOLBY...
Thanks for the brief explanation brother..
Feel like not getting anything just sit watch whatever default..


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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 20 2019, 10:10 AM)
I remember a few salesperson told me ARC mostly doesn't work , told me to use optical cable instead for soundbars

and it happen to my case as well, all my ARC doesn't work, end of the day, its because of the HDMI cable, get the correct spec one, all workable

a lot 3rd party hdmi cable state 2.0 or 1.4, mostly fake I think, non ARC workable
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Oh really ? What model sound bar and tv you connected through arc bro..
U mean all source connect to tv, from tv to sound bar use digital optical cable..?
If all source go to soundbar then connect to tv via optical ?
Certain things not pass through optical right..
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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 20 2019, 11:28 AM)
Oh really ? What model sound bar and tv you connected through arc bro..
U mean all source connect to tv, from tv to sound bar use digital optical cable..?
If all source go to soundbar then connect to tv via optical ?
Certain things not pass through optical right..
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samsung tv to sony SB
optical will only do legacy DD n DTS thats all
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QUOTE(happyhaka @ Apr 20 2019, 08:03 AM)
Thanks for the response! Saw that you went for SK9. Have you also tried SK8? On paper it's on par with the Sony CT800
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SK8 sound not good, the sound a bit break in SK8. SK8 only have 3 speakers (2x Front and 1x Sub) but SK9 got 8 speakers (2x Front, 1x Center, 2x Side Surround, 2x Up Firing, 1x Sub). It is difference. As for Sony CT800, sorry I didn't test it, no idea.

QUOTE(skyforcerld @ Apr 20 2019, 09:47 AM)
Still got other options, use a Windows 10 HTPC or laptop. If already have one, no need to spend any more money.
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Haha! tongue.gif

QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 20 2019, 10:10 AM)
I remember a few salesperson told me ARC mostly doesn't work , told me to use optical cable instead for soundbars

and it happen to my case as well, all my ARC doesn't work, end of the day, its because of the HDMI cable, get the correct spec one, all workable

a lot 3rd party hdmi cable state 2.0 or 1.4, mostly fake I think, non ARC workable
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Ya, ARC required high speed 18Gbps HDMI cable, else it keep failing. I face it also as I left only a normal speed cable that time and it is not working at all. So I change to high speed one and all settle.

QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 20 2019, 11:06 AM)
Aduiii sakit kepala la fikir fikir fikir.. ARC eARC DOLBY...
Thanks for the brief explanation brother..
Feel like not getting anything just sit watch whatever default..
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Haha!

QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 20 2019, 11:28 AM)
Oh really ? What model sound bar and tv you connected through arc bro..
U mean all source connect to tv, from tv to sound bar use digital optical cable..?
If all source go to soundbar then connect to tv via optical ?
Certain things not pass through optical right..
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Optical cable don't give you Dolby Atmos, Dolby Atmos only can pass thru HDMI cable, others all won't work. Optical only do normal DD and DTS.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 20 2019, 12:32 PM
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@andrew so many advert as high speed, all tipu

I have so many cables lying ard in house now, all not capable of ARC, really waste of time n money
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 20 2019, 12:33 PM)
@andrew so many advert as high speed, all tipu

I have so many cables lying ard in house now, all not capable of ARC, really waste of time n money
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Yup, true, that why I don't go for lousy cheap one as not only ARC required, 4K HDR in Full RGB also required it.

So far my current 3 high speed 18Gbps cable is working well, one from Panasonic 4K UHD blu-ray player bundle, one is Belkin brand, last one is Prostar.
But I do waste 2 previously, one is unknown brand and it don't work at all, another is bundle by Xiaomi Mi Box, broken after some times.
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 20 2019, 10:10 AM)
I remember a few salesperson told me ARC mostly doesn't work , told me to use optical cable instead for soundbars

and it happen to my case as well, all my ARC doesn't work, end of the day, its because of the HDMI cable, get the correct spec one, all workable

a lot 3rd party hdmi cable state 2.0 or 1.4, mostly fake I think, non ARC workable
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That is not true. As long you have High speed HDMI cable with Ethernet, it is fine. Most cables today are capable of it. There is no such thing as HDMI 2.0 or 1.4 cable its just marketing talk. The HDMI version refers to the device itself. I recommend you to buy UGREEN HDMI cables from Lazada from the official UGREEN Shop. UGREEN sells high quality stuff at great prices. Dont be con into expensive cables at Harvey Norman and such.

The reason ARC fails is there is no proper implementation by all the manufacturers. There is stronger push for eARC. So in future equipments with eARC should work better with each other. One big problem i encountered with HDMI ARC today is the audio delay...unless your TV has some options to delay the video to sync with the audio, it will be a problem.

Basically best solution is still TV streamer/player box to AVR/soundbar then to TV. It is the best bet.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 20 2019, 12:26 PM)
SK8 sound not good, the sound a bit break in SK8. SK8 only have 3 speakers (2x Front and 1x Sub) but SK9 got 8 speakers (2x Front, 1x Center, 2x Side Surround, 2x Up Firing, 1x Sub). It is difference. As for Sony CT800, sorry I didn't test it, no idea.
Haha! tongue.gif
Ya, ARC required high speed 18Gbps HDMI cable, else it keep failing. I face it also as I left only a normal speed cable that time and it is not working at all. So I change to high speed one and all settle.
Haha!

Optical cable don't give you Dolby Atmos, Dolby Atmos only can pass thru HDMI cable, others all won't work. Optical only do normal DD and DTS.
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Today i went to harverynorman.. so i asked the sales person to test LGSK9 connect to nu8000 demo tv. 1 person wanted to test. Another person stopped him wanted to know why ? So i claimed i worry if ARC doesn't works between.
3rd person suggested to use optical cable instead of arc. I claimed there is some restriction.
Then they claimed yes will have problem with ARC why not just get samsung sound bar should be compatible..

I condemn samsung tv sound system itself sucks, soundbar i have no confident.
Another person challenged me do you know who build sound system for samsung is "harmon kardon" own by them.
He showed me one of the samsung sound bar which written "samsung harmonkardon" top of it..

they want ppl use additional sound system ofcoz will not design highend in tv, business factor.


Then i had no choice went to check other bars again . now diff sales person.. he suggested to get YAS207.. tested side to side. with sony 9000F...
Ofcos YAS207 tremendous i agree.. this plug and play no settings needed..
He claimed 100% sure YAMAHA and SONY ARC works but LG not. YAMAHA is true dolby they just wanted to enter market with first dts surround sound bar to kill other brands. High selling model according to him.
He asked better dont get SK9Y.. if not much source connecting to sound bar then 1 hdmi in enough..
According to him he did fix soundbars at customer house and arc not detected so use optical..

None of them talked about high speed ethernet HDMI ARC issue.. damn it..

I think you guys should be sales person there to explain customer in detail..hahaha

Which brand hdmi is advisable brothers, i personally have 3. The last i bought is kameha brand..

This post has been edited by GHOSTVIC: Apr 20 2019, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 20 2019, 07:59 PM)
Today i went to harverynorman.. so i asked the sales person to test LGSK9 connect to nu8000 demo tv. 1 person wanted to test. Another person stopped him wanted to know why ? So i claimed i worry if ARC doesn't works between.
3rd person suggested to use optical cable instead of arc. I claimed there is some restriction.
Then they claimed yes will have problem with ARC why not just get samsung sound bar should be compatible..

I condemn samsung tv sound system itself sucks, soundbar i have no confident.
Another person challenged me do you know who build sound system for samsung is "harmon kardon" own by them.
He showed me one of the samsung sound bar which written "samsung harmonkardon" top of it..

they want ppl use additional sound system ofcoz will not design highend in tv, business factor.
Then i had no choice went to check other bars again . now diff sales person.. he suggested to get YAS207.. tested side to side. with sony 9000F...
Ofcos YAS207 tremendous i agree.. this plug and play no settings needed..
He claimed 100% sure YAMAHA and SONY ARC works but LG not. YAMAHA is true dolby they just wanted to enter market with first dts surround sound bar to kill other brands. High selling model according to him.
He asked better dont get SK9Y.. if not much source connecting to sound bar then 1 hdmi in enough..
According to him he did fix soundbars at customer house and arc not detected so use optical..

None of them talked about high speed ethernet HDMI ARC issue.. damn it..

I think you guys should be sales person there to explain customer in detail..hahaha

Which brand hdmi is advisable brothers, i personally have 3. The last i bought is kameha brand..
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The first shop telling you the truth. One of the highest end soundbar by Samsung is design with Harmon kardon. This model is rate No.2 best soundbar for year 2019 by reviewer and it support everything include DTS-X. Too bad it cost too much. This model is RM 4.5K

https://www.samsung.com/my/audio-video/hw-n950/

No.1 best soundbar for year 2019 by reviewer is Bose Soundbar 700 which cost RM 3.7k the bar itself without the sub-woofer and even though it not even support Dolby Atmos but it get the best sound quality.

Yamaha always good in sound, this brand should nothing much to worried.

LG wise I read from internet, earlier firmware when just release got connection issue but in latest no issue. So far it working in my Panasonic TV. But got issue in Samsung TV or not, I not sure.

What brand HDMI good, I not really brand specific, as long it work, but I find Berlin very good build quality. Any high speed HDMI with ethernet in 18Gbps bandwidth will run fine.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Apr 20 2019, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 20 2019, 07:59 PM)
Today i went to harverynorman.. so i asked the sales person to test LGSK9 connect to nu8000 demo tv. 1 person wanted to test. Another person stopped him wanted to know why ? So i claimed i worry if ARC doesn't works between.
3rd person suggested to use optical cable instead of arc. I claimed there is some restriction.
Then they claimed yes will have problem with ARC why not just get samsung sound bar should be compatible..

I condemn samsung tv sound system itself sucks, soundbar i have no confident.
Another person challenged me do you know who build sound system for samsung is "harmon kardon" own by them.
He showed me one of the samsung sound bar which written "samsung harmonkardon" top of it..

they want ppl use additional sound system ofcoz will not design highend in tv, business factor.
Then i had no choice went to check other bars again . now diff sales person.. he suggested to get YAS207.. tested side to side. with sony 9000F...
Ofcos YAS207 tremendous i agree.. this plug and play no settings needed..
He claimed 100% sure YAMAHA and SONY ARC works but LG not. YAMAHA is true dolby they just wanted to enter market with first dts surround sound bar to kill other brands. High selling model according to him.
He asked better dont get SK9Y.. if not much source connecting to sound bar then 1 hdmi in enough..
According to him he did fix soundbars at customer house and arc not detected so use optical..

None of them talked about high speed ethernet HDMI ARC issue.. damn it..

I think you guys should be sales person there to explain customer in detail..hahaha

Which brand hdmi is advisable brothers, i personally have 3. The last i bought is kameha brand..
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In my experience, most TV and speakers salesmen in places like Harvey Norman, Best Denki etc, have no idea what they are talking about other than trying to sell you stuff. Lol.


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