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post Apr 18 2019, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 18 2019, 02:58 PM)
Not many title in DTS:X, mostly still is Dolby Atmos.

Actually not that important as long the output is awesome.
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My mistake, i meant DTS: Virtual X, which is supposely can be apply to any audio stream, no need special encoding.

Dolby Atmos titles not that many in Netflix also currently, but in future should increase.

This post has been edited by skyforcerld: Apr 18 2019, 03:00 PM
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post Apr 18 2019, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ Apr 18 2019, 03:00 PM)
My mistake, i meant DTS: Virtual X, which is supposely can be apply to any audio stream, no need special encoding.

Dolby Atmos titles not that many in Netflix also currently, but in future should increase.
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Oh ok.

Netflix and iTunes Dolby Atmos title is no way to compare to actual Dolby Atmos title from 4K UHD blu-ray because it is compress version, Stream version from Netflix and iTunes is Dolby Digital Plus with Dolby Atmos.

I had test same title and it is big differences. I don't said Netflix and iTunes are bad but once you compare then you know they is differences there.
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post Apr 18 2019, 03:18 PM

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dear sifus,

any recommended soundbar below 1k? mostly i use for movies and ps4.
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post Apr 18 2019, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Milano7 @ Apr 18 2019, 03:18 PM)
dear sifus,

any recommended soundbar below 1k? mostly i use for movies and ps4.
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Yamaha YAS-108

RM 999. Ngam-ngam, got RM 1 change.

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/yamaha-y...YqVINU&search=1

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Seems like got good review...first page shows constant > 4/5 ratings.

https://www.google.com/search?q=yas+108+rev...chrome&ie=UTF-8

This post has been edited by skyforcerld: Apr 18 2019, 03:48 PM
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post Apr 18 2019, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ Apr 17 2019, 04:37 PM)
Yeah, i think only Yamaha has such options, but then only a few specific models.

Btw, i read up on DTS:X on the YAS-207.

https://www.techhive.com/article/3244136/ya...207-review.html

This DTS:X really that good? Like these i can ignore Dolby Atmos already.

Most importantly in the review:
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I noticed quite a noticeable difference when I watched Gladiator with DTS:X on and off. The sense of surround and space is more enveloping compared to without. But yea, very few titles have DTS:X lol

But YAS207 DTS:X can't be compared to true Atmos system... one is virtual the other is not..

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post Apr 18 2019, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 18 2019, 03:41 PM)
I noticed quite a noticeable difference when I watched Gladiator with DTS:X on and off. The sense of surround and space is more enveloping compared to without. But yea, very few titles have DTS:X lol

But YAS207 DTS:X can't be compared to true Atmos system... one is virtual the other is not..
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My mistake again, i was talking DTS: Virtual X. Yeah, i know it won't be comparable to a true Atmos system. But that is not my intention. My intention:

1. Streamline to soundbar, minimalistic, get rid of AVR and Twin Tower fugly speakers and fugly centre speaker (already gotten rid, no choice)....my AVR running on 2.0/2.1 now.

2. Audio no need keng. I have no mood to make overhead speakers or rear speakers. Already got rid of rear speakers sometime ago.

3. Gave up on Dolby Atmos. Maybe next time when it becomes common, then i upgrade to another better soundbar.

4. As long got pseudolistic surround sound, clear dialogue and looks neat is the main objective.


Another issue i have currently is dialogue from my AVR seems a bit soft, if turn on loud, the special effect suddenly like earthquake, waifu complain. I hope the soundbar can solve this problem? hmm.gif

I am very drawn to the YAS-108 now, seems like good choice, very good price, solve some of my problems, without introducing a new one (subwoofer which i don't need...).

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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ Apr 18 2019, 03:55 PM)
4. As long got pseudolistic surround sound, clear dialogue and looks neat is the main objective.
Another issue i have currently is dialogue from my AVR seems a bit soft, if turn on loud, the special effect suddenly like earthquake, waifu complain. I hope the soundbar can solve this problem? hmm.gif
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I think you need to have 2.0 soundbar or 5.0 soundbar, any good soundbar with .1 (sub-woofer) can make neighbor complain. Haha!
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post Apr 18 2019, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ Apr 18 2019, 03:55 PM)
My mistake again, i was talking DTS: Virtual X. Yeah, i know it won't be comparable to a true Atmos system. But that is not my intention. My intention:

1. Streamline to soundbar, minimalistic, get rid of AVR and Twin Tower fugly speakers and fugly centre speaker (already gotten rid, no choice)....my AVR running on 2.0/2.1 now.

2. Audio no need keng. I have no mood to make overhead speakers or rear speakers. Already got rid of rear speakers sometime ago.

3. Gave up on Dolby Atmos. Maybe next time when it becomes common, then i upgrade to another better soundbar.

4. As long got pseudolistic surround sound, clear dialogue and looks neat is the main objective.
Another issue i have currently is dialogue from my AVR seems a bit soft, if turn on loud, the special effect suddenly like earthquake, waifu complain. I hope the soundbar can solve this problem? hmm.gif

I am very drawn to the YAS-108 now, seems like good choice, very good price, solve some of my problems, without introducing a new one (subwoofer which i don't need...).
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turn on your avr dynamic range control…or night mode
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post Apr 18 2019, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Apr 18 2019, 07:03 PM)
turn on your avr dynamic range control…or night mode
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Thanks! It worked!

Default is "Max", can set to Min/Auto and its very quiet, set to Standard and i can hear a bit difference. But "MAX" just go bonkers.

For time being i am setting it to "Standard".
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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ Apr 18 2019, 10:39 PM)
Thanks! It worked!

Default is "Max", can set to Min/Auto and its very quiet, set to Standard and i can hear a bit difference. But "MAX" just go bonkers.

For time being i am setting it to "Standard".
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some avr even have dialogue enhance option, i guess is some sort of eq setting or sound mode setting.
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post Apr 19 2019, 08:20 AM

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Been looking at soundbars with about 2k budget. In my multiple store visits for some reason

Sony CT800 seems to sound better than HT Z9F

For similar pricepoints SK9 sounds better than Z9F

In this case then I find it a battle between CT800 and SK9 whereby both of then are at very diff pricepoints 1.2k and 2k respectively.

I wantes SK9 or Z9F since my main purpose is surround sound from my TV that has netflix and connected directly to the soundbar. Thought Atmos on both would sound better than CT800 only on dolby digital. What are your thoughts?
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QUOTE(happyhaka @ Apr 19 2019, 08:20 AM)
Been looking at soundbars with about 2k budget. In my multiple store visits for some reason

Sony CT800 seems to sound better than HT Z9F

For similar pricepoints SK9 sounds better than Z9F

In this case then I find it a battle between CT800 and SK9 whereby both of then are at very diff pricepoints 1.2k and 2k respectively.

I wantes SK9 or Z9F since my main purpose is surround sound from my TV that has netflix and connected directly to the soundbar. Thought Atmos on both would sound better than CT800 only on dolby digital. What are your thoughts?
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QUOTE(happyhaka @ Apr 19 2019, 08:20 AM)
Been looking at soundbars with about 2k budget. In my multiple store visits for some reason

Sony CT800 seems to sound better than HT Z9F

For similar pricepoints SK9 sounds better than Z9F

In this case then I find it a battle between CT800 and SK9 whereby both of then are at very diff pricepoints 1.2k and 2k respectively.

I wantes SK9 or Z9F since my main purpose is surround sound from my TV that has netflix and connected directly to the soundbar. Thought Atmos on both would sound better than CT800 only on dolby digital. What are your thoughts?
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Is your TV Netflix support Dolby Atmos as it depends on the playback device as well.

If your TV Netflix not support Dolby Atmos then you won't get Dolby Atmos output even though the Soundbar support it.

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QUOTE(happyhaka @ Apr 19 2019, 08:20 AM)
Been looking at soundbars with about 2k budget. In my multiple store visits for some reason

Sony CT800 seems to sound better than HT Z9F

For similar pricepoints SK9 sounds better than Z9F

In this case then I find it a battle between CT800 and SK9 whereby both of then are at very diff pricepoints 1.2k and 2k respectively.

I wantes SK9 or Z9F since my main purpose is surround sound from my TV that has netflix and connected directly to the soundbar. Thought Atmos on both would sound better than CT800 only on dolby digital. What are your thoughts?
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If you are considering CT800 also take a look at YAS-207. I listened to them side by side and chose YAS-207 instead though your preference may vary.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 19 2019, 11:50 AM)
If you are considering CT800 also take a look at YAS-207. I listened to them side by side and chose YAS-207 instead though your preference may vary.
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I took ct800 for the extra hdmi inputs

but frankly, the ct800 sucks big time when its new, really need to run in, then sound better
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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 19 2019, 12:50 PM)
I took ct800 for the extra hdmi inputs

but frankly, the ct800 sucks big time when its new, really need to run in, then sound better
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Yes downside for YAS-207 is only a single HDMI output...
I listened to both side by side on demo units which have been running for hours everyday for months. So they are very well burned in.
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 19 2019, 11:50 AM)
If you are considering CT800 also take a look at YAS-207. I listened to them side by side and chose YAS-207 instead though your preference may vary.
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Bro, you owner of YAS-207? Have you compare it to the YAS-108 before? I am thinking about YAS-108. thks.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 19 2019, 10:56 AM)
Is your TV Netflix support Dolby Atmos as it depends on the playback device as well.

If your TV Netflix not support Dolby Atmos then you won't get Dolby Atmos output even though the Soundbar support it.
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Haa really ? So far i play netflix i can see 5.1 stated on title.
When check tv sound setting it automatically detects dolby digital, but for digital+ its saying need arc hdmi..

For the astro hd channels which dolby audio movies , got to enable audio setting in decoder. Change to digital5.1 so tv can detect.
That means my tv not capable of supporting dolby atmos so that is why i do not see any netflix title with dolbyatmos ?
Any movie which in dolbyatmos that you can see in your netflix app, so i can check in mine whether got any dolbyatmos sign or not..



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Ya none below shown dolbyatmos sign at title just 5.1

Okja (Dolby Atmos)
Blame! (Dolby Atmos)
Death Note (Dolby Atmos)
Wheelman (Dolby Atmos)


Another thing i read somewhere, LGSK9Y has trouble to detect ARC for samsung NU8000.
Just had plan of buying LGSK9Y, Now in dilemma of brand compatibility issue


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post Apr 19 2019, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Apr 19 2019, 11:50 AM)
If you are considering CT800 also take a look at YAS-207. I listened to them side by side and chose YAS-207 instead though your preference may vary.
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Thanks for the input. Though I orefer if it's Chromecast ready since I have a google home assistant so that I can do commands.

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post Apr 19 2019, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Apr 19 2019, 10:56 AM)
Is your TV Netflix support Dolby Atmos as it depends on the playback device as well.

If your TV Netflix not support Dolby Atmos then you won't get Dolby Atmos output even though the Soundbar support it.
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I see. Well Im using a Sharp model 6800x. I checked specs and it says it has dolby decoder. Though it doesnt specify which dolby decoder specifically. Like if it is just dolby digital or what not. Do you have any idea how can I dig more into that?

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