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Andrewtst
post May 25 2018, 08:43 PM

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Any good value sound bar that have Dolby Atmos to recommended.
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post May 26 2018, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 25 2018, 09:43 PM)
What is good value to you? Cheapest Atmos so far I’ve seen is LG SJ9 at 3.2k, but whether it sounds good is another story.
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Thanks for the information. I am going to skip Dolby Atmos then.

My maximum spend only RM 1.5k
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post Jun 5 2018, 04:05 AM

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Now Soundbar with Dolby Atmos will be my main consideration since Apple TV 4K is going to have Dolby Atmos in the next tvOS 12 update. smile.gif

Apple TV 4K will be the only TV Box with Dolby Vision + Atmos soon. biggrin.gif
Even though I don't have either device support it now. Haha! Oops.tongue.gif

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https://www.macrumors.com/2018/06/04/apple-...-gaining-atmos/

QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ May 26 2018, 02:37 AM)
Oh wait, I forgot there is also Sony’s x9000f which supports Atmos, but it’s not a true Atmos but some DSP effect that virtually creates the height. Selling price around 2,199.
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will checking out this since it is Dolby Atmos support with nicer price.

QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 1 2018, 06:27 PM)
1.5k best mainsstream soundbar that can get conveniently is yamaha yas-207
Bose doesn't sound cheap to me.  biggrin.gif
RM250-300 maybe?
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Thanks a lot for all the information. smile.gif

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post Jun 5 2018, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Jun 5 2018, 10:24 AM)
IMO you might as well aim for proper Atmos since virtual Atmos is practically BS anyway.
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I put in my bedroom. A sound bar is sufficient to me. It is already a huge upgrade for me where now I only use TV speaker. Haha!
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post Jun 6 2018, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 5 2018, 10:23 PM)
atmos soundbar all looks so bulky...defeat the purpose being soundbar already...
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lol. Size doesn't matter. Sound matter. smile.gif

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post Jul 9 2018, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Jun 5 2018, 10:24 AM)
IMO you might as well aim for proper Atmos since virtual Atmos is practically BS anyway.
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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jun 5 2018, 10:23 PM)
atmos soundbar all looks so bulky...defeat the purpose being soundbar already...
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Just hook up my old 2.1 Bluetooth speaker. I think it is good enough for me now. Temporary not going to look any soundbar as good one still freaking expensive to me.

At least I am not using TV speaker already. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(yanjinowa @ Jul 9 2018, 07:10 PM)
Wow, you watching 4K HDR content and dont need surround sound.
I think i have to hold my purchase too, due to price point for decent soundbar is too much and classical sound sound system is not approved by FC.
I am using my Aego 2.1 to headphone out of TV.
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Haha. I do that very long already. tongue.gif Is time to change. Haha

Ya normal one not sound impressive, good one just way too expensive for now. On hold first. Hehe

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Jul 9 2018, 07:49 PM)
Congrats. I’m sure it’s a step up over the stock TV sound lol
You can get decent soundbar for around 1-1.5k if that price is ok.
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Yup. It is. I should do it earlier long ago. Wonder why I wait until today just did it. Oops.
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post Jul 10 2018, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jul 9 2018, 10:57 PM)
yea…sound bar price so ridiculous here. decent 1 LG SJ9 Atmos soundbar rm3.3k. but for that price i would rather buy yas 107 with klipsch 8inch sub. bass more important than surround for me…haha.

i settled with the cheapo samsung sound bar hw-k350 @ rm333

btw, you connect via bt? if normal bt sbc protocol gonna have 200ms delay.
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Yup connected via Bluetooth. So far I don't see delay on my Apple TV 4K and Mi Box. Both work ok and sound sync ok.

First thing I check was to confirm the mouth is follow the voice when they talk and they are very well sync. smile.gif

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post Jul 10 2018, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jul 10 2018, 01:15 AM)
200ms for talk lip sync is barely noticeable, but for audiophile 200ms delay in watching concert is unbearable…haha
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I am not audiophile, so no worried. Hehe
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post Jul 10 2018, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Jul 10 2018, 07:34 AM)
you are "videophile" tongue.gif
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Lol. Got such thing? tongue.gif
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post Mar 26 2019, 02:58 AM

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Finally took the plug and buy the soundbar. smile.gif LG SK9Y

Now need to buy a proper table. Current table a bit too small.

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post Mar 26 2019, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(anyme @ Mar 26 2019, 09:42 AM)
How much u bought this?
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RM 2097 at Harvey Norman. Promotion item for the moment in Harvey Norman. smile.gif

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post Mar 27 2019, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Mar 27 2019, 10:07 AM)
sk9y is the latest? 2k sounds like a super deal
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SK9Y is the latest, and the sound quality, price for within my budget. smile.gif Another higher model is SK10Y which RM 3.9K that is not within my budget.

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post Mar 31 2019, 08:25 PM

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My short review of LG SoundBar SK9Y - 5.1.2 ch Dolby Atmos® Sound Bar with Wi-Fi Technology. smile.gif 4.5 Star in overall.
  • Sound Quality - The sound quality is absolutely stunning with strong center vocal, deep bass & awesome sound separation surround. But all this only happen after you had proper setup. It actually sound bad in original out of the box setting, this probably also the reason why some said LG Sound Bar sound is not good as the original setting sound is too high treble, high pitch vocal, weak bass and the sub woofer is like not working at all.
  • My Sound Setting - They is few Sound Effect and I find the best is Standard with some tunes. Movies sound effect at beginning may let you feel more immersive but after a while you will notice it is messy sound and very noisy annoying, others sound effect is totally rubbish and unusable to me. After some fine tuning, following setting give me the best output.
    - Sound Effect: Standard
    - Night: Off
    - DRC: Off
    - Auto Volume On/Off: Off
    - Treble: -5
    - Bass: 5
    - Sub Woofer: 6
    - Center: 0
    - Overhead: 0
    - Rear: 5
    - Rear Speaker Output: Surround
  • Connectivity - I wonder who design HDMI ARC, after some Google I just known Dolby Atmos is not working if you connect your device directly to TV as most TV unable to produce Dolby Atmos even though your Sound Bar is capable and already connected to TV via HDMI ARC. I only manage to get Dolby Atmos working when I connect my device to Sound Bar HDMI IN, and this Sound Bar only have one HDMI IN which means it is a very cons options as most people have more than one device that produce Dolby Atmos. In my case, I already got two device that capable of output Dolby Atmos. I choose Apple TV 4K here as my 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray title is very little. Lucky this model is capable to output 4K HDR in RGB High or 4:4:4 which not degrade my visual output, else I am DOOM! They is one issue here as some mentioned in internet, you will sometimes face sound delay issue in 4K video when your device is directly connect to TV instead of the Sound Bar itself, I not sure is this the weakness of HDMI ARC or not as they is the option to let you adjust the AV sync issue. No sound delay issue if your device is directly connect to the Sound Bar HDMI IN.
  • Others - Thanks to this Sound Bar where also generate nice sound output for listening to music and you can easily cast over from your phone directly. Also thanks to have option to purchase actual Rear Speaker to make it 7.1.2 system. I may consider this option in the future.
In overall, I am very satisfied to this Sound Bar sound quality and also it current promotion price.

Tested movies
  • Arrival
  • Ready Player One
  • Blade Runner 2049
  • Bohemian Rhapsody
  • The Greatest Showman
  • Annihilation
  • Incredibles 2
  • The Lion King
  • Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
  • E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial


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post Apr 1 2019, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ Apr 1 2019, 10:49 AM)
Nice review. Maybe you want to consider a HDMI Switch for your soundbar due to multiple devices, but make sure gets one which support 4K@60hz and HDR.
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Hi. You got any recommendation on this HDMI switch. I really want one. smile.gif
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post Apr 1 2019, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ Apr 1 2019, 10:55 AM)
I havent have a 4K60hz switch...i only have a Ugreen HDMI switch but it is only 4k 30hz and no HDR. AFAIK, there is no Ugreen model which support 4k60hz HDR...

Ugreen is really reliable brand and good quality stuff. You will have to try your luck with some other brands for 4k60hz HDR switch on Lazada...i saw a few....around Rm60 i think....if it doesnt work just return it. Lazada has excellent return policy... you just print out label and send. No need to pay return postage at all. I have returned a few stuff b4 on Lazada.
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Oh ok. Then I will search around, because I need 4K HDR 60hz and support RGB High or 4.4.4 colour range.

They is obvious differences set RGB high in visual quality.
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post Apr 7 2019, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Mar 31 2019, 08:25 PM)
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My short review of LG SoundBar SK9Y - 5.1.2 ch Dolby Atmos® Sound Bar with Wi-Fi Technology. smile.gif 4.5 Star in overall.

  • Sound Quality - The sound quality is absolutely stunning with strong center vocal, deep bass & awesome sound separation surround. But all this only happen after you had proper setup. It actually sound bad in original out of the box setting, this probably also the reason why some said LG Sound Bar sound is not good as the original setting sound is too high treble, high pitch vocal, weak bass and the sub woofer is like not working at all.
  • My Sound Setting - They is few Sound Effect and I find the best is Standard with some tunes. Movies sound effect at beginning may let you feel more immersive but after a while you will notice it is messy sound and very noisy annoying, others sound effect is totally rubbish and unusable to me. After some fine tuning, following setting give me the best output.
    - Sound Effect: ASC (update on 7 April from standard)
    - Night: Off
    - DRC: Off
    - Auto Volume On/Off: Off
    - Treble: -5
    - Bass: 5
    - Sub Woofer: 6
    - Center: 0
    - Overhead: 0
    - Rear: 5
    - Rear Speaker Output: Surround

  • Connectivity - I wonder who design HDMI ARC, after some Google I just known Dolby Atmos is not working if you connect your device directly to TV as most TV unable to produce Dolby Atmos even though your Sound Bar is capable and already connected to TV via HDMI ARC. I only manage to get Dolby Atmos working when I connect my device to Sound Bar HDMI IN, and this Sound Bar only have one HDMI IN which means it is a very cons options as most people have more than one device that produce Dolby Atmos. In my case, I already got two device that capable of output Dolby Atmos. I choose Apple TV 4K here as my 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray title is very little. Lucky this model is capable to output 4K HDR in RGB High or 4:4:4 which not degrade my visual output, else I am DOOM! They is one issue here as some mentioned in internet, you will sometimes face sound delay issue in 4K video when your device is directly connect to TV instead of the Sound Bar itself, I not sure is this the weakness of HDMI ARC or not as they is the option to let you adjust the AV sync issue. No sound delay issue if your device is directly connect to the Sound Bar HDMI IN.
  • Others - Thanks to this Sound Bar where also generate nice sound output for listening to music and you can easily cast over from your phone directly. Also thanks to have option to purchase actual Rear Speaker to make it 7.1.2 system. I may consider this option in the future.
In overall, I am very satisfied to this Sound Bar sound quality and also it current promotion price.

Tested movies

  • Arrival
  • Ready Player One
  • Blade Runner 2049
  • Bohemian Rhapsody
  • The Greatest Showman
  • Annihilation
  • Incredibles 2
  • The Lion King
  • Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
  • E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial

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My short update on this sound bar. I just notice the ASC (adaptive sound control) actually well done. By using ASC it auto adjust sound by adapted to film type you watch.

I am using this now instead of standard.

I just test the 4K Blu-ray that is Dolby Atmos and the output is much better compare to if your connection make it not Dolby Atmos but up to 7.1 PCM. In Dolby Atmos had better immersive feel where it seems louder more on background sound to be more surround and make tiny sound more obvious. I believe this is due to LG did some special setting for Dolby Atmos as it will change to Dolby Atmos Sound setting where cannot change anything.

Maybe I should consider Nvidia Shield as Apple TV 4K did not allow Dolby Atmos pass thru apps play external movie instead of stream. Passthru as up to 7.1 PCM still sound great but I think it will be even better if it is passthru as Dolby Atmos. Haha! Wait for new version Nvidia Shield just consider.

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post Apr 15 2019, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ Apr 15 2019, 03:57 AM)
LG SK9 - RM2097 (5.1.2 ch,dolby atmos, 500w)
LG SK8 - RM1398 (2.1ch , dolby atmos,360w)
LG SK6 - RM1096 (2.1 ch)
For dolby atmos LG SK9 seems better over SONY HTX900F.. Both just 1 hdmi in, 1 hdmi out. If u have more devices than got to use tv..

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I not sure for others, but LG SK9 won't activate Dolby Atmos if your source is not direct connect to the soundbar but TV itself.
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QUOTE(skyforcerld @ Apr 15 2019, 02:29 PM)
I think most, if not all won't. Current ARC only supports DD passthrough. Any other additional formats like DD plus or DD Atmos, is a hit and miss (most likely miss) when using current ARC, depending your TV supports it or not, and your soundbar/AVR supports it or not, and even if both do, are they compatible with each other.

We will need HDMI 2.1 and e-ARC for return of higher quality audio DD Atmos.

So best bet today on connections, is to have a box(playing NETFLIX/YOUTUBE/Whatever) => soundbar/AVR => TV.
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Ya. Agree. I also check out it is also due to current HDMI issue.

The problem is beside TV Box, I also have 4K UHD player but seldom use already. Haha!

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