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David_77
post May 10 2019, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ May 10 2019, 02:28 PM)
In my line of work, whatever company I work for will surely have medical benefit.

Thus, I don't need personal medical insurance while working. The money I saved, I use it for saving/investment.

Remember, insurance is not investment.

When I do actually retire, I'll just pay for any medical cost with the money I saved.

At the end of the day, clinics/hospitals accept money.
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that's nice on having medical insurance coverage by the companies you worked/work in.

as mentioned in my previous post, one gets to save money for other area of redeployment since it's cover by company. but the downside is that any pre-existing illnesses will be excluded if one is to take up ones own later.

as for medical costs, depending on the type of illness, i guess. minor illness, money saved over the years could cover. but major one, which requires hospitalization, the fees could be more than the premium saving.

still, not saying one must get medical insurance. just need to know both side of pros and cons.
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post May 10 2019, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(David_77 @ May 10 2019, 02:38 PM)
that's nice on having medical insurance coverage by the companies you worked/work in.

as mentioned in my previous post, one gets to save money for other area of redeployment since it's cover by company. but the downside is that any pre-existing illnesses will be excluded if one is to take up ones own later.

as for medical costs, depending on the type of illness, i guess. minor illness, money saved over the years could cover. but major one, which requires hospitalization, the fees could be more than the premium saving.

still, not saying one must get medical insurance. just need to know both side of pros and cons.
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indeed, it will depend on personal need.

I think if one has, let's say half a million saved up and set aside for medical cost - one can forget medical insurance.

If your medical costs is more than that, perhaps better to die!

Edit: It is much easier to reach half a million if you start young, and while company covers your medical costs smile.gif


This post has been edited by Bora Prisoner: May 10 2019, 02:44 PM
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post May 10 2019, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ May 10 2019, 02:43 PM)
indeed, it will depend on personal need.

I think if one has, let's say half a million saved up and set aside for medical cost - one can forget medical insurance.

If your medical costs is more than that, perhaps better to die!
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true true. nowadays, orang cakap, boleh mati, tak boleh jatuh sakit. sigh... it's this type of world we live in now.

on another note, i think it's better to buy term insurances for all. then use the extra to invest/savig.

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QUOTE(David_77 @ May 10 2019, 02:46 PM)
true true. nowadays, orang cakap, boleh mati, tak boleh jatuh sakit. sigh... it's this type of world we live in now.

on another note, i think it's better to buy term insurances for all. then use the extra to invest/savig.
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Indeed, I have my own term insurance (to cover critical illnesses that is not covered by company medical insurance).

The extra $$, I use to save/invest.

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QUOTE(Bora Prisoner @ May 10 2019, 02:51 PM)
Indeed, I have my own term insurance (to cover critical illnesses that is not covered by company medical insurance).

The extra $$, I use to save/invest.
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nice. same here. although this type of insurance we don't want to claim but still... call it a peace of mind bah.
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Hi all, I've started working about 10 months now and would like to seek your advice.

Salary after deduction: 2.7k

I usually save RM 1k per month into my savings, any remaining monies are for my expenses. However, I won't splurge all the remaining, only spend on what I need. Any leftover will be rolled to next month.

I've been thinking of growing my savings as I feel like the money should be invested somewhere else instead of sitting in my account, however I do not have a single clue where to start. Any advice?
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QUOTE(zeronova @ May 10 2019, 03:46 PM)
Hi all, I've started working about 10 months now and would like to seek your advice.

Salary after deduction: 2.7k

I usually save RM 1k per month into my savings, any remaining monies are for my expenses. However, I won't splurge all the remaining, only spend on what I need. Any leftover will be rolled to next month.

I've been thinking of growing my savings as I feel like the money should be invested somewhere else instead of sitting in my account, however I do not have a single clue where to start. Any advice?
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notworthy.gif As a % of your gross/net active income ie. man-at-work, very good start, even for a veteran saver/investor

IMHO, vehicles to invest in, ranging from "no-brainer" all the way to "hm.. maybe not.."
1. FD <-- checkout thread/topic in LYN
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2. Fixed Price ASB / ASN <-- checkout thread/topic in LYN
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3. Mutual funds / unit trusts - equity funds, bond funds, REIT funds, money market funds <-- checkout fundsupermart thread/topic
4. Private Retirement Scheme (PRS) - in reality, unit trusts but under Gov incentivised scheme <-- has tax relief up! google it <-- checkout thread/topic in LYN
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5. Stocks - listed Bursa, SGX, US, HangSeng, can buy individual stocks/REITs or baskets like ETFs which are similar to unit trusts but listed as a stock <-- google ETFs, REITs, individual stocks
6. Properties - leverage is the game here but it cuts both ways ya. be aware
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7. Stock Options - Sell / Buy US stock options. Not condoning BUYING options/warrants ya but i do sell options while hoping to get the price i want, and at very low leverages - ie. i'm able to pickup the stock if assigned.
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8. Stock/Commodity/Index Futures, FOREX, Bitcoins & other ICOs - totally different kettle of fish here. Trading mostly, not investing (ie. buy good & go zzz & watch once awhile)

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: May 10 2019, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(zeronova @ May 10 2019, 03:46 PM)
Hi all, I've started working about 10 months now and would like to seek your advice.

Salary after deduction: 2.7k

I usually save RM 1k per month into my savings, any remaining monies are for my expenses. However, I won't splurge all the remaining, only spend on what I need. Any leftover will be rolled to next month.

I've been thinking of growing my savings as I feel like the money should be invested somewhere else instead of sitting in my account, however I do not have a single clue where to start. Any advice?
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may I suggest that you start to build up an emergency fund consisted of about 6 months of required monthly expenses.

then once your 1st level of financial stage are built, then try buy some personal accident insurance if you travel by bikes to work or high risks exposed employment, else priority would be buy some medical insurance (term type) to prevent oneself from relying of others financially incase of medical hospitalisation.

in the meantime while doing /planning that, read more about investment to try to gauge where/which you will feel more "comfortable" to start....

btw, this new thread has some info provided by othere forummers...

Anyone kena burnt in investment?, Experience and your lesson learnt (Investment)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4774851

thus on this "I've been thinking of growing my savings as I feel like the money should be invested somewhere else instead of sitting in my account, however I do not have a single clue where to start. Any advice?"

growing your saving by putting money in FD is also growing biggrin.gif





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post May 12 2019, 12:28 PM

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Do I need to differentiate between savings and investment?
Or can it be stored in the same account?

My current understanding is:
Investment : Long Terms with set target (e.g. 10 years with 8% return p.a)

Savings : Short Term (e.g. Vacation in 1 year)
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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 10 2019, 12:19 AM)
Hi, not the owner of the question but saw your reply on removing from Stashaway. May I know why? Quite new to financial stuff and investment still so might need a little guidance with it  sweat.gif

Age 25 (non-bumi)
Gross salary RM3900 after epf, socso, pcb etc
No side income @@

Emergency Fund - 10k

Investments
StashAway - RM15k

Expenses roughly
Rental plus utilities - RM550
Food - RM450
Insurance - RM390
Transport - RM60
Misc - RM200

Remaining - RM2250

Currently most of the saving will go to StashAway (1.5k monthly)
Remaing 750 not sure where to invest yet. Still learning about investment.

Any input is welcome thumbup.gif
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May I know what is stashaway?
An app?

QUOTE(neverfap @ May 10 2019, 01:42 AM)
Thank u very much for the replies!!

Alright. Asnb for fixed price fund right?

Currently under GE
500k death
500k CI
500k early stage
Smartmedic xtra 200myr (annual 120k)
Smartmedic xtra 99 200myr
Smart extender 120k 200myr (annual 1. 2m)
Smart extender 120k 99 200myr
Hospitalizations 50myr

390 a month (cash value can tahan till age 69)

U guys got any good insurance plan to introduce
All input is welcome as usual

Edit: Currently no dependents. But if anything happen to me. I dun wanna burden my parents. Also sis is still studying but being funded by scholarship
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Your insurance is medical?
Now medical card got annually renew up to 1M
Check with ur agent can lower down to 250 mthly or not
Room n board just 50?

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post May 18 2019, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(se800i @ May 18 2019, 03:48 PM)
May I know what is stashaway?
An app?
Your insurance is medical?
Now medical card got annually renew up to 1M
Check with ur agent can lower down to 250 mthly or not
Room n board just 50?
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Yes. It's an app/robo advisor

Yup. Medical card now 120k a year for my case. I've downgrade my insurance plan to 300/month. Where the death and Ci has been reduced to 100k each. Room n Board is 200 n 1.2m annual limit.

I have tried to consult with my agent. But he is those young hot blood that go for commission. So impossible to get a lower price quotation from him. Unlucky me I guess haha.

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post May 19 2019, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 18 2019, 05:55 PM)
Yes. It's an app/robo advisor

Yup. Medical card now 120k a year for my case. I've downgrade my insurance plan to 300/month. Where the death and Ci has been reduced to 100k each. Room n Board is 200 n 1.2m annual limit.

I have tried to consult with my agent. But he is those young hot blood that go for commission. So impossible to get a lower price quotation from him. Unlucky me I guess haha.
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congrats for the downgrade! but abit too high for your age. if I were you, I reduce it to <250, around 200. and increase my expenses in healthy food.
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post May 19 2019, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ May 19 2019, 01:15 AM)
congrats for the downgrade! but abit too high for your age. if I were you, I reduce it to <250, around 200. and increase my expenses in healthy food.
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Thanks smile.gif
But I think i will keep it for now. Found another agent and might change to him (a more honest one). That time I might change my plan xD

Currently have a quite healthy diet xD.

Really thanks all the sifu here for helping!
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QUOTE(Enjoise @ May 9 2019, 05:38 PM)
Hi guys. Kindly look through my expenses.
Totally blew my budget although I hv been spending carefully.

April Expenses Items:-
Housing Loan & maintenances etc 3100
Car (petrol,toll & parking) 470
Food 730
Leisure 140
Phone & Internet 165
Paid some legal fees 1100
Misc healthcare, dental, services etc 245

Total Expenses : 5950
Nett Income : 5000 - 6000

Thnks.
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Hmmm

From what I see here, you can reduce your expense on food by about RM100+. To do so, you should cook during weekend and 1-2 times per weekday.
You can save some cash on petrol and toll if you use Setel app to earn cashback for Petrol and TnG 20% Pay Direct cashback.

As for housing loan and maintenance, you can do a house hack. You rent out one or two of your rooms. You can also rent out your living room as well.
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QUOTE(Enjoise @ May 9 2019, 04:38 PM)
Hi guys. Kindly look through my expenses.
Totally blew my budget although I hv been spending carefully.

April Expenses Items:-
Housing Loan & maintenances etc 3100
Car (petrol,toll & parking) 470
Food 730
Leisure 140
Phone & Internet 165
Paid some legal fees 1100
Misc healthcare, dental, services etc 245

Total Expenses : 5950
Nett Income : 5000 - 6000

Thnks.
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DSR>30% is financially stretched, you could be piling up cc debts.

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post May 19 2019, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(neverfap @ May 18 2019, 04:55 PM)
Yes. It's an app/robo advisor

Yup. Medical card now 120k a year for my case. I've downgrade my insurance plan to 300/month. Where the death and Ci has been reduced to 100k each. Room n Board is 200 n 1.2m annual limit.

I have tried to consult with my agent. But he is those young hot blood that go for commission. So impossible to get a lower price quotation from him. Unlucky me I guess haha.
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Did he show you min sustainable amount? You can also go to the GE Service Center, get a quote and do changes to your policy there directly.
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QUOTE(Reventon @ May 10 2019, 12:05 AM)
Recently found a quite good app for tracking expenses and budgeting. [URL=Money Manager : Budget&Expense by Realbyte Inc. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/money-manag...d560481810?mt=8]Money Manager iOS[/URL]
Been using HomeBudget for past few years and found this is more detailed and more customizable compare to HM.
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Thanks for the recommendation. Will try it out. Currently using SpendLog after trying out countless of money management app.
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Need some advices here.

Im currently 27. Planning on getting married and buying a house within the next 2 years. My savings are able to cover 60 months of my monthly expenses.

I have been considering about getting a life and accident insurance just in case anything happens to me. A friend of mine who works as an insurance agent quoted me RM664 per month for a sum insured of 1.1m for life, 500k for illness, around 200k for accident, and a medical card of 1.2m per year.

I had a discussion with my gf and she thinks that it is not necessary to insure that much when im still young. Im in a dilemma about this because I see it as an important thing to ensure that either my parents or future wife have sufficient amount of money to support themselves if anything happens to me, but my gf thinks that I shouldn’t be spending so much on insurance at this young age.

Would anybody mind giving me some opinions please?
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QUOTE(ratloverice @ May 21 2019, 06:12 PM)
Need some advices here.

Im currently 27. Planning on getting married and buying a house within the next 2 years. My savings are able to cover 60 months of my monthly expenses.

I have been considering about getting a life and accident insurance just in case anything happens to me. A friend of mine who works as an insurance agent quoted me RM664 per month for a sum insured of 1.1m for life, 500k for illness, around 200k for accident, and a medical card of 1.2m per year.

I had a discussion with my gf and she thinks that it is not necessary to insure that much when im still young. Im in a dilemma about this because I see it as an important thing to ensure that either my parents or future wife have sufficient amount of money to support themselves if anything happens to me, but my gf thinks that I shouldn’t be spending so much on insurance at this young age.

Would anybody mind giving me some opinions please?
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There is an insurance thread with great sifus here
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4712323/+980
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QUOTE(ratloverice @ May 21 2019, 06:12 PM)
Need some advices here.

Im currently 27. Planning on getting married and buying a house within the next 2 years. My savings are able to cover 60 months of my monthly expenses.

I have been considering about getting a life and accident insurance just in case anything happens to me. A friend of mine who works as an insurance agent quoted me RM664 per month for a sum insured of 1.1m for life, 500k for illness, around 200k for accident, and a medical card of 1.2m per year.

I had a discussion with my gf and she thinks that it is not necessary to insure that much when im still young. Im in a dilemma about this because I see it as an important thing to ensure that either my parents or future wife have sufficient amount of money to support themselves if anything happens to me, but my gf thinks that I shouldn’t be spending so much on insurance at this young age.

Would anybody mind giving me some opinions please?
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At your age I don’t think you need to have such an expensive insurance plan. Work on your priorities, for instance do you really need a 1 mil life plan? The reason I bought a life plan is as MLTA, in case something happens to me, my family won’t be burdened by my house loan.

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