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ratloverice
post May 21 2019, 06:12 PM

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Need some advices here.

Im currently 27. Planning on getting married and buying a house within the next 2 years. My savings are able to cover 60 months of my monthly expenses.

I have been considering about getting a life and accident insurance just in case anything happens to me. A friend of mine who works as an insurance agent quoted me RM664 per month for a sum insured of 1.1m for life, 500k for illness, around 200k for accident, and a medical card of 1.2m per year.

I had a discussion with my gf and she thinks that it is not necessary to insure that much when im still young. Im in a dilemma about this because I see it as an important thing to ensure that either my parents or future wife have sufficient amount of money to support themselves if anything happens to me, but my gf thinks that I shouldn’t be spending so much on insurance at this young age.

Would anybody mind giving me some opinions please?
ratloverice
post May 22 2019, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(silverviolet @ May 21 2019, 06:29 PM)
There is an insurance thread with great sifus here
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4712323/+980
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Thank you for the link biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

QUOTE(coolguy99 @ May 21 2019, 07:57 PM)
At your age I don’t think you need to have such an expensive insurance plan. Work on your priorities, for instance do you really need a 1 mil life plan? The reason I bought a life plan is as MLTA, in case something happens to me, my family won’t be burdened by my house loan.
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My concern is that my beloved ones should have enough money to support their daily life just in case anything happens to me. MLTA will be bought when I buying my house next year.
ratloverice
post May 23 2019, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ May 22 2019, 07:28 AM)
Are you married yet, you mention girlfriend ma.

If you're buying a house just for yourself (no one else staying) then why need insurance to cover the loan? The house itself is an asset which can be sold to cover the loan (and with whatever profit goes to your loved ones).

Insurance is normally for dependents (esp children or non-working spouse). Right now you have neither.
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Im not married yet, but am already planning a marriage with this gf in the next 2 years.

I will be buying the house jointly with my gf that's why I need to have it insured. As for insurance, the nominee will be my parents for the time being, but will be changed to my wife later.

QUOTE(yklooi @ May 22 2019, 09:03 AM)
saving can last 5 yrs of monthly expenses.... thumbup.gif
this expenses amount is for your current self only?

Yeah it is calculated based on my current expenses of RM7k per month. It will be reduced to 4.5k by May 2020.

on this..."to ensure that either my parents or future wife have sufficient amount of money to support themselves if anything happens to me"

does that current available saving, includes "your future family" (1 spouse + 2 kids) monthly expenses......(next 5 yrs)

No, that is just for the 1.1m of insured amount. Both me and my gf have agreed that we don't want to have a child in the next 5 years, so that shouldn't be a problem. Even if we have a child later, I expect my savings + payment from insurance will be about 2m if anything happens to me. That should be enough for them to use and to generate more income.

after your got the house next 2 yrs...will you be drawing money from that saving to do the house renovation?
if yes.......hope you had budgeted about RM70k +  for that purposes....then how many more months of that saving can cover your monthly and family needs expenses?

Yes, I am expecting a renovation cost of about RM200k after the house is built and a mortgage payment of RM10k per month for the next 7 years. It will not shorten the duration that my savings can last.

after getting your house, in the next 2 yrs....will you plan to getting married with your current GF?
if yes.....will you be drawing money from that saving to do the marriage expenses?
if yes.....hope you had budgeted about RM20k + for that purposes...then how many more months of that saving can cover your monthly and family needs expenses?

Yes, we are going to just make the ceremony super duper simple. The cost should be around RM40k - RM80k including honeymoon trip + wedding rings + other expenses for wedding. That will not affect the duration that my savings can last.

This RM664 per month is about how many % of your net take home pay?
How much is the monthly housing loan + maintenance fees (if any)? This housing loan is about how many % of your net take home pay?
How much monthly per month do you think you will need per month after getting married + with a family in the next 3 yrs?

The RM664 insurance premium is about 2.66% of my monthly income. I do not have a house yet but will buy one in November 2020. Planning on paying RM10k per month and it will be exactly 40% of my current income, but I think my income will probably be slightly higher by the time I need to start making mortgage payments. I calculated and think that my monthly expenses should be around RM15k per month (including mortgage and auto loan payments) after getting married without a child. But if my gf stops working after that, that should be around RM17-18k per month.

Does your current employer has any form of insurance coverage?
if yes....how is the coverage like....?

Nope. I am self-employed. I own a medical card which covers up to RM1.2m per year (in-patient).

Does your family members has any medical history of critical illnesses?

Yes, my father's side seems to have inherited cancer genes.

Does your parent has any form of insurance coverage?

My mother has a medical card. I don't think that my father has any.

Does your GF has any form of insurance coverage?

She does but Im not really clear about her policies.

Does your "kids" needs any form of insurance coverage?

I think they do. Will buy if I have children in the future

with that...to add on to your current so call dilemma..... brows.gif ...
how to ensure that either your parents or future wife (+ kids) have sufficient amount of money to support themselves if anything happens to any of THEM, without drawing into your savings or become a liabilities to you  biggrin.gif

I don't think that my parents will need financial assistance from me just in case anything happens. They have quite a large amount of savings so that's probably enough... As for my gf, she has her own insurance so I think that should be okay.

Insurance is a good to have thing & it is a long terms commitment like marriage, plan the suitability, affordability and sustainability, else they would become a "useless" burden. (severely under covarage or permature termination)

Yr GF knows alot more about your current financial standing than me.......thus, on the side of err....i think your GF is right.

Do you think that I am spending too much on insurance? From my point of view, it's like life is unpredictable and I don't know what will happen the next second. I prefer to make sure as early as possible that my spouse or my future family will not suddenly have major financial problem someday in the future after I'm gone.
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ratloverice
post Oct 2 2019, 12:32 AM

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Need some advices here.

I'm planning on buying a house next year. The property that caught my fancy is about RM900k, so the monthly instalment should be around RM4.5k. I used mbb's mortgage loan calculator and found that if I pay RM10k per month, I will be able to settle the loan in 9.5 years. Is it worth doing so?

Some of you might recommend me to invest the money somewhere else, but I am not sure whether I should do so as my current take-home pay is still sufficient to support my expenses after paying RM10k monthly. I'm pretty sure that the figure will be consistent for the next 5 years, but can't guarantee anything after that. That's why I would like to settle the housing loan as soon as possible.
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post Oct 2 2019, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 2 2019, 01:01 AM)
yes, normally people would advise you to extend the loan duration and use the extra money to do other investment as the h/l interest rate is considerably low.
but is it worth to settle the loan in 9.5 yrs in your point of view?
YES, only you know your self better and just do what ever pleased you more and make have a better peace of mind....

btw, you can consider full flexi package....whereby the duration is example 25 yrs, but if you have extra money you can dump more into it to settle it faster, but you can also have the option to take out the extra money for other uses when the time comes too.
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I can't imagine working for 35 years continuously just to pay a mortgage loan. I prefer to settle the loan ASAP so that I can stop worrying about what to do if my business closes down one day in the future.

Says I pay 10k per month while the monthly instalment is just 4.5k. If I go for conventional mortgage loan, can settle in 9.5 years. Can full-flexi loan reduce the period to that 9.5 years also?
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post Oct 3 2019, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 2 2019, 02:04 AM)
I always thought that basic loan allows borrowers to make advance payments but it seems that I was wrong. Thank you for the help.

QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Oct 2 2019, 09:25 PM)
Full flexi reduces the interest that you pay, similar like a conventional mortgage loan where you make an advance payment to reduce the loan principal amount,

The only difference is that you are able to withdraw the amount anytime, without any fees involved.
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I don't foresee the need to withdraw the advance payment at the moment... TBH I prefer the type of loan that enables me to settle the loan within the shortest time possible.

 

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