S4 is kind of failure from Samsung, when start selling that time, it anytime hang/restart itself when you touch the camera.

The entire phone feel lagging, the 2GB RAM is not enough for everything Samsung put inside. Don't said on trim down the bloatware, not everyone do that, and 1st impression on S4 is bad for most people.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: Oct 21 2013, 07:29 PM

better wait for nexus 5 then, same price like note2

note 3 better...

Yeay, I like stormlcc's replies. Kekeke

because samsung screwed up their S3 with the spec (too little RAM to run that stupid bloated touchwiz skin of theirs) and made it even more lag than the note 2, not to mention the instability of the system (i got so much complaints from customers about system and data corruption after only 7-8 months). and because ppl here are screen whore, they will just go with anything that is big.

Gawd hating touchwiz has no real bearing on the matter at hand. Since some people are so pro the pure google experience ffs flash in aosp or cm to the note 2. As for lag since that's the topic du jour, 500ms won't kill you is it even 365days x 100 times of 500ms lag or what you perceive to be lag...

Note 2 has one of the largest active community of modders as well so again i say....flash whatever you want if you don't want 90% of the stock stuff.

S pen AND active digitizers ftw.

note 3 note 2 both phone suck! s series better more to human nature....

note 3 in your hand its like urself become clown with big nose...

note 3 for sure!!!!! of coz wait for few month let the price drop abit then buy

Holly Molly...this thread gonna be flame war thread again between Samsung haters and Samsung users.

OP/TS only ask about Note2 or Note3. ...not for haters to barge in and start ranting.

Thread reported.

I was not a fan of a note 2, even with its super specs. But if you have extra cash, its worth going with the note 3. I think the best build samsung phone by far, after the galaxy nexus imo. And the specs, you just can't go wrong with it. 4k ftw

dude just enjoy your phone.
no need to go spreading hate on samsung touch wiz.

when you complain touch wiz in front of non techqie common users, you'll look like a fool, because to most people samsung is branded phone, direct competitor to apple, especially the galaxy s and note series.

when you complain touch wiz in this forum full of people who are well verse in flashing, you look like a bigger fool.
because samsung phones are easy to root, making bloatware removable, and aosp custom roms are available too.
any samsung note or s series. flash any aosp custom rom, enable on screen nav bar. its basically a super charge nexus phone. complete with awesome camera and lots and lots of storage, and removable battery.

i dont have time to dig up source, but i once read cyanogenmod google+ post saying that more than half their user base consist of a combination of s2 and s3 (that was before s4 announced). hence they will still be supporting them even tough exynos is not developer friendly.

this is an innocent thread. should't you report the trouble maker user instead?

recommendation thread is pinned. use it