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post Jun 25 2008, 01:09 PM

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bro BlackThyra87,your D9GKX run at same setting?

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post Jun 25 2008, 01:23 PM

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tracers have heat issues... and also maybe it uses lousy d9.... by the way, its true that tracers might not be as good as it might have been.. why dont u ust try the ballistixs instead of the tracers...
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post Jun 25 2008, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(Archaven @ Jun 19 2008, 07:15 PM)
ok thanks alot a1098113 smile.gif.

i was wondering what RAM stress tool anyone use? memtest86+? prime95 blend test? OCCT RAM test? hci memtest?

i've seen many can achieve high RAM OC. but did it pass memory stress test?

i've tried OCCT stress test RAM for 2 hours and it passed certifying it stable but when i ran HCI memtest, it produce error almost instantaneously.

i'm currently testing 1000MHz at 4-4-4-8 with 2.3vdimm and hci memtest failed at 450% coverage. hmm.gif. is hci memtest is a reliable memory stressing tool?
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if u pass memtest..

usually ure scores are higher

for the biostar mobo since its inbuilt
all my voltages that are lower than 2.3
i ran memtest86...

those that are above i dont.. cause thats insane to do it...
but roughly from previous subtimings experience i can guess what will pass and what wouldnt.

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post Jun 25 2008, 02:11 PM

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yeah... hmm cant wait to get the rams from you!!! cstkl1 notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

by the way, when exactly would someone be able to come up with a d9 variant for overcocking for the 4Gb kits.
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post Jun 25 2008, 02:40 PM

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dude the good stuff for 4gbs are almost out of stock and soon eol

already told some of u guys its the PC2-8000 series

ocz reaperx PC2-8000
mushkin redlines PC2-8000
geil PC2-8000..

and the king currently is the ocx flex 2 PC2-9200 ( sold out everywhere)

heard from channel partners they are going to stop production as the cost of the micron chip is more expensive that pcp that can run PC2-8500 at the same voltage..

but not as overclockable
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post Jun 25 2008, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(BlackThyra87 @ Jun 25 2008, 08:18 AM)
just got my Ballistix Tracers from shawty last nite.

tested them, and found out that they are not as good as it used to be sad.gif

@2.2v i can only push up to 458MHz (916 DDR, 1:1) with 5-4-4-12.cant even boot at that speed with 4-4-4-12 .. while my D9GKX can do it absolutely with no sweat @ 2.0v...

is it the ram or my P35-DS3 is holding it out? tried various tweaking but none helps. Refer to my sig for my specs.

so the rumors that the 1gb modules chips got changed is true then, and high density modules are useless for OC (cant expect more like before - low vdimm @ 9xx)

any comments?
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i guess that is just the norm for the tracers... had one last time on the p35-ds3 as well n it craps out at 990mhz 5-5-5-15 with 2.2vdimm doh.gif sweat.gif

but after that i changed to normal ballistix on the same mobo and it can go around 1000mhz 5-5-5-15 on stock vdimm
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QUOTE(BlackThyra87 @ Jun 25 2008, 08:18 AM)
just got my Ballistix Tracers from shawty last nite.

tested them, and found out that they are not as good as it used to be sad.gif

@2.2v i can only push up to 458MHz (916 DDR, 1:1) with 5-4-4-12.cant even boot at that speed with 4-4-4-12 .. while my D9GKX can do it absolutely with no sweat @ 2.0v...

is it the ram or my P35-DS3 is holding it out? tried various tweaking but none helps. Refer to my sig for my specs.

so the rumors that the 1gb modules chips got changed is true then, and high density modules are useless for OC (cant expect more like before - low vdimm @ 9xx)

any comments?
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That is because Ballistix Tracer suck laugh.gif You need Xtreem 1066 or old D9GKX godness brows.gif
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post Jun 26 2008, 02:03 AM

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QUOTE(fesick @ Jun 25 2008, 01:09 PM)
bro BlackThyra87,your D9GKX run at same setting?
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ya my D9GKX can run much higher speeds with no troubles

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jun 25 2008, 01:23 PM)
tracers have heat issues... and also maybe it uses lousy d9.... by the way, its true that tracers might not be as good as it might have been.. why dont u just try the ballistixs instead of the tracers...
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well, i didn't expect that normal ballistix and tracers differs that much! doh.gif cuz both should OC well judging from results posted by overclockers around the world..

as u can see... i already bought that pair .... anybody interested swapping my tracers with normal ballistix?? rolleyes.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jun 25 2008, 01:23 PM)
tracers have heat issues... and also maybe it uses lousy d9.... by the way, its true that tracers might not be as good as it might have been.. why dont u ust try the ballistixs instead of the tracers...
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i measured my ram temp (dual memtest) and the temp tops up to 56C @ load (100% memory usage) and about 46C under normal operation @ 2.2vdimm. sweat.gif

very true, i think tracers dont use D9GMH no more.. probably D9GCT or some other poor oc chips.

QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jun 25 2008, 06:49 PM)
i guess that is just the norm for the tracers... had one last time on the p35-ds3 as well n it craps out at 990mhz 5-5-5-15 with 2.2vdimm doh.gif  sweat.gif

but after that i changed to normal ballistix on the same mobo and it can go around 1000mhz 5-5-5-15 on stock vdimm
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hmm 990mhz is quite a an achievement.. but i didnt test max oc of my sticks yet. gonna test it out later. i'll keep u guys posted.

wow normal ballistix can do 1ghz @ NORMAL vdimm? thats awesome... can show me some screenies? tempting... hmm.gif

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sory wanna ask tat tracer compatible wif my mobo ka??..
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anybody knw wut is the max volt for ram to oc???
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QUOTE(BlackThyra87 @ Jun 26 2008, 02:03 AM)
wow normal ballistix can do 1ghz @ NORMAL vdimm? thats awesome... can show me some screenies? tempting...  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(seiji_kun @ Jun 26 2008, 02:47 AM)
sory wanna ask tat tracer compatible wif my mobo ka??..
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yes...can use no problem.....

QUOTE(BuLaNaR @ Jun 26 2008, 05:23 AM)
anybody knw wut is the max volt for ram to oc???
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normally its 2.2v depending on ram... but to use on more than 2.1v, its recommended to have air cooling on it...
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Forget about tracer and ballistix.Most of it are crap unless some handpick gem like coolice pair of PC2-8000. biggrin.gif Go for Team Xtreem DDR 2 1066 or Corsair Dorminator DDR 2 1066 2GB Rev1,sure no regret smile.gif
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i think ballistix 2GB kits are not crap since they carry d9gmh rite? maybe tracers do crap out abit.

But yeah what cstkl1 says about rams, what rams to buy, is basically the best in the market smile.gif
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post Jun 26 2008, 01:59 PM

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dude 4x1gb's are expensive..especially when u want d9gmh's

2x1gb is silly to buy.. cause ure just a pantsy if u do..
vista is the way

so its a 4gb clocking scene...
ppl want to see 4gb clocks.. whether its 4x1gb or 2x2gb..
cause thats the current need for gaming

for us who actually love online gaming for FPS and strategy..
need those 4gb's with vista.
ati HD3000 series and HD4000 series is made for vista..
they dont perform that well for xp..

so again i reiterate crucial rams are crap not because of the rams per say
we should blame ourselves for living in a malaysia..
the rams are not suitable for our climate for overclocking and 24/7 run.
the pcbs are too thin..
and was made that way to save electricity with those low voltages.

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post Jun 26 2008, 02:18 PM

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there's also debatable issue on consideration of 4 highly-oc'ed sticks cause burden on mobo.
either results in high-clocks unachievable or unstable.

so, end up 2x2gb setup seems more preferable but with very limited choices avail for nice oc-able kits.

as d9 ain't exists in 2gb sticks
somehow, nice oc-able 2gb stick's chip is still unknown?
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 26 2008, 01:59 PM)
dude 4x1gb's are expensive..especially when u want d9gmh's

2x1gb is silly to buy.. cause ure just a pantsy if u do..
vista is the way

so its a 4gb clocking scene...
ppl want to see 4gb clocks.. whether its 4x1gb or 2x2gb..
cause thats the current need for gaming

for us who actually love online gaming for FPS and strategy..
need those 4gb's with vista.
ati HD3000 series and HD4000 series is made for vista..
they dont perform that well for xp..

so again i reiterate crucial rams are crap not because of the rams per say
we should blame ourselves for living in a malaysia..
the rams are not suitable for our climate for overclocking and 24/7 run.
the pcbs are too thin..
and was made that way to save electricity with those low voltages.
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i disagree about being silly to buy 2*1GB... i think its peoples preference and what exactly the users purpose is to use the rams for.. If you cant utilize 2GB why move to 4GB. theres nothing pantsy about it.


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a1098113, 2 gb is definately not enough for vista especially in those FPS and strategy game. In XP u might survive with 2gb but in Vista u need more.

so far after i upgrade my platform to vista, average ram utilization is hitting 2.5gb during normal gaming session. I ran riva tuner side by side to monitor the resource utilization.

btw, ocx flex 2 PC2-9200 is da king as cstkl mention at the moment..... sadly all runnig out of stock
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even the 32-bit vista basic? does it need 4GB? as well? Anyways, i do know that vista is a whore with rams.. but.. hmm 2*1Gb is still pretty useful and not as bad as purported by cstkl1... what i am trying to say is that, having 2Gb doesnt mean youre pantsy.. anyways lets get on with the topic... and be more productive smile.gif By the way, any 4GB kits that can hot 1200Mhz?
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jun 26 2008, 03:57 PM)
a1098113, 2 gb is definately not enough for vista especially in those FPS and strategy game. In XP u might survive with 2gb but in Vista u need more.

so far after i upgrade my platform to vista, average ram utilization is hitting 2.5gb during normal gaming session. I ran riva tuner side by side to monitor the resource utilization.

btw, ocx flex 2 PC2-9200 is da king as cstkl mention at the moment..... sadly all runnig out of stock
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jun 26 2008, 04:04 PM)
even the 32-bit vista basic? does it need 4GB? as well? Anyways, i do know that vista is a whore with rams.. but.. hmm 2*1Gb is still pretty useful and not as bad as purported by cstkl1... what i am trying to say is that, having 2Gb doesnt mean youre pantsy.. anyways lets get on with the topic... and be more productive smile.gif By the way, any 4GB kits that can hot 1200Mhz?
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dude even on dota if i the game takes like 45mins to 1 hour
will run with out of mem

thats how bad 2gb on vista is..
lets not even go to new games..

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i think u guys gaming on high reso.. mine still ok on 1280x1024..
highest hit ~2.3gb
so by everage depend on users need..

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