either its Hynix or Micron...

check it out la....nice clocks there!

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Apr 3 2007, 09:16 PM

just got my Ballistix Tracers from shawty last nite.

tested them, and found out that they are not as good as it used to be

@2.2v i can only push up to 458MHz (916 DDR, 1:1) with 5-4-4-12.cant even boot at that speed with 4-4-4-12 .. while my D9GKX can do it absolutely with no sweat @ 2.0v...

is it the ram or my P35-DS3 is holding it out? tried various tweaking but none helps. Refer to my sig for my specs.

so the rumors that the 1gb modules chips got changed is true then, and high density modules are useless for OC (cant expect more like before - low vdimm @ 9xx)

any comments?

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jun 25 2008, 08:21 AM

ya my D9GKX can run much higher speeds with no troubles

well, i didn't expect that normal ballistix and tracers differs that much! cuz both should OC well judging from results posted by overclockers around the world..

as u can see... i already bought that pair .... anybody interested swapping my tracers with normal ballistix??

i measured my ram temp (dual memtest) and the temp tops up to 56C @ load (100% memory usage) and about 46C under normal operation @ 2.2vdimm.

very true, i think tracers dont use D9GMH no more.. probably D9GCT or some other poor oc chips.

hmm 990mhz is quite a an achievement.. but i didnt test max oc of my sticks yet. gonna test it out later. i'll keep u guys posted.

wow normal ballistix can do 1ghz @ NORMAL vdimm? thats awesome... can show me some screenies? tempting...

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jun 26 2008, 02:12 AM

some GEM u got there... wish i had those kits...

yep... different ppl, different needs. even vista do eats LOTs of RAM, 2GB for gaming in vista is not bad either, google yourself about 2gb vs 4b vista gaming, diff only minimal and im talking about less than 3%, and about +-5 FPS difference. human eye still cant see the difference.

when gaming, we are talking about FRAMERATE, not how much ur system utilize the ram. U guys might want to remember that.



Why is 4gb nuts? 1gb is about the standard now and 2gb is much more popular, so what' nuts about it? is it more nuts than two video cards in sli? or quad cores? heck what about the famed PPU?

again i don't defend all aspects of the os, but there are some things i see as necessary to move things forward. and since it's not on the shelves yet, all else seems to be speculation.

hopefully the whole eula matter gets cleared up, otherwise i doubt many people will switch, which would be a shame because otherwise it seems like it's going to be a nice step forward.

ram usage should be brought under control, but by everyone, not just ms, practically every piece of software out there is bloated to some degree, why?

cuz ram is cheap!
high resolution gaming relies on GPU's ram. Higher amount of ram on ur graphic card will allow u to run higher resolution with ease..

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jun 26 2008, 10:19 PM

u guys CLEARLY dont understand on how windows manage system memory.

i will say no more. do read my previous post.

lol.

the remaining ram that is unaddressable by windows is being used for windows IO mappings. more detailed explanations can be found here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

i dont see why there should be any performance degradation because windows still at least 3.2GB of available system memory.

haha thats why its called Random access memory. everything that we run in windows is stored temporarily in the ram for quicker access and located in random places in the ram address space.

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jun 27 2008, 01:03 PM

well, i never think u guys are dumb. everyone can learn, just make sure which source, we got the internet -google, etc. so in this case, i will try to explain in the best of my ability.

so stay tuned. will post it later. im @ work

p/s: this thread just turned to GENERAL RAM dicussion, and not particularly DDR2?

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jun 27 2008, 01:10 PM

like to hear from ur results!

huh? i dont think kingston mislabeled their products. is that what SPD gave u? check ur settings.

i believe Team Xtreem is all OC gems.. so u better test them right away... let us know soon.

of course its ok to put them all together but the downside is, it will run at the lowest speed which is 266MHz (SPD) as shown in the screenie.

for me, its better if u take out ur old 2x512 and let alone the 2x1gb run at dual channel+800Mhz speed.

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jul 10 2008, 11:50 AM

wow.... thats well over 1.5Ghz man... which is RARE!!

coolaler pwnz! XD he's a lagend.

lol its not coolice.. look deeper... its COOLALER

the lagendary overclocker.

dont tell me u dont know him lol..

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jul 11 2008, 11:21 AM

damn u guys got some nice rams... sigh..

my tracers even refuse to run 4-4-4-12 @ 916MHz at 2.2v. Now im running them @ that speed with 5-4-4-12 though..

lazy to tweak them much..

my tracers are the new batch i can say.. bought from shawty.

i havent push it to the edge yet.

any records regarding new this new tracers yet?

hmm...

looks like my tracers running fine with 514MHz (1.03GHz)

Vista Ultimate x86 SP1 (Tweaked)

RAM: 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2v

Some Benchmarks:



Everest Ultimate 4.50.1330 Final



Haven't Stress Test it yet, will do it later.

Gonna put my rig on some serious 3D gaming session for a few hours 1st. See if its stable.

how about u guys?

post some results!

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jul 24 2008, 07:13 PM

it went high as 54C after 6 hours of ORTHOS!

yea i just leave it auto, whenever i try to adjust it, windows will go BSOD right away.

wonder which subtiming to tweak? any guide?

tRD = Performance Level bro...

will try that.. will go down 1 by 1

yep.. anandtech pinpointed that for 800MHz strap should be able to set up to 5 tRD aka Performance Level. it has quite huge impact on memory read bandwidth.

im using the exact settings as showed. (strap 800, 5/4 divider)

its a good read!

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=5

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jul 25 2008, 10:55 AM

UPDATE:

Made some tweaks on memory sub-timings and guess what?



now thats some BIG improvements! but memory write remains about the same

Tried to lower tRD to 6 but system got freezed.

and if i apply any lower than 50 in tRFC, freezed

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jul 25 2008, 07:58 PM

curious about ur sub timings, mind show it to us?

and what OS are u using?

here's the result after setting tRTP to 4:



not much improvement

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jul 25 2008, 10:28 PM

nice bandwidth..

btw, what OS ur using? and pls state ur vDIMM/vMCH/vFSB values.

p/s: if everyone feels like posting their results, state your OS too.

This post has been edited by BlackThyra87: Jul 26 2008, 04:27 AM