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 The Shrimp Thing, All About Shrimp - Neocaridina & Others

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lily64my
post Oct 7 2013, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Oct 7 2013, 01:04 AM)
Sis. Every shrimp look great on dark background. The only exception maybe black colored shrimp as they may look invisible.
Better don't move them to this new tank even you have used old media in the new filter. Cos beneficial bacteria also quite sensitive to new environment.  Like if move from ph 7.6 to ph 6.2 environment they may died off or become less efficient.  Some more your new tank is with ADA amazonia soil that have tons of ammonia. It need a very strong BB colony to handle.
And to help reduce excess ammonia from new ADA soil. You need to do few huge water change. This will swing the water parameter so mych that your shrimp may not able to handle.
Also use a small stick. Poke the new ADA soil to release all those vtrapped air bubble. if not in the future those trapped air may pose as ammonia bomb.
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Came home saw the tank water is clear....i remember read sumwhere to change 100% for 1st time, so did 100% water change. Now cycling it again. Will change 50% tomorrow till end of week.
Meanwhile, malaya is living in 3ft castle...lol
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post Oct 8 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(lily64my @ Oct 7 2013, 10:01 PM)
Came home saw the tank water is clear....i remember read sumwhere to change 100% for 1st time, so did 100% water change.  Now cycling it again. Will change 50% tomorrow till end of week.
Meanwhile, malaya is living in 3ft castle...lol
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Wow 100% wc. I didn't even do that! laugh.gif

Glad things are working out smoothly for you. Hope you get to have a shorter cycle... Although your malayans might hope otherwise so they get to stay longer in the castle! tongue.gif
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post Oct 8 2013, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(lily64my @ Oct 7 2013, 10:01 PM)
Came home saw the tank water is clear....i remember read sumwhere to change 100% for 1st time, so did 100% water change.  Now cycling it again. Will change 50% tomorrow till end of week.
Meanwhile, malaya is living in 3ft castle...lol
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A bit blur here... why 100% water change? Wouldn't that be the same as starting all over again?
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post Oct 8 2013, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 8 2013, 12:48 AM)
A bit blur here... why 100% water change? Wouldn't that be the same as starting all over again?
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normally you only do that for the notorious ammonia bank by the name ADA amazonia. This is the best soil for planted tank cos of huge nutrients it content. But to shrimp tank, those nutrients are to no use but instead pose problem with those tons of ammonia it leech. You should get hold some sample to try.
70% to 100% initial water and subsequent large water change is to help remove/reduce those extra nutrients.
That the reason why ADA soil based tank took longer time to cycle compare with 'chap ayam' soil or sand/gravel.
Even for sole planted tank purpose, initial remove of excess nutrients will also help reduce algae outbreak as during early setup, plants haven't establish to absorb/utilize those nutrients yet.

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post Oct 8 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Oct 8 2013, 01:01 AM)
normally you only do that for the notorious ammonia bank by the name ADA amazonia. This is the best soil for planted tank cos of huge nutrients it content. But to shrimp tank, those nutrients are to no use but instead pose problem with those tons of ammonia it leech. You should get hold some sample to try.
70% to 100% initial water and subsequent large water change is to help remove/reduce those extra nutrients.
That the reason why ADA soil based tank took longer time to cycle compare with 'chap ayam' soil or sand/gravel.
Even for sole planted tank purpose, initial remove of excess nutrients will also help reduce algae outbreak as during early setup, plants haven't establish to absorb/utilize those nutrients yet.
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Is it ok the malaya shrimp tank is without any soil? a lot of algae plants and leaves....so far they are cool in the castle... lol. Need to catch the one with eggs in belly from other tank.
I somehow like the orange ADA soil...maybe getting a bag of it for my 1ft tank.
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post Oct 8 2013, 12:06 PM

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Still no ammonia detected

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post Oct 8 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 8 2013, 12:06 PM)
Still no ammonia detected

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wow nice tank
what plant you used for carpet?
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post Oct 8 2013, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(whitehawk @ Oct 8 2013, 02:40 PM)
wow nice tank
what plant you used for carpet?
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It's just moss mesh. Haven't grown yet smile.gif
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post Oct 8 2013, 06:27 PM

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Anyone tried to put galaxy rasbora together with SHrimp?
are they safe with shrimp? sweat.gif

cant resist they are such a gems

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post Oct 9 2013, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Oct 8 2013, 01:01 AM)
normally you only do that for the notorious ammonia bank by the name ADA amazonia. This is the best soil for planted tank cos of huge nutrients it content. But to shrimp tank, those nutrients are to no use but instead pose problem with those tons of ammonia it leech. You should get hold some sample to try.
70% to 100% initial water and subsequent large water change is to help remove/reduce those extra nutrients.
That the reason why ADA soil based tank took longer time to cycle compare with 'chap ayam' soil or sand/gravel.
Even for sole planted tank purpose, initial remove of excess nutrients will also help reduce algae outbreak as during early setup, plants haven't establish to absorb/utilize those nutrients yet.
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Agreed. A lesson learnt for me back then as I didn't do that much wc...hence algae attack was crazy. Well, guess sometimes we just have to learn it the hard way sad.gif

Just thankful it turn out for the better now...that both plants and shrimps are doing ok. Although hoping no time bomb since I've got some air pockets in the soil.


QUOTE(lily64my @ Oct 8 2013, 12:00 PM)
Is it ok the malaya shrimp tank is without any soil? a lot of algae plants and leaves....so far they are cool in the castle... lol. Need to catch the one with eggs in belly from other tank.
I somehow like the orange ADA soil...maybe getting a bag of it for my 1ft tank.
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My Malayans are diggers...they really know how to dig around searching for food. So perhaps it's good to have soil for them to dig around. A more natural environment for them I guess.

By the way...what's the orange soil you're referring to?

QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 8 2013, 12:06 PM)
Still no ammonia detected

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Nice tank you got there bro. What's that black bag hanging at the back of the tank?
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post Oct 9 2013, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(edwinlim82 @ Oct 8 2013, 06:27 PM)
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Anyone tried to put galaxy rasbora together with SHrimp?
are they safe with shrimp? sweat.gif

cant resist they are such a gems
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Forgot to answer this in previous thread.
Yes and no. This fish is safe if it still small size. Once grow big enough when it mouth fit a shrimplets . It will eat them.
I also notice this fish is more aggressive compare with dwarf and mosquito rasbora which both are shrimp safe.

and i do keep 8 of them (small size) before with shrimp and shrimplets, now all gone cos i think i neglect them as i only feed them shrimp food.


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post Oct 9 2013, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(GTBlackIce @ Oct 9 2013, 12:30 AM)
Nice tank you got there bro. What's that black bag hanging at the back of the tank?
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Arrow's recommendation to add plant friendly substrate to introduce ammonia to the tank.
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post Oct 9 2013, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 8 2013, 12:06 PM)
Still no ammonia detected

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hmmmm, what is in the bag? soil?
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post Oct 9 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(calvinyoon @ Oct 9 2013, 08:35 AM)
hmmmm, what is in the bag? soil?
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Yeah its aquarium soil.

Ammonia alert still no detect anything yet.

Had a shrimp death today in the old tank

arrow First time have molting death. Saw this fella molt in the open (usually they hide around the plants) and just when it jump out of the shell, another shrimp nearby jumped at it. Then I notice it didn't fully molt... the very end of its tail didn't disconnect properly. This morning dead liao.

So I'm curious if kena kacau from another shrimp caused this or what.

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post Oct 9 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 8 2013, 12:06 PM)
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Is it good not to have ammonia?

btw...nice tank rclxms.gif

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post Oct 9 2013, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(lily64my @ Oct 9 2013, 10:38 AM)
Is it good not to have ammonia?
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I figure its better to see ammonia first and see it being reduced to check if there's sufficient BB in the tank before adding in the commando squad (test shrimps)

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post Oct 9 2013, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 9 2013, 09:49 AM)
Yeah its aquarium soil.

Ammonia alert still no detect anything yet.

Had a shrimp death today in the old tank

arrow First time have molting death. Saw this fella molt in the open (usually they hide around the plants) and just when it jump out of the shell, another shrimp nearby jumped at it. Then I notice it didn't fully molt... the very end of its tail didn't disconnect properly. This morning dead liao.

So I'm curious if kena kacau from another shrimp caused this or what.
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No, ammonia, got nitrite(NO2) detected ?
Yes, they very fragile when/after molt, if get jumped, they probably died. Yamato like to do that on other shrimp.
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QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Oct 9 2013, 12:45 AM)
Arrow's recommendation to add plant friendly substrate to introduce ammonia to the tank.
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You using what substrate in the new tank? black pearl?
Plant like ammonia, those are nutrient to them.
The best is ADA soil but you can't find.
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QUOTE(arrow @ Oct 9 2013, 10:48 AM)
No, ammonia, got nitrite(NO2) detected ?
Yes, they very fragile when/after molt, if get jumped, they probably died. Yamato like to do that on other shrimp.
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The water seems to be in good shape. No ammonia or nitrite. Normal nitrate. TDS stable for long time at ~183.. same with ph, gh and kh.

I moved the tank to a corner since I got the new tank and it seems that the shrimps were more active when ignored. It's one of the rare occasion when I look into the tank and saw it happen.


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post Oct 9 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(arrow @ Oct 9 2013, 10:53 AM)
You using what substrate in the new tank? black pearl?
Plant like ammonia, those are nutrient to them.
The best is ADA soil but you can't find.
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GEX pure soil in the bag, Substrate in the tank is Up Aqua shrimp sand (I read that its polymer coated or something like that.. won't mess up water)

Gonna wait another day or so.. if still no detect, then will introduce a squad of kamikaze danios into it.

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