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 The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.22, NEW RUMORE Nikon DF!

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post Oct 18 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Oct 17 2013, 11:40 PM)
haha that's why you jump ship right?

can't brain why an easy sensor cleaning also need to charge, the tools needed cost just few ringgits anyway.
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Would be nice if any of the sifus here could perhaps teach us the correct way to clean sensor ourselves? hmm.gif hmm.gif
Abit risky, but once we know how to do it, we can all help one another and no longer rely on Nikon laugh.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(copperwire93 @ Oct 18 2013, 10:29 AM)
Wow, seems need a lot of efforts, must've a lot of tries and errors for me then.

Tested Tamron 10-24 today, so far it is just okay. A lot of reviews say that the edges are softer compared to Sigma and Tokina. I don't have those two but from what my eyes see, it's just okay.
Some say the focus is too slow, it surely trying to focus but not that slow. Perhaps it's just right for me, since my Nikkor 35mm also have this focus speed rate when doing landscape.

Also, first time testing out HDR. Surely it looks funny and cacat compared to your guys' HDR photos. tongue.gif

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For those who haven't try HDR like me previously and want to try this out. I follow this Serge Remelli guide by using both Lightroom and Photoshop.
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having halo effect in HDR is like an instant kill to your pictures, proper HDR pictures shouldn't have halo smile.gif

actually it can be done with just 1 RAW file instead of exposure stacking tongue.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 18 2013, 12:17 AM)
nikon...
ni-kon ....
ni (you in mandarin)- con....
you conned me.... 
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everyone just buy D4, problem setttle  laugh.gif
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Damn creative la you bro laugh.gif
D4 could use moar Megapixels haha laugh.gif

QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 18 2013, 12:29 AM)
I'm not saying upgrades are a bad thing, but at least treat models in the upper range with equal or better upgrades also mah.  doh.gif

Canon can release a 6D with wifi built in, while nikon's response is to say "Our D800 customers do not want Wi-Fi"  doh.gif

Sad man, seriously.
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Nicely put bro happy.gif
The D610 should have wider spread of AF points. Hell, the D600 should already have it in the 1st place tongue.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Oct 18 2013, 12:37 AM)
Yes and the D800 is still great. But say when D7200 gets a 36MP sensor, D800 users will get pissed at some point right? Most hobbyist would I think laugh.gif

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Hmm, I guess its just a matter of time (probably years) when even the entry-level DSLRs get what we have in the current enthusiast-level cameras laugh.gif
But like you said, if they actually introduce something like this too prematurely haha, many will be pissed haha XD

But I suppose I'm still okay at the moment haha, most of the new features I don't really use also hmm.gif But to others, the lack of certain features will surely be deal-breakers sad.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Oct 18 2013, 10:24 AM)
so much complain from sifu, make us the new comer(like myself) feel bad about their investment, and think twice in investing expensive lens.. lol
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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 18 2013, 10:34 AM)
Lol, lenses are fine, it's the bodies that sometimes have problems only. Worry not  laugh.gif
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gunzerdude sifu is right thumbup.gif
Lenses can practically last for a lifetime if you take good care of it thumbup.gif

Its good to know that manufacturers still make mounts that are suitable for old lenses. Hope it stays that way lol smile.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 11:49 AM

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I finally got my D5100 yesterday!!!

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post Oct 18 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 18 2013, 04:17 AM)
Your arguments has their points, yet at the end of the day are you happy paying 6K for a D610 body which is just a rebranding of last year's camera while a consumer level body that is released just 1 week after contains more upgrades for 1/3rd of the price?
I'm neither happy nor bitter. I don't have a D600 and neither am I planning to get the D610. I choose to bit the bullet when D800 was at it's highest price. What to do? Price to pay for an early adopter. What does it have that others now have? Just looking at the current prices and the other available bodies alone is heartache.

For the D600 crowd, I would understand the unhappiness the D610 has caused. Instead of putting resources to solve the shutter problems on the D600, Nikon instead chooses to put the solution into a new body (D610) and charge users for it.

Also like you mentioned, Nikon is able to put a lot of tech in a D5300 for so much less money than compared to D610 and yet charge a bomb for an updated D600 in the guise of the D610. I guess they continue to use this pricing structure because both bodies cater to different markets.

QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 18 2013, 04:17 AM)
It's not necessary to defend the brand when they are making obvious mistakes.
For me as a prospective FX upgrader it frustrates me that Nikon is capable of adding so much to the D610, yet chose to reserve upgrades for the D5300 instead.

Regardless of whether the upgrades makes a difference to my photography, I am paying that much more, is it not logical for me to expect more?  sweat.gif
D610/D600 has a different targeted audience than with D5100/D5200/D5300. There was a survey done recently and I thought I read that Nikon and other big companies like Canon and Sony do not make so much profit on their high end systems. They make more profit on consumer products. So that partially explains your question why they choose to concentrate on consumer bodies like D5300 instead of D610 because as consumer products, they expect to sell more D5300 and try to please the bigger audience.

I know Nikon upgrade path is a little weird. They put newer tech on lower end body than they should on their higher end ones. I think it started on D700 time when they put the same AF module as they have on D3.

Anyway, I'm no camera designer but I suspect that putting in stuff like WiFi etc is a little complicated and would require a complete redesign due to space contraints. But then again, WiFi chips are very small.

QUOTE(gunzerdude @ Oct 18 2013, 04:17 AM)
Oh, btw the quote I highlighted above is by far the easiest mistake a company can make.

The response to the 6D should have been that they will look foward to implementing it in their future product, not proudly saying that "Our customers do not need WIFI" and also testing the intelligence of their prosumer base by saying that there is actually so much demand for a continuous quiet shutter and 0.5FPS increase in speed to warrant a "new" product.

Damage control? Not so much I think.  doh.gif
Their marketing and social media department needs a knock on the head sometimes.

Anyway, I merely mentioned that with all big manufacturers, there's bound to be an orphan child lemon product like this where the company is not proud off and that it's normal practice for big companies to do this. Nobody company is perfect. After sales service is always a non profit arm of the company and most of the time they are set up to please users. That's all.

QUOTE(dinozilla @ Oct 18 2013, 10:15 AM)
seriously??
I guess that's what the least they can offer...lol  tongue.gif
but no written statement about this right?
just a verbal statement?
I don't think there will be a formal written statement. A written statement would mean admission to the D600 problem which they are not !

QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Oct 18 2013, 10:24 AM)
so much complain from sifu, make us the new comer(like myself) feel bad about their investment, and think twice in investing expensive lens.. lol
Investment itself always involves risk. Never risk free.

Calculated risk? Yes.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 18 2013, 10:41 AM)
Focusing speed (and accuracy) usually more concern for action/event photography.
Yeah, landscape shots would place importance to quality than AF speed.

By f/8, everything is in focus. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 18 2013, 11:49 AM)
I finally got my D5100 yesterday!!!

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Congratulations man! rclxm9.gif
That's great to know, now its time to start shooting and sharing~~~
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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 18 2013, 11:49 AM)
I finally got my D5100 yesterday!!!

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post Oct 18 2013, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Oct 18 2013, 11:55 AM)
Congratulations man!  rclxm9.gif
That's great to know, now its time to start shooting and sharing~~~
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When I reached home with my camera, it was already at night. So went out and took some night shots. Not very good la, to be honest.

Paiseh to share here... blush.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Oct 18 2013, 11:56 AM)
welcome to da club
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Thanks dude. smile.gif
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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 18 2013, 11:49 AM)
I finally got my D5100 yesterday!!!

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i can see you are happy by putting 9 emoticons in same time.
when you gonna shoot race queen? brows.gif

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 18 2013, 12:02 PM)
i can see you are happy by putting 9 emoticons in same time.
when you gonna shoot race queen?  brows.gif
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Haha... My first DSLR mah. Deswai a bit excited. Sorry if I wasted forum space with my emoticons. blush.gif laugh.gif

Race queen don't have. What about Singapore babes? brows.gif
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what about ballerinas? tongue.gif

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want ask Chromatic aberration will have more chance appear in wider aperture instead of tighter aperture?

i only know it will happen when shoot in a strong back lit background... unsure.gif
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post Oct 18 2013, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 18 2013, 11:30 AM)
having halo effect in HDR is like an instant kill to your pictures, proper HDR pictures shouldn't have halo smile.gif

actually it can be done with just 1 RAW file instead of exposure stacking tongue.gif
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Halo effect is the white glow of the subject which prominent on top of another layer right? How'd you reduce this effect? Some say use "smoothing" slider, but I don't think it's in Lightroom or Pshop, probably Photomatix. I would like to learn bracketing and stacking multiple exposure first before into single raw hdr. smile.gif

Here's another tryout, I noticed there's halo effect of the hill, but still can't figure it out to reduce it. shakehead.gif
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Pantai Bukit Keluang HDR by NurAzam, on Flickr
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QUOTE(copperwire93 @ Oct 18 2013, 12:27 PM)
Halo effect is the white glow of the subject which prominent on top of another layer right? How'd you reduce this effect? Some say use "smoothing" slider, but I don't think it's in Lightroom or Pshop, probably Photomatix. I would like to learn bracketing and stacking multiple exposure first before into single raw hdr. smile.gif

Here's another tryout, I noticed there's halo effect of the hill, but still can't figure it out to reduce it. shakehead.gif
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if you use lightroom only then you have to mask it very careful and slow with your brush tool and also play with other sliders too

in photoshop there is a auto mask feature that can easy select the hill only, leaving the sky untouch then you can do your adjustment on the hill only and not affect the sky

for other software i dont know la, i use lightroom to do it only
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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 18 2013, 12:48 PM)
if you use lightroom only then you have to mask it very careful and slow with your brush tool and also play with other sliders too

in photoshop there is a auto mask feature that can easy select the hill only, leaving the sky untouch then you can do your adjustment on the hill only and not affect the sky

for other software i dont know la, i use lightroom to do it only
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Thanks for tips! smile.gif
I'll try merging the raws from lightroom to pshop, then see if there's auto mask feature available with this method, save it in .tiff later reedit in lightroom.
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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 18 2013, 12:48 PM)
if you use lightroom only then you have to mask it very careful and slow with your brush tool and also play with other sliders too

in photoshop there is a auto mask feature that can easy select the hill only, leaving the sky untouch then you can do your adjustment on the hill only and not affect the sky

for other software i dont know la, i use lightroom to do it only
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photoshop is too difficult.. learning lightroom already can kill me.. haha
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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Oct 18 2013, 12:00 PM)
When I reached home with my camera, it was already at night. So went out and took some night shots. Not very good la, to be honest.

Paiseh to share here...  blush.gif
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Well, its better to try shooting outdoors in the sun 1st icon_rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Oct 18 2013, 12:09 PM)
Great shot mate! I love the posture, looks very hard lol~
Too bad the face obscured liao, should be better without the jacket I think hmm.gif

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