IMO, prolly not a science master or PhD; but something else. This is however, based on my personal experience only. I don't see my knowledge in biomed comes in handy now since I'm in the management team.

Since Post #16 if you recall. Even if you generalize ALL kinds of job, the existing accounts fail to resolve the contradiction between PhD-qualified jobs and Bachelor-qualified jobs. Any idea?

Are you a lecturer or are you a manager actually? I'm utterly confused.

I used to lecture for almost 5 years. I'm in the management team now

Ok, so you got your masters, started lecturing after your masters, got promoted to management, and now say that your masters is useless?

It's certainly useful if I am still lecturing. But now since I'm in the management, it doesn't really help at all. I'm not saying it's useless. I'm considering taking up PhD non related to my MSc.

Yeah, I could see how your signature tagline reflects the way you tell a story.

Just saying that the time u take to pursue your masters/phd is better use at gaining experience in the job. Of course its always better to have a masters but you do not have all the time in the world. WHenu finish your masters/phd you are at an age where the employers are looking at experience to hire not some 30 year old fresh phd graduate. Yes i think it is not need msc or phd to climb corporate ladder. U need experience more than those academic qualification.



I dunno wat u trying to tok and using special english to make me look lousy

It's a good thing to hear about the usefulness of MSc in getting a promotion in management. Which division of management are you currently in?

So... What kind of PhD are you considering?

I would like to learn of your age, qualification(s) and job role. Perhaps I may make you my model of success. I am not being sarcastic. Perhaps I would write a book on how to be successful with just a degree, and name you as co-author.

The most interesting finding is that it'd become an instant best seller when you decide to write a book on "How to be successful without a degree."

Yes. Never mind that it is written by someone who has a degree or two. No one can tell the difference anyway.

It would also be an instant hit as almost everyone wants shortcuts to success. Whatever the definition of "success" is.

in my case,

1) the company did pay MSc more as compare to BSc (around rm700). eventho the BSc holdr have more experience in working, around 3years more.

2) my boss has PhD and the management always sought for his opinion if there is any issues eventho the management have more experience on the issues.

so i think to say that employer bias on what u hold and how much your experience only is not totally right. it really depends as u guys discuss.

so for TS, my advice.. if you are into education line..go straight MSc and PhD.

if you more into industrial line. go MSc then find job at related to your MSc. dont worry that u cant find job cause uve no experience. there is no such thing. most of my friends that continue MSc after degree got better offer at international company. MSc part time also not bad. only if you willing to lose ur weekend for 1-2years max.

then later go for Industrial PhD if you dont mind staying at that company until u finish PhD la (bonded)...at the end of the day u have experience and PhD.

its not easy. but lose some. gain some

goodluck

yeah yeah.. laugh at me la.. how about u write a book how to be successful with a master/phd in malaysia and i name u as co author

I am neither successful nor wise enough to write such a book. That is why I am very excited to read people's comments on their sure-win recipes for success.

This post has been edited by Starbucki: Oct 11 2013, 04:54 PM

i think u abit mis-track. I never say i sure-win. Just saying that master/phd got no future in malaysia corporate.

You are of course entitled to your opinion and I am not bound to agree with it. Can bo.

I've already come up with a good book title!

PhD Boss, BSc Boss: What the PhD Teach Their Workers About Success--That the Bachelors and the Masters Do Not!

Good one.

My retard book will be called:

"Permanent Head Damage? Better than BullSchitters and MSchmucks!"

This post has been edited by Starbucki: Oct 11 2013, 05:16 PM

let me get the point straight to you.. in research,giving 101% does not guarantee you will be successful..it is unlike taking an exam, whereby u study hard+smart, BOM! there it goes, u ace it that exam. u need luck, luck and luck, and 1 thing that tends to bug many of us is..we are so accustomed to getting a right answer..but this is not the case in science research..it makes u feel stupid.