Having the same doubt too. For me, pursuing Masters and eventually PhD is somehow like a target for me to achieve in my life. From what I heard, life of postgrad students is most likely dependent to the research you will involve in, and also yourself to balance it the most

I personally never encourage my students to take this path. One should know or at least have some idea of their pathway before pursuing further. I myself took 2 years off after my Bachelor to identify exactly what I'm into, then only pursue my MSc. Took me 3 jumps of jobs in 1 year to find out.

Meaning I do intend to pursue my MSc after my Bachelor. However, I've decided to work for 2 years just to (1) gain some working experience in the industry (2) see what exactly I want to do (3) identify which area I would want to further into (4) do I really need to take up MSc.

My third job-which is a tutoring job, answers everything. After tutoring for about 2 years I applied for a MSc relevant to my teaching. It was very well spent of course because without it, I wouldn't even know my direction.

I'm not advocating them to follow my path. Just an advice to them IF they do not know what to do next. Why do something if you are unsure if it will be useful to you in the future?

If indeed I'm alright with my 1st job, my MSc will not really be beneficial at all already. They won't even pay higher for it.

Its difficult to explain to ppl who never experience before cos if u experience study masters/phd beforeand look for job in the corporate you will know. If continue as lecturer in academic field ok la..

Try think in terms of employer mindset and you will know the reason

It is not only fit for the job and stuff but in hiring someone everything takes into account. Example u r phd right atitude, expectation ,etc ,etc candidate...

You are only focusing on yourself as a candidate why u r fit for the job. But u never realise besides you there are many more applying for the job and they are your competitors. As a phd you have no xperience in working field,etc etc..

The employer have many choices and they are choosing the best that suits them and it is not academic knowledge that they are looking at. Every candidate has their own unique skill sets.

dafuq? ww are talking about getting a job now and wat r u asking..

r u gonna b your own boss after u grad or look for employment?

Im just saying master/phd no future cos just having phd doesnt make u the best candidate out there. If u r employer u will not take phd student over a degree grad who already have 5 yrs experience in the job you r looking for

u mean having phd is extraordinary compare against degre having 5 yrs experience? I no comment on u willing pay extraordinary bucks.

Of cos can do wat u 1 2 do and b happy but not always your life in in your control. Many times u it depends on other ppl like getting a job. Unless u haf rich father then u can do wat ever u 1 and b happy. Nobody 1 employ u just ask your father open a company for u b boss.

aiya you all don't lari topic la. The focus here is on science related MSc or PhD. I don't think one need a Master or PhD in Science to compete in the corporate world. It is only useful if you are in the academic line.

IMO, prolly not a science master or PhD; but something else. This is however, based on my personal experience only. I don't see my knowledge in biomed comes in handy now since I'm in the management team.

I used to lecture for almost 5 years. I'm in the management team now

It's certainly useful if I am still lecturing. But now since I'm in the management, it doesn't really help at all. I'm not saying it's useless. I'm considering taking up PhD non related to my MSc.

Just saying that the time u take to pursue your masters/phd is better use at gaining experience in the job. Of course its always better to have a masters but you do not have all the time in the world. WHenu finish your masters/phd you are at an age where the employers are looking at experience to hire not some 30 year old fresh phd graduate. Yes i think it is not need msc or phd to climb corporate ladder. U need experience more than those academic qualification.
I dunno wat u trying to tok and using special english to make me look lousy

The most interesting finding is that it'd become an instant best seller when you decide to write a book on "How to be successful without a degree."

yeah yeah.. laugh at me la.. how about u write a book how to be successful with a master/phd in malaysia and i name u as co author

i think u abit mis-track. I never say i sure-win. Just saying that master/phd got no future in malaysia corporate.

I've already come up with a good book title!

PhD Boss, BSc Boss: What the PhD Teach Their Workers About Success--That the Bachelors and the Masters Do Not!