now that the issues have been sorted, lets focus on another question
how many SGPV that will be built?
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Oct 29 2013, 02:20 AM
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now that the issues have been sorted, lets focus on another question
how many SGPV that will be built? |
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Oct 29 2013, 02:24 AM
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Maybe extra money not used for gowind will be going to fully arm the empty kedah class.
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Oct 29 2013, 02:26 AM
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 29 2013, 02:20 AM) now that the issues have been sorted, lets focus on another question 6how many SGPV that will be built? QUOTE(lulz @ Oct 29 2013, 02:24 AM) Hopefully so, that thing so empty, as empty as training vessel |
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Oct 29 2013, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 29 2013, 02:20 AM) now that the issues have been sorted, lets focus on another question 6 units.how many SGPV that will be built? I hope we were able to combine meko class modular tech with gowind stealth. Like what german did combine meko and visby to produce meko csl. This post has been edited by yinchet: Oct 29 2013, 02:42 AM |
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Oct 29 2013, 02:45 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Oct 29 2013, 02:14 AM) Yeah, Indonesia can make military procurement easier because they do not have to deal with tree hugger sissies at the parlimeant and the so called hippies NGO that scream Millenium?"no war, put the money to education, no need military asset, we are not in war" that I encounter during the last DSA general, keep calm! What I see, that the Navy is not a really big fan of CIWS since the old days Jom lobi tuk Oto Melara Millennium I'm still thinking that at least NSM will be fitted and dont worry, DW are not the only one that working close with the ship in mymil Baik dapatkan searams dan bofor 40mm mk4 Lagi best combo. |
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Oct 29 2013, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 29 2013, 02:00 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « My theory however is that, Indonesia will need to replenish their cash reserves to pay for all this weapons hence new area is needed. So if World War 3 will start in 2 years time or conflict that leads Indonesia to declare war with Malaysia, they will take the opportunity to take over as much land and sea as possible and re-write history as what happen in WW2. Then again i think we compromise our Military power secret when Sulu people with 200 militants start attacking causing us to panic and instead of growing balls to go in and shoot them with a task force, we bombard them with bombs from a jet ... Really .. 200 sulu vs a whole Malaysian military battalion + military grade weapon put in use... Me thinks the US also laugh. So to increase Indonesia chance to win over Malaysia at 150% .. Get more good weapon and grow big balls. |
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Oct 29 2013, 02:50 AM
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Oct 29 2013, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE Really .. 200 sulu vs a whole Malaysian military battalion + military grade weapon put in use... Me thinks the US also laugh. US used more force and higher tech than us for fighting the taliban. |
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Oct 29 2013, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE(lulz @ Oct 29 2013, 02:51 AM) You don't win wars by fighting fairly. If a tactic is deemed cowardice by civilians who knows shit but saves the lives of soldiers, I won't hesitateBtw, why is the level of stupidity seems to be higher than normal in here? Everybody needs to relax |
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Oct 29 2013, 03:29 AM
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Oct 29 2013, 03:38 AM
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i don't have any particular problem with kedah-class OPV. the only thing needed to transform kedah class into fully armed frigate is by installing the MM40 canister. and we have lots of the in our arsenal
the only sour point is the engine. the logic behind the caterpillar engine is that kedah-class opv is meant for long-deployment, high-endurance mission. to patrol along the South china sea, the straits and the coastal area in near philippines. faster engine means higher fuel consumption. so to change it to MTU engine (that can go to 30 knots/hr) is necessary QUOTE(TruthHurts @ Oct 29 2013, 03:47 AM) My theory however is that, Indonesia will need to replenish their cash reserves to pay for all this weapons hence new area is needed. So if World War 3 will start in 2 years time or conflict that leads Indonesia to declare war with Malaysia, they will take the opportunity to take over as much land and sea as possible and re-write history as what happen in WW2. Then again i think we compromise our Military power secret when Sulu people with 200 militants start attacking causing us to panic and instead of growing balls to go in and shoot them with a task force, we bombard them with bombs from a jet ... Really .. 200 sulu vs a whole Malaysian military battalion + military grade weapon put in use... Me thinks the US also laugh. So to increase Indonesia chance to win over Malaysia at 150% .. Get more good weapon and grow big balls. what you're article is saying is what measures every country takes in order to guarantee that their sovereignity. you conveniently forget that we also have our navy stationed in sepanggar,sejingkat and bintulu. not to mention other military bases every armies in the region is rearming themselves. including the piss-poor philippines. what the indons are doing is essentially what we are also do, that is by replacing their old and obsolete vessels, such as the bulk of german patrol vessels that they bought in the nineties. and that didn't stop there what you're saying is just because they buy new things, suddenly "hurr durr ganyang malingsia". we are also spending on military equimpent and bolstering our current ability as you speak.the latest; the establishment of marine corps. just in case you didn't know, our major military procurement budget is allocated in malaysia's 5 year plan.so if you want to see shiny new toys wait till mr Najib announce it during rancangan malaysia ke-11 as for 200 mundus....well dudes before me pretty much explains it already but maybe you need a better explanation. any military plan need to be quick, sharp, decisive. the point of military operation is to destroy the enemy so the fighting doesn't dragged on, and if that means by utilizing superior firepower and combined arms to blow these scumbags to smithereens, then so be it. even the philippines army mobilize almost a division-strong army during the zamboanga crisis recently (not to mention their navy and air force.) but than again, your theory, your opinion. so if you still want to stand to it then so be it |
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Oct 29 2013, 03:58 AM
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 29 2013, 03:38 AM) i don't have any particular problem with kedah-class OPV. the only thing needed to transform kedah class into fully armed frigate is by installing the MM40 canister. and we have lots of the in our arsenal I know about the article a long time ago .. just takes time for me to find it. the only sour point is the engine. the logic behind the caterpillar engine is that kedah-class opv is meant for long-deployment, high-endurance mission. to patrol along the South china sea, the straits and the coastal area in near philippines. faster engine means higher fuel consumption. so to change it to MTU engine (that can go to 30 knots/hr) is necessary took your sweet time to dig the article, eh? somehow you didn't didn't understand the article, and it is totally unrelated to your previous claim what you're article is saying is what measures every country takes in order to guarantee that their sovereignity. you conveniently forget that we also have our navy stationed in sepanggar,sejingkat and bintulu. not to mention other military bases every armies in the region is rearming themselves. including the piss-poor philippines. what the indons are doing is essentially what we are also do, that is by replacing their old and obsolete vessels, such as the bulk of german patrol vessels that they bought in the nineties. and that didn't stop there what you're saying is just because they buy new things, suddenly "hurr durr ganyang malingsia". we are also spending on military equimpent and bolstering our current ability as you speak.the latest; the establishment of marine corps. just in case you didn't know, our major military procurement budget is allocated in malaysia's 5 year plan.so if you want to see shiny new toys wait till mr Najib announce it during rancangan malaysia ke-11 as for 200 mundus....well dudes before me pretty much explains it already but maybe you need a better explanation. any military plan need to be quick, sharp, decisive. the point of military operation is to destroy the enemy so the fighting doesn't dragged on, and if that means by utilizing superior firepower and combined arms to blow these scumbags to smithereens, then so be it. even the philippines army mobilize almost a division-strong army during the zamboanga crisis recently (not to mention their navy and air force.) but than again, your theory, your opinion. so if you still want to stand to it then so be it But like you said, theory and opinion on my own .. then again you should know, Enemy will never give you the correct information or tell you the time they will attack. Attacker will observed first and make calculated risk before starting a war. So bolstering troops, weapons upgrade and long plan strategies is the best way to go. They are not going to let the world know they will deliver the blow at this date and time. If you are able to go in attack and establish an outpost .. clearly you can win as the closest part of the land or sea is clear from harms way as you need a route to resupply arms and man power to continue effort push to victory. Like the Sulu case, when they suddenly land at Sabah and establish their "base", you seen how hard the PDRM to get through and when they call in the military, they too have problems. So when the Sulu first land at Sabah, did you read in the internet ??? NO... But you do get the news that so called Sultan Kiram wanted to take back Sabah and no one was aware he sent militants to Sabah. If Indonesia and Sulu wanted to attack together, from Sabah to Semenanjung is a stretch too far and for military wise it's stretch thin... real thin. |
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Oct 29 2013, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Oct 29 2013, 02:19 AM) heh, baguih...bleh buat calon menantu! QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 29 2013, 02:45 AM) mah and I think 2 out of 3 here will make it! |
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Oct 29 2013, 08:54 AM
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QUOTE(hafizushi @ Oct 28 2013, 11:09 PM) since aku pun baru dlm thread nie, selama nih silent reader The weapon thas was confirmed from the link could be the DS30M from MSI Defence Systems. tapi aku taknak kutuk dulu so ni aku jumpa pasal equipment LCS http://securemalaysia.blogspot.com/ credit: mumuchi blog from it look like weapon not yet finalized, no statement yet go out to bursa QUOTE 3. to supply MSI Defence Systems Limited 30mm Small Calibre Guns for the LCS Programme (“the Awarded Works”) at a total value of GBP17,290,916 (Great Britain Pounds Seventeen Million Two Hundred Ninty Thousand Nine Hundred and Sixteen) equivalent to RM87,729,508 at 28 Oct. Exchange Rate This post has been edited by azriel: Oct 29 2013, 11:49 AM |
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Oct 29 2013, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Oct 28 2013, 07:26 PM) From Alert 5 If price is good, no harm to get it... can get fast without long waiting. French Army chief of staff confirms talks with Malaysia for the sale of 2nd-hand Tigre HAP attack helicopters. but French HAP first phase 40 unit tiger have 30 unit with full spec and 10 unit with basic spec which have some limited weapon selection and some mission role. hopefully not get that 10 basic unit. or need upgrade to HAD version. |
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Oct 29 2013, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Oct 28 2013, 01:53 AM) what's wrong with MM40 block 3 anyway? it's not what we get that's wrong. It what we pay for it that's wrong.as for the air defence,should be aster 30 but i'd take mica if that means more missile that can be carry. this is SGPV people, not DDG. should be a big advance compared to sea-wolf besides we've operated both exocet missile and ds30 gun currently. is it really cost effective to use totally different weapon system on just one ship? |
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Oct 29 2013, 10:19 AM
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Oct 29 2013, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(nikita zuleica @ Oct 29 2013, 10:19 AM) Used to be KD Inderapura. But now i'm not sure. the Kasturi class maybe. why women always concern about size? Size doesn't matter. it's the quality.This post has been edited by MrUbikeledek: Oct 29 2013, 10:27 AM |
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