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post Oct 27 2013, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 27 2013, 09:13 PM)
but why it called Patrol vessel?
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Just a project name.
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post Oct 27 2013, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 27 2013, 09:44 PM)
news from france... 3/oct

(using google translate)
http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-financ...le-de-mbda.html  

Defence: three new export contracts into the hands of MBDA

MBDA wins in Malaysia and ... Vietnam

MBDA is waiting for a notification (LOA or Letter of Approval) a contract for the installation of missile on the six corvettes Gowind, whose design was sold by DCNS kind . The amount of the order is valued at just under 100 million euros. But who says shooting facilities said future orders missiles. MBDA and should sell surface-to-air missiles VL Mica, and anti-ship Exocet block 3. The future control is estimated between 300 and 400 million euros. A beautiful victory over U.S. rivalRaytheon who presented the ESSM (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile).

Reportedly, MBDA will also equip them with the VL Mica and Exocet two corvettes Dutch shipyard Damen purchased by Vietnam (+ two optional). A new very nice shot for MBDA.

In addition to these three contracts, MBDA never announces the signing of the export contracts due to the discretion of the customer, was up, according to La Tribune, some nice contracts, which will join the orders of 2013 . And maybe even surpassed the record in 2012 (1.5 billion euros) . Especially if the missile is able to finally get one of mégacontrats on which it competes, including through combat aircraft (including Rafale, Eurofighter and Gripen but even Tornado).

VL-MICA win..... ?
sad news if true .....
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http://www.defencereviewasia.com/articles/...into-two-halves

RMN prefer sea spparow and naval strike missile for it sgpv. I think because sea sparow is battle proven in sea combat while mica is relatively new system

but seem that there no fund and have to go for cheaper option. Then again why cant the gomen give wat the navy wants for national defence instead of some program of giving free money everywhere doh.gif

like there no priority for defense instead donate and throw money everywhere

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post Oct 27 2013, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 27 2013, 09:44 PM)
news from france... 3/oct

(using google translate)
http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-financ...le-de-mbda.html  

Defence: three new export contracts into the hands of MBDA

MBDA wins in Malaysia and ... Vietnam

MBDA is waiting for a notification (LOA or Letter of Approval) a contract for the installation of missile on the six corvettes Gowind, whose design was sold by DCNS kind . The amount of the order is valued at just under 100 million euros. But who says shooting facilities said future orders missiles. MBDA and should sell surface-to-air missiles VL Mica, and anti-ship Exocet block 3. The future control is estimated between 300 and 400 million euros. A beautiful victory over U.S. rivalRaytheon who presented the ESSM (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile).

Reportedly, MBDA will also equip them with the VL Mica and Exocet two corvettes Dutch shipyard Damen purchased by Vietnam (+ two optional). A new very nice shot for MBDA.

In addition to these three contracts, MBDA never announces the signing of the export contracts due to the discretion of the customer, was up, according to La Tribune, some nice contracts, which will join the orders of 2013 . And maybe even surpassed the record in 2012 (1.5 billion euros) . Especially if the missile is able to finally get one of mégacontrats on which it competes, including through combat aircraft (including Rafale, Eurofighter and Gripen but even Tornado).

VL-MICA win..... ?
sad news if true .....
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If it is true than our sgpv is not even worth the money we are paying.
What more we are only equip it with ds30m as ciws.
Only retard justified such purchase.
Tldm lost the battle entirely. First setis, than mica than exocets.
There we go buy proton with a ferari price tags.

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post Oct 27 2013, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 27 2013, 09:53 PM)
http://www.defencereviewasia.com/articles/...into-two-halves

RMN prefer sea spparow and naval strike missile for it sgpv

but seem that there no fund and have to go for cheaper option. Then again why cant the gomen give wat the navy wants for national defence instead of some program of giving free money everywhere doh.gif

like there no priority for defense instead donate and throw money everywhere
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500 million ship for 3000 tons is very expensive.....
some big amount is pay for TOT and IP licensing....
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post Oct 27 2013, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 27 2013, 09:58 PM)
If it is true than our sgpv is not even worth the money we are paying.
What more we are only equip it with ds30m as ciws.
Only retard justified such purchase.
Tldm lost the battle entirely. First setis, than mica than exocets.
There go we buy proton with a ferari price tags.
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some big amount is pay for TOT and Intellectual Property(IP) licensing for local production. (some military expert said)


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post Oct 27 2013, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 27 2013, 09:53 PM)
http://www.defencereviewasia.com/articles/...into-two-halves

RMN prefer sea spparow and naval strike missile for it sgpv. I think because sea sparow is battle proven in sea combat while mica is relatively new system

but seem that there no fund and have to go for cheaper option. Then again why cant the gomen give wat the navy wants for national defence instead of some program of giving free money everywhere doh.gif

like there no priority for defense instead donate and throw money everywhere
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If they lower down the procurement cost then no problem.
But rm1.5bil for a ship with mica, ds30m, and exocet.
Boleh accept kah? Tak ada money or buying at a very high markup price?


QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 27 2013, 10:01 PM)
some big amount is pay for TOT and Intellectual Property(IP) licensing  for local production. (some military expert said)
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Crap of bull for those who said that, show me the ip cost.

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post Oct 27 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 27 2013, 09:13 PM)
but why it called Patrol vessel?
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actually can call it whatever they want.
japan has the largest PV in the world, it's 7000+ tons. and with weapons not normally found on PV.

our PV is PV + LCS and closer to corvette or light frigate in tonnage and weaponry.
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post Oct 27 2013, 10:30 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 27 2013, 09:58 PM)
If it is true than our sgpv is not even worth the money we are paying.
What more we are only equip it with ds30m as ciws.
Only retard justified such purchase.
Tldm lost the battle entirely. First setis, than mica than exocets.
There we go buy proton with a ferari price tags.
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it like we buy a ferrari shell but use engine from proton.. doh.gif

exocets is so commonly used and ppl already know how to counter it. Plus it cheap armament for such an expensive ship


QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 27 2013, 10:01 PM)
some big amount is pay for TOT and Intellectual Property(IP) licensing  for local production. (some military expert said)
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IP by right should come together with the ship. It not a separate accessories where we have to buy

QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 27 2013, 10:11 PM)
If they lower down the procurement cost then no problem.
But rm1.5bil for a ship with mica, ds30m, and exocet.
Boleh accept kah? Tak ada money or buying at a very high markup price?
Crap of bull for those who said that, show me the ip cost.
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How the hell for such armement which the RMN also dont want can be selected? RMN no balls to fight?
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post Oct 27 2013, 10:48 PM

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No essm. I told ya. So identical to Oman khareef-class corvette armament. No, their main gun better. Price? Cheaper than our kedah class.
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post Oct 27 2013, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 27 2013, 10:11 PM)
If they lower down the procurement cost then no problem.
But rm1.5bil for a ship with mica, ds30m, and exocet.
Boleh accept kah? Tak ada money or buying at a very high markup price?
Crap of bull for those who said that, show me the ip cost.
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is tat ds30m is even considered a ciws?

at least give it a proper ciws like millenium or better phlax or it can get Goalkeeper
doh.gif doh.gif

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post Oct 27 2013, 10:51 PM

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Gowind-class TLDM dh jadik mangsa songlap ke? fikir2 kan la..
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 27 2013, 10:51 PM)
Gowind-class TLDM dh jadik mangsa songlap ke? fikir2 kan la..
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based on armement macam sudah jadi mangsa.. rm1.6 billion

macam gajah hitam kena cat putih..

with this type of armament.. even Formidable-class frigate much better and cheaper.
Boleh jadi scout saja lah our sgpv doh.gif

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 27 2013, 10:53 PM)
based on armement macam sudah jadi mangsa.. rm1.6 billion

macam gajah hitam kena cat putih..
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tuler, aku pun dah naik malas nak fikir pasal procurement2 defense...dah faham sgt mcm mana cara2 pengkhianat2 negara ni beroperasi..
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 27 2013, 10:54 PM)
tuler, aku pun dah naik malas nak fikir pasal procurement2 defense...dah faham sgt mcm mana cara2 pengkhianat2 negara ni beroperasi..
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yang pengkhianat ni rakyat yang undi masuk..

yawn.gif yawn.gif

Dah poket dah kaya semasa submarine purchase, ni macam case sama lagi. Wat worse it the same company doh.gif
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Oct 27 2013, 10:48 PM)
No essm.  I told ya. So identical to Oman khareef-class corvette armament. No, their main gun better. Price? Cheaper than our kedah class.
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i dont bother about the main gun.. but it weapon suite macam no punch compared to Formidable-class frigate

it bound to be better and more modern than SG but in end just disappointment yawn.gif
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malaysia military procurement: double the price, half the capability.
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post Oct 27 2013, 11:24 PM

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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Oct 27 2013, 07:21 PM)
Revolver PDRM bakal ditukar pistol semi automatik

KUALA LUMPUR 26 Okt. - Polis Diraja Malaysia (PDRM) akan menggantikan senjata api revolver yang digunakan oleh anggotanya ketika ini dengan pistol semi automatik melalui peruntukan khas RM200 juta bagi membanteras jenayah.

Timbalan Ketua Polis Negara, Datuk Seri Mohd. Bakri Mohd. Zinin berkata, selain itu PDRM juga akan memperbanyakkan baju kalis peluru agar anggota pasukan itu bertugas dalam keadaan lebih selamat.

"Di samping itu juga kita akan tambah kenderaan dan peralatan forensik di setiap negeri supaya semuanya mencukupi," katanya dalam sidang akhbar selepas menghadiri upacara perbarisan tamat latihan Kursus Asas Kadet Inspektor Siri 1/2013 di Pusat Latihan Polis (Pulapol) Jalan Semarak hari ini.

Beliau turut memberitahu sebuah pasukan khas akan dibentuk bagi menyelenggara peruntukkan Bajet 2014 yang diumumkan oleh Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak semalam dan ia akan diketuai oleh Pengarah Jabatan Logistik PDRM, Datuk Zulkifli Abdullah.

Perdana Menteri semalam mengumumkan peruntukan sebanyak RM8.8 bilion kepada PDRM bagi memperkasakan perkhidmatan pasukan itu termasuk peruntukan khas membanteras jenayah sebanyak RM200 juta bagi melengkapkan PDRM dengan peralatan dan kelengkapan terkini.

http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/Jenayah/20...-semi-automatik

Dah sampai masa buang revolver tuh semua. So rasa pistol apa diorang nak amik?
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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 27 2013, 09:13 PM)
but why it called Patrol vessel?
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Oct 27 2013, 10:51 PM)
Gowind-class TLDM dh jadik mangsa songlap ke? fikir2 kan la..
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navy still fight lagi, dan spec tak betul final
harap2 idak la
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are we really that poor to procure even a single, not-corrupted, good ship??
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post Oct 27 2013, 11:44 PM

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Dah terang-terang sgpv ini bakal jadi mangsa songlap.
Rm1.5bil equip with pistor air.
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post Oct 27 2013, 11:50 PM

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dafaq, ds30m jd ciws....at least ltak la phalanx ke...
sgpv tue dh ley ltak dlm klass frigate dh lau ltak modul yg btul...
kapal mahal2 tp snjata xdlm class yg btul....

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